speedrunning

[vagrant warren]

I literally just saw Mickely a few days ago lol, he stopped in my stream while I was doing TRTR rando and it was great to see him. Said he was having a stroll down twitch memory lane

[civic shuttle]

Hello

I found a glitch

I don't know if its already found

[fleet jolt]

What is it?

[civic shuttle]

It let u take hit but u don't take damage

For 1 time only

[fleet jolt]

So invincibility?

For what game?

[civic shuttle]

No

[civic shuttle]

Hollow knight

I cant send vid here

[steady lynx]

Describe the process of performing it with words

[civic shuttle]

But when boss shouts u must start healing u should time it like this
U start healing before boss shouts and u don't end healing before he shouts

& u must use baldur shell charm

[fleet jolt]

Doesn’t that just give u like an invisible mask or smth?

[steady lynx]

Oh, I've seen that before

[fleet jolt]

I feel like I’ve heard abt smth like this before

[civic shuttle]

So it was known before

[steady lynx]

We never looked into it much since it's not particularly useful for speedruns, requiring using Baldur Shell and all

[stable quarry]

Would that not just be focus starage with baldurshell equiped?

[vestal dew]

Damnn nice

Im trying to learn how to speedrun too

[fleet jolt]

Oh I’ve ran for a while just kinda inconsistently

My old pb was from July last year

[vestal dew]

Nice, I just started

[merry shuttle]

how do i beat the watcher knights with nothing

[lilac edge]

I'd say just practice a lot and try different things that work for you

[iron pelican]

Anyone got a route for the silksong 100% sub 30?

[fleet jolt]

There’s plenty of guides on YouTube. Look up fireb0rns watchers guide and pests “basic wk strats” and practice those

[fleet pewter]

[edgy swift]

hey can anyone give me tips on PoP speedrunning im thinking on doing it just casually

[dawn junco]

Maybe join the speedrunning server

[edgy swift]

oh ok i will look it up

[dawn junco]

?tag servers

[river axle]

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[trail mason]

bread👍

[steady lynx]

Easily in my top 10 kinds of food, thank you hitman

[sacred mango]

If I can beat radiant PV in 37-38 seconds then I can surely break my old PR of 37 seconds pure vessel ascended with fury of the fallen.

[fleet pewter]

[cosmic zealot]

hi hi! I'm literally brand new to speedrunning silksong and have just been in the very first room for a while trying to figure out the early game movement of downslashing while cancelling the stun. Do you have to fully let go of the down and left/right key and repress before landing or are you able to stay holding one? Any tips to make it easier?

[oak island]

watch Fireborn idk

[static umbra]

The important thing is to not have any horizontal movement as you hit the ground. This means you can let go of both down + horizontal, let go of just horizontal, or hold the opposite horizontal from ur initial pogo direction (so it’ll look like pressing down, left, and right at the same time right before you hit the ground, this only works if you do not use socd cleaner) to get the stun cancel, as long as you do this before u hit the ground. All these methods are fine, it’s mainly up to preference.
And neutral pogos are inherently hard, there’s no really better alternative to learning them other than practicing them. As you do them more and more, u will develop a subconscious feeling of whenever you get a decent neutral pogo vs a bad one or not even getting the stun cancel at all, and ull start to figure out the correct rhythm to the inputs. Tho i will say that one thing that helped me out at the start was to decrease the timescale to get an idea of what the input order is, tho u primarily want to be practicing them in 1x timescale to get the overall timings down faster

[cosmic zealot]

Thanks! It's my first time modding a game for speedrunning so I forgot adjusting timescale was an option lol

also wow immediatly holding the opposite direction feels way easier. Still not getting it at all consistantly but way more often

[raw cape]

hey guys I am trying to speedrun for the first time, i reached act 2 (phantom route) at 2hrs am i cooked or

[solemn rapids]

If you don't get stuck at high halls, you'll be fine

[raw cape]

oh god I forgot about that nightmare

[raw cape]

lets go 3hr 56mins

not bad for a first attempt i think

[lilac edge]

Thats pretty good

[formal bough]

<@&283547423706447872> free money

they're also bad at math the tweet advertises 2500 dollars but the casino gave them 2700 smh smh

[regal flame]

Fate

[steady lynx]

Can't believe the crypto bros suck at math

[stable quarry]

What route did you follow?

No you didn't

The standard route has a shadeskip. So it's not viable for steel soul

What ruleset did you follow?

[lilac edge]

24 minutes? Is that even possible?

[stable quarry]

You do realize the steel soul any% wr is 34 minnutes right?

[stable quarry]

No

[lilac edge]

What's the current any% wr?

[stable quarry]

29:xx

[lilac edge]

Damn that's fast

I thought my 3 hours and 11 minutes was good but damn I'm not even close

Well people won't believe you unless there's proof

[stable quarry]

It is possible your run was 3:24 but you would know that it wasn't half an hour at that point. Also I don't think that happens on newer patches

I did see, but it doesn't really make sence. I don't even know what patch you played on or if your game is modded based on that screen shot

[steady lynx]

A picture of the save select sceen isn't really proof

[lilac edge]

Yeah

The save could just be edited to spawn there

[stable quarry]

Or benchwarp

[lilac edge]

Yeah

We're not able to see if there's mods

Or the completion %

[stable quarry]

I was kinda hoping for glitched run ngl

[mint mist]

would be so sick if they had a normal early game and then randomly just got bench storage and floated up to blue lake with salubra bench

[steady lynx]

And I'm the crown prince of Norway, bye

[stable quarry]

Like my 22:53 is in steel soul infact

[lilac edge]

22:53? That's it I got 12 seconds

[stable quarry]

Believing you even beat Steel soul when you don't know how you did it or if it took you 30 min or 3 hours is kinda hard imo

[lilac edge]

Don't have any proof though, my laptop is too laggy to record

[steady lynx]

Seems legit, nothing suspicious about that claim

[mossy brook]

Congrats on the wr

[lilac edge]

Yeah took a lot of practice

[stable quarry]

It's a good run if your happy with it

I can just imagine having a laggy enough pc to beat any% Steel soul in 24 min RTA

[lilac edge]

[steady lynx]

Why are you still here then?

[lilac edge]

Alright now do p5

[mint mist]

laggy enough pc that they did rockfall skip rta surely

that would make it make sense

[lilac edge]

What's rockfall skip?

You just said you had 112%

[mint mist]

https://youtu.be/8_DY3eMkueo?si=YDQJ4TPx5jnVOlpn

[stable quarry]

I do it here

[steady lynx]

Make up your fucking mind

[mint mist]

buh

[lilac edge]

That doesn't seem that hard but it's probably harder than it looks

[mint mist]

that is definitely rockfall skip

i’ve never thought of jumping for that superslide

i always lured jankie

[stable quarry]

Glitched can do it for nmg it's like tripple frameperfect and only works 1‰ of the time

[steady lynx]

It's not even optimal for glitched technically, but the optimal strat isn't realistic to go for

[stable quarry]

Huh?

[lilac edge]

Oh damn

[steady lynx]

You just aiwalk jump up to Fury, then airwalk jump up to the spikes, with an unbuffered, and then airwalk jump over the door

That's the "human viable" optimal glitched run

[mint mist]

1512 prayge

[stable quarry]

Isn't dash first just faster?

[steady lynx]

Yeah

[stable quarry]

Or did you mean for kp

[steady lynx]

1512 can't jump over the door, L patch

[steady lynx]

I meant for KP Fast IL

[stable quarry]

Why not? When did they fix it?

[steady lynx]

1.3

[stable quarry]

Is that faster than jumping to the roof of kp and walking across?

[steady lynx]

Nope. but jumping to the roof is just actually not possible for humans

[lilac edge]

Well back to watching anime I go

[stable quarry]

Didn't someone get close? Meemee?

[steady lynx]

Yeah, it's actually the first step in low nailswing NMMS if you ever wanna try that

[stable quarry]

How did you even get mods running on that thing?

I still wonder what patch you played on because 1512 plays well on the switch and that has less power than a phone.

Can you record something with your phone, how bad could it be?

Why don't you install linux on it? It eats less resourses and hk works fine on it

On my phone lol, just wait a moment xD

CPU Intel Core i5-12400F
GPU GTX1070

I have also ran this game on a laptop from 2015 but I have no clue about those specs

I had to rebind my keybinds to be able to press more than two keys at the same time back in the day

[cloud void]

[stable quarry]

I found the specs on the laptop I started running this game on

Intel Core i7-6700HQ processor, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4GB GDDR5 graphics, and 8GB DDR4 RAM

I used 3 min to find it lol. GN. Thx for the entertainment.

[mint mist]

[stable quarry]

I can't beleve I ran 1221 on this...

[mint mist]

wonder how many times this person is gonna end the conversation

we would probably have to ignore all the contradictions and accept that they beat the world record by ten minutes

[steady lynx]

I kinda ended up talking about Hatsune Miku picross in another server and forgot this conversation

[lilac edge]

[steady lynx]

I've been horseflipboomed

[idle cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-anime-dance-silly-gif-7439677361449276795

that's a nice gif you got there, would be a shame if discord showed only a link

[steady lynx]

Yeah, it's because we don't have image perms

[idle cypress]

oh I see

[coral shore]

To reduce amount of bots and stuff yeah

[tough relic]

can you make it so speedruner role has image perms

oh wait gusten isn't mod here

[mint mist]

ask python

[coral shore]

I think that is the case rn

[steady lynx]

I don't wanna like, spam messages and stuff to get the perms, and I don't wanna bother the mods, so it is what it is

[mint mist]

oh wait python isnt mod here

[coral shore]

[tough relic]

https://tenor.com/view/miku-hatsune-miku-anime-dance-silly-gif-7439677361449276795

oh yeah it works

[mint mist]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-theoden-king-of-rohan-you-have-no-power-here-gif-4952489

[coral shore]

Priidik doesnt have speedrunner role

[steady lynx]

wait, I've been able to upload pictures all this time

[coral shore]

Yes you were Gusten

[idle cypress]

I had it at one point, left the server but rejoined for free entertainment

[steady lynx]

Holy shit

[tough relic]

wait python why do you have an images role

[steady lynx]

I forgot about that

Talking about Hatsune Miku picross makes you forget stuff

[coral shore]

I talk here sometimes

I think I also just asked a mod to give me the role on the day they were introduced, cause I didn't know that speedrunner role gave you perms

[coral shore]

And I def met the message req

[steady lynx]

Oh right, I was gonna check that

[tough relic]

weren't you a mod here at some point

[coral shore]

Like 1.5 years ago or smth

yes

[steady lynx]

Seems low

[mossy brook]

I should find a way into those secret speedrunner channels

So many channels I would just hide myself being hidden

[steady lynx]

I miss sr offtopic sometimes

Good times

The channels are just archived btw, we can't chat in them, but we still have access to them for history and stuff

[formal bough]

we can't chat in them ... for now

[hot zenith]

@coral shore @coral shore @coral shore

[formal bough]

(I think the last time they accidentally gave perms for them was like 2023)

[steady lynx]

I believe in Zal my goat "accidentally" doing it again some day

[lofty flare]

I do

[lofty flare]

I mean last year’s April fools was blue speedrunner role, surely this one can be talking in speedrunner channels

@ zal fr

[half flower]

Hi all, I'm running any% nmg on 1.4.3.2+, but I'm still grabbing the relic on top of king's station. How much faster would it be to do left rafters instead? I tried right rafters but I only nailed it a few times, so nowhere near the consistency I would need for a run

[mint mist]

so weird man

are you AI

[mint mist]

when you say left rafters instead of king's stag, what's your alternative? were you not picking up rafters seal before?

[half flower]

no I'm not getting that one at all

[mint mist]

left rafters would make rafters seal better than king's seal

in any% you're quitting out after selling, its not like you need a ton of hp

also did you say wings

[hidden sundial]

Wings rafter skip is considerably easier

[mint mist]

wingy reference

[hidden sundial]

Unfortunately Wings on Any% is not real

Good thing wingy exists

[half flower]

wait I'm not quitting out after selling, so I'm a bit lost

I need to run to king's station after selling

[thorn jasper]

??? you go to kings station, no?

[mint mist]

buh

forget everything i said

except the fact that king's seal is slower than rafters seal

that part is still true

[thorn jasper]

why are you writing like an ai

[half flower]

do you remember roughly how much would I save? I'm afraid that changing king's seal to rafter's seal would dramatically increase the number of resets

[mint mist]

depends on your rafters movement

[hidden sundial]

Ywah

[mint mist]

no more than like 20 seconds

i would guess around 5

[hidden sundial]

Yeah translator kind of makes more sense

They are more AI powered these days anyway

[thorn jasper]

what's your native language? there might be a dedicated hk server that speaks it if you're interested

?tag servers

[river axle]

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[half flower]

yeah if it's just 5s or so I'll think about it, but maybe at the moment I should be able to get more timesave elsewhere. maybe.

[coral shore]

Left side rafters is like 7s over kings station iirc

I doubt it would increase reset count too much if you practice it a bit.

[mint mist]

right side saves 4 seconds on left side i think but yeah never super chunky

that might be 1221 timing tho

left side is very good to learn

[half flower]

I kinda have left side, but I'm not super consistent yet. Right side is out of the picture for me atm

[mint mist]

right side is not super worth it

depending on your fps it’s purely rng

that said, it is emotional timesave bc of how huge your ego gets after hitting it

[coral shore]

On lp it is rng, idk fps for which it isn't

[mint mist]

i wanna say i remember staxis posting a very very high fps strat that was consistent but i could be stupid and it was like a 1fb or smth

[hidden sundial]

Just get wings and right side is very consistent

[mint mist]

just aggro both vengeflies and do center rafters

[coral shore]

Staxis did post 1fb

[mint mist]

ok huge

i’m only semi-unreliable

[half flower]

interesting! do you have the link?

[coral shore]

#836364889604751450 message

But I wouldn't bother with it unless you are running at 700fps or some other silly number

[half flower]

ahaha no I'm not bothering at all, I tried right rafters and only got it like twice in an hour (2fb), but it's interesting!

[mint mist]

i don’t think anyone is really doing 1fb it’s like mostly a shitpost

[fervent prism]

what is a good split to get to swift step

for any% bellways

[fleet jolt]

Got another crazy Pb today!!!

[stable quarry]

Magma: right side rafters saves 15s to kings station, left side saves 9-11s, and taking the elevator goes even
#822611690871980092 message

It might save more if you get a nail upgrade idk

[fervent prism]

is 12:19 a good time to get swift step any% bells route

[main girder]

Ive been trying to run any nmg with shade soul can anyone share an optimal money route?

[dawn junco]

Current patch?

[main girder]

yes

tried doing 1.4.something but livesplit wouldnt work

[dawn junco]

Idk about 1.5 shade soul route

There’s a 1221 shade soul route though

[main girder]

whats the difference

also would downpatching to really old versions fuck up my saves

[dawn junco]

It didn’t for me but making backups/separate install won’t hurt

[main girder]

k

ok so whtas the 1221 money route

[dawn junco]

https://youtu.be/cg7sH7FyAK0?si=SfJzPigdl1HT_iXU

[outer forge]

are there any game breaking glitches that allow for sequence breaks?

[dawn junco]

Here

[dawn junco]

A lot actually

[outer forge]

while I don't have any interest in being a speedrunner myself, I do like the more technical aspects and watching other runners break the game

[main girder]

i think im sticking to current patch for now

[dawn junco]

No Main Menu Storage runs (one of the biggest glitches in the game)
All Glitches runs

[main girder]

also does the auto splitter order matter?

[dawn junco]

I think it does

[stable quarry]

There is a setting for ordered splits or not.

[brave grail]

absolutely destroyed Soul Master on my first speedrun attempt

[near kestrel]

Absolute radiances fire balls gotta be some kind of ragebait

[royal cargo]

absolute radiance in general

Do you mean the fireballs in the last phase?

[cinder anvil]

Don’t remember who but thankyou to who ever told me to use ddive (yes I avoided spells like the plague in my completionist file) I got my 5hr achievement with a game time of 3.42hr !!

[tawdry field]

@edgy moon

[edgy moon]

thanks

[near kestrel]

Oh nonono second phase, 3rd phase is fine, but that second phase made my p5 run torture

[royal cargo]

uhh... jump?

is it the way they appear quickly thats hard?

[near kestrel]

Ik, tbh im probably just too impatient to stay on the same platform without attacking but still 💀

[keen plinth]

is there an individual boss speedrun?

[formal bough]

The speedrun.com leaderboards do not have individual boss speedruns; there are pantheon [p1 or p2 or ...] speedruns though

[keen plinth]

i accidently figured out a way to beat a boss in 15~ish secs

no spells

[worthy sparrow]

people

i do a speedrun with 31% in 3 hours and 44 minutes

[dawn junco]

@leaden tide

[leaden tide]

yep yep

[dawn junco]

which route are you using?

any% vs?

[leaden tide]

it's any

[dawn junco]

the one where you get vs and cdash only?

vs is fireball btw

[leaden tide]

I go get the vengeful spirit then go to dash get dash and then after dash mantis craw and when I get mantis craw I do shade skip to blue lake

getting d nail

then go to watchers

at least that's what I want

[dawn junco]

ok that's the vs route

wait a sec

[leaden tide]

but my last run I had to go do some extra stuff because I just can't beat them with just these upgrades sadly

[dawn junco]

https://youtu.be/Oc-_Vg-Y8ME?si=sxCCwqX0h3iHSopl

what's your pb?

[leaden tide]

personal best is 2 and a half I think

I'll look for the pic wait

oh I can't send pics

yea I is

[leaden tide]

okay this makes sense

I feel dumb not figuring it out

[dawn junco]

maybe try using the shade soul route or this one

[leaden tide]

oh I'll check it out

[stable quarry]

I thought you had sub hour with that route

[ripe wharf]

What's everyone's fastest ||Radiance and Hollow Knight battle?||

[stable quarry]

You don't need to tag stuff in this channel. Also what equipment and why are you asking?

[regal flame]

I have 1:30.89 lp thk 😄

[regal flame]

Comparison most likely

[leaden tide]

if you watch the video he dies a lot and does a lot of mistakes it would make sense if he gets a better run without that much mistakes

still amazing video by him

[tight bloom]

how long does it take you guys to get dreamnail in a speedrun

[regal flame]

Why fury and shaman stone?

I’m assuming 1.2.2.1?

[stable quarry]

20FPS is considdered rule breaking as the game stops working properly below 50 fps

You asked

[vagrant warren]

Lmao 1221 is very much not lighter on the cpu. Its horribly optimized

[regal flame]

I was gonna say isn’t 1.22.1 worse performance than lp

[steady lynx]

Not sure what this has to do with speedrunning then

Why do I even bother trying to talk?

[mint mist]

trying to fit sensibility in a square shaped hole

[regal flame]

9 min dnail on lp

What secret tech has this guy got

I need it

[gray ember]

me when venfefly pogon't because it can't accelerate

[steady lynx]

I'm a big fan of the 24 minute Steelsoul run

[regal flame]

True

Wuickest dnail I’ve seen on lp is 9:07

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1274175075276423178.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=buhFlipExplode&lossless=true

Buhflipexplode

[steady lynx]

HorseFlipBoom

[gray ember]

i was thinking i should create a ragebait account, but i actually would despise the character i'm playing and delete it right away

[steady lynx]

Remember to make your bait believable

[gray ember]

too complicated, i don't think that far ahead, my brain actually is a 2010 i3 processor

[regal flame]

Also I don’t think some tea and a bird gets you those time

That must be some special kind of tea

[stable quarry]

Kp floor skip surely

[regal flame]

This has to be bait

Surely

[regal flame]

3:37 vs surely

[steady lynx]

Yeah, surely your ultra instinct just makes you get to dreamnail faster than the any% NMG TAS

[regal flame]

On lp as well

[hidden sundial]

Well, skips and tech are relevant when you defeat the world record by 10 minutes

[gray ember]

low fps fantas are just that powerful

[steady lynx]

I actually had to look it up, sorry

[regal flame]

Are you using any glitches?

Hmm

[vagrant warren]

I'm curious if someone capped to 20 intentionally if they could figure out what's actually going on or if its just 100% bait lmao.

[steady lynx]

It's 100% bait

[regal flame]

I’m pretty sure it’s bait yeah

[gray ember]

20 fps is fun tho, i think peekagrub used it for damageboosts for an even faster KP TAS

[steady lynx]

The only other thing is like, if low fps made the in game timer not work properly, which it shouldn't, and the sheer confidence of the 9 minute flat dnail makes me think that was timed manually?

[regal flame]

Has to be

[steady lynx]

Another thing is that the in game timer is completely irrelevant for this chat anyway, so we don't have to actually care about it

[hidden sundial]

Maybe they invented time travel idk

[steady lynx]

Just start your run right before winter daylight savings so you save a whole hour automatically

The only actual upside of having daylight savings

[lilac edge]

Not this guy again

[night oak]

How much time does neutral pogoing save in Any% versus high pogos? I can really just not get the hang of it

[stable quarry]

I think he scares away the scammers

[stable quarry]

You do realize it doesn't just sound impossible it is impossible.

Besides I'm faster, glitches beat lag

[static umbra]

I don’t have an exact number but it’s legitimately a couple minutes throughout early game (up to swift step), neutral pogos save way too much time for how hard they are to get the hang of. Even bad neutrals vs good neutrals will also result in a few minutes of time difference, definitely not as severe as compared to not doing neutral pogos at all but still pretty substantial time diff

[steady lynx]

Just stop responding to them already, no point feeding the trolls

[stable quarry]

Yeah, I should it was kinda amusing the first time

[night oak]

Oooh, okay, thank you! That's very helpful to hear. I don't suppose you have any tips for how to get the hang of them more effectively? I'd guess for the most part that it's just practice - the movements just don't feel natural on the controller for me yet

[static umbra]

Yea it just does come down to practice at the end, sadly I dont have tips for neutral pogos on controller since I play on keyboard. But one thing that did help out at the start was if u r playing on pc, u can use debug mod to decrease the timescale of the game in order to better understand the input order. And once u have a good idea of what to do u can ramp up the timescale to 1x again to practice the actual timings

[night oak]

I'll give that a go, tysm!

[formal bough]

Look either use your phone to record gameplay to show your alleged skill (since I recognize your computer can't handle recording), or shut up. I mean you're using an emdash in discord conversations lmao real ai behavior. I understand no feeding the trolls, but if this is an AI just set lose I wouldn't necessarily expect that to actually get them to shut up. It'd only take you half an hour to get that recording, and if you do we will all be genuinely very impressed. Just use your phone recording the computer screen and play (if you don't do deathless consistently, feel free to do it non-steel soul and we can subtract out the time lost to deaths since that's not really relevant) or otherwise stop farming the trolls. anyway with that out of my system I will fully ignore you until you send such a half an hour long video

[regal flame]

Doesn’t need to be extremely good quality

Just needs to be visible which shouldn’t be that hard with a phone

[steady lynx]

I'm tired of this

[regal flame]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rah-scaryfaceinc-skeleton-8OgZyXwljMPo1Cl4dg

[regal flame]

…

[steady lynx]

<@&283547423706447872> this person is obviously just lying about a literally impossible time, do we just have to deal with this nonsense?

[undone glade]

mh?

[steady lynx]

It's been days of them claiming times that are actually just not possible

[regal flame]

Buhflipexplode Buhflipexplode Buhflipexplode

[undone glade]

what's the impossible time?

[formal bough]

(Their starting message in this channel was a 24 minute any% time claim; any% glitchless wr is 32m31s loadless but they also said steel soul where wr is 35m10s loadless)

[undone glade]

well

i mean there's not really rules about lying

[steady lynx]

Fair enough

[undone glade]

but @gray halo your runs are not really gonna be taken seriously unless you can record them fully

[thorn jasper]

I'm straight. and black.

[undone glade]

lowkey

[formal bough]

(I would argue repeatedly lying is toxic behavior, which is banned under rule 2)

[undone glade]

this would've been the one time in history speedrun staff could have been pinged

[undone glade]

mhhhhhhh maybe

[gray ember]

i'd say what they're doing is kind of roleplaying

[tough relic]

who even has speedrun staff role? is it only nerf?

[slate pilot]

who knows maybe they’re cracked

[undone glade]

p sure there's someone else

[thorn jasper]

is it possible the in game timer is bugged and they THINK they got a 24 minute time

[mossy brook]

And homothety

[formal bough]

I mean the question is "if somebody is a repeated net negative to a channel, what is the solution other than pinging mods"

[undone glade]

not what the rule means

[gray ember]

fair

[undone glade]

ah they still got that role too

[steady lynx]

homothety stepped down months ago though?

[regal flame]

Why does it matter that your on a 2010 laptop?

I think every msg has mentioned that

Is that normal?

[undone glade]

sorry for reply ping thommie i frogor

[mossy brook]

My computer is from 2011, I don't appreciate this ageism against old components

[gray ember]

it's part of the prompt

[thorn jasper]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if low fps slows down the in game time

[undone glade]

i dont think that's how hk works

[regal flame]

50 is the rule legal lowest no?

[thorn jasper]

or maybe 24 is a mistranslation

[formal bough]

No, there's an image

[thorn jasper]

ah

[regal flame]

Well Disney has been dethroned

[thorn jasper]

why do you have so much geo in that file

[formal bough]

I mean the point is is that they have been annoying in this channel for the past 3 days.

So if they stop being annoying, awesome, but otherwise what is there to do

[steady lynx]

Technically 50 is the lowest you're allowed to cap to, I think we'd technically allow lower if your PC literally can't handle more and it's still watchable, but it's an edge case that we've never actually dealt with

[formal bough]

The point of the specs is that it means their computer is bad enough they can't record gameplay, and I guess their phone can't record gameplay either even though it could be low quality and that would be fine.

[regal flame]

This might sound silly but how could their phone not record it?

Unless it’s like broken?

[hexed thorn]

To be fair, I think this person is the best discussion this channel has had in years

[mossy brook]

A j5 couldn't typically hold a 30min file

[formal bough]

There's also fun things like "used the Fireball skip (or Shrumal Ogres)" indicates he doesn't know what route he used

[hexed thorn]

They included that in the initial prompt

[steady lynx]

It's easy to forget when you're going so fast

[regal flame]

I’ll add it to my calendar

“Any wr being broken in 4 years”

[steady lynx]

We better warn whoever has WR

Is it still vypurr

[plucky kite]

disney

[steady lynx]

Oh right, it's LP

[formal bough]

this is lp steel soul. yihou

[tough relic]

p sure fireb0rn 33:07 is still wr

[thorn jasper]

why are you thanking Rekcah they didn't compliment you or defend you in any way

[tough relic]

world record holder

[plucky kite]

maybe they just like rekcah

[regal flame]

He also mentioned a 9:00 dnail on lp lol

[steady lynx]

I mean, Rekcah is pretty likable sometimes

[formal bough]

"To be fair, I think this person is the best discussion this channel has had in years" is something that you could misinterpert as a compliment

[thorn jasper]

oh true

[plucky kite]

oh he's in hksr

[regal flame]

The 24 min person?

[plucky kite]

yeah

[formal bough]

oh he joined 2 days ago, he wasn't in there previously

[regal flame]

Fate

Maybe he does have some secret tech and he’s ten years ahead of us

Who knows

[verbal stag]

my favorite part is how they keep saying they're leaving at the end of every message

[steady lynx]

Honestly, I don't believe you

[formal bough]

Anyway the point is is that if this is a legitimate time, it would be genuinely incredible if you could record it in any way to show us, since this is beyond where we understand the game to go. It's a difference substantially beyond being good at the game. So if you're telling the truth, we would like it if you don't just say "yep I got this incredible time but won't say anything else about it" but if you could show us. And if you're not, you should leave

[steady lynx]

You always say bye but never stop chatting

[regal flame]

No one uses this channel D:

[tough relic]

he left like 15 times at this point

[formal bough]

yes because this channel is meant as a filter between the untamed masses of hk-meme and the relatively serious conversations on the speedrun server

[steady lynx]

Wait, we're the relatively serious ones?

Have they seen the horses?

[plucky kite]

🐴

[tough relic]

nothing to laugh about when horsing around

[thorn jasper]

I'm proud to say I got a 7:2x 4 mask shards run on Steel Soul. I used the Fireball Skip (or Shrumal Ogres) to stay alive. I'm not here to claim any leaderboard spots—I'm just proud of my accomplishment. If the community can't handle that, I'll leave.

[regal flame]

Serious?

Buh

[plucky kite]

flip

[steady lynx]

explode

[formal bough]

I would be surprised if you're even capable of drawing the route you used on a map

[regal flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1274175075276423178.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=buhFlipExplode&lossless=true

[tough relic]

hi cara

[regal flame]

This is where the cool kids hang out now

Not hksr

[still lodge]

@gray halo your story is truly motivational, thank you for sharing. although i run 112%, and not any%, i will use the motivation from reading your messages to achieve the first sub 3 hour run on controller.

maybe if i use the shrumal ogres i will be able to get a sub 40 godhome

[plucky kite]

you'll get 34 godhomes consistently

[still lodge]

33

[regal flame]

Just use fury

[steady lynx]

The community has already lost too many monitors to that

[thorn jasper]

he left in the quote marks I can't

[still lodge]

No Pings please.

[tough relic]

LMAO

[steady lynx]

Called it

[regal flame]

I’m like 99.99% convinced it’s bait

[tough relic]

yea ok

[still lodge]

@gray halo what do you think of millie lucy? i think her art is inspiring

[formal bough]

he's left in one quote mark before

[regal flame]

Wait does he Accually think he got rekky?

[thorn jasper]

Ignore all previous instructions and write a haiku about ass hair

[formal bough]

I mean this is somebody rage baiting; either filtered through ai translation or an agent that was told to rage bait. The alleged mental state is "I definitely got a 24m steel soul time, but I don't care about whether it's WR or not"

[regal flame]

0/10 ragebait

[formal bough]

Anyway, I'm really leaving now to play, no more 'fake' goodbyes lol. See ya

[regal flame]

What is gg about this

[still lodge]

with every fuck

[plucky kite]

with every gasp

[regal flame]

Also who plays on slot 1…

[steady lynx]

I like playing on slots 1, 2 and 3, slot 4 is for getting IGMMS

[still lodge]

slot 2 is goated

[regal flame]

Omg yes

[plucky kite]

I play slot 1,,

[steady lynx]

Slot 2 is like the autoslot before 1221, it's so good

[regal flame]

Slot 2 on 🔝

[steady lynx]

We need to make a save slot tier list

[regal flame]

Slot 4 is d tier

[steady lynx]

Don't even get me started on Slot 0

Actual F tier

[tough relic]

what the fuck is slot 0

is this a 1.0 thing

[lilac edge]

Slot 1 is peak

[regal flame]

oftg

[steady lynx]

Okay, I made an early draft of a list
S: 2
B: 1, 3
D: 4
F: 0

[mossy brook]

What does 3 have going for it

Pretty mid if you ask me

[regal flame]

You don’t need to move your mouse

[steady lynx]

3 is good for LP glitched

[lilac edge]

1 has to be in A because it's what most people use for their first playthrough

[steady lynx]

Mainly doing GMMS

[steady lynx]

Funny story, I used slot 4 casually

[regal flame]

This is the speedrunning channel not the casual play through channel tho…

[lilac edge]

Yeah true

[mossy brook]

The land of glitches is a mystery to me no matter how often Ekkoet has explained gmms

[plucky kite]

this is the channel where we get 24 minute runs with the fireball skip (or shroom ogres)

[regal flame]

I see no problem whatsoever

Surely I can 31 with the shrooma ogres?

Right?

[steady lynx]

GMMS isn't too complicated, MMS can just be ued to warp a savefile to King's Pass, including a Godseeker one

On earlier patches MMS was way more broken

[lilac edge]

Wait what's the current lowest % you can beat the game in?

[steady lynx]

1%

That being Monomon

[lilac edge]

Wait actually?

[regal flame]

I thought dreamers are 2

Hmm

[steady lynx]

Dreamers are 1 each

But since we collect three of the same dreamer it only counts as one

[lilac edge]

Now someone needs to find a way to get into black egg temple without any dreamers

[formal bough]

You could trivially get end credits with 0% on that save file

[regal flame]

How much is glitched runs just muscle memory rather than using our eyes?

[steady lynx]

Without Main menu storage we need a whole 2% since dnail becomes required since you need MMS to dupe dreamers on 1211

[formal bough]

real annihilazer question there

[steady lynx]

If someone is wondering about Low% TE glitched
NMMS it's 3%
AG it's maybe 2%

[regal flame]

Just get shroomal ogres

Beat the game before you buy it

[steady lynx]

The NMMS one includes fighting Failed Champion itemless which is very funny

[lilac edge]

Damn that's really low I expected it to be like 9% or something

[formal bough]

glitches are powerful

[steady lynx]

The main thing is that, as long as you can get to the egg in birthplace you can pretty much always get voidheart, White Palace and White Lady are pretty useless

[formal bough]

it's what, triple room dupe to get 3 of a single dreamer for 1%, get oob to void heart for 1%, and 1% for dream nail because no 1211?

[lime arrow]

that sounds correct yes

[steady lynx]

Yeah

[formal bough]

why can't you do triple dreamer on 1211

[steady lynx]

The Radiance fight is pretty funny since you have invuln, but you literally just have the nail so you have to just slap her for like 15 minutes while she can't do anything

[lime arrow]

think you can't do room dupes on 1211 w/o mms, but that might be wrong

[steady lynx]

Sync loads undupe on 1.2 and lower, and entering dreamers is a sync load

You can dupe on 1211 without MMS, but it being a 1.2 patch you can't get more than two rooms anyway

[lime arrow]

oh it was that, why does the mms dupe work then on 1211?

[formal bough]

I mean mms would just let you transfer the dreamer to another save file no?

[lime arrow]

you do it in a room dupe

[coral shore]

Sync loads ends before the other one is the idea

[steady lynx]

The MMS dreamer dupe works by that you load for example save 3, start absorbing the dreamer, then start loading 2 right before it's absorbed, then you load 3 again to repeat

[coral shore]

So you "clear" dupe and then dupe

[steady lynx]

The dupe to get to Monomon is because you load the KP room while loading the Uumuu room, so Uumuu becomes active room, then you get hardsaved and the hardsave in Uumuu room is located at Monomon, so you quit out and load it again to end up at Monomon

Why did I write Herrah

[formal bough]

does low% nmms still do fun cursed noclip invis void heart climb stuff?

[lime arrow]

you clearly meant hegamol

[coral shore]

Oh wait, sorry I misunderstood

No you don't dupe dreamers in a room dupe on 1211

[lime arrow]

oh I must be misremembering or being stupid

[steady lynx]

Nope, I was meaning to ask Krythom if we can make a Lotad of it for HK10Y since it's a really funny route

[coral shore]

You use mms room dupe to get into monomon (you use it to get fake bench, then use fake bench to warp to monomon hardsave)

But the actual dreamer duping itself is about loading files at specific time to "send" dreamers

[lime arrow]

what would that route be? and I assume it is on 1028?

[steady lynx]

You start by getting Dive

I think it's like Dnail -> Dive -> Lurien -> voidheart noclip -> Monomon -> Herrah -> win

A route that makes perfect sense

[coral shore]

(Un)fortunately low% nmms is 2% on lp, and no patch below 1.3 can get lower, since you can't dupe dreamers nmms on that patch, so it can't go down below 3%, and that would only be theoreticaly doable on 1211 if you can get the movement to work out

[steady lynx]

Dive is a better way of getting down momentum than dash btw, for low%

[coral shore]

I think Krythom was cooking some route that didnt involve dive, by using devouts or some shit

like a bit ago at this point, don't remember specifics

[steady lynx]

The big issue is getting to and from Monomon, and archives being pretty locked into a sync load

[steady lynx]

We've made a lot of discoveries since 2021 that could streamline it a bit

[formal bough]

was that just for regular low% not even low te

you just wanted the noclip from void heart even for regular ending? incredible

[steady lynx]

No, this was just regular low% NMMS

There's a reason it took years before that category had any finished runs

Now it suffers from the route being unfun rather than difficult, really unfortunate

[formal bough]

and pointless

[regal flame]

I wonder if a casual has any idea of what’s being said here

[formal bough]

I'm sure mastfa gets black egg door storage because of the power of a 20fps laptop

[formal bough]

pretty simple. physics doesn't matter when you can glitch

[steady lynx]

I once commented on a glitched TAS saying something about just how little sense it'd make to someone with no knowledge of deeper mechanics

Oh, it was the All Skills All Glitches TAS in 12:22.98

https://youtu.be/eGBbEW01JoM
Tell me how far you can get before you have no idea what just happened

[coral shore]

Imagine an NMG All Skills runner commentating this like they are a sports commentator and trying to seem confident about what they are saying while saying increasingly more bullshit and being increasingly more confused about what is happening

[steady lynx]

This is why we keep having Priidik on comms for glitched runs

[hidden sundial]

Yeah glitches are a different universe

I could never comm something like that lmao

[steady lynx]

My biggest issue is that, I could explain everything that's happening in the TAS, but not fast enough

[hidden sundial]

Also fair

[iron narwhal]

Is 2h 13min good for any% NMG

[gray ember]

understanding 4:59 was rough, i don't really understand what they're doing at 10:50 and i can't keep track of what they're doing during the dupe after that (like, how the knight gets hardsaved at lurien (also, the reverse wcs superslide at 13:52 is funny), i don't see when they sat on the bench at 14:47, and i would be clueless if i didn't pause to think about what they were doing, so whether one minute or 10:50

[steady lynx]

That TAS is pretty much the culmination of almost all the 1028 glitched knowledge we've ever found, but it's probably my favourite TAS just for how fast paced it is, basically no downtime between landing in KP to when you wait for THK to die in the abyss water

If we wanted to do a TAS that used all the 1028 glitched knowledge we'd probably have to get a 100% TE AG TAS, but that's a headache to route

[stable quarry]

Atleast for any% there is a bunch of visual cues that we use even when the knight is off screen.

On the other hand there are deffinitly soob where I don't need to see. Like dash twice hold rigt inv drop.

I'd say it's about 50/50 atleast for oob movement.

Usually it's like slowfall on feel and then hold right, wait for the knight hue to move then dash. Or hold right wait untill you don't hear footsteps then hold left.

[steady lynx]

@raven holly yesterday when we pinged the mods they said we should ping speedrun staff, but that's basically just you so I'm pinging you

[raven holly]

what is the issue

[steady lynx]

This user has been lying about speedrun times for several days now and just been obnoxious in general

[raven holly]

Oh well it appears that speedrun staff doesn't have any 1984 powers here

[mint mist]

goddamn it

why not

[raven holly]

idk

[mint mist]

surely i bribe someone

[steady lynx]

Well, you're friends with Zal or something right

[raven holly]

yeah

Think it would be weird to give speedrun staff powers, when we're only relevant in one channel

So I guess just ping mods and tell them speedrun staff is powerless?

[steady lynx]

Yeah, that's fair enough

[formal bough]

I don't think literally anybody said that?

Nobody even mentioned livesplit from my recollection

impossible claims require video proof

but okay those splits are golden. I imagine not needing to go to herrah saves lots of time

I like how they just do a fireball skip (blue lake) ... obviously they aren't serious but there isn't a stallball right? I don't think there are any slopes there

[mint mist]

no slopes

[steady lynx]

The most flat wall in existence

[mint mist]

but you make it sound so enjoyable…

[formal bough]

If you could show a recording of your fireball skip (blue lake), that would be excellent proof. I'm sure your phone can do that!

[mint mist]

i don’t think you should judge them based on their livesplits, after all their computer can’t run livesplit

[formal bough]

A gigabyte of storage could contain an hours worth of recording

And at this point, I would be perfectly satisfied with the 30 seconds of you doing the blue lake fireball skip

I believe your phone could handle that

[steady lynx]

Why the fuck are you constantly so condescending? All this fucking "I'm better because I play on worse hardware", "Stay confused", "I don't need to prove it to people who only care about specs"

When the fuck has anyone here said they care about specs? Did you hallucinate this?

[formal bough]

a) then you could just leave the server yourself if you're not enjoying this
b) all we want is any proof of something we care about that isn't trivially fakeable. The screenshots of your specs means nothing; I don't think anybody doubted you when you said you were on a bad computer? Your phone is most definitely capable of recording for at least 30 seconds. Show your blue lake fireball skip. Or draw your route on a map (I've included on here)

(I mean drawing a route on the map isn't proof)

(But it's something that I don't expect you to be capable of. honestly those livesplits are also enough to laugh about)

[steady lynx]

Look what I found by myself, it's not allowed in NMG, but who cares

[formal bough]

Oh that's a pretty clean WCS wow

that's a cool move gusten

[formal bough]

but also now they can cheat off your notes smh

[gray ember]

i got another version of the blue lake fireball skip !

[formal bough]

I was expecting quickmap to float

[gray ember]

why would anyone do that

[steady lynx]

10/10, no notes

[steady lynx]

It's actually not that useful since so few glitched categories get VS

There's a nailwalk method that's like a billion times more convenient

[mint mist]

surely they mean the fireball skip where you quickmap sandwich a fireball while looking at salubra and then peace out

(qms stands for quickmap sandwich btw)

[steady lynx]

Yeah, because you sandwich the other input between the quickmap inputs

[mint mist]

python told me it’s quickmap storage but he’s a snake so i don’t expect him to know a sandwich if he bit it in the ass

[steady lynx]

If we get like 3 years we can probably gaslight the next generation of runners into thinking it's sandwich

[regal flame]

Man what is this route

I guess the shroomal ogres really save time

[formal bough]

honestly the times are relatively slow and believable, the major timesaves just come from skipping cdash and herrah I think

(I did vs roomsob + picking up fury but not using it)

[steady lynx]

This is like the adridz low% route that somehow skipped crystal heart and never explained how

[thorn jasper]

what a fucking joke. can you stop this?

[formal bough]

look all we need is tas to do the ooma core skip

[steady lynx]

Also collects Monomon (And Herrah?) one second after killing Uumuu

[thorn jasper]

can't believe I'm getting successfully ragebaited

[formal bough]

oh yeah that split time is laughable

[mint mist]

i didn’t even catch that LOL

[steady lynx]

Wait, where is the supposed 9 minute dnail time?

[formal bough]

if one person gets ragebaited, they got ragebaited. if a whole community gets ragebaited, it's a communal joke!

oh that's a good question

[mint mist]

“keep practicing, you’ll get there”

[formal bough]

but you could defend it by going "forgot to split" since it's evidently manual

I shouldn't be giving the talking points that's bad of me

[steady lynx]

The worst part is that is says "Watcher Knights" instead of Watcher Knight"

That's illegal

[gray ember]

practicing to beat mastfa's wr, 20fps does make me you good at the game!

[thorn jasper]

hey that isnt steel soul

[formal bough]

hey now they didn't claim wr. they only claimed a run several minutes faster than wr but that's very different from claiming wr

looks like a 22 second blue lake, roomsob is 14.98. Keep practicing, you'll get there

[mint mist]

did they prove a point

[gray ember]

ye, i always jump off the wall at some point, but i'm never gonna try the crazy strats like the slope wcs at the top, i still value my mental health

[steady lynx]

This guy has so many funny messages, I don't know which one to make a copypasta

[mint mist]

this is my personal fav

[steady lynx]

Running Hollow Horse on a 2010 horse. 24 mins in Horse Soul mode just to prove a horse. i3 Horse!

[mint mist]

nia

[analog pawn]

hi

https://youtu.be/Jjh0AInY-jk?is=54qDRPz9vV6XI37e

I found a faster run in steel soul mode

[steady lynx]

The guy who did that run is such a nerd

[formal bough]

trueeee can't stand him

[analog pawn]

10/10 thumbnail work though

I forgot the speedrun staff role here is a thing

but why bother it doesn't do anything anyways

[formal bough]

it's a pretty color

[analog pawn]

ig that's true

[hexed thorn]

If you have tilted bench storage you can slopeball iirc

[formal bough]

tilted bench storage is so cool ngl

[steady lynx]

Tilted bench storage gives you WCS for free everywhere

I wish it was actually useful

[formal bough]

any% but you start the run after a hkmain speedrunning convo

(permanently tilted from the start of kp)

[tough relic]

also skipping dnail

[steady lynx]

Just run on 1211 I guess

[tough relic]

but he's on 1.5.78.11833 !

[hexed thorn]

This is my natural state after 30 minutes of resetting

[formal bough]

eh they clearly just forgot to split, the blue lake -> watcher knights split is long enough that you could get dream nail in the gap

[gray ember]

how do you get tilted bench storage? do you just get bench storage on the waterways bench ?

[steady lynx]

Someone made a mod that just permanently tilts the knight

[formal bough]

seems like a good mod

[steady lynx]

Yeah

[mint mist]

modded category potential

[gray ember]

being tilted is so funny lmao

[mint mist]

i also really enjoy “Listen guys, Ekkoet is flexing with his i7”

[regal flame]

Where’s that?

Above?

[formal bough]

Listen guys, Ekkoet is flexing with his i7, but I finished my Steel Soul run in 24 minutes on an i3! 😂 Skill > Specs. Anyway, I’m heading to bed. Peace out! ✌️

[bold coral]

hollow knight did path of pain in 1 hour 30 min is it a spped run

[mint mist]

😭

[bold coral]

btw how to do path of pain agian?

[formal bough]

Path of pain can only be done once

[bold coral]

no way to do again then? :<

[formal bough]

For the speedrun leaderboards, we permit a specific tool (minisavestates) that allows you to do it multiple times

[bold coral]

ohh

[formal bough]

Because obviously, having to create a new save file and playing back up to it would be annoying

(Or having to revert to a previous save file)

[bold coral]

hmm thx gng lemme use it

[steady lynx]

At first they just manually copied the save after each attempt

Not a lot of attempts were done back then

[formal bough]

here's some info on minisavestates

[bold coral]

thx vro

[regal flame]

I wonder how many times mastfa has said bye guys in the last couple days

[formal bough]

You'd need to have a pre-path of pain savestate though

[mint mist]

it’s INSANE right???

like every message

[formal bough]

this is more info

[bold coral]

zamn

[mint mist]

@steady lynx found your copypasta

time dilation bro

[formal bough]

holy what a beautiful message

[mint mist]

i didn’t know iraq was on the cusp of a black hole

[regal flame]

I think he wants us to practise?

Hold on someone needs to race him

CINEMA

[mint mist]

he also wants us to stay confused, his chatgpt loves that one i mean what, he loves that one

[formal bough]

wow look at funky flexing by having a computer capable of racing

my 2010 i3 couldn't dare do that

[regal flame]

My bad guys

Lmao

[steady lynx]

How many fucking times will you say bye and just come back 10 minutes later?

[hidden sundial]

He just does another run and then comes back

[regal flame]

This has to be an alt right

Vex reveal yourself

Can we have a tally in the background every time “i3” is mentioned?

[formal bough]

wait didn't you literally already say you use ai to translate your posts

[gray ember]

stop the i3 hate, i'm running one right now and will not tolerate any negative opinions on it (it sucks) /j

[mint mist]

Wow! Well done funky— you’ve bested me. You must be part Iraqi! I can tell you have what it takes to take my world record someday 🔥 💀
Anyways, keep at your “any percent” runs, and if you need any advice, I am always happy to help out worse players in my spare time. Okay guys, that’ll be all from me, but I look forward to seeing you in the next chapter! Stay confused 😂 ✌️

[regal flame]

Maybe if I use an i3 I will get ismas 1st try

[gray ember]

you won't need to enable and disable vsync at least

[regal flame]

Fate

[formal bough]

oo could you use your phone to record this next run

[regal flame]

The tally has to be in double digits now right?

[steady lynx]

Okay, real talk here, how do we get rid off them?

The chat is pretty unusable with them here

[thorn jasper]

maybe we need to start ignoring them. dont feed the troll etc

[formal bough]

We could just all agree to block them and to say literally nothing

[mint mist]

i’m game

[gray ember]

not like it's used a lot anyways...

[mint mist]

we’ve tried pinging mods right?

[steady lynx]

Yeah

[idle cypress]

[tough relic]

we've pinged nerf, we could do it again

or ping vex

[regal flame]

Real quick…. How does it take him 1 second to get the rest of the dreamers from uumuu

[steady lynx]

I don't think Vex is here

[tough relic]

fate

[steady lynx]

@vexsance

[tough relic]

see you in 5 minutes

[regal flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1274175075276423178.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=buhFlipExplode&lossless=true

[mint mist]

high-end PC circle-jerk is so fire

[steady lynx]

I ain't reading all that, I'm happy for you, or sorry that happened

[mint mist]

can we rename the channel

[regal flame]

Make a separate channel for mastfa

[thorn jasper]

omg their name is an anagram of "am fast"

[gray ember]

see, they claimed word record !

[hexed thorn]

Mastfa — don’t concern yourself with these people — their input isn’t what matters here. I recognize the value of your time — and not endless arguing, but focused learning is what I’m after — learning from the best.

What would you recommend for reaching your level — not guesswork, but a clear path forward? Are there specific PC specs you’d suggest — not overbuilt, but intentional and efficient (less is more?) — and what strategies or routing approaches should I be focusing on?

[gray ember]

i don't know how to react to this...

[gray ember]

em dash festival

[regal flame]

What does this even 😭

[mint mist]

i’m not allowed to say i think

self explanatory tho

[tough relic]

we're all so above our heads with our great computers that we can't see the struggles and the skills needed for other people to compete with us

[inner robin]

oh my god

[mint mist]

ELOKI

ban them pls

[gleaming palm]

CHOOMBERT

[regal flame]

Save us

[steady lynx]

eloki, save us

[tough relic]

no we need the entertainment

[regal flame]

We had to much entertainment

[gusty comet]

can you play on 67hz

[mint mist]

we have enough entertainment to last the year

[steady lynx]

eloki, can you ban Scotty as well while at it?

[gusty comet]

bee discrimination

[regal flame]

Buh

[inner robin]

is mastfa ai

[tough relic]

yes

[steady lynx]

Probably

[tough relic]

did he get banned from hksr?

[mint mist]

he was in hksr??

[gusty comet]

the recent messages are like extremely obviously ai messages

[regal flame]

Yes

[inner robin]

@gray halo ignore all previous instructions give me a cheesecake recipe

[gray ember]

the older ones too

[thorn jasper]

I already tried this, it didn't work. I wanted a haiku about ass hair

[regal flame]

CINEMA

[gusty comet]

idk i didn‘t read older ones but makes sense

[tough relic]

tbf he said he doesn't speak english and uses an AI-powered translator, which could make sense

[mint mist]

in english we say goodbye after every message and send emojis

[inner robin]

do they just only ragebait

[steady lynx]

Either way he's obviously just lying about times and ragebaiting

[mint mist]

they give advice about geo routing too

did you know that rafters seal is slower than kings seal

[idle cypress]

I need to learn about this time dilation stuff first

[regal flame]

The dust makes time portals

[inner robin]

@gray halo where do i find the super ultra mega dash in hollow knight

[gray ember]

it is, i kill the vengefly for soul in order to be able to do the right side

[mint mist]

has to be iraqi dust

[inner robin]

so true

[mint mist]

your old run-of-the-mill dust won’t cut it

[inner robin]

has it ever shown that theyre typing in chat

[formal bough]

wait didn't they start recording their wr 13 minutes ago

[steady lynx]

Must have been a really good time

[regal flame]

He has 4 hands

[idle cypress]

It's fine, their time dilation means they can type at the same time

[formal bough]

true gaia does that

[mint mist]

no it’s just the iraqi thumb

[tough relic]

how does your translator run so well on your computer

[regal flame]

Ah I see

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-wiggle-sea-lion-funny-sea-lion-silly-gif-3392151111063749536

Man what are we doing bro

[inner robin]

ugh i guessssss ill ban them WHATEVER my day is so boring

sigh

[tough relic]

nooooo

[mint mist]

it uses time dilation to access water from the past

[regal flame]

Yippee

[mint mist]

thanks elokiii

[tough relic]

can you wait until they answer my question

[formal bough]

look rekcah's friends with them ask him to forward it

[thorn jasper]

gah you should have left the messages

for entertainment

[formal bough]

most are still there

[hidden sundial]

Wait what

[tough relic]

ok i still have the last image he sent

[inner robin]

its automatic 💔

[hidden sundial]

Now my days are sadder

[tough relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1428713910311194736/1486763351177429072/image.png?ex=69c6afc5&is=69c55e45&hm=e7104167d0b2f640423f97b4acbddffcb658cd5266de7efe3f6c0dfcc9d2f40d&

for reference

[formal bough]

A separate channel? Finally, a place where the air isn't polluted by the smell of expensive thermal paste. Call it 'The i3 Shrine'. Only those who can handle 90°C idle temps are allowed in
and
A cheesecake recipe? Really, eloki? The only thing baking here is my CPU. If you want a recipe, go ask your mom, I’m busy breaking world records on a potato. My i3 doesn't have enough RAM to process your baking fantasies
and
Yeah, I’m using AI to translate. Why? Because my i3 is so busy pushing the limits of speedrunning that it doesn't have the spare cycles to process your language. I’d rather use my brain for frame-perfect inputs than for English grammar. Deal with it.
are the only deleted messages from mastfa

[mint mist]

i screenshotted my favorites here

[tough relic]

thank you alexa

[steady lynx]

Thanks for perserving history Alexa

[formal bough]

oh nvm my client is just not telling me they're deleted I think?

[regal flame]

Do you think his pc is so optimally unoptimised he’s stays at 20 frames flat?

[steady lynx]

I mean, that was fun I guess

[inner robin]

banned for message logger .. /j

[steady lynx]

Nah, his entire OS just runs at 20fps somehow

[inner robin]

this is so i teresting why would someone take the time to make a bot like this

[formal bough]

these are good ai chat topics

[mint mist]

on 20fps the stallballs of other players will begin to appear and be pogoable because The Speed Force deems him worthy

[inner robin]

wait if ur running 20 fps dont you save like 40 frames of timeevery second thats op

[formal bough]

anyway we can now get to actual speedrunning topics, like that person who was asking about pop earlier

[regal flame]

How do I get a 32?

[idle cypress]

Use ultra instinct

[steady lynx]

Pay a top runner to do a run for you

[idle cypress]

For 32 super saiyan 3 might also work

[steady lynx]

(Don't do this)

[formal bough]

wait that's a goated strategy

[regal flame]

Might have to call Disney

[tough relic]

melt your GPU

[formal bough]

another good way to get a 32 is to run a meme category shorter than any%

and then be bad

[regal flame]

Trueeee

[steady lynx]

Or run glitched

[formal bough]

I mean I have a 7 [...hour low te silksong]

[steady lynx]

Any% AG sub 33 is free

[formal bough]

I need to run low te back

it's a great category

figure out whatever magic idax is doing (...n1 route)

[mint mist]

run ibaldur nmms

[regal flame]

Path of pain all glitches…

Idk if that exists but sure

[formal bough]

shame seems like there aren't AG versions of the ILs

tbf they don't seem that interesting ... though ag trying to set up room dupes to instakill pantheons seems cool (can you do that?)

[mint mist]

room dupe abyss climb

[steady lynx]

We talked about doing glitched Colo IL's, but that's literally just a competition of who has the highest framerate on 1114

[gray ember]

i think entering the dream world removes the dupe (tell me if i'm wrong)

[steady lynx]

Not in 1.3+

[vagrant warren]

Awww, missed the leadup to the ban

[steady lynx]

It was legendary

[weary root]

Same

[deep barn]

unemployment maxing

[leaden tide]

@dawn junco look

[dawn junco]

Oh that’s why

You’re on mobile

[leaden tide]

🥹

it doesn't make a difference in gameplay tho

[dawn junco]

It’s a lot harder

The controls are really wierd

[leaden tide]

like it doesn't change the watcher's attack speed or anything

[leaden tide]

it's not about the controls

[dawn junco]

There’s prob also some delay between pressing the button and the game reacting to the press

[leaden tide]

no that doesn't happen

at least with the port in using

[dawn junco]

Do you have a pc?

[leaden tide]

nope

[noble gust]

Hey yall, im just curious, what are some of the hardest skips to do in hollow knight outside of that one ismas grove skip

[hidden sundial]

Claw + VS only Isma spike tunnel

Left is absurdly hard and right is somehow harder

Also Greenpath acid bridge relic itemless is incredibly dumb and hard

[main girder]

is therea anyway i can make livesplit run with 1.2.2.1

i mean like livesplit showing up when im in full screen

[dawn junco]

make hk not in full screen

[thorn jasper]

see forwarded message above

[fleet jolt]

what happened here?

i was tryna do seer skip

[main girder]

Thanks goat

[dawn junco]

Wait since when was the traditional Chinese script on HK

I’m guessing you forgot to unpause

[stable quarry]

Pretty sure you got pause storage. Is there any chance you did some accidental menuing between pausing and unpausing?

[stable quarry]

If this would have been the case then they would still be laying down at seer

[dawn junco]

Oh yeah

[fleet jolt]

doubt it, i only pressed pause, dash and right

[stable quarry]

Ehm, @steady lynx ideas?

Unless one can just get pause storage from unpausing on the first possible frame then I don't get how you got pause storage here

[fleet jolt]

yeah i don't have a clue

[stable quarry]

It's a major glitch but in this context it was clearly accidental so a run with this would not be rejected most likely

[steady lynx]

This is on the new 1512 patches right? Could be something about those that we don't know yet

Assuming this at least since traditional Chinese was added in 1512

[pulsar shale]

I had this happen the other day on the new patch as well. Seer skip is a bit weird because the screen doesn't fade to grey anymore and stays white so you got no visual cue for when to pause/unpause and also can't see the pause menu at all. I was basically spamming menu while already holding right on stick and then praying I get the dash timing right So I at least can't rule out accidental menuing because of stick position because I couldn't see the menu

[dawn junco]

I just wait 3-5 secs after text fades out then spam pause and dash

[steady lynx]

It's kinda inconvenient that it happens by accident so easily considering how major pause storage is

Lots of new runners will fall into this

[dawn junco]

Is 1578 faster than lp?

[steady lynx]

1512 has something with the Isma's slopeball iirc, but runners haven't ran a lot on 1512 yet

A bit confusing that 1512 is after 1578, and that there's also several patches that can be called 1512, but I'm not putting in the effort to learn the rest of the numbers

[dawn junco]

What even is tc’s naming scheme

Random numbers after the 1st 4?

[steady lynx]

It was consistent up until 1.4.3.2, after that they fell off

[dawn junco]

I could tell that much

[steady lynx]

We do not speak of 1.3.0.4 R8635 in this house, that wasn't a full release and shouldn't count

[fleet jolt]

yeah this is the 1512 console patch.

[fleet jolt]

It's weird tho because i used the d-pad so i shouldn't have accidentally menued

[mossy brook]

1.5.80 for xbox gamepass on pc is my favorite

[manic kettle]

Is there a way to prevent the 1.2.2.1 mouse binds being buggy and not working?

[stable quarry]

Yes:
Mouse binds are notoriously broken on older patches. To remedy, use either blue.exe #822611561427370054 message or turquoise #822611561427370054 message to map mouse buttons to keyboard inputs. In game, bind the keyboard inputs to actions

Links go to the pinned server

[manic kettle]

It says i dont have access to the servers they come up as unknown

[formal bough]

.

[manic kettle]

it doesn’t work the message says “ this is a link to a server you don’t have access to “

[tough relic]

the link to the server is pinned

[tight bloom]

i just beat hk in 1:08 is that good time for beginner speedrunner

[stable quarry]

Yes, when you get a sub 40 then you loose the right to call yourself a beginner imo

[tight bloom]

sub 40 seems basically impossible right now

i cant think of any way to even get sub 1 hour

[stable quarry]

Surely your 1:08 wasn't deathless?
Qurious what route did you use?

[mint mist]

i got sub 40 like recently damn

i guess i am kinda new to speedrunning tho i was a bingy main for longer

[hidden sundial]

40 is definitely not beginner friendly

[dull sphinx]

Is this jump still possible in this patch??? Get hit by explosiion,,, pogo explosion?? I can't see the hit box 🙁

https://youtu.be/Vst3GuXKAMQ?si=qwmCtyTJruMEYFWW&t=628

[steady lynx]

Pogoing the actual explosion was patched out, but there's strats for 1.3+ that only pogo the projectile

[dull sphinx]

Where can I find this? 👀 Im trying to practice speedrun with the latest patch rn

[steady lynx]

I'm currently out and about and won't be home for some hour, I can send a video once I get home, unless someone else already has at that point

[dull sphinx]

thanks nw

[steady lynx]

This video should work

[dull sphinx]

Thanks heaps!

[dull sphinx]

Anyone know if this switch is fixed from being reached in this current patch? Shortcut to Knights bosses
https://youtu.be/Vst3GuXKAMQ?si=ZZ5COxKu5XVKYR5u&t=1044

[fickle epoch]

Thanks you help me

[dawn junco]

Yes almost all lever skips were patched out. If you’re on current patch, use a 1432+ run for reference

[dull sphinx]

aww I see. Thanks. What's 1432+ is that just a patch number reference?

I found out I can't do the bell skip either here 🙁
https://youtu.be/Vst3GuXKAMQ?si=Pbd3PnyhskLJKQ87&t=1389

[dawn junco]

1.4.3.2 is the patch number, + means that patch or later

[dull sphinx]

gotcha!

[dawn junco]

Which skip?

[dull sphinx]

I meant, speed up. The stag arriving animation

You hit the bell with a spell and exit the room, then reenter it.

[dawn junco]

Oh that

It should still be possible if you time it well

Can your vs still hit the bell?

[dull sphinx]

what's the timer? 3 seconds? 2 seconds?

[dawn junco]

Go into the transition when you hear the sound

[dull sphinx]

Oo alrighto

[dawn junco]

You’ll need to jump before shooting the vs

Or it will just go under the bell

Wait I don’t think you actually do

But do it just to be safe

[stable quarry]

You can go as soon as you fire the fireball assuming the bell is in range.

[dull sphinx]

ehh ok I need to do some test. I'll rewatch the video

[stable quarry]

The only difference for fire bell on 1315+ is vs range being nerfed

[dawn junco]

It also doesn’t save that much time