hk-discussion

[sick bison]

What in pure vessel could possibly be random

[zinc delta]

i wish god tamer was at the end of colo 3 instead of regular enemy waves if you didn't save zote

[nimble trench]

if you learn how to parry and pogo its attacks you will see its not luck based at all

[zinc delta]

it would give him a use instead of being a pantheon boss

[wicked kiln]

when he dashes pogo when he does his sword attack pogo when he does his sword shot dash when he does his tentacles pogo when he does hi spikes pogo when he does the org attack ddark

just pogo

[gentle rampart]

good enough?

[naive sonnet]

i refuse to ddark ever

[nimble trench]

its like nkg where if you learn how to deal with its attacks and know how to fight when its in the middle of going through its attacks

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/btweers-gif-12554037691025205909

[worthy peak]

It can feel like luck without being luck

[teal basalt]

how did you add 5 hours in half an hour or so 😭

[naive sonnet]

i have done radhog and i intend to go further if possible

ddark has only ever harmed me

[wicked kiln]

mw too

[gentle rampart]

cloud error internet is ass here

[wicked kiln]

say that whem fighting an radiance hartder than absoulute

[nimble trench]

how does ddark harm you unless you genuinely just dont know how to use it

[teal basalt]

not even half an hour but 10 minutes

[worthy peak]

You should learn but you definitely can go further

[teal basalt]

it happens to me too

a lot

[naive sonnet]

stupid long wind up time that gets you hit on any vaguely fast boss

[gentle rampart]

i had ahem,.. 67 hours WITH internet but 72 hours offline

that's why

[wicked kiln]

thats why you predict the next attack

[worthy peak]

Not knowing how to use spells effectively is actually easy to occur

[teal basalt]

it shows 40 hours on a game but its just 3 hours

[teal basalt]

oh i understand

[wicked kiln]

it just means you didnt reach that skill level of using it effectively

[vivid creek]

Isn't it like 13 frames of windup before iframes begin?

Just gotta look like less than a second ahead

[nimble trench]

windup time that takes less than like half a second

[naive sonnet]

but then there's stuff like nkg and pure vessel who are literally too fast to accurately predict the attack that you're gonna be dealing with when ddark hits

[worthy peak]

No...

[vivid creek]

Seems like a skill issue

[nimble trench]

they telegraph their attacks before they happen

[worthy peak]

They are slow enough for it

[dawn nimbus]

I bough hk a few weeks ago and I have 46 hours on it is that good

[wicked kiln]

NKG yes pure vessel no

[nimble trench]

sure its a short amount of time but you can see when they telegraph exactly and youll have time to ddark beforehand

[teal basalt]

pretty nice

[nimble trench]

its a short time window but very possible

[worthy peak]

You have by far enough time to react and Ddark for both

[zinc delta]

what have you beaten so far

[naive sonnet]

pure vessel is already too fast to consistently react to most moves consistently
and that's without wasting a second on a spell that does fucking nothing

[wicked kiln]

there is no reason to at NKG

[vivid creek]

This has gotta be bait

[wicked kiln]

like at all

[worthy peak]

It's probably less time than it takes to jump out the way

[wicked kiln]

then you arent skilled enough lol

[worthy peak]

But you can

[wicked kiln]

duh but utterly useless

[zinc delta]

i wish you could replay pop

[nimble trench]

get QoL mod

[wicked kiln]

get debug mod

[nimble trench]

it has an infinite PoP toggle option

[wicked kiln]

lets you noclip into the room

[naive sonnet]

that's why i see pure vessel as random
because if it so happens to teleport right next to you before doing an attack you're just fucked

[worthy peak]

It does damage and lets you hit dive like an extra time

[zinc delta]

i play on console

[wicked kiln]

oh

[worthy peak]

It does more than fireball

[zinc delta]

i guess i gotta jailbreak my ps5

or ps4

idk

[wicked kiln]

precise nail hit still outdamage precise ddark

[wicked kiln]

dont work like that

[nimble trench]

PV isnt random thats just part of shitty repositioning and every boss has this problem

[zinc delta]

awh

[worthy peak]

What if you r better at spells

[wicked kiln]

he is tho

every boss is random

doesnt mean they arent predictable

you cant say ''he will do that then this then that'' before the fight

[worthy peak]

Also have you counted the damage

[elder oriole]

My Latin teacher looks like zote

[nimble trench]

in a semantic sense yes they are random

[mild sorrel]

Good to be back

[mild sorrel]

Funny enough i noticed that if you don't attack the guy right after every attack they kinda just don't do anything for a good second

[worthy peak]

And weighted for how precise they are

[wicked kiln]

then thats a massive problem nail outclasses spells by dps and effectiveness

[nimble trench]

but they are very much predictable and not random enough to where you cant see its telegraphed attacks

[worthy peak]

And does shaman stone change it

[amber meadow]

The hollow knight is real and existed until 1779

[worthy peak]

I think shaman stone Ddark probably does more damage

[mild sorrel]

True.
Honestly nail is overall better late game however spells are very easy to get yet op for hpw early you get them

[worthy peak]

Than two nail hits

[elder oriole]

Pure vessel is a nice fight

[wicked kiln]

shaman stone puts spells and nails at the most power even but spells are nail reliant nails arent spell reliant and the dps is still stupidly better

[elder oriole]

If you have shade cloak

[wicked kiln]

1 damage

more

and you can get 4 hits in with 1 ddark

so

[mild sorrel]

Yea honestly nail is better in late game that's for sure

[wicked kiln]

32 times 4

[wicked kiln]

early game they are broken

[worthy peak]

And I think that as a result there is a use case for Ddark when he does the dive as you can reasonably get the dive and one nail hit it

As opposed to maybe two nail hits

[young night]

Guess the character by the dream nail dialogue: “...oh no oh no oh no oh nonono...”

[naive sonnet]

i mean you can see it but this is the only fight where reaction time is a genuine problem
i can do radiant nkg and sly with consistency and i sometimes just can't react to pure vessel
this usually happens once per fight, sometimes more

[worthy peak]

Cause invulnerability gives you the extra time

[zinc delta]

should i go for 20 radiance kills tomorrow which is +10?

[mild sorrel]

Spells are way more broken and accessible in early game imo
Like for ddark all you need is the lamp which you are buying for deepnest anyway

[worthy peak]

So NKG dive has a use case

I mean Ddark

[wicked kiln]

by the time you did 1 ddark you already did 4 nail hits witzh turn around

[mild sorrel]

Maggot

[elder oriole]

Is it a boss or an npc

[young night]

Correct

[south nova]

It always feels nice to no hit pv, such a fun boss

[worthy peak]

That is more precise and not applicable to the attack

[wicked kiln]

and talking full potential nail does 56 damage bruh

[wicked kiln]

its as precise as an ddark when NKG attacks

[mild sorrel]

Anyways what's the discourse now guys

[worthy peak]

How so?

Turn around a are hard to aim

[elder oriole]

Discorf

[worthy peak]

Ddark is like just a half second window

[elder oriole]

Lemen

[wicked kiln]

when NKG spawns and you dont ddark right that second you are gonna get hit depending on the attack

[wicked kiln]

not really

[mild sorrel]

Lemon

[worthy peak]

This is talking about one attack

[elder oriole]

Lennon

[mild sorrel]

Hive knight

[elder oriole]

Lemm?

Lemmon

[worthy peak]

You get like 0.2 seconds to Ddark in

[elder oriole]

I'm hungrhy

Should I eat

[sick bison]

You tell me

[elder oriole]

No u

[wicked kiln]

imma beat NKG using ddark and then come back okay?

[zinc delta]

is beating 10 radiances good or bad?

[sick bison]

No then

[mild sorrel]

Welp now I have everything to do radhog

Again

[worthy peak]

It's nowhere near as precise as four nail turnarounds while jumping

[worthy peak]

What will that prove

[sick bison]

At the same time ?

[zinc delta]

no one after another

[elder oriole]

When I did trial of the fool for the first time I forgot to save so I had to do it again

[sick bison]

Thats the same as jus killing one then

[zinc delta]

so i basically did 11 thk

[worthy peak]

Make sure to use it at the right attacks

[elder oriole]

Why would you do that

[zinc delta]

idk

challenge

[wicked kiln]

that ddark is easier to get hits in with than nail?

[elder oriole]

Pure vessel in a vessel

[worthy peak]

That wasn't my claim my claim was that it was
A easier than nail turnarounds
B more damage with a low skill on the dive attack

Cause I think you can Ddark and nailhit afterwards on the dive

[wicked kiln]

yeah what i meant but either way i beat him

whiole using ddark

and you were in the right

[worthy peak]

Huh really?

[wicked kiln]

i managed to get 3 hits in at the drill attack

23 50 and 15 with 1 ddark

[mild sorrel]

Holy shit

[worthy peak]

I thought it would take practicing too do it for it to work

[wicked kiln]

well i am currently fighting any radiance 1.0

[mild sorrel]

I probably got like 5 achievements LMAO

[wicked kiln]

ddark timing is my main priority rn

[mild sorrel]

I never did dream no more before

[wicked kiln]

damn thats alot of achievments at once

[worthy peak]

Ohhhh is that what I'm doing wrong

[wicked kiln]

wdym

[mild sorrel]

Ikr

[worthy peak]

Honestly my main priority is better face dancing

[south nova]

Hey what would yall say is the p4 boss that gives you the most trouble

[past plinth]

who tf is this he's everywhere

[south nova]

Bc like. WOW im bad at white defender

[worthy peak]

I didn't think Ddark timing was the main priority

When practicing

[wicked kiln]

i am good ata face dancing already and i beat phase 1 for the first tiume today

but platform killed me fast

[rare aurora]

i used other movement as well, tho the strat doesn’t really require anything else

[wicked kiln]

dude thanks foer the ddark grimm tipp

[worthy peak]

Good luck I just put it on half damage cause I'm scared and I suck

[wicked kiln]

i consistently get 23 50 15 tripple damage hits in

83 damage

with 1 ddark

when i nbormally always got 32

[wicked kiln]

it def is

without ddark you wont dodge the light balls

[rare aurora]

it’s also not my strat!

[worthy peak]

Sure put the timing always seemed more just DO IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE more than timing

[wicked kiln]

altho i currently manage to more often dodge the balls without ddark

by squeeziing and jiggling between them

[worthy peak]

I feel you

[wicked kiln]

imo that is the timing

but as an example

when 2 light walls

attack myou

and he does the light ball attack

[worthy peak]

Get hit next question

[naive sonnet]

tips for doing hitless attuned nosk
i find the ascended/radiant arena significantly easier so nosk is an issue in r2

[wicked kiln]

you gotta dash through the first wall wait then ddark into the second wall dash again and hope it worked

i managed to do it 2 times no hit back to back today

i was so excited

[worthy peak]

Why on earth would NOBODY mention this

[elder oriole]

No will to break

[faint sorrel]

Absolute radiance cant be that bad right?

[worthy peak]

It's not like it's obvious

[wicked kiln]

dude just stand besides the middle thing

[wicked kiln]

right?

[faint sorrel]

It’s Markoth difficulty

[wicked kiln]

nobody in the any radiance server told me

[naive sonnet]

multiple attacks where that doesn't work

[wicked kiln]

i found it out myself

[wicked kiln]

such as?

[naive sonnet]

the ceiling one

[wicked kiln]

dude

[naive sonnet]

whenever it's running at you

[wicked kiln]

just walk

that attack is not hard

[wicked kiln]

dash through him#

[worthy peak]

I think they must just go in the centre and actually know timings for dodging it from there

[naive sonnet]

also more prominently that strategy is boring as shit

[wicked kiln]

let me search this clip actually

[naive sonnet]

if i try that i Will do something stupid to make things faster

[wicked kiln]

where i did it 2 times back to back

[worthy peak]

I hear that walking slightly one way then dashing the other way can get you a bit more space

[worthy peak]

Do enough stupid and the stupid becomes smart

[mild sorrel]

Radienting markoth on ascended but not radiant fucking hurts dude

[worthy peak]

If you can do it once you can do it again

[finite ember]

guys is there a way to re-play path of pain

[naive sonnet]

No

[worthy peak]

Mods

That generally works

[finite ember]

how?

[junior sapphire]

yippee I beat nkg :D

[naive sonnet]

i have gotten to nosk in r2 three times and i have lost all three times

[finite ember]

help

[junior sapphire]

there is but u gotta do it on a new save and make sure u don't watch the cutscene at the end

then u just gotta quit out and it won't register as completed

atleast I think lol

that's just what I heard

[wicked kiln]

thats the problem it doesnt really work

[worthy peak]

Well you look up lumafly

[finite ember]

i don't have another file i played path of pain in less than an hour on my first play thro and i want to play it again

[worthy peak]

I hear Nothing really works and you just get hit most of the time

[wicked kiln]

my tactic works the best imo

did you even understand what i ment?

[junior sapphire]

yeah you prob have to start a new save then

also well done in beating it in an hour took me like 5 :)

[worthy peak]

I Will DEFINITELY try it

Look up lumafly click install

[finite ember]

it was very easy like i have beaten celeste 100% + farewell then my friend told me that hollow knight wasa harder so thats why am trying to re-play path of pain

to prove that its easy

[worthy peak]

Mod that does it is probably Qol

[junior sapphire]

yeah that extra practice'll help lol

hk is basically the first game i've played thats really anything like it so i'm unbelievably bad

[worthy peak]

The friend doesn't get that PoP needs to be compared to the endgame of Celeste not the early game then

Though arguably you could compare it to a 7A crystal heart

Which might give grounds to claim PoP is harder

[harsh flower]

Wow I didn't expect radiance to be this hard

[worthy peak]

But that's pushing it

[harsh flower]

I hate bosses that deal two masks tbh

[mild sorrel]

Markoth done

[harsh flower]

But I completed silksong somehow

[worthy peak]

.. Do you have a heal playstyle by any chance

[finite ember]

farewell is a dlc that you unlock after 100% the game

[worthy peak]

PoP is also endgame dlc

[junior sapphire]

u should try beating literally any boss on radiant

[worthy peak]

No you don't need 100%

Also I said ENDGAME not Farewell

[earnest bear]

PoP is a lot easier than even early game celeste imo

[finite ember]

yah farewell is like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. PoP i was hard

[worthy peak]

I would definitely disagree

But I'm not sure where the line is

[junior sapphire]

ok now I don't wanna play celeste 😅

[finite ember]

no you have to get every crystal heart

[worthy peak]

You need 16 of 24 available

[finite ember]

i think PoP = easiest b side

[worthy peak]

I did farewell before any c sides so I know

[worthy peak]

Maybe

[finite ember]

did u beat the whole level

[worthy peak]

Yes

I got moon berry too

[finite ember]

tbh i don't understand i couldn''t unlock farewell until i got every heart

[teal basalt]

celeste in hk chat

[wicked kiln]

@worthy peak

[worthy peak]

Did you get the secret hearts

[finite ember]

@worthy peak what mod should i download

[worthy peak]

QoL I think does what you are looking for

[finite ember]

ok

[worthy peak]

Beautiful drawings

[harsh flower]

Maybee...

[finite ember]

no i haven't

what are those

[zealous skiff]

you can skip the gate with a wavedash i think

[wicked kiln]

🥹

[junior sapphire]

peak

[finite ember]

you need to be like a tas also thats cheating

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/epico-gif-10005337172608430078

[zealous skiff]

im pretty sure it was intended iirc* and it really isnt that difficult

[finite ember]

am sure it wasn't

[worthy peak]

Each area has a secret blue crystal heart

Except maybe core

But I think they do too

[worthy peak]

More than one I'm pretty sure

[wicked kiln]

it does

i mean core

[zealous skiff]

it doesn't really matter whats intended tho tbf

[finite ember]

those are just norrmal hearts

[zealous skiff]

its just you dont need every heart for farewell

[worthy peak]

Makes sense given I have 3 rows of 8 and not 2rows of 8 and one of7

[finite ember]

thats just ... not my style

[worthy peak]

They are stored in secret locations

[wicked kiln]

what😭

[worthy peak]

They are THE secret hearts

[wicked kiln]

bro was keyboard mashing

[worthy peak]

I don't like spaces

[finite ember]

yah those are just norrmal hearts

i got all of those

[worthy peak]

Well then you overshot cause you only need two thirds of the hearts

Unless you missed c-sides or something but that's unlikely

Given the premise that you were confused I did farewell forst

[wicked kiln]

celeste was too short

[worthy peak]

Indeed

[wicked kiln]

took me 30 hours to beat everything

besides golden strawberry

[worthy peak]

Except it took me ages cause comb room made me quit for months

More than once

[limber wigeon]

Question, if I wanna share a boss tierlist of both games, where should I go? I made one with both HK and SS

[worthy peak]

The discussion areas of both games I think

Here is good for the HK one

[limber wigeon]

Thats the thing its only 1 tier list with both games in it lol

[worthy peak]

Well that's a problem

[wicked kiln]

go to silksong

[limber wigeon]

Alright

[worthy peak]

SS discussion is better

[limber wigeon]

ty

[worthy peak]

Cause eotherwise spoilers

[wicked kiln]

the 2 hours were mostly afk

so it was under 30hours

6900 deaths

lel

[worthy peak]

I only know that I have 10000 deaths on mine

Unfortunately not the hours

I think I have 180 strawberries

I had to go back and collect em.all eventually

[worthy peak]

That's a low number of deaths I think

[acoustic steppe]

Is this talking tom for the gold? 🤔

[worthy peak]

What?

[acoustic steppe]

That Game from the playstore

[junior sapphire]

nice

[finite ember]

i did about 4k (my right hand was broken am right handed)

[worthy peak]

Show the screenshot

[harsh flower]

Yo radiance is beating the absolute shit out of me 😭

[worthy peak]

I would but I'm on phone right now

[worthy peak]

Get better

And then get better

[junior sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-gitgud-silksong-hollowknight-gif-11555526335271834339

[worthy peak]

Until she must COWER before your MIGHT

[mild sorrel]

Obblobles done thanks to heavy blow

[finite ember]

i deleted the game i didn't have space + i didn't bought it i got it from _________

[junior sapphire]

heavy blow was actually useful for once??? dramatic gasp

[worthy peak]

Sad

[finite ember]

well 🏴‍☠️☠️

[worthy peak]

I got to go sleep now don't ping me unless important please

[mild sorrel]

It's actually fucking insane for radiant obblobles let me tell you

[finite ember]

@worthy peak goodnight hoomie

🙂

[worthy peak]

Night

[junior sapphire]

ye that actually makes a decent amount of sense

cuz their projectiles are easier to dodge the further they are

[wicked kiln]

celeste pmo

its such an controller game

[junior sapphire]

hol up you play silksong on mobile 😨

[wicked kiln]

never thought about it

[copper spruce]

Touhou boss

[mild sorrel]

Ya how'd know

[junior sapphire]

ur server tag

says silksong mobile modding

[mild sorrel]

Oh
I forgor

[junior sapphire]

happens

[knotty laurel]

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[wicked kiln]

hornet is stronger

[finite ember]

if u think about it mobile hollow knight / silk and song is 🏴‍☠️☠️

[knotty laurel]

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[naive sonnet]

i have officially lost r2 to nosk on 4 separate occasions

[wicked kiln]

hornet is spider god

[junior sapphire]

do you really have to display your hk and ss percentage in your name...

[turbid fractal]

who decided that ?

[knotty laurel]

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[wicked kiln]

which attacks?

[junior sapphire]

the knight was literally born from 2 higher beings and infused with another

[wicked kiln]

me

[knotty laurel]

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[naive sonnet]

usually the ceiling drop but the charge gets me sometimes too

[wicked kiln]

no

[junior sapphire]

oh ignore this mb i misunderstood

[naive sonnet]

if they had just used the ascended arena this wouldn't be a problem for me

[wicked kiln]

why dont you just walk😭

[knotty laurel]

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[turbid fractal]

that's good then

[wicked kiln]

lmaoooooooooooo

[naive sonnet]

the ascended arena is so much easier than the normal one

[turbid fractal]

who decided that ?

[junior sapphire]

u do have to admit hornet is like a million times more agile than the knight

[spiral vault]

Hornet>hornet

[junior sapphire]

omds

[acoustic steppe]

Wsp

[knotty laurel]

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[wicked kiln]

i agree

hornet neggs hornet

[knotty laurel]

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[junior sapphire]

i'm such an idiot lol

[naive sonnet]

team cherry when designing nosk in godhome, apparently

[acoustic steppe]

If knight where in silksong, that game would be very easy

[junior sapphire]

:o thank u those people who said no :)

[wicked kiln]

there is a mod that does that and youre right lol

[turbid fractal]

that's good then. when someone has decided so. That's right.

[spiral vault]

I'm just👀👀👀👀sooooo👀👀👀👀ugly👀👀

[acoustic steppe]

Ik hehe

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/let’s-take-a-look-look-looking-big-cat-gif-3031494300177389811

[junior sapphire]

except for a couple parkour sections that are literally impossible if i'm not mistaken

[wicked kiln]

https://m.bleed.bot/ubm-deb95634.gif

[copper spruce]

Ok

[acoustic steppe]

Pasa ese contexto 👀

[junior sapphire]

kitty :D

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/ravend-gif-22724492

[junior sapphire]

oh wait no its ai that makes me sad now

[acoustic steppe]

This is a gorilla not a cat btw

[junior sapphire]

naturally

[acoustic steppe]

There is nothing wrong with ai ❤️‍🩹

[junior sapphire]

...

ykw imma not fall for the ragebait

[acoustic steppe]

I'm not ragebaiting

[junior sapphire]

yeah huh

thats what they all say

heh

[wicked kiln]

duh😭

[junior sapphire]

i saw the kitty before it did the peace sign and monkeh brain took over

[wicked kiln]

no ai really isnt as bad as people say

[junior sapphire]

how so?

[wicked kiln]

well how is it bad

[acoustic steppe]

We use ai on chatgpt

Lit

[wicked kiln]

you said its bad

[copper spruce]

@grok is this true

[spiral vault]

[junior sapphire]

-it's prob gonna reduce the number of jobs by a lot

[wicked kiln]

@remote onyx how long u been stalking lol

[wicked kiln]

hell no

i cant think of many that it will replace

ai is just too dumbn

[junior sapphire]

-it's feeding off of real people's art to make its own

[spiral vault]

That's th e main thing

[wicked kiln]

people forget ai doesnt ahev infinite mpotential

[remote onyx]

For like 1 minute xd

[copper spruce]

I always wanted ai to replicate my dead relatives

[junior sapphire]

it's getting smarter tho

[junior sapphire]

excuse me

[spiral vault]

And also like datacenters consume a lotta water

[wicked kiln]

yeah thats an singular problem not overall ai i also hate ai art

[copper spruce]

What

[junior sapphire]

also students are using it to cheat in school

[acoustic steppe]

Nothing wrong btw ❤️‍🩹

[spiral vault]

We got a nerd over here

[junior sapphire]

I mean I literally used ai to "help" with homework a few days ago so i'm a hypocrite

[wicked kiln]

an ai works by guessing you say an sentence ''are pineapples poisonus'' it takes ''pineapple poisounus'' look through the web it has been fed by and just guesses the answer there is no intelligence

[copper spruce]

We really need cloudflare to die for a month to see what happens

[junior sapphire]

why thank you 🤓

[wicked kiln]

ai is stupid as shit

and gets dumber by generation

cause its been fed by more sources

[copper spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-0-tachibana-gif-2262573677281692482

[spiral vault]

Well idk about that

[wicked kiln]

meaning more things switched up

[junior sapphire]

I guess but it's getting better at framing it as intelligence which actually makes it more dangerous

[wicked kiln]

it will see this is that and that is this and spit out bullshit

[acoustic steppe]

Like tralaleritos 🥀

[wicked kiln]

ai is already dying

[junior sapphire]

sybau 🥀

[dreamy girder]

Wdym

Seems to be interested in so many things

[acoustic steppe]

What did I do jeje

[dreamy girder]

Can’t avoid it

It kinda sucks but I can hardly care

Also hi yall

[junior sapphire]

idk abt that

i think that the novelty has worn off

[acoustic steppe]

What type of bug is the knight

[wicked kiln]

ai is beeing feed so much bs from the web and ai doesnt think and answer it guesses by the words you said its all guesses therefore if it has been fed 2 seperate things ''bread is poisonus bread isnt'' it will mix things up and say random shit which is currently happening and expanding

[naive sonnet]

i got past nosk in r2 for the first time

[dreamy girder]

Doesn’t mean it’s dying
You’re just saying it sucks

[copper spruce]

Which mushroom isnt poisonous

[dreamy girder]

You think people offering ai care

[spiral vault]

The non poisonous ones

[junior sapphire]

well done :)

[wicked kiln]

no it is dying cause it will have no use anymore

[spiral vault]

Not really true

[wicked kiln]

why would u wanna use an bot that tells you cats are classed under birds

[acoustic steppe]

This isnt an ai Debate this is hk discussion

[dreamy girder]

Seems like everyone I know uses it
They day “ai it”

[wicked kiln]

what?

[naive sonnet]

flukemarm is of course no problem
broken vessel and sheo shouldn't be a problem but nerves are to be taken into consideration

[junior sapphire]

ahh yes lemme hop over to the "ai stinks" discord server rq

[spiral vault]

This server

[dreamy girder]

Cause someone may look into that stuff
People think random stuff
We’re naturally curious
Besides it’s not like it’s gonna randomly tell you that unless you’re as dumb as a brick

Ai is just getting multiple sources and mashing them together

[wicked kiln]

it is gonna randomly tell you that tho thats the problem the more it grows the more missinformation it spits out and contradicts itself

[dreamy girder]

Which means there’s some crap made by actual people out there that is just being scooped up

[wicked kiln]

and thats the problem

[junior sapphire]

Yeah I don't even understand how stuff like vengefly king, gruz mother, soul warrior and flukemarm can even be considered bosses tbh

[wicked kiln]

the more sources the more bs

[spiral vault]

Bro thinks google ai is the only only ai

[naive sonnet]

broken vessel is down

sheo

[junior sapphire]

the more bs the more bs

[wicked kiln]

every chat ai works like that absically

[junior sapphire]

some stuff is actually accurate

[naive sonnet]

there's like a 30% chance this goes poorly

[acoustic steppe]

Sheo is easy

[spiral vault]

Chat ai is also not every ai

[dreamy girder]

True

[copper spruce]

I hate that word

[naive sonnet]

nerves may be a problem

[wicked kiln]

back then it was mostly every stuff now some stuff

[acoustic steppe]

Yes

[wicked kiln]

never said that

[copper spruce]

Why do I even go here

[dreamy girder]

I think it was worse then😭

[wicked kiln]

but ai in general generative ai

[wicked kiln]

it wasnt

[dreamy girder]

How so?

[wicked kiln]

if you asked a simple question u been getting simple answers

[junior sapphire]

oh yeah I swear you brought up ai

[wicked kiln]

there are many people agreeing that ai is just getting dumber

[dreamy girder]

Yeah that applies still
You can also ask it to simplify them further

[wicked kiln]

ask an question chat gpt in 10 mdiffrent chats it will probably mostly say diffrent stuff

[dreamy girder]

Yeah but that also doesn’t mean it’s “dying”

[wicked kiln]

its not about being simple

[spiral vault]

Ai isnt dying

[acoustic steppe]

I just gave my opinion crazyy 🤯

[wicked kiln]

dude im talm bout the generative ai

[dreamy girder]

Why?

[acoustic steppe]

Is that Daisy in ur pfp

[dreamy girder]

How come it can’t be simple

[spiral vault]

Yes

[wicked kiln]

its about being right

[naive sonnet]

i beat r2

[wicked kiln]

never said that????

[spiral vault]

No hit p2 gg

[junior sapphire]

we're having a debate bc u shared ur opinion and then you tell us to stop debating when u brought it up

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[dreamy girder]

You said it’s not about being simple
So that means you’re saying it’s about being complicated
Simple or complex
Right or wrong
You’re going all over the place

[rough plinth]

thats fire

[naive sonnet]

i'm not even gonna bother with 4 so really the best i can ask for is to have this image but with 3 down too

[dreamy girder]

And you’re claiming facts that don’t really have much to them

And things that can be proven to be straight up incorrect

[wicked kiln]

i said ai back then was simple and right

keyword right

its not about being simple liek i already said

[junior sapphire]

do you want 112% completion? I'm pretty sure p4 is a percent

[dreamy girder]

You said it was simple
But then said it wasn’t about that

[rough plinth]

at least you actually beat it

[dreamy girder]

Why not?

[acoustic steppe]

Did you beat all panteones??

[dreamy girder]

Whoops gotta go

See yall

[naive sonnet]

no this is hitless pantheons

[wicked kiln]

i said ai back then was simple and right nnot that ai is dying cause its not simple

[spiral vault]

Like ai just lies to you for fun now

[naive sonnet]

i've done the first two

[acoustic steppe]

👍

[wicked kiln]

you are twisting my words

[naive sonnet]

i have done them all each several times

[dreamy girder]

No im repeating what you said

[junior sapphire]

ohh mb

[wicked kiln]

dude ai is just a programm its just an stupid piece of technoligy thatn isnt optimized

[dreamy girder]

You’re trying to convince yourself that I am doing so and you believe it

[acoustic steppe]

How are you so good at playing??!

[wicked kiln]

but not once mentioned the part where i said right

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pinnochio-lies-lying-liar-nose-gif-4932260

[dreamy girder]

Okay but you never said why it’s not about being simple

[junior sapphire]

there are slight differences between "it can't be simple" and "it isn't about being simple"

[wicked kiln]

never said it cant be simple

[naive sonnet]

a worrying amount of persistence
plus if you practice the hard ones p5 isn't a particularly hard endeavor

just time consuming

[copper spruce]

You just practice and put self imposed restrictions

[vernal knot]

What yall arguing about

[dreamy girder]

I understand that
But I’m asking why it isn’t about that
They’ve been bringing up my messages for some reason

[junior sapphire]

ai

[vernal knot]

What abou AI

[dreamy girder]

Nothing
It’s just a dumb one sided argument

Idk where they’re going with this

[vernal knot]

That gives me nothing

[junior sapphire]

about it's good or not

[wicked kiln]

i said chat ai bots are dying cause they are being feed bs and just get pumped with hypocrite information and they say nah youre wrong

[vernal knot]

but regardless go to #off-topic or #hk-general

[dreamy girder]

True unfortunately

[dreamy girder]

True

[vernal knot]

I don't really care

So I'ma just leave

[dreamy girder]

Yeah no one really does

[junior sapphire]

alr bye

[dreamy girder]

Just avoid it if you don’t like it

That’s kinda all you can do

[copper spruce]

Sharp shadow

[dreamy girder]

I wish I used this more

[copper spruce]

No

[dreamy girder]

Why.

[junior sapphire]

no offense but if you don't care why are you still arguing abt it 🥀

[copper spruce]

No

[junior sapphire]

are you a bot or smth what is this yap

[wicked kiln]

lol

[dreamy girder]

Got nothing better to do
I’m not really trying to be right at all
I like to see how far people are willing to go til I get bored

[copper spruce]

I am a bot

[dreamy girder]

This one got boring

[acoustic steppe]

Fr

[junior sapphire]

so you're ragebaiting but you're the one getting mad

mission failed successfully ahh

[flint ore]

why can soul tyrant spawn orbs in your face on second phase

[dreamy girder]

I didn’t really say anything that shows I’m mad

[junior sapphire]

oh

[flint ore]

thats stupid as hell

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/quikjug-ishowspeed-gif-1496328861346971189

[dreamy girder]

Idk where you got that from

[junior sapphire]

this

sounds pretty salty to me

[dreamy girder]

Ah.
Idk

[acoustic steppe]

Lmao

[dreamy girder]

Does salty mean mad?

I’m just saying it was kinda pointless

[copper spruce]

No it's flavor

[dreamy girder]

And I don’t really care if it is or not

[junior sapphire]

means ur mad that u lost

[dreamy girder]

Not really

Why does it mean that

They were arguing
I just kept asking dumb questions

[junior sapphire]

idk lol it just kinda does

[dreamy girder]

How so

[junior sapphire]

oh ye it means ur bitter

[dreamy girder]

Okay.

Um

I guess idk

They didn’t really prove anything

[junior sapphire]

🤷‍♂️

[dreamy girder]

Buh

[wicked kiln]

neither did you the whole time

lel

[dreamy girder]

I never tried to prove anything

[wicked kiln]

then why tf was you arguing

[dreamy girder]

Like I said I was just throwing questions

[junior sapphire]

but why

oops

[wicked kiln]

looks like you are searching for excuses

[dreamy girder]

6

[wicked kiln]

jusrt me tho

[dreamy girder]

Nah just bored

[junior sapphire]

nah not just you it seems like that to me as well

[dreamy girder]

You people seem confused as heck

I’m gonna go rest now

[wicked kiln]

lol

[dreamy girder]

See yall

[wicked kiln]

good

[junior sapphire]

me 😭

[acoustic steppe]

What if you guys talk about Hollow Knight?

[wicked kiln]

hope not

[acoustic steppe]

Thank god

[dreamy girder]

Yeah sorry bout that

[junior sapphire]

goodbye

[dreamy girder]

Okay.

[junior sapphire]

how bout u shush

[dreamy girder]

Uh…

[wicked kiln]

enough shit talk

[dreamy girder]

True

[copper spruce]

Not enough shit talk
Where's dung defender

[acoustic steppe]

No

[dreamy girder]

Oh yeah I beat NK Grimm today

[junior sapphire]

oh same

[wicked kiln]

good job

[dreamy girder]

What’s with the skull and question

[acoustic steppe]

Real channels in City of Tears

Sorry my translator

[willow flame]

royal waterways

[wicked kiln]

its jut that yk

[dreamy girder]

Okeh

[acoustic steppe]

Yes I mean that

[wicked kiln]

you kinda popped in asking question not related to hk

so idk why you saying true

[copper spruce]

True

[dreamy girder]

True

[junior sapphire]

he wasn't asking where to actually find dung defender bruh 😭

[willow flame]

True

[naive pilot]

ik back

[dreamy girder]

I’m a dumbass

[naive pilot]

the goat

[acoustic steppe]

K

[dreamy girder]

I meant I beat him on radiant mode

Wasn’t too bad

[naive pilot]

tell me a character guys

[vernal knot]

uh

[wicked kiln]

True

[vernal knot]

Jiji

Jinn

[acoustic steppe]

Broken vessel

[vernal knot]

Jiji or Jinn

[junior sapphire]

oh not same 😅

[junior sapphire]

CORNIFER

[vernal knot]

Fluke Hermit

[naive pilot]

i got you!!

[wicked kiln]

GPZ

[vernal knot]

bro ignored me 😭

[dreamy girder]

Woah…

[naive pilot]

i also got you!!

[vernal knot]

You rude Book Guy

[acoustic steppe]

How pretty

[junior sapphire]

cornifer!!!

[naive pilot]

i dont have jinn 🥀

[vernal knot]

Jiji?

[dreamy girder]

So cool

Whar is this book

[vernal knot]

Que bom

[naive pilot]

neither

[junior sapphire]

my g!!

[naive pilot]

spanish book 🙂

[vernal knot]

Fluke Hermit?

[vernal knot]

This is the best answer we get

[dreamy girder]

Obv but Like

Title?

[vernal knot]

Book Guy Gatekeeps

😭

[acoustic steppe]

You speak spanish too??

[dreamy girder]

Nvm ill find it myself

[junior sapphire]

he's fr ignoring u lol

[dreamy girder]

!!!!

[vernal knot]

"The Hollow Book"

[acoustic steppe]

Que bonita información w

[vernal knot]

Amazing

[naive pilot]

ofc im spanish 😭

[vernal knot]

You're the only Spanish in this server wtih the book gng

[junior sapphire]

zote is so cute there

[flint ore]

💀

[vernal knot]

Look at sly.

[naive pilot]

ik gng

they are poors

[vernal knot]

Look at his fuckin' face

[vernal knot]

Where are you from

[naive pilot]

Spain

[vernal knot]

Oh right

We are indeed poor 😭

[naive pilot]

the Big zote!!!

[junior sapphire]

I don't see sly there am I blind

[naive pilot]

the Big sly!!

[vernal knot]

Yes

[acoustic steppe]

True 🥀

[junior sapphire]

OH HE'S SO TINYYY

[naive pilot]

he's cute

loot at the back 🔥

[junior sapphire]

OMGGG

[naive pilot]

GRIMM

[acoustic steppe]

Where did you buy the book, bro?

[junior sapphire]

grimm!!!

[naive pilot]

manga/book/comic store from my city, its also on the internet

[vernal knot]

Do you like One Piece

[naive pilot]

ofc

look

[wicked kiln]

Imma gts

Gn chat

[acoustic steppe]

I only have pirated stuff like Homer Simpson with deformed eyes

[naive pilot]

sabo carry

[vernal knot]

Good Night

[acoustic steppe]

Gn brochacho

[junior sapphire]

gn

[naive pilot]

thats not the book 🥀

[acoustic steppe]

No

[mild sorrel]

Iam speedkilling alot of these radiants now wth

[copper spruce]

No you aren't

[junior sapphire]

shush

[mild sorrel]

Well not actual speedkilling but yknow

Faster than what i remember

[copper spruce]

Sheo can't draw

[junior sapphire]

congrats 👍

[acoustic steppe]

Does someone likes earthbound

[junior sapphire]

shush

[copper spruce]

No

[vernal knot]

You're not wrong ngl

Sheo genuinely can not draw to save his life

[south nova]

it seems someone wants to take oblobbles spot as my least favorite boss in hk :)))

[vernal knot]

R5?

[south nova]

Regular p5

[naive sonnet]

got an r3 run to galien

[zinc delta]

i might go for 5 more radiances today and 5 more tomorrow

[vernal knot]

oh

[vernal knot]

Dawg Beat P4 first 😭

[zinc delta]

no

[south nova]

straight up sometimes the jellyfish wont spawn in a decent enough spot to one cycle the fucker

Its so rng heavy and it pisses me off

[vernal knot]

[south nova]

And then SOMETIMES uumuu decides to not take knockback from the dreamnail even though it literally always does every other time

[quasi forge]

You don't need to one cycle anyway

Dnail lets you get full soul easily

[south nova]

Yeah except this is what killed me

I dreamnailed it, expecting it to be pushed back a bit, and then it DIDNT

AND KEPT MOVING

AND THEN I DIED

losing to uumuu genuinely makes me angrier than anything else in the entire game

[naive pilot]

is this the real Chuck from bs?

[south nova]

Bc half the time it doesnt even feel like it was MY FAULT that i died, the game just decided to tell me to go fuck myself ig!

[quasi forge]

That's me

[south nova]

I need to take a break actually jesus christ

[zinc delta]

no p3, p4 or p5 once i beat 100 radiances

[quasi forge]

Oof no masters

[naive pilot]

sorry

i play alone in a potato phone

hard

[quasi forge]

I also play alone

Most times

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-25277476

[quasi forge]

But my phone is fine

[zinc delta]

about how fast i beat radiance if i'm at max soul

[quasi forge]

How did you unlock without p5

[zinc delta]

wdym?

[quasi forge]

You need to get to the end of p5 for absrad in hog no?

[zinc delta]

no just base

doing base

[quasi forge]

Then why is there a last phase 🤨

Orb one

[zinc delta]

huh

that's anyrad + it's a gif

[quasi forge]

Oh I thought that was your recording lmao

[zinc delta]

i couldn't do that

[quasi forge]

Yeah I'm a bit slow

[zinc delta]

already beat my 11th

[dry bone]

👍🏿

[zinc delta]

i'm either starting to get better at fighting radiance or she's just getting easier

idrk

[hollow sequoia]

Do you need to beet the pantheons for 112

[remote bear]

p1-4

yes

[flint ore]

[real otter]

yeah she does that apparently her nail cant strike walls

[flint ore]

lmao

her cloak fly ability was always a thing huh

she just went to that nailmaster for sauce

[real otter]

she went to the nailmaster in edge?

interesting

[flint ore]

i mean in silksong

mb

those are called nailmasters too right

red and blue women

[real otter]

idk i havent playede it

[flint ore]

ah mb

[mild sorrel]

Radiant watcher knights are still as miserable as ever

[copper spruce]

600 health

[real otter]

watcher knights are kinda easy they just flop over by my spells

I think I radianted them like 5th try

[flint ore]

yeah they're kinda ass

[mild sorrel]

They are but idk i can't keep up with spamming ddark everytime i get away to ensure i won't get rolled to the next life

[trail silo]

Easy????

[real otter]

I do this build if it helps

[lofty turret]

yall im mad at hollow knight in the room i died in my ghost got softlocked so i have to go around to get my ghost just to die and I LOST 900 GEO

[devout thorn]

only 900

[lofty turret]

BRO im a begginer ok

[devout thorn]

you don't go there

[real otter]

parkour up

[lofty turret]

like i just made a big hual at greenpath

[mild sorrel]

Up

[lofty turret]

i was exploring the parts i missed

[mild sorrel]

Did you get the vessel fragment from there

[devout thorn]

i think he doesn't have the ability yet

[lofty turret]

hold up ill show yall where it was

[mild sorrel]

How would he have ||dreamnail || but not || mantis claw ||

[inland pagoda]

it’s possible actually

you can do shade skip without claw

[mild sorrel]

Not for a first time player hell no

[devout thorn]

wdym???

[inland pagoda]

oh shit owl didn’t even see that

[mild sorrel]

Monomon is on his map

[mild sorrel]

Iss fine

[mild sorrel]

I never thought of spamming spells instead of nail on those guys due to their hp. Would've worked tho

[devout thorn]

dunno

[scarlet tusk]

what is this glitch

[devout thorn]

oh

he does

[mild sorrel]

uh
hornet fucking disappears

Ggs

[scarlet tusk]

ive beaten hornet for the king brand and shes stuck like that

[mild sorrel]

Did she go through the door or just disappear

[scarlet tusk]

no

shes in the ground

middle

[mild sorrel]

oh

[scarlet tusk]

next to me

[hollow sequoia]

What the fuck is godseeker mode

[lofty turret]

IT WAS HERE

[mild sorrel]

yeaaaaaaa you might have to do the fight again idk

[scarlet tusk]

oh

it fixed

[lofty turret]

bro why did they soft lock it

[scarlet tusk]

after 3 minutes

lol

[mild sorrel]

Oh ok

I remember my friend got a similar glitch

[orchid fable]

you spawn in godhome with all charms or smth

[lofty turret]

i had to go around just for me to die

[orchid fable]

i think

[devout thorn]

oh he does have claw

[mild sorrel]

However she went through the door and fucking died

[lofty turret]

scince i already died you cant hear ir

[scarlet tusk]

there u go

[mild sorrel]

Welp just get the vessel fragment and leave ig

It's fine it's just 900 geo you get that from selling crack

[devout thorn]

true

[mild sorrel]

9 masks no soul containers
Yep this is steel soul

[scarlet tusk]

whats the problem

😭

[mild sorrel]

Nothing it's just weird to see

[scarlet tusk]

only steel soul is fun ngl

[mild sorrel]

Kinda?
I play the game in steel soul mode all the time for no reason whatsoever

Not even for a challenge or anything i just do

For the love of the game ig

[scarlet tusk]

i only dont play steel soul for speedruns

[mild sorrel]

Valid

[scarlet tusk]

where i need to do some skips yk

[quick cave]

I love my wife hive queen vespa

[lofty turret]

yall how do you get super dash cause i just found out you need super dash to get around just so i could get my ghost i dont have super dash

[naive sonnet]

any tips for getting consistent at radiant galien

[real otter]

you just need mantis claw

[quick cave]

Crystal peak

[mild sorrel]

You don't

[naive sonnet]

i can do it with about 50% consistency

[lofty turret]

i have mantic claw

mantis

[real otter]

where exactly did you die

[quick cave]

Yeah listen to hornet and git gud

[naive sonnet]

and given i'm at least trying r3 that is a problem

i need better than 50% on most bosses in the pantheon for that

[real otter]

yall I think hollow knight is happening irl

brainrot kids are coming from radiance

:0

[mild sorrel]

Don't go after him on the corners idfk

What is there to say about galien

[tidal thorn]

yooooo i just got both speedrun achievments finished hk in 4 hours

now i need to finish steelsoul

[lofty turret]

so i lost 900 geo cause my ghost got soft locked where i havent goten and you need to manauly go around and cut the rope it was their i didnt even have that and i need super dash to go around this is where

[scarlet tusk]

900 is easy

but still annoying

depends in the point of the game

[tidal thorn]

if early game 900 is alot

[scarlet tusk]

i see u only have 6 mask shards

[lofty turret]

not for me its annoying i have a grinding method but like bro

[scarlet tusk]

yh

[lofty turret]

im early in the game this is my map

[scarlet tusk]

aint bad

is this ur first time?

[real otter]

how did you die here

[lofty turret]

yes

[fringe coral]

got to abs rad

[real otter]

search crystal peak for something called crystal dash and you can get to your shade

[fringe coral]

died

[lofty turret]

so i died to spike cause i fell and i couldent jump or dash and fell into the spike on one hp

[fringe coral]

but now its in hog i think

[real otter]

yeah

congrats

[scarlet tusk]

do u have desolate dive?

[lofty turret]

whats that

[copper spruce]

Ok

[twin raven]

Do I need all masks do 112%?

[real otter]

you can go up and around I believe

but it’s been forever since I did greenpath

[real otter]

yeah all 9

[copper spruce]

Whats greenpath

[lofty turret]

hears my load out

[real otter]

me

[twin raven]

Damn that sucks, I have 106% all vessel fragments, all charms, all upgrades on spells and vessel fragments ts sucks

Do I need to fight bosses on radiant for the 112%?

[lofty turret]

bruh im early

[real otter]

why does jt suck hp is nice

[real otter]

nah dw

[scarlet tusk]

happier

still 1

[fringe coral]

wish absrad didnt have a 3-5 business day intro

[twin raven]

I mean it sucks because I am missing 1 mask shard and I don’t wanna do the grey mourner quest cause it’s a pain in my ass

[real otter]

I think it’s 5-10

[lofty turret]

my load out