hk-discussion

[topaz dragon]

theres the fail

[rich pike]

XD

[worn hamlet]

rippies

[rich pike]

you prolly woulda killed them both if you had ddarked

[spiral vault]

Allat soul😭

[topaz dragon]

i didnt actually have it i dont thinkl

pretty sure i got it and came back

[rich pike]

oh

wowie

[topaz dragon]

i lowkey didnt use spells until godhome

bc nail cool

like they were js kinda there for me

[rich pike]

I didn't because I was lazy

[sudden ravine]

Bro was playing Minecraft in the background.

[rich stone]

Ddark is just almost always OP unless you above void or spikes

[topaz dragon]

yeah my friend in vc was locked

[topaz dragon]

true

[rich pike]

Ddark is nutty

[sudden ravine]

Idk why but I love spells.

[worn hamlet]

lol

[rich stone]

They are cool amd they are useful

[sudden ravine]

chefs kiss

[topaz dragon]

idk why, i can do p3 with like 2-3 bindings but i cant do p4

any tips

[sudden ravine]

Nah cuz I’m not there but like L.

[rich stone]

P3 binding with zote

[topaz dragon]

ye

[rich stone]

Which boss do you struggle with

[rich pike]

I could do p4ab before p3 with 2 bindings 😭😭

[topaz dragon]

like die to or js lost hp to

[rich stone]

Mainly die

[topaz dragon]

i always like lose hp to lost kin for no reason

[rich pike]

Best advice is ofc to train in hog

[topaz dragon]

atleast 2-3 hits

[rich stone]

It should be easy to heal of no eyes

[topaz dragon]

and i die alot to markot

[rich pike]

or

change charms. . .

[topaz dragon]

maybe

thats what im using rn

[rich stone]

Just get a few hits in each time heal during his shield spin and use spells for phace 2

[topaz dragon]

okay

[rich stone]

Replace sharp shadow with spell twister

[rich pike]

👀

uhhh

I mean

it could work

but

[ashen ginkgo]

Or steady body and a one notch of your choice

[rich pike]

I'd take sbody over sharpshadow all day

especially in p4

[topaz dragon]

i love sharp shadow bc iframes cool

[ivory escarp]

okay bro abs rad is so hard

tried ts for the first time

🥀

[rich stone]

It doesn't even increase Iframes

[ashen ginkgo]

You already have iframes

On the normal shade dash

And on ddark

[rich pike]

noob moment

[topaz dragon]

doest it just increase length of the dash?

[rich stone]

She is the final boss of P5 so she should be hard

[rich pike]

yeah

[topaz dragon]

oh

[ashen ginkgo]

And add a half nail damage hitbox

[rich stone]

Yea and cause you to deal like 1x nail damage which is pitiful

[ashen ginkgo]

0.5

Iirc

[worn hamlet]

finally on to the p4 bosses

[topaz dragon]

theres some attacks that i liked it bc i could dash through them thats why i used it

[worn hamlet]

that took forever

[rich pike]

waa???

[rich stone]

It is 1x nail damage just unaffected by strength

[dark tiger]

no its 1x

[ashen ginkgo]

damn

[topaz dragon]

should i try beating the bosses i strugle with in ascended a few times before doing p4 again

[rich pike]

go ahead

warning:

markoth

[ashen ginkgo]

kaboom

[rich pike]

you might spend more time on asc markoth than on p4

[ashen ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-explode-gif-15295996165959499721

[topaz dragon]

waait also

wait nvm i forogt what i was a to say

[topaz dragon]

wait fr

[rich pike]

yeah

it's stupid

[topaz dragon]

bruh

:c

[rich stone]

Acended Markoth does suck radient is way worse

[rich pike]

yeah

any dream boss without a floor is so buns

[zinc delta]

3 mask mantis lords

[rich pike]

@keen thorn hi

[rich stone]

Yea in general doing platforming while fighting a boss is hard

[rich pike]

sure

Ironically for absrad plats phase has always been the easiest

for me

[rich stone]

When it's used for like radience plats it's actually really fun

[zinc delta]

HOLY

3 mask mantis lords p2

[rich stone]

Other than slightly slower attacks it's the same as the ground phace on plats

[zinc delta]

marmu now

[worn hamlet]

locked in for markoth and survived with almost all masks

noice

gpz is free now

[rich stone]

Amazing

[rich stone]

GPZ is way more fun than markoth

[worn hamlet]

beat him

[rich pike]

umazing

[worn hamlet]

choked on fc

ugh

[zinc delta]

died to broken vessel

[rich pike]

https://tenor.com/view/in-shock-gif-17553158948252598097

[carmine lava]

rip

[zinc delta]

gotta radiant him for practice

[maiden echo]

WHOEVER TF IN HK 4 VC SAID THE V SAUCE INTRO WRONG YOU'RE ACTUALLY RAGEBAITING ME

[zinc delta]

what

[zealous skiff]

yet another reason for vc text chats

[carmine lava]

chomp my 04r hog is 3 hours long...

[spiral vault]

Hey Michael vsauce here

[carmine lava]

the fact that this still won't be the longest video i've uploaded is funny

[sudden ravine]

Guys what was the easiest boss for you? Not including minibosses, mine is either False Knight or Gruz Mother.

[topaz dragon]

radiant or base

[zinc delta]

idk tbh

[topaz dragon]

radiant mantis lord

[sudden ravine]

Nah base not hog.

[topaz dragon]

base probably gruz

[rich pike]

no fucking way dude

[carmine lava]

that's not my longest video

[spiral vault]

Mmc

[zinc delta]

either mmc, flukmarm or vengefly king

[rich pike]

ofc not 💀

[sudden ravine]

What’s mmc?

[ivory escarp]

im gonna do walk of slight inconvenience again because i cannot accept the fact that abs rad fight is outrageously difficult

[sudden ravine]

Guys what’s mmc?

[rich pike]

massive mossy

[sudden ravine]

Ohhhhh

Haven’t fought that yet.

[rich pike]

💀

one of like

[topaz dragon]

isnt it

like

p1

[rich pike]

the first 3 bosses

[sudden ravine]

…

[topaz dragon]

oh he meant in general

isnt that like

before hornet

[sudden ravine]

Just didn’t go there.

[zinc delta]

just 25 more entries to complete

most are prollly enemies

[halcyon latch]

Hwy yall im doing a steel soul run in hk

[sudden ravine]

Gl

[halcyon latch]

I just beat hornet as well

[rich pike]

🔥

[halcyon latch]

Thanks bro

[sudden ravine]

Where even is mmc?

[sudden ravine]

Np

[halcyon latch]

Mmc?? Wym

[sudden ravine]

Massive Moss Charger.

[halcyon latch]

Near entrance to queens barden

Garden*

[sudden ravine]

Mmk thanks.

[zinc delta]

how can i get more gruzzers?

[halcyon latch]

Np

[sudden ravine]

Erm actually it’s gardens. 🤓☝️

[topaz dragon]

nah

u havent unlocked it yet

queens barden bost POI imo

queens garden is diff

[devout zephyr]

mmc thanks

[halcyon latch]

Stfu

(Shut the freacky up)

[spiral vault]

St67u

[empty thunder]

does anyone know how to remove sound from videos?

[halcyon latch]

Well i just got to queens station

And nah

[spiral vault]

I turn my volume down but ik that's not what ur asking lol

[empty thunder]

yea editing the video

i recorded a p5ab clear but i dont want ppl hearing what i was saying on vc

[zinc delta]

i need some gruzzers

[fringe coral]

3 hours of my life ill never get back

[carmine lava]

gg

[topaz dragon]

how do i get/ use cosmetic mods?

[shy ruin]

I FUCKING HATE KNOCKBACK WHY DOES IT EXIST

HOW DO I REMOVE IT

[sudden ravine]

Steady Body..

[shy ruin]

DAMAGE KNOCKBACK

[sudden ravine]

Oh.. I dunno.. don’t get hit?

[shy ruin]

in the path of pain???

[sudden ravine]

Ohh..

[sudden ravine]

HE HAS MODS LOOK AT THE MASKS!!! Nah jk idc.

[topaz dragon]

how do i get cosmetic mods like that

[sudden ravine]

I dunno..

[fringe coral]

its not that hard actually

[shy ruin]

go to the modding channels we dont know

[fringe coral]

id suggest watching a youtube video tho

[storm surge]

[shy ruin]

is that ai

[fringe coral]

but once you have the mods for custom skins you just drag and drop files into the skins folder

[storm surge]

No clue

[fringe coral]

super easy

[storm surge]

[topaz dragon]

ive tried most of them have outdated links

[fringe coral]

and then you can also interchange the spell textures and whatnot

[topaz dragon]

and i play on steam idk how much that changes it

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gag-magic-wand-gif-11898335440404701981

[topaz dragon]

yeye ik

[storm surge]

[storm surge]

Amazing

[fringe coral]

@topaz dragon do you have lumafly

[topaz dragon]

@fringe coral would u be able to send me a video that woudl work for steam?

whats that

[fringe coral]

mod installer for hk

[topaz dragon]

i do not

[fringe coral]

look up lumafly install

you want these three mods

[topaz dragon]

https://themulhima.github.io/Lumafly/ this one right

[fringe coral]

yes

[empty thunder]

Hi

[tacit spear]

Hi ^_^

[topaz dragon]

ty

what to i do when i have that

[tacit spear]

They'll be instructions on the page hopefully

And a video link to watch

On how to traverse it ^_^

[fringe coral]

download skins from online and then in the bottom left of lumafly theres a setting to open your mods folder

click that, go to custom knight and then go to skins

then you just drag and drop the skin folders

[topaz dragon]

i dont see skins

[fringe coral]

make a folder called Skins

[topaz dragon]

oh

mbmb

[spiral vault]

It's under there

[half sedge]

Pop for a second time is easy I beat it in an hour no hiveblood no problem

[fringe coral]

should work

oh wait

open the game first

then close it

[topaz dragon]

okok

[ashen ginkgo]

kaboom

[fringe coral]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qKfOtOXpYormusD05I700P8d79E74R1bTb3MP4vum-E/edit?tab=t.0

[half sedge]

Honestly struggled more with white palace this playthrough

[tacit spear]

Sorry Pluto for interrupting your discussion and not helping it at all... -_-

[fringe coral]

heres a list of a bunch of skins

[topaz dragon]

idk why i read that as MLP

😭

[tacit spear]

Hi pitiful pie ^_^

[topaz dragon]

should i unzip the skins

before pitting it in

or

[fringe coral]

yes

[half sedge]

👋

[tacit spear]

Hi norbert long time no see ^_^

[fringe coral]

?

[tacit spear]

Cool ^_^

[tacit spear]

I was rude to message then earlier when you had control of the situation... -_-

[topaz dragon]

how do i turn it on

[fringe coral]

it wasnt

its a huge discord server

replies exist so you can talk to specific people

[topaz dragon]

ur chill no worries

[tacit spear]

Sorry about that... -_-

[shy ruin]

HOW DID I HIT THE STUPID PATH OF PAIN BUG AND IT HIT ME TOO?? THAT LITERALLY DOESNT MAKE SENSE

[topaz dragon]

you all good dw bout it, ty for trying to help

[half sedge]

What charms you got on?

[topaz dragon]

u most likely hit one of them and on ur way up u most likely hit a diff one

that happned to me a bunch

[tacit spear]

Thank you ^_^

[shy ruin]

THERES ONLY ONE??

[topaz dragon]

oh then js lock in

[tacit spear]

Good luck ^_^

[topaz dragon]

how do i use the skin once its in my files

[half sedge]

Do you get unbreakable charms for free on steel soul?

[tacit spear]

Wait are you in pop or just white palace?

[topaz dragon]

basically

[shy ruin]

pop

look at my previous messages

[tacit spear]

You never lose money ^_^

[fringe coral]

do you have a mods folder in your options

[tacit spear]

I saw just making sure ^_^

[fringe coral]

or a mods setting ig

[topaz dragon]

ye

[shy ruin]

techically

[topaz dragon]

oh i fouind it

it iddnt work tho

[shy ruin]

you are a breakable charm

[fringe coral]

you selected the skin

?

[fringe coral]

let me see what the folder looks like

[topaz dragon]

wait i think i might be dumn

[fringe coral]

some of them need you to move some files

[halcyon latch]

Yall just beat the mantis lords on steal soul with base nail base health and vengeful sprit

[half sedge]

Ik that you use them basically as unbreakables I just like the look of unbreakables more and didn't know if you got them for free if you upgrades them but thanks for the tip

[fringe coral]

this is what a skin folder should have

[half sedge]

I did it with all of that but base health

[topaz dragon]

it has those but like

[half sedge]

About to fight grimm on steal soul this gonna be easy ngl

[shy ruin]

!topic

what is the command

smh

[topaz dragon]

its in the folder of the folder

[shy ruin]

go do it in modding

[fringe coral]

yeah take it out

put it in the main folder

[shy ruin]

go do it in modding

[fringe coral]

what conversation are we interrupting

[topaz dragon]

wait so move all of them into it or

[fringe coral]

im simply helping someone out its discord its not that serious

[topaz dragon]

bc theres a few

they all have pngs inside

i lied only one does

[fringe coral]

they should all be in the main skin folder

[topaz dragon]

okay

[fringe coral]

not any sub folders inside

so just copy and paste

[topaz dragon]

okay oaky

[fringe coral]

then hit reload in the custom knight menu

[topaz dragon]

like this?

or do i move the pngs into the main skins folder itself

[half sedge]

Easy

[topaz dragon]

W

[fringe coral]

Custom knight->Skins

you put the folder with the skin textures inside the skins folder

[thorny hill]

You might want to move to #modding-discussion, and the file format is Custom Knight/Skins/<skin name>/ png files

[topaz dragon]

ohhh okay

[fringe coral]

i think we're almost done just troubleshooting

nobody else is talking rn we arent really disturbing anything

[shy ruin]

which was what i was aying this entire time

[fringe coral]

why only 105%

bro go do pantheons

[solar parrot]

just lost a 60h ss p5 112 mark save to the last hit of rad how is everyone's day going

[topaz dragon]

it worked

tysm pluto

[fringe coral]

this is heartbreaking im so sorry </3

[solar parrot]

also like
idk let ppl do whatever bits of game they like

[fringe coral]

np! glad i could help :)

if you want any skin suggestions i collected a bunch i really like i can dm them to you

[shy ruin]

wait if you die in pantheons you die forever?

[half sedge]

Nooooooo 😭

[solar parrot]

base rad

no, gh is dream and you can't die

rad is the only dream fight you can die to

[fringe coral]

oh deadass? i did not know that

[thorny hill]

radiance and White Palace are the only dream realms you can actually die in on steel soul

[solar parrot]

oh wp

i forgot

[shy ruin]

WHAT

[solar parrot]

'fight' still technically true ig but worth knowing

[fringe coral]

should i go attempt p5 now or try to radiant all bosses

im like

3 off

[topaz dragon]

radiant all bosses cool

do that first

[fringe coral]

nvm forgot i completly skipped nosk Because I Hate Him

[solar parrot]

i didn't bother radiant any before p5 but like, idk

depends on preference

[foggy sable]

what an odd assortment to have left

[fringe coral]

do NOT ask me how to beat nosk i have never not cheesed that mf

[half sedge]

Yeah those two things were not fun on my current steel soul playthrough I beat rad with 3 health and white palace with 2, somehow I did pop easily an now all i gotta worry about is messing up by accident (which is hard to do with fragile hart tbh)

[topaz dragon]

i think i have more than u

[fringe coral]

oh shit yeah i think you do

[solar parrot]

i was 6 health at the last platform of base rad

and lost the save

it is the saddest fucking thing

[topaz dragon]

base rad felt lowkey anticlimatic

it took me like 10 tries

[fringe coral]

do radiance 3.0

[topaz dragon]

im doing p4 first then p5

[thorny hill]

you can edit your save to get it back, or restore a backup

[topaz dragon]

then

maybe

[solar parrot]

ye ik

but like

eh

then why ss yknow

[half sedge]

I got a few raidient, like 10-12 accended and every boss besides p1 bosses at least on normal but I can't beat accended gruz mother 😭

[fringe coral]

literally whats the point of doing steel soul if you just cheat death

[half sedge]

P5 bosses*

[fringe coral]

the spikes are annoying it def took me a few more attempts than id like to admit. just dont be too greedy and spam spells tbh

abyss shreik kills quick

[half sedge]

Ik it's off topic but if you were about to get accended dream nail and you used dream gate 1800 times could you softlock yourself?

[solar parrot]

62/63 now and then i'll probably back to doing worse things in celeste

[solar parrot]

the single ones spent by gate are matched by single gains from killing enemies randomly

[real otter]

technically no because you randomly get dream essence from killing normal enemy’s but it would take forever

[solar parrot]

and if you've spent more on gate than gained by enemies then you gain them from enemies at a higher rate

[half sedge]

Oh alr

[real otter]

did this actually happen to you

this is depressing

[solar parrot]

that is me just now

[half sedge]

I don't think my device would survive if I did this

[real otter]

😭

[solar parrot]

this

[median saffron]

is it weird that i dont think that dung defender is that good of a boss

he has like 3 attacks..

[solar parrot]

that's fine

he's a fun guy

[thorny hill]

what happened to the I-Frames from falling into the void?

[real otter]

If only you had patience

[zealous skiff]

wtaf man thats so unlucky

[solar parrot]

that's what iiiiimmm saying

[solar parrot]

ya ofc lol

[zealous skiff]

idk theres a glitch where they just dont happen idk how it works but ive had it happen on absrad before

[solar parrot]

but the fight is like, eh

[half sedge]

NOOO I GOT LIFEBLOOD CORE BEFORE THE EGG BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS THE EGG

[median saffron]

just use evo shape of unn

[solar parrot]

you're on ss just get a rancid egg

you'll be fine

[terse moat]

Based

[solar parrot]

what are you spending that geo on
unbreakable charms?

[half sedge]

I thought it stopped you from getting 112?

[fringe coral]

no

[solar parrot]

no

charms, abilities, fights, pantheons
those sort of things are %

[fringe coral]

if 112% was locked behind a side path in a place you can only go once there would be riots in the streets

[real otter]

why is there no achievement for 112% steel soul

[solar parrot]

you can 112 with zote dead

[half sedge]

Also why do relics exist they're so useless they don't do nun

[solar parrot]

was ss before gh?

[median saffron]

hollow knight isnt as strict about percentages as other games

[fringe coral]

you sell them for geo

[median saffron]

what are relics

oh

sell them to that guy in city of tears for money

[real otter]

wdym relics? those things you find around? you sell them

[solar parrot]

you get lore from lemm and you get geo

[half sedge]

You can sell them...

I never knew that

[median saffron]

did you never find lemm???

[solar parrot]

what the fuck

[median saffron]

hes in city of tears near the memorial

[solar parrot]

mf wanted an arcane egg for the inventory slots

[half sedge]

Yeah doesn't he sell relics??

[solar parrot]

????

no

[real otter]

you sell relics TO him

[median saffron]

NO HE BUYS THEM

[solar parrot]

he buys them

fascinating

[median saffron]

THATS LIKE HIS FIRST LINE OF DIALOUGE MAN 😭

[solar parrot]

i hate reading

[half sedge]

Oh

[solar parrot]

why do the npcs keep talking

wtf

[fringe coral]

"wow these do nothing"

"ok cool"

was that seriously your thought process

[solar parrot]

it's chill
funny but like, yea

[half sedge]

Holy hell I got like 12k now

[solar parrot]

yeah

[median saffron]

i dont think people who ignore elderbug when they first come to dirtmouth deserve basic human rights

unless theyre speedrunning ofc

[solar parrot]

i can now see why your geo could have been an issue

but generally on ss it isn't

[solar parrot]

you don't need unbreakables, and you have extra money from eggs

[half sedge]

I just sold eggs and killed the big bug I doom and despair next to kings station

[solar parrot]

fascinating individual

[median saffron]

people think kingsoul is the worst charm when its actually just unbreakable greed

[half sedge]

How

[median saffron]

why spend 15k geo on a charm that gives you more money when you can just.. save ur money

[solar parrot]

its not 15

greed is the cheapest

[half sedge]

Yeah but kingsoul fills your soul? Greed doesn't??

[median saffron]

wdym

im confused

[half sedge]

You said "people think kingsoul is the worst charm when its actually just unbreakable greed"

[solar parrot]

it's like. 7 or smthn
valid-ish if you aren't on ss, go grimm fast, want geo from enemies and not arena, and completionist want all unbreakables

[solar parrot]

but yeah kingsoul has a . use

[median saffron]

yeah because imo unbreakable greed is worse

[static charm]

Unbreakable poor

[half sedge]

Oh nvm I'm slow I thought you were saying they did the same thing💔

[static charm]

unbreakable poverty

[median saffron]

unbreakable soul

[celest schooner]

is that v1 ultrakill

[static charm]

hiii

its me v1 ultrakill

[solar parrot]

but like
kingsoul for ss pop,,, sounds helpful

[static charm]

you need king soul for voidheatt

[median saffron]

path of pain gives you alot of soul statues anyway

and hiveblood

[celest schooner]

im surprised to find other ultrakill fans

[solar parrot]

hiveblood i zzz

cringe

[static charm]

ugh my right leg be cramping rn

wtf i do

[celest schooner]

break it

[half sedge]

Also why do people hate on zote when Bretta is right there

[solar parrot]

also notable zote can die for 112

[median saffron]

zote is the second best character in this game

[static charm]

no

its obviously husk warrior

[celest schooner]

#1 i think you meant to say

[static charm]

husk warrior best

smh

[median saffron]

quirrel

[solar parrot]

sibling

[nimble trench]

time to replay

[celest schooner]

path of pain aint that hard

[real otter]

is that baby thk

adorable

[solar parrot]

small creature

tiny

[static charm]

path of pain isnt required

right

[median saffron]

i hate hollowbretta the knight doesnt even have feelings that are strong enough to constitute a relationship

[nimble trench]

no

[solar parrot]

right

[kindred wagon]

ya

[real otter]

no but it gives LORE

[half sedge]

My zotes immortal i left this dude at vengefly in my steel soul playthrough, I go to colluseum for the first time, he's not there, I go back a few weeks later to do the second and THIS GUY IS JUST CHILLING IN HIS CAGE

[solar parrot]

literally just lore

[real otter]

and it’s fun

[fresh isle]

if u take hazard damage (void, spikes, buzzsaws thorns etc) while u have iframes from being hit you dont get iframes from the hazard damage

[solar parrot]

lmao tf

[nimble trench]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[static charm]

PoP isnt required for 112% right 😭

[median saffron]

i do know..

[nimble trench]

no

[median saffron]

im pretty sure its just for bragging rights

[real otter]

that ruined this mans play through

[static charm]

THANK GOD IT ISNT

[median saffron]

im still doing it

[celest schooner]

nah its just purely for lure

lore

[nimble trench]

only white palace main part for half of kingsoul

[fresh isle]

yeah that was really unlucky

[static charm]

by the way what does getting accepted by the abyss mean
heard someone say it relating to voidheart

[solar parrot]

correct
neither p5, mark, a bunch of journal entries, etc

[half sedge]

It's not but it's kinda relaxing on a second playthrough, just watch a video while flying through since most of it is just pattern based/or pogo

[median saffron]

who tf is mark

[static charm]

markoth

[solar parrot]

hunters

[static charm]

oh

MARKIPLIER IS THE HUNTER??

[median saffron]

market plier

[solar parrot]

waow

[median saffron]

markiplier is the roaring knight

[solar parrot]

[half sedge]

Hello everyone my name is markiplier!!, and today we're gonna give this small little void demon a boom!!

[fiery iron]

NO HE DI

[stable patio]

insane yt recommendation

[solar parrot]

oki

[solar parrot]

tof is

[real otter]

true

fact checked

[solar parrot]

real hallownest patriots

[static charm]

what

[dreamy girder]

trial of the fool

idk how that relates to pop

but i think thats what he means

[solar parrot]

ye
just following up on me listing some stuff that is/isn't. i had to look up if fool was

[median saffron]

cool detail: hornets eyes arent hollow but the knights eyes are hollow

[solar parrot]

cuz it feels like smthn that maybe wouldn't be

[dreamy girder]

this is js lighting bro

[half sedge]

Karl Marx is the knight, John silksong as hornet, and markiplier as the hunter

[median saffron]

alot of art with the knight has hollow eyes, but theres not one piece of art with hornet that has hollow eyes

it was intentional

[dreamy girder]

i suppose it does but yea it is necessary

[static charm]

skibidi hornet vs sigma knight

[dreamy girder]

i saw what u mean after i sent that, still think its js an artistic chocie though

[static charm]

epic tap water battle

[dreamy girder]

i genuinely want to die

[median saffron]

darn!!

grah

[real otter]

what did bro say

[dreamy girder]

slurs

[static charm]

Watch your language.

[solar parrot]

nah look at the vessel's top of eyes
there's proper depth there. that's going in
ive never seen that in a hornet post

[median saffron]

IT WASNT A SLUR JUOGHJRBKUFON

[dreamy girder]

ik, i understand now. as i said, i still think its js an artistic choice and doesnt rlly represent much

[celest schooner]

what is that

[real otter]

uhuh

[static charm]

Michael

[half sedge]

zote is the halfling from TABS, and quirell is Luigi

[median saffron]

it shows how the knight is hollow and possesed by the void but hornet actually has a soul!!

[celest schooner]

is michael chill

[solar parrot]

one of those things with analysis of art where you can find stuff in it if you want to, and that's not a bad thing
media analysis is fun

[dreamy girder]

nnno because the knight is canonically not hollow lmao

[kindred wagon]

tom holland confirmed to play the knight in live action hollow knight movie

[median saffron]

more hollow than hornet

[dreamy girder]

there isnt such thing as "more hollow" u js are hollow or u aint

[solar parrot]

not less hollow than hornet

[dreamy girder]

ts actually looks fire

[half sedge]

Nah bro its gonna be Karl Marx

[static charm]

Minecraft 1.21.11 Pre release 1

[celest schooner]

excuse me?

[median saffron]

not really? being hollow means without thoughts feelings wills or dreams and the knight sure as hell has alot less of those compared to hornet

[kindred wagon]

chris patt confirmed as hornet too

[static charm]

son 😭

[median saffron]

ice spice is the hollow knight

[dreamy girder]

being hollow isnt a spectrum, you either have no thoughts or you do, it doesnt matter how many

[kindred wagon]

yes

[half sedge]

Wise words of wisdom from whopper wooper topaz pfp guy

[dreamy girder]

hot

[celest schooner]

im not up to date with much stuff online anymore

[kindred wagon]

lol

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-kris-deltarune-deltarune-kris-chocolate-milk-deltarune-chocolate-milk-gif-9314253235063250718

[median saffron]

im quirrel

[celest schooner]

could you imagine what being a potato would be like

[dreamy girder]

no

[kindred wagon]

spamton is the radiance

[celest schooner]

oh alright

[median saffron]

LIGHT...

IT BURNS...

thats what the infected crossroads bugs say when you dreamnail them

[half sedge]

He does have a sun in his background

[dreamy girder]

and he's also controlled like a puppet like how radiance controls the infected

[median saffron]

and hes also white..

[dreamy girder]

1/145

[half sedge]

Spamton is the hollow knight theory and he's the raidence at the same time

[celest schooner]

what game is that

[dreamy girder]

deltarune

[real otter]

wouldn’t be surprised if wings sprouted

[dreamy girder]

i have a deltarune screenshot for everything

[real otter]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-the-radiance-radiance-gif-23416069

[kindred wagon]

i think matpat might be grimm

[dreamy girder]

because i screenshot my entire gameplay pretty much

i have over 750 deltarune screenshots

[median saffron]

spamton is the knight and the roaring knight and the hollow knight and the radiance and unn and the pale king and the gods of rain and thunder and sly

[real otter]

I wish your storage to a better place

[fringe coral]

would it be unwise of me to attempt p5 overcharmed

[median saffron]

yes

[real otter]

and me

[fringe coral]

actually stupic question absrad is 2 masks

[carmine lava]

no

[dreamy girder]

i have never been happier in my entire life

[dreamy girder]

absrad overcharmed is 4 masks

[median saffron]

absrad does 2 masks so if ur overcharmed and get hit by absrad you take 4 masks

[fringe coral]

i did almost everything radiant so i think i could do everything else but absrad is ehhhh

[fringe coral]

yeah thats what i meant

2 masks default 4 overcharmed

i just didnt word it properly

only question is shaman stone or mark of pride

[copper spruce]

I can't take it anymore

[fringe coral]

might have to go w shaman

[fiery iron]

And if you're doing absrad on ascended she will do 2 damage ×2 for it being ascended and ×2 for overcharmed making 8!

[fringe coral]

im not doing it in gh

doing p5

[foggy sable]

p5 overcharmed is very fun

[fringe coral]

oh wait do i do pantheons to unlock lifeblood cocoons.......

[median saffron]

why do all the secret bosses have speaking quirks

[fringe coral]

its like 12 binds to get it right

is it worth

[fiery iron]

Ok that's just ascended p5 minus the health at that point

[dreamy girder]

hammer of justice doesnt

[fringe coral]

what if i just locked in tho

just beat this no lifeblood

[median saffron]

does his laugh count

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-chapter-4-deltarune-gerson-gerson-gif-4985119470283743245

maybe

i have a perfect image for a perfect situation i already have in mind but im not sure if itll happen

[half sedge]

If one were to compare hollow knight to silksong, you must remind them that if 2 tall peaks exist but only on 1 mountain than without the smaller peaks work the larger would have nothing

[dreamy girder]

i feel like gerson could genuinely theoretically beat the radiance

he can clearly beat the titan

and id say the titan and the radiance are actually quite close in power

[half sedge]

Idk about that

[fiery iron]

Well maybe THE titan that YOU face

If I rephrase then it's THE titan just created that barely had any time to develop its true power

[dreamy girder]

so youre saying a fully powered titan would be stronger than radiance?

[fiery iron]

Probably

Least the radiance is more stoppable

Titan was only destroyed cause of the soul and the bs behind it

If it had developed then there'd have been no way to stop it without the soul

Very niche thing

[dreamy girder]

the fact that gerson can damage and nearly fully break the titan's shield by himself while it otherwise takes kris's soul tells us he is genuinely broken as fuck

[median saffron]

what if you launched a nuke at the titan

[dreamy girder]

and also his fight vs susie is already amongst the hardest in game and we know he is holding back (susie "defeating" him is genuinely just barely even grazing him)

[fiery iron]

Yeah but that's still a new titan and gerson still didn't deal enough damage to take it down without it regenerating

And I guess you could say gerson wasn't using full power or something but its still impressive it has that much health

[dreamy girder]

well yes but that just means the titan is really strong not that gerson is weak

which even further proves that gerson could likely beat radiance

[fiery iron]

Feel like people really overestimate what gerson did over the titan

[median saffron]

why wouldnt he be using his full power

[carmine lava]

grey did you see i finished 04r hog

[fiery iron]

Because I'll say one thing gerson joining that fight did absolutely nothing except giving the team hope to then give susie her idea

[median saffron]

i think the radiance would win tho

i feel like the light beams would get him

[solar parrot]

no
(there are benches you can swap off of it after like p1 lol)

[median saffron]

plus the whole you need the dreamnail thing

[fiery iron]

Well idk but it's still a point

[dreamy girder]

if we take his attacks in hammer of justice as canon abilities, he can literally teleport

[fiery iron]

And some people want any point!

[dreamy girder]

also we know he dodges really well given you literally hit him only once in the entire fight

and thats cause susie was smart enough to trick him

basically not a combat feat, just an intelligence feat

[median saffron]

so can the radiance and because the radiance is very fluffy so it could act as minor shock absorption

[fiery iron]

Overall I think gerson absolutely defeats the radiance

[dreamy girder]

fluffy like my boy ralsei

[dreamy girder]

IM OLD!

[nimble trench]

i eated it

[fiery iron]

Still think developed titans are far more powerful than absolute radiance tho

[dreamy girder]

we wont know until we see one (which we might not)

[median saffron]

also it VEEERYYY highly depends if gerson can reliably pogo

[foggy sable]

congrats!

[dreamy girder]

thats gameplay

[fiery iron]

Kinda want to but I'd understand why we wouldn't

[fiery iron]

Pogo ain't even required!

[dreamy girder]

if its genuinely as powerful as you think itd be, then it would be undefeatable, which would kinda fuck things up

[median saffron]

he could also become infected by the radiance.. but idk how the radiance even spreads

[fiery iron]

I mean yk gerson can just teleport anyway so yeah

[dreamy girder]

he is far too wise to be infected by radiance, radiance prays on weak minds

[fringe coral]

guys p5 is going so much better than my first attempt

[median saffron]

soul master was a pretty strong mind imo

[nimble trench]

gerson would easily beat the radiance no question

[fiery iron]

Gersons mind is far stronger than his

[dreamy girder]

he is amongst the strongest infected minds, but he was consumed by his tyranny for power and domination over the soul

[nimble trench]

soul master is a whole other case because he went insane

[dreamy girder]

gerson has no such tyrannical desires

[median saffron]

i mean i kinda forgot that menderbug was so fucking dedicated to fixing signs he just ignored the radiance and she couldnt do anything about it

[dreamy girder]

its crazy deltarune and hollow knight have a lot of parallels when you think about it, the first coming to mind being souls and vessels

[dreamy girder]

exactly lmao

[fiery iron]

New solution to beating the infection is just to have some insane fucking desire so strong that it blocks it out

[median saffron]

could the radiance infect a meth addict..

/genq

[nimble trench]

seeing fanart combining the two popping up has always been a treat

[dreamy girder]

probably??? if their mind was too far gone then no

we can see this with pale lurker

in the colosseum

pale lurker is so genuinely insane she cant be infected by radiance

because she is completely mad

[median saffron]

everyone in the colosseum cant be infected because theyre all insane

theyre close proximity to infecteds all the time but they arent

[dreamy girder]

actually most colosseum warriors are infected (infection comes out of them when you hit them)

[dreamy girder]

this could be right

we dont fully know for sure

[sudden comet]

Oh, bury my mother, pale and slight!
Bury my father with his eyes shut tight!
Bury my sisters two by two!
And then when you're done, let's bury me toooo!

[fiery iron]

I find it weird that something that thinks nothing is more prone to the infection than something that thinks a ton of things

[median saffron]

those are the warriors, i think the spectators dont actually go in the colloseum

[dreamy girder]

think about it like a glass of water
if its full already, you cant fit anything in it
if its empty, you can pour in whatever liquid you'd like

makes sense when you think about it like that

[dreamy girder]

oh yeah, the spectators arent infected

[median saffron]

do you think they raise the warriors to be well minded so the radiance can infect them..

hmm..

do they just have like 7 sane dudes raising the warriors

[dreamy girder]

the warriors arent really raised, its implied theyre bugs who willingly choose to fight in it like tiso

the source of their infection is unknown

[median saffron]

i thought they tiso was like kidnapped

but on second thought the knight just walks in sooo..

[nimble trench]

well to be a warrior wouldnt you have to already choose a violent path that the infection makes you go down regardless

[median saffron]

well he pays ofc

[nimble trench]

ig their desires already lined up with how the infections symptoms manifest

[dreamy girder]

truetrue

when lost for words, sending a random spamton dialogue will always be funny

[nimble trench]

True...

[median saffron]

how bad is the radiance infection

like

is it worse than the last of us infection

[nimble trench]

Probably a little worse than the common cold

[dreamy girder]

im not sure its comparable

theyre very different

last of us infection is this biological fungus shit while radiance infection is essentially almost fully psychological

[fiery iron]

An infection that spreads is avoidable but when an infection comes through from your fucking head that's when it gets wild

[median saffron]

the last of us infection is probably worse considering i think you basically become a spectator in your own mind while the fungus uses you as a vessel to kill everyone you know and love

and you just have to watch

[fiery iron]

Unless you take the guide book on avoiding the infection

[dreamy girder]

true

[median saffron]

i think my cat would survive the radiance because shes too stupid to be affected by it

[dreamy girder]

this actually works i think

to a certain extent

what matters is the mind's strength, not really its intelligence

[median saffron]

are the tiktiks infected?

[fiery iron]

Well then by that logic I wouldn't get the infection

I win

[dreamy girder]

yes

[median saffron]

i mean i wouldnt call a hollow mind a strong mind...

[fringe coral]

first time fighting winged nosk ever lmao

lets see how this goes

[fiery iron]

Why need a strong mind when there was never a mind

That's what the pale king thought at least

[dreamy girder]

which is exactly why its susceptible to the infection, look at the hollow knight itself. the reason the knight is immune to it is because it forges its own will

[fiery iron]

Clearly wrong

[median saffron]

like a strong mind is a mind so full the radiance cant fit and a hollow mind is so empty that it has nothing to infect

[dreamy girder]

a "hollow" mind like thk's is particularly weak to radiance, even if thk itself is strong

[dreamy girder]

this would be true

however a truly hollow mind doesnt exist

[fringe coral]

hi vengefly king.

[dreamy girder]

so doesnt really apply

[fiery iron]

In concept

Full mind is achievable so that's the best you can get

[dreamy girder]

unglasses your ralsei

[median saffron]

what if you got a vessel and just raised him in a completely soundproof lightless box and he was kept in a vegetative state and he was fed through tubes.. would it be truly hollow then.. 🤔

[dreamy girder]

uhh

[fiery iron]

If something has no mind then how can it be sentient in the first place

[median saffron]

people in a vegitative state still have a mind

[fiery iron]

Unless it's a machine but I'm pretty sure the hollow knight isn't mechanical

[median saffron]

its just that no info can come into it

[fiery iron]

There you go then!

[dreamy girder]

wellllllllll not really

people in a vegetative state are braindead

[fiery iron]

There's still SOMETHING there though

After all there cant truly be no mind

[nimble trench]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/lxLJJUHLnWdrr-RqW?invite=cr-MSwxODAsNDY4MDI3MDQ4&v=24 the hollow knight quit its own fight bro 💔

[median saffron]

the only way there can be no mind is if ur dead

[dreamy girder]

is there though? their body is alive but the mind clearly isnt

[fiery iron]

And void is alive

[dreamy girder]

people in a vegetative state are comatose

they can do literally nothing

theyre only considered "alive" because the heart still beats pretty much

[maiden echo]

Wait what are y'all talking about

[dreamy girder]

we talked about a lot of stuff

[maiden echo]

I meant currently

[dreamy girder]

this all started out with agreeing that gerson would defeat the radiance LMAO

[median saffron]

people in vegative states track things with their eye movements

they can still move their muscles too

[dreamy girder]

im pretty sure thats not true

[fiery iron]

They can blink

If they don't blink then damn but

[dreamy girder]

they usually dont

comatose does not equal vegetative

[dreamy girder]

vegetative means youre literally fully braindead

[fringe coral]

died to traitor lord are we deadass

do i kill myself now

[dreamy girder]

the highlighted part literally proves im right, the rest are just exceptions

[fringe coral]

losing to traitor lord

[dreamy girder]

MOST cannot think, those who can are rare exceptions

[dreamy girder]

what were u running

[median saffron]

so what if the vessel thats in a completely soundproof dark box being fed through tubes is one of those rare exceptions.. 🤔

[fiery iron]

Well then maybe the radiance can't infect them

[dreamy girder]

we cant know that

[dreamy girder]

ofc not, theres nothing to infect

[fringe coral]

quick slash, strength, shaman, steady body and grubsong

[dreamy girder]

no... what challenge r u running

[fringe coral]

beating p5

[dreamy girder]

oh lol

[median saffron]

piss 5

[dreamy girder]

tl death in p5 isnt that uncommon actually

[maiden echo]

But who's in a vegatative state

[dreamy girder]

the tip is to just not panic

[fringe coral]

not all of us are cracked some of us struggle w base game

[fiery iron]

Just an example

[dreamy girder]

me ocasionally

[maiden echo]

Ah

[median saffron]

theoretical vessel

[maiden echo]

Well this convos confusing

[maiden echo]

Thank you

[dreamy girder]

practice tl in hogs, do him at least ascended, when thats done just dont panic during p5. also go nail only and when u see him do the first shockwave unload all your shadesouls at him

fast asf kill

even faster with shaman

[dark tiger]

sunny

[fringe coral]

i have radiant </3

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-delta-rune-kris-deltarune-kris-kris-dreemurr-gif-16324163691646139049

[dreamy girder]

then dont panic

[fringe coral]

i think its cuz im not using mop rn

[dreamy girder]

thats literally skill issue if its that

[dark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/ralsei-deltarune-gif-2528763519616581625

[median saffron]

my tip is to practice bosses you struggle with, heal whenever you can and dont let the nerves get to you

[dreamy girder]

run what youre running

just play good

[fiery iron]

Was the hollow knight NOT in a vegetative state inside the black egg or is that because the radiance was already in there

[dreamy girder]

mop isnt a free win charm

[fringe coral]

its skill issue regardless

[dreamy girder]

you cant depend on it like that

[maiden echo]

The hollow knight has a mind to think

[fringe coral]

"i died to this boss"

"have you tried getting better"

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-krusie-kris-kris-dreemurr-susie-gif-12900678059574368642

[fiery iron]

Well that's a lie because he does and it's why the infection is there

[median saffron]

you can use longnail as a mop subsitute

[dreamy girder]

longnail is ass

waste of notches

[maiden echo]

So it's not a lie...?

[dreamy girder]

dont

[maiden echo]

Anyway correct

That's what the game literally tells us 😭

[median saffron]

i used it for grimm and it worked

[fringe coral]

steady body gives me more value tbh

[dark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-4-chapter-4-kris-susie-gif-10387387796055143900

[dreamy girder]

you can use it and it can work, doesnt mean its good value

[fiery iron]

If the hollow knight were hollow the pale king would've been right and he would've successfully sealed away the radiance but no!!

Because he's an idiot!!

[maiden echo]

Ah yes

Hollow Knight lore

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-chapter-4-deltarune-gerson-gerson-gif-4985119470283743245

[fiery iron]

Oh wait

[dark tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/gerson-old-man-gerson-hammer-of-justice-roaring-knight-the-roaring-knight-gif-15019942669921344454

[median saffron]

also longnail is bad?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?

[fiery iron]

I read what you said as the hollow knight has NO mind to think

Mb

Lol

[median saffron]

i dont use it often but still

[maiden echo]

All good

[fringe coral]

isnt longnail like a 14% increase

[dreamy girder]

it is an infinitely inferior mop that wastes 2 notches

[dreamy girder]

exactly, its barely even noticeable

[maiden echo]

But I'm saying they're not in a vegatative state they can clearly think and act for themselves

[median saffron]

you can use it as a subsitute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[dreamy girder]

yes, that wasnt really the discussion

[median saffron]

im not saying its better

[maiden echo]

Ah I see

[dreamy girder]

it is such an useless substitute its nearly the same as not having it

[fiery iron]

It's what I asked tho

[dreamy girder]

the question was made by carlos

and that was not what he was asking

so no

its not what you asked

lmao

carlos asked if a theoretical vessel raised in a completely vegetative state could seal the radiance

that was how the whole discussion started

[fiery iron]

No no I asked if the hollow knight was in a vegetative state and if he was how'd the radiance get in

[dreamy girder]

oh

then no

he is not in a vegetative state

[median saffron]

if he was in a vegetative state he wouldnt have to be chained

[fiery iron]

Eh thought he'd become it after being chained for so long to then forget that he constantly screams outside his egg anyway

[quick cave]

I really love my wife

[dark tiger]

krannon

[dreamy girder]

huh

[median saffron]

you walk into the black egg and its just the hollow knight on a hospital bed with an iv in his arm 😭

[copper spruce]

I hate this professor so much

[quick cave]

Oh and my husband

[dreamy girder]

is kris cannon

[dark tiger]

yes

[nimble trench]

kris will be cannon in the upcoming silksong dlc releasing in 2030

get excited...

[fiery iron]

Kris will be the leader of the Silk Song

[median saffron]

you could put the knight in an image from the amazing world of gumball and i dont think a gumball fan would even notice lowk

[nimble trench]

hornet: holy shaw! kris! youre cannon to silksong now?
kris:
husk dandy: hi im husk dandy

[dreamy girder]

Eat Moss

[spiral vault]

Husk dandy would say that

[fiery iron]

What if the entirety of hollow knight takes place on that patch of moss

That would be a whole new deltarune

[nimble trench]

thats greenpath

[median saffron]

rebuild my kids!!!

[nimble trench]

Dude they added tenna too no way

[fiery iron]

Tenna appears in the silk musical

[spiral vault]

The part in hk where grimm broke down because all he wanted to do was be watched by the family was so emotional

[dreamy girder]

what part of greenpath did kris eat

[nimble trench]

man on the internet silksong tenna musical is coming out

[dreamy girder]

and then he got fucking cleaved by papyrus

i mean

[nimble trench]

lake of unn... it was so sad

[dreamy girder]

the roaring knight

or whatever

[nimble trench]

this is why godseeker cant attune unn to godhome... because Krisp Deltarune eated her

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-kris-susie-papyrus-roaring-knight-gif-15252966449771224021

[nimble trench]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-kris-kris-moss-monday-moss-gif-17401795370344355091

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-brainrot-chapter-4-kris-susie-gif-15966662288268586261

[fiery iron]

Kris in p5 fighting the 42 different bosses of moss

[spiral vault]

Woah papyrus is getting bold

[median saffron]

if your room became a dark world who would be the final boss

[dreamy girder]

probably this one lamp i have not turned on in ages

i think it'd be pretty mad

[median saffron]

i think the boss for my dark world would be my wither skeleton figure

and my steve figure would help

[real otter]

my tv it’s sick of me watching it 24/7

[dreamy girder]

i should buy a ralsei plushie so when my room becomes a dark world i can literally have ralsei in it

[dreamy girder]

tenna if he was evil:

[fiery iron]

Here comes annet

[dreamy girder]

"I JUST WANT TO BE SHUT DOWN"

[median saffron]

either its that or my cat toy because it would be sick of it being bit by my cat all the time

[nimble trench]

https://tenor.com/view/retep-family-guy-peter-griffin-petep-retep-family-guy-gif-274190631576872315

[fiery iron]

Just wait until Tenna meets Annet

[spiral vault]

Peter

[median saffron]

thats retep

explodes you with my mind

[real otter]

IS THAT PETERS EVIL TWIN RETEP????

[spiral vault]

Woah! Not cool man

[fiery iron]

He's happy again after being watched by noskin it 24/7

[real otter]

@spiral vault

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/head-explode-mind-blown-gif-11038567854390045170

[median saffron]

i would let mike rebuild tennas kids with me

[real otter]

it likes me watching it all the time?

[dreamy girder]

????????????

[fiery iron]

Then eventually gets tired of it and turns into Annet 2.0

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[nimble trench]

Ummm ok. Boofly

[fiery iron]

No no Annet and Tenna switched places sry

You're now watching on a clunky thick tv

[median saffron]

i really love you boofly

[median saffron]

i feel like booflys would be used as a form of transportation

[spiral vault]

The microphone

[fiery iron]

The Mike was the friends we made along the way guys!!

[spiral vault]

Kris getting out aura farmed

[nimble trench]

instead of horseback riding they have boofly riding in hallownest