hk-discussion

[copper spruce]

[ashen ginkgo]

meanie

[heavy barn]

civil aspid

[maiden echo]

Fuck shit ass tit

[noble trellis]

all i know is aspids, primal aspids, aspid mothers and baby aspids

[subtle glacier]

sophisticated aspid

[copper spruce]

British aspid

[noble trellis]

wtf i've never seen this in my life

[copper spruce]

Vs australian aspid

[heavy barn]

aspids are aspid hunters

[noble trellis]

is my life a lie

[fiery geode]

Abyss aspid

[maiden echo]

Hatchlings are essentially aspids

[copper spruce]

Poke

[haughty blade]

did you like- skip vengeful spirit or smth ????

[maiden echo]

You use an Aspid wound to birth them

[noble trellis]

no

i dont remember those

wtf

[fiery geode]

I feel like Squits and Hoppers are also related to aspids

[subtle glacier]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/0/0a/Aspid_Hunter_Idle.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/360?cb=20181123132643

aspid

[noble trellis]

they are just infected

[noble trellis]

yeah that one

that's the one i know

[heavy barn]

they're the same

[subtle glacier]

that’s an aspid hunter

[heavy barn]

the other one is just a weird picture

[noble trellis]

oh

[haughty blade]

all asspids

[subtle glacier]

earlier picture was mid spit

[noble trellis]

ok so i'm not delusional

[maiden echo]

Hatchlings are essentially aspids

[median saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/the-miracle-of-life-gif-16600697575105860617

[median saffron]

why did i find this when i looked up aspid

[fiery geode]

Death

[noble trellis]

ancient aspid

the goat

[copper spruce]

That looks ugly

[noble trellis]

*that looks cool

[copper spruce]

I mean the wings

Wtf are those

[fiery geode]

Wings

[subtle glacier]

ain’t nobody need to fly that bad

evolve less

[noble trellis]

erm actually, the ancient aspid is very very big, so many of those wings are needed to support the weight

[fiery geode]

Nerd

[copper spruce]

Bug spray

[median saffron]

what if grey mourner had whatsapp

[noble trellis]

everybody would be making fun of traitor's child's death

[fiery geode]

What if Gorb had Whatsapp

[maiden echo]

I think that's the original

[noble trellis]

he'd be excluded cause he's an alien

[median saffron]

its just him spamming all the dreamers "I AM GORB"

[frigid mural]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/3/39/B_Pirmal_Aspid.png/revision/latest/thumbnail/width/360/height/360?cb=20170412194723 FLASH BANG

[noble trellis]

so accurate

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Primal Aspid

Description:
Wilder, ancestral form of the Aspid. Once thought extinct, they have reappeared at the edges of the world.

Hunter's notes:
These cruel foes will ambush you and relentlessly attack with their searing venom. How strange that their descendants are so weak. If I have children, I hope they will be stronger than me...

Dream Nail:
...Light...Danger...
...Safe...Dark...
...Hungry...Hungry...
...Scared...
...Eat...When...
...Kill...Hurt...
...Away. Away...
...Pain...

@mrs.prettyyyyyyyyy used /journal name: Primal Aspid

[fiery geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gorb-gif-22280831

[median saffron]

this except its just him cursing out the hollow knight for failing

awh man menderbug doesnt have dreamnail dialouge

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Weathered Mask

Description:
Strange mask from a godless land, passed down over time. The design suggests the wearer's thoughts were focused through the crest.

Hunter's notes:
"Gods of Thunder, Gods of Rain! Why forsake thy servants? Will Our minds be left suffering, to ache alone? What God remains to deliver Us from this woeful silence?"
- Lament of the Godseekers

@lupinusthegoober used /journal name: Weathered Mask

[noble trellis]

cant wait until christmas

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Hollow Knight

Description:
Fully grown Vessel, carrying the plague's heart within its body.

Hunter's notes:
The old King of Hallownest... he must have been desperate to save his crumbling little world. The sacrifices he imposed on others... all for nothing.

@mrs.prettyyyyyyyyy used /journal name: Hollow Knight

[frigid mural]

Where are all the mask shards in forgotten crossroads I got 1 from sly I cant get the one in queens station but I have mantis claw it’s just too hard

[noble trellis]

two or three from sly, one in the goam room, one from brooding mawlek, thats all i remember

[median saffron]

BRUH

THE HOLLOW KNIGHT DOESNT HAVE DREAM NAIL TEXT???

thats stupid

[reef relic]

Wasn’t there one somewhere above false knight

[median saffron]

the entire point is that hes impure

[maiden echo]

It was cut from the game

Its probably the radiance talking anyway

[noble trellis]

erm actually it makes a lot of sense as he is one of if not the most infected being in the game. he is quite literally mindless when the vessel fights him

[median saffron]

the fuck is a goam

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Goam

Dream Nail:
...Light...Danger...
...Safe...Dark...
...Hungry...Hungry...
...Scared...
...Eat...When...
...Kill...Hurt...
...Away. Away...
...Pain...

@igotbannedfornoreason122121 used /journal name: Goam text: Dream Nail

Hunter's Journal: Radiance

Description:
The light, forgotten.

Hunter's notes:
The plague, the infection, the madness that haunts the corpses of Hallownest... the light that screams out from the eyes of this dead Kingdom. What is the source? I suppose mere mortals like myself will never understand.

Dream Nail:
...ANCIENT ENEMY...
...I DO NOT FEAR YOU...
...LET ME BE FREE...
...I WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN...
...DAWN WILL BREAK...
...THE LIGHT CANNOT BE CONSUMED...

@lupinusthegoober used /journal name: Radiance

[maiden echo]

...I WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN...

[noble trellis]

ok now how does the radiance have dream nail dialogue

THAT doesnt make sense to me

aren't you in a dream

[copper spruce]

Me when i eat light

[noble trellis]

how is bro dreaming in a dream

[reef relic]

I hear the voice lines plenty because of Hallownest vocalised it’s beautiful

[maiden echo]

Every dream boss has dream nail dialogue

[noble trellis]

oh...yeah..

[maiden echo]

How are anthropomorphic bugs wielding giant swords and killing each other

[noble trellis]

i need to get my iq checked

[median saffron]

erm, actually.. it DOESNT MAKE SENSE.. as he still has consciousness as he literally stabs himself with his OWN MIND!!!!! why would the radiance make the hollow knight STAB HIMSELF????????

[frigid mural]

Str4y thx

[maiden echo]

Its fiction

[noble trellis]

because they're anthropomorphic.

[fiery geode]

Yes

[maiden echo]

...listen here you little shit

[median saffron]

<@&283547423706447872>

[real otter]

thats him occasionally fighting back which is using every ounce of will he has (yet another fault)

[maiden echo]

<@&283547423706447872>

[zealous skiff]

<@&283547423706447872>

[noble trellis]

caught me red-handed coach

[noble trellis]

lol

[median saffron]

why doesnt he have dreamnail text when he gets hit by that then

also what was his old dreamnail text

because someone said it got removed

[fiery geode]

Yeah

It is still in the files though

[maiden echo]

"...Kill the usurper. Our light it would suffocate..."

[fiery geode]

Im pretty sure

[reef relic]

No mind to think no will to break no voice to cry suffering you are the vessel you are the hollow knight!!!!!!
No

[maiden echo]

"...No mind the usurper. Only strength..."

And some other stuff

[median saffron]

shouldnt the hollow knights dreamnail text be the radiances dreamnail text?

[maiden echo]

"...Father?..." As well

[median saffron]

hes basically just a vessel for the radiance atp

[real otter]

because his entire mind is being controlled by the radiance, which can only be entered by a crack in his skull

[maiden echo]

No, he's just carrying the radiance in their mind, but they clearly still have some control

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Nightmare King Grimm

Description:
Twisted spectre of scarlet flame.

Hunter's notes:
"The expanse of dream in past was split,
One realm now must stay apart,
Darkest reaches, beating red,
Terror of sleep. The Nightmare's Heart."
- Seer

Dream Nail:
(Nightmare Realm)
Heart of Flame...
In dreams... Born anew...
Power... Fear...

(Godhome)
Gods... bound by ritual...
Deepest power... the Heart...
Scattered lands... Nightmare binds all...

@lupinusthegoober used /journal name: Nightmare King Grimm

[tired tapir]

I'm late to the money scams didn't I?

[real otter]

the pale king describes will and mind as different things, stabbing himself could be an act of will

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: Husk Bully

Dream Nail:
Get away from me!
Your smell...Kill you...
...Where is it...?
That sweet smell...Burns...
I can't....Wake up...
You want....To hurt me?
I'm not...Dead..
Am I...Sleeping?
...Light...The light...
I'll kill you!

@igotbannedfornoreason122121 used /journal name: Husk Bully text: Dream Nail

[maiden echo]

That is true

[median saffron]

wait..

[maiden echo]

I've never seen that before

[median saffron]

does the infection only affect will?

[maiden echo]

It very clearly affects mind

It could affect will but not only will

[copper spruce]

If the radiance is brainrot what is nightmare

[median saffron]

it seems that they just went insane from wanting whatever the infection was making them crave so bad

[fiery geode]

Wait... I have seen that dream nail dialogue before

[tropic skiff]

Hunter's Journal: God Tamer

Dream Nail:
(Rider)
Get away from me!
Your smell...Kill you...
...Where is it...?
That sweet smell...Burns...
I can't....Wake up...
You want....To hurt me?
I'm not...Dead..
Am I...Sleeping?
...Light...The light...
I'll kill you!

(Mount)
...Light...Danger...
...Safe...Dark...
...Hungry...Hungry...
...Scared...
...Eat...When...
...Kill...Hurt...
...Away. Away...
...Pain...

@lupinusthegoober used /journal name: God Tamer text: Dream Nail

[maiden echo]

Everyone in the game describes the plague as infecting their dreams, something of the mind

It could affect will too because it returns them to base instincts

But that would also have to affect their mind

[median saffron]

i mean

[reef relic]

Wait the god tamer’s infected?

[haughty blade]

the quality sucks ass

[median saffron]

why does the knight have everyone added

[median saffron]

bruh...

[haughty blade]

i don't know, but i created it and just did stuff i saw

[reef relic]

Bruh what

[median saffron]

her mount is literally infected.. but you dont think the rider is..

[fiery geode]

I wonder if the Hunter adds his notes to entries because the knight shows the journal to him

[median saffron]

everyone else in the colloseum is infected..

[haughty blade]

alr here's some better quality

[copper spruce]

Like tiso

[fiery geode]

Tiso die

[reef relic]

I mean we know that some can get infected just to grow stronger I just assumed that god tamer was the same

[median saffron]

oh yeah some do get infected to get stronger but they still go batshit insane

[real otter]

no traitor lord still got controlled, but i’m fairly certain all get stronger

even husk #93992928

[median saffron]

grey mourner x cloth yuri canon

[fiery geode]

Why that one specifically

[median saffron]

what movie is this and what year did it come out headahh

[real otter]

most recent husk i whacked with my nail

[median saffron]

what

wait

[reef relic]

Bc I thought that the colosseum was removed from the whole infection thing

[median saffron]

nvm i misread it

[uncut silo]

I'll stop trying the third pantheom

[median saffron]

all of the bugs bleed infection

[median saffron]

practice sly first, in the pantheons you unlock the special boss when you encounter them, not when you beat them

[uncut silo]

that's fourth pantheom

[median saffron]

no

fourth panteon is pure vessel

[uncut silo]

isn't sly before pv?

[median saffron]

yes

sly is thrid

pure vessel is fourth

[haughty blade]

sly is at end of p3

[uncut silo]

I didn't unlock him

cause I am stuck fighting zote

[median saffron]

practice

[uncut silo]

I hate zote so much

[haughty blade]

gimme a charm combo for p2 bc oblobbles

[median saffron]

pogo off him when he does his run attack

[haughty blade]

BE SERIOUS

[median saffron]

GET STRENGTH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[atomic yew]

that one

[haughty blade]

DIVINE ATE IT AND I HAVE 8K GEOS

[median saffron]

GRIND THE FUCKING COLOSSEUM!!!!!!!1

[uncut silo]

get outta here man we both know zote is buns in the pantheoms

[haughty blade]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[median saffron]

AND ITS GEO NOT GEOS IDIOT!!!

[atomic yew]

i might start glazing zote in spite of this

[haughty blade]

typo

[atomic yew]

even if its true

[uncut silo]

still not a disagreement

[viral ginkgo]

all my homies hate zote

[copper spruce]

Strength more like weakness

[median saffron]

im not ur homie then

[copper spruce]

[median saffron]

zote is the second best npc

[viral ginkgo]

im talking about grey prince not the npc

[median saffron]

oh yeah

grey prince zote is the second best boss

[viral ginkgo]

you are definitly not my homie

[carmine lava]

gpz is one of my favorites

[haughty blade]

imagine dying

[median saffron]

if you dreamnail him he isnt even that egotistical

he just puts on a preformance for whatever reason

and has clogged nostrils

[maiden echo]

Likely he does just want glory

Everyone else in the colosseum just does it for the sport

Tiso could be too

[zealous skiff]

hi quantum

[median saffron]

he did actually make it to the third colosseum

he was probably pretty good at fighting

[wary sphinx]

He is extremely lucky

[maiden echo]

Yeah the colosseum was just actually unfair and threw a mawlek on his head

<@&283547423706447872>

[median saffron]

MODSIVFHBJN

who would win hornet 2 hornet or nailsage sly

[maiden echo]

The knight can beat hornet without any nail arts or spells

Just running around with a nail

[median saffron]

yeah the thing is that isnt canon

thats the game

[maiden echo]

I'm assuming since the nail arts are passed down from the great nailsage

[maiden echo]

What is canon then?

What abilities are canon in the lore of hollow knight?

[median saffron]

idk...

[maiden echo]

Or could it be that some things don't matter to the lore unless the game tells you

Maybe it's up to interpretation

[median saffron]

the spells, the arts, and the movement abilities

im just saying that he didnt go to hornet two without those

[maiden echo]

Says who?

You

Its up to interpretation

If you believe that then that's fine

I believe it doesn't matter because the game doesn't tell you

So

The knight can beat hornet who's not holding back without any nail arts or spells

Since the Nailsage taught the people that teach the knight nail arts

I'm gonna say sly clears

[haughty blade]

gimme a charm combo for p2 (be serious and DIVINE TOOK MY STRENGTH SO NO)

[median saffron]

GRIND MONEY FOR UNBREAKABLE STRENGTH

[haughty blade]

NOT

YET

[median saffron]

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

[maiden echo]

Soul catcher mop quick slash shaman

[haughty blade]

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[haughty blade]

okay

[median saffron]

i was gonna say that

with that big ass nail and with how fast he can swing it he would probably turn hornet into slime

[noble trellis]

quick slash, mop, steady body, heart

[haughty blade]

next one

[maiden echo]

And soul catcher

[noble trellis]

oh uh, didn't calculate this

[zealous skiff]

qs sbody shaman soul eater

[median saffron]

true..

[zealous skiff]

if you dont like sbody replace qs + sbody with qfocus and grubsong lowkey

[maiden echo]

I just don't like steady body because I'm not used to not holding forward so I keep walking into bosses

I'm just not patient enough to learn

But for one notch it seems kinda crazy

[zealous skiff]

it takes like 5 minutes to get used to sbody

[zealous skiff]

it is

[noble trellis]

ew spells

[carmine lava]

crazy statement

[noble trellis]

steady body the goat

[maiden echo]

Not over time, muscle memory has always told me to hold forward or at least tap it

[haughty blade]

i just suck dawg

[maiden echo]

Plus it doesn't fit in my build and I'm fine without it but I do see it's use

[noble trellis]

disregard muscle memory. my build is mop, quick slash, sshadow and steady body

[copper spruce]

Ew nails

[noble trellis]

steady body pairs well with mop and qs

[zealous skiff]

i played without sbody for like the first 100 hours of playing and got used to sbody really quickly.

but to each their own

[maiden echo]

That doesn't even fit

[noble trellis]

you're unallowed to say that

why

[zealous skiff]

sshadow

[copper spruce]

Chomp

[zealous skiff]

misinfo

[copper spruce]

Do you remember that one nkg gif

[maiden echo]

I use sharp shadow too

[zealous skiff]

no?!?!?

[noble trellis]

stop clowning me and my sshadow

[copper spruce]

Where bro got hit 11 times while doing flame pillars

Am i the only one that remembers it wtf

[zealous skiff]

me when you can pogo

[zealous skiff]

how?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!

[copper spruce]

Steady body

[zealous skiff]

i didnt know the attack lasted that long

[copper spruce]

I think

[zealous skiff]

you mean no sbody

[copper spruce]

I need to go find it

[carmine lava]

bro hates on spells but uses sharp shadow

[copper spruce]

With sbody

[noble trellis]

me when you can dodge while doing damage faster than pogoing

[zealous skiff]

then they're shit

[copper spruce]

Lmao

That was milky

[vale condor]

@pulsar root I've heard you are somewhat of a nailguy yourself

[carmine lava]

21 damage to dash vs 32 damage to pogo plus 2 spare notches

[zealous skiff]

except it doesn't deal extra damage it just replaces the nail slash you could've gotten in if you slashed then dashed or pogo dashed

[obtuse brook]

(Not HK related but...)
I CAN FINALLY WRITE THIS
METROID PRIME 4 BEYOND LAUNCHES NEXT WEEK
10 DAYS LEFT FOR NINTENDO SWITCH 1/2

[noble trellis]

32 damage?

[zealous skiff]

[carmine lava]

strength

[copper spruce]

67 damage

[noble trellis]

i've never picked up strength

[copper spruce]

Old hag spotted

[carmine lava]

maybe you should do that if you love nail so much

[noble trellis]

i don't have pure nail either

[noble trellis]

honestly yall might be right

maybe i should retire from sshadow

[fresh isle]

you can get enough hits in on nkg flame pillars to stagger him iirc

[zealous skiff]

hi eloki

[fresh isle]

hi

[copper spruce]

Maybe eloki knows

Cuz i forgor who originally posted it tbh

Fossil lore

[fresh isle]

idk

[noble trellis]

what should i replace sshadow with

[fresh isle]

i go for like 5 hits and a shriek on pillars in r5

[maiden echo]

Eloki

[fresh isle]

hi

[zealous skiff]

literally fucking anything

[noble trellis]

including thorns of agony?

[maiden echo]

Agreed

[zealous skiff]

except this

[fresh isle]

maybe not thorns

[noble trellis]

lol

[frigid mural]

Do i have to kill the brooding malek

[zealous skiff]

stalwart would at least do something

[copper spruce]

Glowing womb

[noble trellis]

you dont have to

[maiden echo]

For pantheons and Colo, yea

[copper spruce]

Use glowing womb

[maiden echo]

And for a mask shard

[copper spruce]

[maiden echo]

I think

[frigid mural]

I just want heath

[maiden echo]

Then yes

[frigid mural]

I’m in fungal wastes I can’t get the mask shards in queens station

[noble trellis]

i'll try ig

imma never get used to not damaging when shadow dash tho

but maybe that's why i shadow dash too much

[copper spruce]

[noble trellis]

ok im gonna go to bed and wake up at 5 am

cya guys

[summer shard]

i love the tiktik it's so cute

it looks like a hamster

i love hamsters

i feel kinda bad whenever i kill a tiktik

[lone laurel]

Well, I have begun my new challenge.

[summer shard]

beautiful

[lone laurel]

I’m going to attempt three distinct Steel Soul Runs for full Completion while using a non-Nail build.

[summer shard]

i think i should do hollow knight steel soul mode

since i've managed to do silksong steel soul

hollow knight should be easier

[lone laurel]

First run will be the ‘Facetank’ attempt. I will try to go for 100% completion using a Charm set centralized around Joni’s Blessing.

Second run will be the ‘Mage’ attempt, focusing on Spell-related Charms to go full Caster.

[carmine lava]

yeah it’s way easier

[reef relic]

Guys I’m at band texting when I shouldn’t be

The chat is worth it

[lone laurel]

Third run will be ‘True Memelord’ run and using a Minion-centered build.

[reef relic]

No nail build?

[lone laurel]

Nail build is the most standardized playstyle so I am trying to attempt non-Nail build runs.

[soft mason]

what is better: strength or quickslash

[reef relic]

Quick slash

[soft mason]

for PV

[lone laurel]

So i’ll be using a Joni’s Blessing-centric Facetank build, a Mage build, and a Minion build.

Strength is generally better, especially later in the game.

[tawdry magnet]

quick slash provides more dps if im not wrong

and more soul for spells

[lone laurel]

Bosses rarely, if ever, sit still or not retaliate long enough for you to get a lot of hits in before they either get out of range or retaliate, forcing you to back off.

[summer shard]

i've never really liked quick slash

[soft mason]

i need to beat PV

I can't have both , i need quick focus

[lone laurel]

Dealing more Damage per hit is more valuable than hitting a lot of times, especially for how jumpy a lot of lategame Bosses are, plus certain foes have Counter-Attacks that flat-out punish you for spamming a lot of hits at once.

Pure Vessel is going to take, above all else, a LOT of practice learning its movepool.

[willow flame]

bro grimm is so annoying

[lone laurel]

It is, to my experience, the hardest fight in the entire game. This is the ultimate test of your skill.

[willow flame]

how do i beat ts

what charms should i use

😮

watch your language!

[lone laurel]

Grimm is fast, but has easy to read telegraphs and dodge windows.

[willow flame]

what charms u recommend

[lone laurel]

Once you figure out his patterns, it’s just a matter of hitting him during the brief moments he’s vulnerable.

[willow flame]

yeah but im kinda bad at that

its tricky to dodge his fireballs

[reef relic]

Grimm is easily my favourite fight

[lone laurel]

Anything works really, though I would recommend Strength if at all possible. Make every hit against him count, since Grimm doesn’t leave chances to strike him very often.

[knotty ravine]

quick slash always

[reef relic]

His attacks are easily telegraphed

[knotty ravine]

It does not matter

quick slash is always the better charm

[willow flame]

spells or nail dmg u recommend

[reef relic]

I refer using nail in the fight

[lone laurel]

Nail hits are better. Grimm doesn’t sit still long enough for Spells to be of much use.

[willow flame]

ok ty

[reef relic]

There aren’t a lot of windows for spells

[willow flame]

yeah i realized that

[lone laurel]

Quick Slash isn’t very good compared to a lot of other Nail options, though.

[knotty ravine]

??????????????

what

what

[reef relic]

There’s that one where you can abyss shriek after the fire plume attack though

[lone laurel]

You could get things like Strength or Mark of Pride, which are significantly more useful.

[willow flame]

dont got that yet

[subtle hull]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-shocked-jaw-dropping-jaw-drop-gif-16611904860785701498

[willow flame]

i sold my strength to divine atm but i got quick slash

[reef relic]

Oh wait this is base Grimm I’m stupid

[knotty ravine]

over quick slash?????????????????????

[lone laurel]

Oh. You’re up a creek with no paddle, then.

Godspeed, my man.

[willow flame]

huh??

[soft mason]

question: how did PV get through path of pain? bro is huge

[nimble trench]

quickslash is less useful than mark of pride?

[lone laurel]

Optimally, yes.

[nimble trench]

did you see the cutscene at the end

[willow flame]

what did u take today bro

[lone laurel]

Quick Slash has its uses, but it’s very heavily situational.

[nimble trench]

it was not a fully grown vessel yet and about the same height as the knight

[knotty ravine]

what

are you on abt

[subtle hull]

mark of pride over quickslash is blasphemous

[nimble trench]

what do you mean situational lol when is quickslash not viable except in like

against MAYBE soul tyrant if youre slow

[lone laurel]

It’s fine against early Bosses and foes who don’t move or are immobile outright, such as Flukemarm, but against most Bosses, especially the late or endgame Bosses, its use diminishes tremendously.

[subtle hull]

39% dps increase is less optimal than hitting a bit further?

are we real

[knotty ravine]

it

does not

[soft mason]

oh, right, so then did pale king just know what HK would look like later?

[knotty ravine]

cuz u can still constantly hit the guy

a lot

A LOT

[nimble trench]

idt so i dont think he knew anything about the beings he created

[knotty ravine]

and you get more damage you get legit infinite soul you get more movement

[soft mason]

cuz it wouldn't make sense to instal those totems AFTER HK went through it

[knotty ravine]

Qs is broken as shit

[lone laurel]

Mostly since late Bosses rarely, if ever at all, sit still long enough to make full use of that Attack Speed amplification.

[willow flame]

nah grim is actually impossible what is this

[willow flame]

her attacks r so unpredictable

[nimble trench]

probably to like honor it or smth

as a trophy for completing it

[copper spruce]

Fact checked with misinformation

[lone laurel]

Since most Bosses only idle for at most 3-4 seconds before either moving out of range or retaliating, forcing you to back off. And certain foes, such as Hornet or Pure Vessel, actively punish you for spamming rapid attacks due to being able to Counter-Attack you.

[knotty ravine]

?

[copper spruce]

I miss seeing this reposted with a random uma

[knotty ravine]

damn fine hold on

[subtle hull]

i see what ur saying, but it makes more sense for u to say that MoP over QS is more useful when ur unsure of windows/learning a boss, it absolutely isnt optimal as u said

[pastel umbra]

stuck on the soul sanctum part of trial of fools

[lone laurel]

Strength and especially Mark of Pride are much better tools.

[knotty ravine]

frankly I do not see the argument at all considering tk is extremely mobile

[willow flame]

what doors can i unlock now that im king

[subtle hull]

its simply less damage and once ur competent enough on almost all bosses it is very easy to take advantage of QS

[knotty ravine]

also the fact that anybody with a brain is going to disagree

[nimble trench]

maybe strength i could see a case for but mark of pride is just ridiculous

[nimble trench]

go to ancient basin

[soft mason]

gimme best charm build for PV and pantheon of hallownest

[willow flame]

ty

[lone laurel]

Yes but most Bosses have some counter to you staying in their proximity too long or are simply too jumpy to reliably keep in Melee range consistency.

[knotty ravine]

no???????

like I have nothing to say except just like this is div 1 misinfo it’s just

[copper spruce]

Agnes

Hi I'm misinfo

[knotty ravine]

don’t call them agnes bro!

[subtle hull]

not really, and once ur at a point where ur fighting bosses in an "optimal" way you should be competent enough to anticipate counters and such

and what boss can even counter

[soft mason]

is there a way to reduce shadow dash cooldown?

[copper spruce]

Tachyon

[subtle hull]

other than pv and hornet

[lone laurel]

Strength lets you make each hit count more, especially on jumpier foes who won’t stay close or force you to fight defensively. Mark of Pride allows you a much wider margin for error and allows you to more easily deal with foes who fight at long range or score extra hits you normally wouldn’t be able to.

[knotty ravine]

No

[copper spruce]

Idk the science horse with thick thighs

[knotty ravine]

go watch beginning of a new era

[subtle hull]

also the fact that almost no one doing impressive boss plays runs MoP should tell u something

[copper spruce]

Is that a threat

[lone laurel]

Then that’ll make me the first, I suppose.

[willow flame]

what do i do

[subtle hull]

play however you wish all power to ya

[pastel umbra]

MoP is a crutch for having good distance management

[subtle hull]

but it isnt optimal at all

[lone laurel]

I’m not sure if it’s just how my playstyle clicks or whatnot, but I just find I operate more comfortably with the longer reach.

[subtle hull]

thats fair enough

[pastel umbra]

door at the bottom of the map

[knotty ravine]

ok but it’s just like

this is just

no

[hollow marsh]

Yo what’s MoP

[nimble trench]

why is qol salubra killer on but not working whatsoever

[lone laurel]

I can get extra hits I normally wouldn’t be able to, and it’s a godsend on fights like Soul Tyrant, The Collector, Grimm, Zote, and the Radiance.

[knotty ravine]

it’s such a fucked take I’m not going to lie to you

[nimble trench]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-spiderverse-dragon-ball-gif-16710249899645766833

[pastel umbra]

mark of pride

[knotty ravine]

qs is the best charm in godhome by a lot

[subtle hull]

what does the 41 next to r0 mean sonia

41st person to clear it?

[lone laurel]

Charm you can get after beating Mantis Lords, gives a large Nail Range increase.

[knotty ravine]

The 1 is separate

[soft mason]

why is pv so bs

[willow flame]

oh

[copper spruce]

What take

[knotty ravine]

qs is a mid charm

[lone laurel]

Pure Vessel is simply the game’s ultimate challenge. It’ll take a lot of practice to learn the fight.

[copper spruce]

I should be the only one spreading misinformation

Not that

[zealous skiff]

I think most r5 victors use mop

[lone laurel]

i’m not spreading misinformation, though?

I’m just going logically off of the Charm’s strengths and weaknesses.

[copper spruce]

I didnt know a lot of them were janitors

[knotty ravine]

and the thing is just that like

[pastel umbra]

there is no weakness tho

[subtle hull]

i said impressive 🤦‍♂️

joking

[knotty ravine]

they do not matter as long as you become competent

[lone laurel]

I mean. I kind of laid it out in extensive detail.

[soft mason]

just got trolled so hard

[knotty ravine]

even with the same windows of hitting the guy, qs is better because it additionally gives soul

[copper spruce]

Wait

[soft mason]

PV started the fight with the counter

[lone laurel]

Quick Slash is neat, but like I said it falters a lot especially the later into the game you get.

[copper spruce]

Quick slash has downsides?

[pastel umbra]

i dont see like anything wrong with it

[knotty ravine]

this is a matter of inexperience tbh

[copper spruce]

[knotty ravine]

no

lmao

[subtle hull]

how far into the game r u zer0

[knotty ravine]

make it 6 notches

[lone laurel]

Since less and less enemies will have idle periods of longer than 1-2 seconds at most.

[knotty ravine]

shit will still be top 1

[pastel umbra]

what?

[lone laurel]

I’ve currently cleared Pantheon 5/Embrace The Void and toppled every Godhome Boss on Attuned.

[willow flame]

where the hell am i

[copper spruce]

Ooooh lqs

[lone laurel]

I think I did do a few on Ascended but I don’t have the full set yet.

[copper spruce]

2 notch quick slashhhhh

[pastel umbra]

where the knight was born

[willow flame]

this looks like hell

[fallow grotto]

hi

[fallow grotto]

u still here 😳

[pastel umbra]

its the abyss so its very voidy

[willow flame]

i left for like 2 hrs

[fallow grotto]

lies

[subtle hull]

radiant bosses without QS sounds annoying

or even ascended

[willow flame]

bru

[lone laurel]

Main weakness to Quick Slash is enemies will rarely sit still long enough to just let you go ham on them. You’re going to face enemies who either constantly get out of range or will retaliate, making it hostile to stay too close.

[pastel umbra]

you get a few upgrades to some stuff in the abyss btw

[copper spruce]

You could just

Parry

Tbh

[lone laurel]

Some Bosses, such as Markoth, are entirely built on basically denying Quick Slash’s whole gimmick and forcing you to fight defensively.

[zealous skiff]

lowk for inexperienced players a lot of them use qs without sbody which leads to them playing rly passively with qs on harder bosses because they are scared of being knocked into an attack/off a platform and can't chase (they dont know upslash exists). I think this might explain why zer thinks theres too small of a window to make use of qs

[fallow grotto]

🤔

lie

[pastel umbra]

okay? just find times and yk, be good enough, im still not seeing weakness

[fallow grotto]

this person wrong

don’t listen to them

[copper spruce]

Buff quick slash it needs to be 2 notches again

[subtle hull]

at a certain level of competence u can apply essentially constant pressure to all bosses

[knotty ravine]

mayb

[subtle hull]

it makes QS so much more useful than MoP

[zealous skiff]

except for when you can punish markoth

[knotty ravine]

I just do not see it

in any way

[lone laurel]

How can you not see it?

[copper spruce]

Chomp fossil

[knotty ravine]

It’s really just a matter of inexperience

[terse scarab]

me when i lie

[fallow grotto]

ngl mop is a waste of notches 😳

[lone laurel]

It’s rather obvious if you’ve been playing as long as I have.

[subtle hull]

i do see it, just not at a high level of play

[zealous skiff]

im not 100% on this but ive definitely seen newer players use qs and attack as infrequently as if they hadnt

[sick prism]

other bosses have lots of windows where you can abuse qs

[soft mason]

why is shadow dash so unreliable

[copper spruce]

How long have you been playing

[zealous skiff]

yuh

[sick prism]

as long as your not buns at the game

[knotty ravine]

1k hours btw

[copper spruce]

Damn sonia makes me seem more washed

Again

[terse scarab]

chomp havent you beaten r5

[copper spruce]

[lone laurel]

Well yeah but this is mostly the early Bosses who will be more merciful in that regard.

[sick prism]

just use sb

[knotty ravine]

hi avery

[sick prism]

no

[terse scarab]

early bosses like absrad and pure vessel

[zealous skiff]

yuh uh also hi avery

[sick prism]

abs rad and pv both have opportunities

[terse scarab]

and nkg

[lone laurel]

Many endgame Bosses are very very jumpy and will either constantly relocate or retaliate frequently.

[subtle hull]

absrad is a constant window tbf

[pastel umbra]

i have around 64ish hours, quickslash only helps me and many others, quite literally no harm has come from this charm

[copper spruce]

Hi avery

[willow flame]

its literally just hell

[terse scarab]

skill issue?

[pastel umbra]

nah hell is red

abyss is black

[terse scarab]

you can very easily abuse qs on even jumpier bosses

[knotty ravine]

I feel like

[terse scarab]

its only really like rad markoth i unequip qs on
and that's cuz im bad at the game

[subtle hull]

if u asked anyone with more than 500 hours i think every single one would disagree with u

[knotty ravine]

I should record myself killing pv

[terse scarab]

i should record myself killing absrad

holdon

[knotty ravine]

or or OR I can shill my shit

[foggy sable]

quickslash is great

[terse scarab]

give me a bit

[zealous skiff]

ok lets say a boss has an attack that leaves a 1 second window to attack.
without qslash thats 2 hits
with qslash thats 4 hits
thats a 200% improvement in damage and soul

[copper spruce]

Grayfire

[heavy barn]

there are literally like 5 bosses this applies to

[zealous skiff]

hi grey

[copper spruce]

Look its marmu

[terse scarab]

yeah qs in theory is 30% and in practice is more like double

[lone laurel]

I mean I guess you could use Quick Slash efficiently but you’d need to feel really comfortable playing a high-risk rushdown sort of playstyle.

[foggy sable]

oh no

[copper spruce]

[foggy sable]

hihi chomp

[terse scarab]

which is the best playstyle

[copper spruce]

Violence is always the answer

[terse scarab]

literally a skill issue

[knotty ravine]

oh my god I don’t have a single thing that isn’t absrad

[lone laurel]

Eh. I prefer to err on the side of caution, myself.

[foggy sable]

so true

[terse scarab]

and normally i wouldnt have a problem with disagreeing opinion but you're coming over here all "well if YOU had MY experience"

when

[zealous skiff]

counting hits and punishing shield spin is all you rly need on markot but yeah he can be in some REALLY shitty positions sometimes. But you just ignore him when he does that

[terse scarab]

you're the inexperienced one here

[lone laurel]

As a whole I prefer to fight defensively rather than aggressively.

[heavy barn]

soul tyrant, no eyes, hu, marmu, vfk

[pastel umbra]

sure, that can be your playstyle, but that doesnt mean you can tell everyone it sucks (qs)

[heavy barn]

every other boss qs can get insane value on

[knotty ravine]

https://youtu.be/Ne56lyS_y3Y quick slash

it’s just like

[foggy sable]

no eyes and vk you can use qs

[copper spruce]

Be like me and make shitty jokes to hide

[zealous skiff]

yeah imagine appeal-to-authority-ing yourself

[knotty ravine]

this is a lot of inexperience

[lone laurel]

I never said it sucks i’m just saying it’s not infallible.

[zealous skiff]

and being in the wrong

[sick prism]

u don’t need to be risky to
use qs

[heavy barn]

yeah but you could at least argue against that

[knotty ravine]

you did say it sucks

[sick prism]

especially with sb

[heavy barn]

also no eyes is rng

[knotty ravine]

in comparison to the other nail charms

[foggy sable]

no eyes qs also works

[terse scarab]

you literally did

[copper spruce]

If QS is so good then why am I wanted by the IRS?

[terse scarab]

you cant move the goalposts now

[copper spruce]

Riddle me that

[pastel umbra]

yeah i didnt like her i just camped the bottom mid platform

[willow flame]

i flicked some lever in the abyss and now theres a huge lamp tahts glowing now what

[lone laurel]

I never said it sucks, though. I just said it has weaknesses.

[heavy barn]

is her tp not just 1/3 chance every time she takes damage

[sick prism]

cross the lake

[foggy sable]

there are challenges I wouldn't take qs on though

[willow flame]

ohh

[foggy sable]

anything marmu related

[heavy barn]

i guess you're still getting more hits anyway

s

[copper spruce]

Charm binding

[foggy sable]

and that

[knotty ravine]

[copper spruce]

[zealous skiff]

and you didn't justify those weaknesses well

[lone laurel]

But I did. I explained them all in very excruciating detail.

[zealous skiff]

and we explained why those explanations were wrong

[lone laurel]

It feels like you’re kind of looking at the Charm with rose-tinted lenses.

[foggy sable]

I don't think so

[subtle hull]

@lone laurel

[heavy barn]

again just because you're not using a charm to its full potential doesn't mean it's bad

[terse scarab]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/12948390822291361172/503747CD30EBD2D059360D311024537FBF73E0A2/ @lone laurel "no opportunity to attack"

[dense fjord]

Hi chat

[nimble trench]

saying a good charm is good

[copper spruce]

Maybe i should bait like this more often

[pastel umbra]

why so many descriptive words

[foggy sable]

you should take notes

[copper spruce]

Uhh

[terse scarab]

cuz they wanna sound smart without actually being smart

[zealous skiff]

I hate people who thinks that everyone misunderstands them and that everyone else is just too dumb to realise when they are just wrong

[copper spruce]

Sister of battle sucks

There

[foggy sable]

I agree

[zealous skiff]

ok but thats correct

[terse scarab]

anyway guys sharp shadow is my favorite charm

[heavy barn]

people have different writing styles

[zealous skiff]

so true me too

[terse scarab]

and i think uumuu is a really good figh

base uumuu

[lone laurel]

Honestly same.

[terse scarab]

godhome kinda ruined it

Holy Shit

I can't be doing this

[zealous skiff]

how am i not surorised

[copper spruce]

Sharp shadow is better than quick slash

[terse scarab]

You're ragebaiting

[pastel umbra]

sharpshadow is meh

[lone laurel]

Sharp Shadow is just free Damage at the only slight downside of adjusting to a longer Dash length.

[rapid bridge]

hello

[nimble trench]

"Slight downside" Ok

[terse scarab]

I literally just tried to say the stupidest thing you could say LOL

[foggy sable]

sharp shadow is literally worse than nothing most of the time

[copper spruce]

Thorns

[rapid bridge]

at a downside of 2 fucking notches

[terse scarab]

sharp shadow is outclassed by pogoing the enemy

[foggy sable]

also worse than nothing but only matters if you get hit

[copper spruce]

Chomp why is it always the sharp shadow glazers

[zealous skiff]

qs gets worse the better you get vs sharp shadow is good idk which wins

[knotty ravine]

question is this a serious statement

[zealous skiff]

thorns is good

qf sucks

[copper spruce]

I might be going insane

[zealous skiff]

leme throw more shit at the wall

[terse scarab]

silksong is worse than hk

[lone laurel]

Well sure it is. I use it quite frequently with great results.

[knotty ravine]

because if so I propose the simple question of why not pogo

[zealous skiff]

elegy is peak

[copper spruce]

Glowing womb is op

[subtle hull]

we can all agree steady body is the best charm and no one tell me to just walk forward

[foggy sable]

what did I walk into

[rapid bridge]

wgat

[pastel umbra]

can we all agree wayward compass is the best charm?

[terse scarab]

name a single situation you can use sharp shadow where pogoing isnt objectively better

[zealous skiff]

im just seeing how bad this mfers charm onions are

[copper spruce]

Marmu chat

[heavy barn]

(he's currently spreading misinformation on the internet for joy and whimsy)

[terse scarab]

i like how you didn't respond to the videos that literally just proved you wrong

[zealous skiff]

wait are we marmu hating now

[lone laurel]

The only real parts of the game I don’t like to bring Sharp Shadow into is White Palace and Path of Pain due to the longer Dash throwing off the proper obstacle course timing.

[copper spruce]

Yws

[foggy sable]

always

[rapid bridge]

marmu is cute

[copper spruce]

We can salavge this by banishing grey

[foggy sable]

marmu isn't number 1 worst boss for no reason

[heavy barn]

also the worst boss in the game

by far

[kindred turtle]

I think Sharp Shadow is a fun option to mess around with, even if it isn't the objectively best charm out there

[rapid bridge]

the only place i would bring ss is exploration

no bossfights

[lone laurel]

Mostly enemies who are a bit too volatile to jump over or in situations where you just need the I-Frames and are otherwise cornered.

[copper spruce]

We should explode anyone that disagrees with me

[soft mason]

Flukemarm is the worst boss

[pastel umbra]

liwk gpz was ass too

[knotty ravine]

ok

[terse scarab]

enemies do not matter in hollow knight lol

[knotty ravine]

it’s just inexperience

[rapid bridge]

bro forgot flukemarm exists

[heavy barn]

nah gpz is really fun

[subtle hull]

sharp shadow just throws me off altogether

[heavy barn]

he's just different

[terse scarab]

its just inexperience again yeah

[soft mason]

It's just a dps check

[knotty ravine]

I think the issue with the QS thing is

[heavy barn]

at least flukemarm obeys the laws of physics

[lone laurel]

I find it helps a lot in the more crowded or chaotic fights, in particular against Zote.

[soft mason]

Worst cuz most boring

[terse scarab]

zote????

[kindred turtle]

Going back to HK really makes me miss Crests and Tools.

[rapid bridge]

[nimble trench]

crystal guardian:

[terse scarab]

gpz right

[lone laurel]

Yes.

[pastel umbra]

got to her with abyss shriek sooo

[heavy barn]

marmu occasionally likes breaking the laws of physics

[knotty ravine]

the evaluation only works under theory that is specific to you

[terse scarab]

yea i dont use shade dash on that fight at all anyway

[rapid bridge]

atleast has some gameplay you can get good at unlike flukemarm

[carmine lava]

i gotta get a faster reclear of them...

[terse scarab]

dive is better

[nimble trench]

the gameplay in question being nail spam

[zealous skiff]

WHY WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF

[knotty ravine]

and tried to apply it to everything, when qs is good in all those situations

[carmine lava]

i wanna get 30 bosses done

[lone laurel]

Dive is good for waveclearing the Zotelings, yeah.

[nimble trench]

but i agree when you can just shred flukemarm with 3 shaman abyss shrieks

[carmine lava]

this is my current progress

[copper spruce]

But sonia
Qs can't file my taxes

So it sucks

[carmine lava]

saved about 23 minutes

26 bosses done

[zealous skiff]

are you aiming for sub 2hour 04rhog or just rebeating things however quickly you feel like?

[knotty ravine]

Haven’t tried hard enough

[rapid bridge]

you gonna have ddark by then

[zealous skiff]

damn fuck

[subtle hull]

the whole conversation is entirely subjective the only problem was the use of the word optimal

[zealous skiff]

based for not doing wk

[carmine lava]

sub 2.5 hours isn't even happening lol

[zealous skiff]

what are you at rn?

[copper spruce]

Uhh fuck

[soft mason]

Same here, I could really use ||clawmirrors with witch crest and plasmium overdose|| at this moment

[copper spruce]

Dashmaster is good

[carmine lava]

let me see

[knotty ravine]

Thank you for being real firered

[copper spruce]

Wait that's not misinformation

No

[lone laurel]

Well. It’s optimal for me, anyhow. Not sure what you lads find optimal, but godspeed.

[knotty ravine]

you moved the goalpost

[subtle hull]

yea thats fair enough

most people just use the word optimal a lot more strictly

[subtle hull]

in a more objectively applicable sense

[copper spruce]

We should delete sharp shadow to prevent future debates

[terse scarab]

see its not something we "find optimal" its something that is optimal

[rapid bridge]

yes

[lone laurel]

I usually use Optimal in relation to what I personally have found to work well rather than in a generalist sense.

[terse scarab]

you are just blatantly incorrect

[carmine lava]

about 2:42:14

[pastel umbra]

wayward the best charm

[lone laurel]

Since the game doesn’t really have a fully Optimal build, as every player will take to the game differently and find a different playstyle to their taste.

[zealous skiff]

shit thats good

[terse scarab]

it does, actually

its shamans strength qs steady body

[foggy sable]

the thing is the game does have an optimal set of charms

[terse scarab]

so

again

wrong on that account

[zealous skiff]

qs sbody shamans strength filler 1 notch

[lone laurel]

I mean that’s optimal by sheer speed, sure.

[foggy sable]

maybe like 10 viable endgame charms with some being much better than others

[zealous skiff]

and depending on experience switch ut random shit

[terse scarab]

you can ask any major player int he game and you will get the same answer

[zealous skiff]

and for oc replace filler with mop

[terse scarab]

oc?

[zealous skiff]

overcharm

[terse scarab]

overcharm

[lone laurel]

No, I won’t. Humans don’t work like that. We’re not all Speedrunners.

[terse scarab]

my bad

[copper spruce]

[subtle hull]

things can be tangentially optimal to certain play-styles, ur all just taking what hes saying too literally

[terse scarab]

then accept that you're using a sub optimal loadout

its okay

you dont constantly need to be the best

[foggy sable]

not for speedrunning, for pretty much any lategame challenge that doesn't involve charmless

[lone laurel]

Like I said in games like this everyone finds their own niche and has their own preferences.

[terse scarab]

but this is the Optimal loadout

[copper spruce]

How many more hills are we gonna die on

[foggy sable]

all of them

[terse scarab]

also speedrunning is just shamans

[soft mason]

I blame rng for my suffering with pv

[copper spruce]

This is like

The 6th hill

[knotty ravine]

but like

[terse scarab]

i need to let off some steam i love being angry at some random person on the internet

[zealous skiff]

*outside of radiance mods 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮

[knotty ravine]

that IS the optimal loadout

generally

[foggy sable]

radiance mods aren't real

[terse scarab]

like

yeah

[knotty ravine]

qs strength shamans +2

[foggy sable]

name 3 good radiance mods

[knotty ravine]

usually sbody +1

[foggy sable]

exactly

[terse scarab]

sunset is pretty good

uhh

[copper spruce]

Any radiance 1.0
2.0
3.0

[terse scarab]

purity

[copper spruce]

[subtle hull]

this is literally just a case of people using the same word to mean different things and neither being wrong bruh

[copper spruce]

Empress of light

[knotty ravine]

purity, sunset rads, immlight

[soft mason]

How is PV reading me like a damn book

[terse scarab]

the word has a definition

[lone laurel]

Honestly I find Radiance a pretty easy fight.

[copper spruce]

Wonder why

[foggy sable]

okay in my defense I hadn't heard of the third one

[terse scarab]

who asked

[lone laurel]

Because it’s Pure Vessel.

[subtle hull]

the definition doesnt adhere strictly to either use

[copper spruce]

Sonia are you in the fossil server

[pastel umbra]

i personally use heart rather than shaman and add steady body but i might try using shaman more

[foggy sable]

but the fact you both named the 3 same mods also sort of proves the point there aren't many and therefore aren't real

[copper spruce]

Aka anyradcord

[terse scarab]

okay im going back to playing a good game lolll

[zealous skiff]

immortallight is good but make sure you turn on the zoomout setting if you ever try it

it makes climb possible

[soft mason]

I need a way to cheese PV

[lone laurel]

There is none.

[foggy sable]

I'd rather run overworld than do absrad mods tbh

maybe except purity

[lone laurel]

Like I said, beating this thing will take time and patience and practice. You can’t rush this.

[rich pike]

why would you call it a fossil server

[copper spruce]

Because it's full of fossils

[soft mason]

Does he actually aim when he shoots the sword projectiles?

[knotty ravine]

thats true

[lone laurel]

Pure Vessel is brutalizingly difficult and will punish the smallest mistake.

[rich pike]

XD

[zealous skiff]

just out of curiosity how many hours do you have in the game

[carmine lava]

pure vessel isn't really fun

[foggy sable]

yes

[carmine lava]

maybe i've just played them in the most unfun way possible though

[rich pike]

agreed

Suscar is insane

[foggy sable]

I've never liked PV and don't plan to start now

[heavy barn]

in what way

[copper spruce]

But you love marmu

[carmine lava]

it was one of my least enjoyed 04r reclears

[foggy sable]

incorrect

[rich pike]

D: all of the above

[zealous skiff]

there is like 1 or 2 ways to dodge each attack it gets so samey

[heavy barn]

true...

[foggy sable]

but I did 04r PV in 1 try and haven't played it since so at least there is that

[zealous skiff]

maybe thats just cus we've played it 1000x tho

[willow flame]

bro where is the fog canyon cornifer

[carmine lava]

also it took me so long to reclear 04r pv that it just became miserable

[willow flame]

i can hear him but cant find him

[carmine lava]

i don't like pv because i'm bad at pv lol

[copper spruce]

Behind the shade gate

I think

[foggy sable]

same same same same

[willow flame]

nvm found him

[carmine lava]

you first tried 04r pv

[zealous skiff]

mood for like a lot of bosses

[willow flame]

ik but it was hidden

[carmine lava]

i took an hour to reclear 04r pv

[copper spruce]

Cornifer is void

Obviously

[foggy sable]

Relative to how good I should be at the fight I am bad

[reef relic]

I’m bad at sly but I love sly’s character does that count

[soft mason]

God damn, PV is hard but fun

[carmine lava]

i think you should just stop commenting on your own skill

[foggy sable]

no

[pastel umbra]

nah radiance is void duh

[heavy barn]

no are you dumb

[copper spruce]

Call each other washed please

[heavy barn]

shade gate is cornifer

[reef relic]

As mid as sharp shadow is, it really carries me through the pure vessel fight

[carmine lava]

you're soooooo bad for taking 50 hours on r5 it's honestly embarassing

[foggy sable]

of all the rab bosses pv was my worst for a while

[copper spruce]

[carmine lava]

why don't you grow up and do it in 10

[foggy sable]

I need a time machine for that now

[knotty ravine]

and then they disappeared LOL

[zealous skiff]

idk if you like sly that isn't the samr thing i was describing but idt it matters rly

[zealous skiff]

ikr

its wierd

its almost as if they were talking out of their ass

[copper spruce]

Bro dipped

[nimble trench]

how do people grow to rely on sharp shadow for PV is it just dashing through them

[knotty ravine]

amusing convo though

[reef relic]

I have around 40 hours

[copper spruce]

I should take notes on this sort of ragebait

[foggy sable]

I gotta find some silly hill to die on some time this was fun

[lone laurel]

I return.

[knotty ravine]

oh yo

lmao???

[copper spruce]

Lmao

[foggy sable]

round 2?

[lone laurel]

I have about 300-ish hours, upon checking.

[knotty ravine]

btw. raise ur hand if qs is top 1 easily

[reef relic]

Done everything except PoP and p5

[zealous skiff]

🖐️

[copper spruce]

Sonia isn't it like 2 am there

[foggy sable]

yes

[zealous skiff]

and you still don't see a use in qs late game

[foggy sable]

but it doesn't mean I like using it

[reef relic]

I’m an Aussie

[carmine lava]

shaman is top 1

[knotty ravine]

midnight

[lone laurel]

Not really, no.

[copper spruce]

I haven't used qs in a long time

Shaman has been glued to me

[rich pike]

Timezone twins

[zealous skiff]

i didnt see this cya

[lone laurel]

I just prefer Strength, Shaman, and Mark of Pride.

[copper spruce]

And sharp shadow?

[lone laurel]

Yes.

[copper spruce]

Okay.

[zealous skiff]

thats normal

[copper spruce]

🤯

[rich pike]

Another MoP user smh

[foggy sable]

MoP is so fun

and good

[rich pike]

wut

[pastel umbra]

never doing pop ever

[shrewd nymph]

Cool people online

[zealous skiff]

hi lune

[heavy barn]

you missed the mop > qs argument

[zealous skiff]

scroll up

[heavy barn]

so sad

[foggy sable]

wdym it is

[lone laurel]

Indeed. I like finding neat spots of hitting Bosses in certain animations I couldn’t have otherwise struck them before.

[copper spruce]

Hi lune

[shrewd nymph]

How far, i saw a bit

[copper spruce]

I am not real

[zealous skiff]

like?

[rich pike]

I was gone for 2 seconds