speedrunning

[strange hamlet]

i watched a video and it seemed siimple but ig it was just cause they were used to it

and i was confused cause i thought its a hard skip

[weary root]

https://youtu.be/kpfT4kfr5k0?si=4CjifuV_Vr5fLWhS&t=756 here's a tutorial if you're interested!

[static umbra]

I will mention that spear + 4 needle + spear (s4s) is an outdated method for bell beast quick kill, it is better to do 4 needle (4n) or 5 needle (5n) opener to avoid additional rng chances for extra attacks, and in the case of 5n, u can even enter with 4 silk (enough to silk spear the silk wall to start the fight), rather than full silk.

[winter trench]

I would recommend doing small jumps while attacking as well since it lowers the attack cooldown a bit

Works in HK too

I absolutely speed killed The Hollow Knight using that tech when doing steel heart

[mint mist]

jumping does not affect nail cooldown in hk

idk about silksong but i’d guess not there either

sources are telling me it is in fact real silksong tech

that’s stupid 😭

but anyway no it does not work in hk too

[river frost]

Guys how did silksong WR go from 2 hours on release to sub 1 hour now? What new routes have been discovered?

[mint mist]

it got to like 1:04 or smth on the first major route, but then people found timesave on entering citadel through steps instead of mist and then people started running on release patch and cashing in on timesave from not needing drifters cloak

but also, people just got better at the game

[winter trench]

Really? I swear it did

[mint mist]

nah you were right about it being a thing is silksong

[winter trench]

Ok

I swear it’s a thing in HK as well tho

It at least certainly feels faster

[dry escarp]

What’s harder hollow knight or silksong

[winter trench]

Silksong

[vagrant warren]

For speedrunning it depends on the category TBH. Like some people might find silksong any% harder just because it's longer, although HK any% is harder at top levels because it's more optimized

[mint mist]

silksong is harder on your hands

[strange hamlet]

Hollowknight is easier for beginners or casuals who just finished the game as it is an easier game. But at the top level I think silksong is easier because there isn't that many hard skips. The hardest silksong skips are probably the mist and craw skip, but if you don't like either just go the other route. However to get top level runs in hk you gotta do stuff like qga and fungal wastes acid skip which are very very hard. Not to mention uumuu one cycles and other stuff I'm probably forgetting

[lilac sand]

I mean silksong speedruns aren't as optimized as hollow knight ones bc it's still a new game. Silksong has a higher learning curve in movement and combat, acid skips might be harder but I don't think it matters too much overall.

[mint mist]

holy deth appearance

[dawn junco]

<@&283547423706447872> free $2700

[weary root]

Didn't it use to be 3000? They're scamming us wtf

[mint mist]

sustainable business practices

[steady lynx]

Soon enough we'll circle back around to the 50 dollar steam gift card

[winter trench]

I got upside down Hornet in p1 while doing steel heart

180 messages until I get image perms, let’s go, now 179

[gray ember]

the best advice i saw for farming 300 messages yet was by roma337 : defending sharp shadow in #hk-discussion

[winter trench]

lol

Sharp shadow is really good for the first half of p4

[gray ember]

uh

it is good for speedrunning PoP and White palace and for aura farming in hkmp

[winter trench]

I couldn’t get past that first part of p4 for sooo long, but I then equipped sharp sharp and beat the first half first try

[gray ember]

"but then i had a very good idea : i equipped sharp shadow, see, equipping sharp shadow gave me a brand new perspective and allowed me to beat p4"

[winter trench]

Oh no, I haven’t even gotten to pure vessel

[static umbra]

<@&283547423706447872>

[thin oriole]

@scarlet maple TUBI I GOT A 57:43 ALL SKILLS RUN :D (wr of No Itemless Baldur is 48:15)
-# This server is english only, dont reply in portuguese :3

This was like my first run

This why im so excited

[winter trench]

WWWWW

[spring flicker]

Yoo first tried wk

Am I finally consistant?

[mint mist]

<@&283547423706447872>

[scarlet maple]

WOW

W

[thorn jasper]

<@&283547423706447872>

[mint mist]

<@&283547423706447872>

[grand galleon]

chat is 18.24 seconds on pure vessel decent

[mint mist]

<@&283547423706447872>

insane rates today

i have a hat trick

[stable quarry]

No clue tbh, top 74 out of how many btw?

[atomic snow]

https://youtu.be/NGCmKKTAhCQ

am i allowed to do this

[mint mist]

it won’t get verified bc your game is modded, but you’re allowed to run it modded and you’re allowed to post pbs here

[steady lynx]

<@&283547423706447872>

[potent mountain]

forgot to delete that one

[steady lynx]

Thanks mods

[potent mountain]

[winter trench]

That you? Nice

I might start doing PoP like every Monday ngl

I really should go back to radiance sundays…

[deep grove]

vro can you help me at the last section? i suck

[winter trench]

At the last part of the last room, double jump then dash

Also

[deep grove]

nah the last room

[winter trench]

On the last room, c-dash as high up as you can to skip a bit

[winter trench]

The part leading into the kings mound

[deep grove]

whuts that

[winter trench]

The 4 armed creatures in the white palace, you dream a dead one to get into the white palace

[atomic snow]

YO we should vc sometime

[atomic snow]

Thanks and yeah they didn’t take it

The sad part is I can’t get back in with out the mods😔

[mint mist]

the magic of lumafly’s “launch vanilla game” button

[stable quarry]

There is a mod that is allowed for il runs that is basically just saving or loaing a single savestate.

Minisavestates is a modified Assembly-CSharp.dll allowed for running Individual Levels. It supports saving and reloading a save state, but does not have any other debug features. Assemblies for 1.5, 1.4, and 1.2.2.1 can be found at https://github.com/hk-speedrunning/MiniSavestates/releases. Download the file corresponding to your HK patch and replace the file hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Assembly-CSharp.dll found in the game files (see ;saves if you don't know where that is). For usage info, see the README.

You can also just download a file that hasn't entered pop.
#824372681512190004 message

[winter trench]

Nah

[gray ember]

found out you can get across this gap with only 2 shrogos, that's fun

[mint mist]

i've done it with 3, how are you getting 2?

wiggles?

oh wait im stupid i was labbing it clawless

[gray ember]

i didn't get 2 legit, you need to grab the overhanging wall where the ceiling is flat, cling, dash, shrogo, dash, wings to get the overhanging wall on the other side (this one sucks to get), then wj, dash, wings

how did you get 3 clawless ?

[mint mist]

sharp shadow and getting up on the roof

lot of fall speed resetting

[gray ember]

can you get up on the roof with only one shrogo ?

[mint mist]

mhm

if nail length

one of my friends was scoping out clawless wp TAS and I was trying to get 2 shrogos to happen but i was hardwalled by 3 i dont think 2 is real

[gray ember]

i actually need to try clawless, only 3 is crazy !

where is this tas ?

[mint mist]

he hasn't started (bc its probably not possible) but we were just trying to lab if routing cdash out of clawless TE was real

i don't think he will even start for a while bc his next project is like csc tas or smth i forget

jalepino joe, if you know him

[gray ember]

i thought it was javier that was trying to figure out csc, guess i was wrong

[mint mist]

nope! joe spent a while trying to get proofs for spelless csc

[gray ember]

sad thing is they couldn't manage to get a rock pogo in abyss without longnail, it looked so close

[mint mist]

insane that they got that far, i thought the hopper pogo needed longnail too

[gray ember]

not sure, maybe they were just trying to see if the skip was even possible before implementing it in the full run

[gray ember]

just got clawless 1 shrogo to the roof, this is so precise

[mint mist]

:D

from there you just fall speed reset like there’s no tomorrow

stall for sharp shadow twice, and don’t really worry about losing height

i wonder if you could make it more generous with narts

is that real

[gray ember]

(my bad, i forgot to write that i did it on .1 speed)

and it still took me 20 minutes lmao

[gray ember]

what do you use to stall ?

[mint mist]

sshadow shriek and wings at the end

but maybe a gslash stall could be cooking

or maybe i’m a rando addict

bc there’s a thornstand on the left ceiling after shrogo 1

that’s real tech surely

[gray ember]

i tried gslash (right under the thornstand) -> sharp shadow dashslash -> shrogo -> sharp shadow dashslash -> shrogo -> sharp shadow and still didn't make it

[mint mist]

[gray ember]

but my movement wasnt precise and i didnt optimize the shrogos

[mint mist]

was it close?

[gray ember]

nope

but i definitely understand that TAS can do it

[mint mist]

low tft wiggles fate

[gray ember]

tas shrogo gains so much height

[gray ember]

are wiggles useful? because in the end all you want to do is go right left

[mint mist]

maybe you’re right

im just saying buzzwords tbh

[gray ember]

i wonder if good tft makes shrogos better tho

[mint mist]

i doubt that shrogos for the sake of horizontal benefit that much, but i know wiggles are used for pure vertical

[drowsy lagoon]

where should i go after getting dream nail

city?

[mint mist]

for any% nmg yeah

lurien lemm lantern cdash monomon herrah thk

[robust grove]

[late quartz]

I want to learn stall ball what’s a good area/slope to start

[vagrant warren]

whichever one you plan on using in runs, I think they basically all have slighhtly different setups

[mint mist]

you should probably like turn on hitboxes inf soul and noclip just to see where the stallball happens so you understand kinda what your positioning should be but like colette said it varies a ton depending on the location

unless it’s nosk% in which case just give up

[spring flicker]

U use stallball for nosk?

I thought u needed dash and claw to get to him

[spring flicker]

Oh god

I thought just normal claw and dash skip was bad

[winter trench]

Good job, now do it without the lantern

[spring flicker]

Any tips for the glowing womb cdashless?

Its litterly impossible to practice ts

[winter trench]

Lock in

[spring flicker]

Ts is so dumb

[vagrant warren]

for me, my brain wants spike tunnels to be an even rhythm, but it's not. its not Dash, Pogo, dash it's dash ... pogo-dash

[spring flicker]

But I also have to fireball

Thats the hard part

[vagrant warren]

yeah, but same applies, don't try to make it an even rhythm, find the uneven rhythm

[spring flicker]

I cant even do 1 consistantly

[vagrant warren]

If you can find someone doing it with input display itmight help

[spring flicker]

Yeah ima just get a nail upgrade instead of womb

If im entering city thru reasting grounds and i want to go to basin is it faster to go to nailsmith and bechwarp to kings station?

Then go basin?

[mint mist]

this room is a light room

[spring flicker]

Smh hk speedrunners will use mods for everything except making the game harder

[vagrant warren]

Speedrunners only do the hard thing if it's also the fast thing.

I'm sure there are challenge runners or rando players who've done it in the dark

[spring flicker]

Bruh why did i ever doubt shaman stone

Ts op

Can't believe i ever thought soul catcher would be better against lost kin

[timber ermine]

defender's crest is suprisingly good against lost kin

[spring flicker]

Yeah its all the way in waterways tho

I only need shamans

[scenic silo]

How

[timber ermine]

I mean I used it against broken vessel and lost kin it does well against the infection blobs which is usually the main threat

[scenic silo]

Oh nice

[scenic silo]

I hate those bubbles to this day

[static umbra]

<@&283547423706447872>

[molten garnet]

Hi

Skibidi

[royal parrot]

Hello

https://youtu.be/hQ-ynzmYwMg?si=ceXc0ODTcsFn3hvL

[steep pendant]

u know u can pogo him? then u wont need to jump every time

any ways great job

👍

[dawn junco]

@patent cedar hello

[deep grove]

hi

[patent cedar]

He asked for me dingus

I'm markiplier

Not u

[deep grove]

aw

temu markiplier

[patent cedar]

Hey

That's a low blow

[dawn junco]

Are you using the normal any% route

[patent cedar]

Well

Kinda

I go for ddive instead of lantern

[dawn junco]

Oh ok

[patent cedar]

Is going for lantern better than ddive?

[dawn junco]

Try this route then

https://youtu.be/qNBMEPFFzS8?si=XJdJFqvrqjHfvcHd

[dawn junco]

It’s slower but easier

[patent cedar]

I see

[dawn junco]

If you get dive might as well get ddark

So full kill fk and pick up city crest

Then after claw go to city for dive

This route gets both lantern and dive actually

[patent cedar]

Fighting watchers without ddive is hard

[dawn junco]

So if you’re comfortable with doing dark deepnest and peaks then you dont need to get any relics

Bc you don’t need lantern

[winter trench]

I did it without dive or shade cloak in steel soul

[dawn junco]

Ok

That’s not bad actually

[royal parrot]

https://youtu.be/kHv_eN7QTY8?si=UhCJIaFFwKN7srDi

[dawn junco]

No self promotion please

[patent cedar]

Ah yes

But then should I kill false knight or leave him be

[winter trench]

Just Speedrun deepnest lantern less

[patent cedar]

Since I don't need lantern

[dawn junco]

Full kill for crest

[patent cedar]

I could just shade skip to blue lake

[dawn junco]

And get the geo so that you don’t have to worry about early game geo

[dawn junco]

It’s faster from wastes entrance for this route

Bc you get cheart, then ddark, then dnail

[patent cedar]

I see

That sounds promising

[ruby remnant]

hello i have this speeedrun but i have no prove for it but i sweer its real how can i prove it

https://giphy.com/gifs/cinema-absolute-013TEwRyEVW7EJO9iz

[spring flicker]

I did tons of dive runs a while ago so if you have any questions I might be able to help

[winter trench]

Good job, now do it in steel soul

[ruby remnant]

I don't think this alone took me two days of trying.

[stable quarry]

You can prove it by doing more runs while recording them

[ruby remnant]

It's difficult to do it again

[stable quarry]

It's easier the secound time. Well and the 50th time

[spring flicker]

Guys I beat the game in 60 hours

Is that wr?

[hidden sundial]

Depends

What game?

[spring flicker]

Hk

[stable quarry]

xD, is this Silksong AA?

[winter trench]

24 hours for my first playthrough

[spring flicker]

Oh I actually beat it in 23.9 hours

[winter trench]

I beat steel soul in 3 hours, 59 minutes, and 34 seconds

[spring flicker]

I beat steel soul litterly 1 second faster than that, what a coincidence

[stable quarry]

I really should finish a run of SS any%. I died to THK at 45 minnutes last time

[spring flicker]

Thats pretty good

[mint mist]

just do hitless any% on steel soul, then you won’t die :)

[spring flicker]

Im dumb I thought u meant sulksong any%

Steel soul is very easy as long as its your second time playing the game

Or 50th

[winter trench]

Yeah

What about this?

[patent cedar]

Ok

[hidden sundial]

I died to THK at 44:59 minutes

[mint mist]

that’s a lot of minutes

[spring flicker]

I dont have the pacence for 100% runs

[hidden sundial]

I don't have the patience for non-rando runs tbf

[mint mist]

-# bingy

[winter trench]

I did it because I’m a completionist

[hidden sundial]

wingy*

[mint mist]

subliminal messaging nerthul to become a bingy sweat

look at this messaging, it’s so subliminal

[spring flicker]

I hate completionists no game is perfect so I almost never get all achievements in a game

Only do it if its fun

[hidden sundial]

Bingy is cool, but it hasn't grown on me as much

[mint mist]

[spring flicker]

I think I'll speedrun Grimm today

[hidden sundial]

NKG% is fun

Specially this segment: https://www.twitch.tv/nerthul11/clip/AmusedBlueClamBloodTrail-BnGteFWWobqUsACa

[spring flicker]

Idk if I wanna do nkg

Seems long

I'll just banish him

[hidden sundial]

It's a sub hour done properly, banishing's probably around 10-15 min faster

[spring flicker]

Only 10-15?

[hidden sundial]

Yeah, I mean, the only difference is that after Brumm flame instead of getting Tram Pass and going to Hive and back into City you go straight to Cliffs

[stable quarry]

Oh no I'm not done with that casually yet

[hidden sundial]

Plus the NKG boss fight, obviously

[spring flicker]

Maybe I won't speedrun it

I'll just do it normally with skips if possible

I haven't Banished him yet

[mint mist]

nkg% is cool but overcharming a 2 mask fight at the end of the run is scary

[hidden sundial]

You can do it without overcharming, it's just missing out on Soul Catcher

Sure, slight time loss, but nothing too crazy

[stable quarry]

Can you not pogo the hexagons?

[hidden sundial]

I think not

If that's possible I'll feel a bit dumb ngl

[spring flicker]

Im sorry you had to find out this way

[mint mist]

we pogo on the hexagons in ghostbusters to get faster aggro, but i don’t think you can make it with just hexagons so that doesn’t really solve the child problem

[late quartz]

Now I may not be Fireborn or BlueSr but I got sub 20 city of tears city crest route steel soul current patch no glitches

[gray ember]

sub 20 hours is... 1035th on he leaderboard

[spring flicker]

Keep it up💪

[deep gulch]

hi can someone tell me the name of the mod used in speedruns to record the time and the different segments?

[weary root]

It's not a mod, for the most part mods aren't allowed for speedrunning. It's a program called livesplit, and there's an autosplitter/load remover for hollow knight that reads the game data to know when you pick up items etc.

[deep gulch]

oh, thanks for the help have a great day!

[thick bronze]

Livesplit

[jolly vessel]

Does anyone know what current record is for cgms

I'm going for the cgms and wondering if I could get that too

[formal bough]

Do you mean twisted%? 58m39s

[jolly vessel]

Yeah I did, thx

[grim blade]

Is it possible to get into whisp thicket in steel soul without major glitches in act one?

[formal bough]

Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEciAONCM0I

[grim blade]

Holy shit

[shell spindle]

Wtf

[mellow jolt]

Practicing Absrad for P5 Speedrun lol(yall like my setup😭)(school computer btw, security on these are terrible lol)

[distant mango]

most powerful Chromebook be like

[mellow jolt]

Fr

A bit laggy sometimes but I made it pretty optimized I think

[upbeat escarp]

oh look a normal person's speedrun- 112%??????????

[formal bough]

It's really impressive to have a 112 route that ends in ... greenpath

and not like pantheon5 or black egg temple

[upbeat escarp]

"You would download a car"

[mint mist]

no better time to get shape of unn than after the credits

[leaden spire]

1 sec

[leaden spire]

silksong

[winter trench]

Tell me how

I’m bored at school

[mellow jolt]

dms, and no leaking :p

[winter trench]

Ok

[mellow jolt]

Or do idk lol

[winter trench]

I’m not going to do it actually

Got a lotta stuff

[mellow jolt]

Kk

[fossil wagon]

thats fast

[cinder anvil]

Hey question (never speedrun a game before btw) I just finished 100% ss and I have a file with 111% on hk been like over a year since that though and I did manage to get 2/3 dreamers and movement upgrades before I hit 10hrs do you think that good enough to try and wing it again with a better idea of royal waterways and deepnest (I got lost a little bit and left it unpaused by accident for like 15mins at one point)

[mint mist]

sorry, the question is “do you think that’s good enough to wing it?”

[cinder anvil]

Yes sorry but if a ramble trying to post as I’m heading into work

[mint mist]

what’s the objective? are you trying to beat the game before a certain time limit?

[cinder anvil]

Yeah the 10hr speed run achievement honestly don’t know if I could have the patience to learn to tackle the 3hr lol
I need the three dreamers and the movements to get to them and then beat the knight to get it

[mint mist]

yeah then i think you can do it on a second run

if you’re going for the shorter achievement there is a guide in the pinned messages

[river axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985794659894829117/1039743031043178606/pins2.png?ex=65b083a8&is=659e0ea8&hm=99e49a3bf5bf82b5411cfab9c1b9b6163246c36233a3d1ff982e4c5dbcc2cb4c&

[leaden spire]

ikr

[frigid elk]

no

[ruby remnant]

yep thats right

[steady lynx]

Hmm, the 112% wr is like 1:13:23, maybe try again to get a faster time

[upbeat escarp]

i cant even do herrrah + monomon normally (not 112%) in an hour flat 🥀

[upbeat escarp]

If hornet was a speedrunner:

[leaden spire]

shud i get a faster time?

[dawn junco]

<@&283547423706447872>

[meager hemlock]

ty mods

[real vapor]

a

[analog helm]

ble

[stark kiln]

where can I find a good any% route for beginning speedrunning?

[vagrant warren]

Join the speedrun server in pins, the most up to date resiurces are there

[stark kiln]

kk thanks

[foggy horizon]

Hotel

[fossil wagon]

yo does any one have tips on how to speedrun or at least some vids that can help me

since this is going to be my first attempt at speedruning

[hazy ledge]

Just finished a silksong Low% TE run, very cool

[barren prairie]

heh

[weary root]

we have a board for that now if you recorded it!

[hazy ledge]

I did not record it unfortunately (16 hours would be a lot of footage anyway), but I do plan on doing more in the future (and hopefully not looking at a route every 3 seconds)

[novel raven]

thats good

[autumn wave]

:D
My best hk run so far :3

[stuck garden]

first time actively trying to speed run and barely got the achievement

[leaden spire]

ez

skong normal ending\

1% comeplete somehow

[hidden sundial]

I think that's WR, you should submit that

[leaden spire]

obv but itll obv get denied

[mint mist]

why

[empty sigil]

why would it get declined?

is it glitched or hacks?

[mint mist]

glitched wr is still several minutes slower

[quiet canyon]

When I did my run I skipped shade cloak and got sub 3 hours

[stuck garden]

I didn't learn how to do the hollow knight without shade cloak so I got it

[quiet canyon]

Me neither I just winged it bc im bad at hornet 2

[stuck garden]

I barely beat it by skipping d-dark to get under 5 hrs

[autumn wave]

Y'all be getting d dark and shade cloak??

[graceful frigate]

is it possible to reach top part of bilewater without double jump

i have tried the jump height increase bug with beast crest

it still seems little short

[steady lynx]

Can't you just like, hit the block up there, like, the intended way

[mossy brook]

I assume it's about this part

Which has very few blocks

[steady lynx]

Oh, I thought he meant the entrance from vault

[static umbra]

yes, with a pimpogo like shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtc55Go55YA&t=51s

[mint mist]

holy cadezek reference

[frozen meadow]

can you still shriek pogo up that one room in white palace?

[mint mist]

yep

there are slopes that kinda push you down, so it’s not super free

you can still get it with a single shrogo, but i usually do 2 of em just to be safe

i’m not very good at shrogoes tho

[dawn junco]

<@&283547423706447872>

2 in a row

[inner robin]

theres a setup where you do 3 walljumps starting where the bottom of the knight is parallel to the bottom of the left wall and then dash at the peak of ur height and shrogo
its pretty consistent

[timber pewter]

how do i noclip

[spark dawn]

Use debug mod

[mint mist]

oh that sounds like the stallball setup

maybe i praccy

tyloki

[obsidian rain]

hello! I'm trying to speedrun silksong in under 150 minutes, and I'm not willing to practice extremely hard skips like craw pogo skip or the frame perfect long jump in blasted steps, should I go mist route or bells route?

[formal bough]

they're close enough timewise that it's more of a matter of what you'd rather enjoy

I love phantom fight over last judge, for example

[obsidian rain]

I was using fireborn's any% guide but I'm afraid that won't work anymore then

any good videos that showcase the route well?

[autumn wave]

Is being AT uumuu in 1h 10m, good pace?(My last speed run was 3h, that's what I'm basing good speed off), and I'm trying to go for 2-2.5h now

-# I personally think I could possibly get 2.5h, but I want other opinions just because :3

[stable quarry]

Depends on the route, but I would aproximate 1/4 of the run is left after Uumuu so seems like 1:30 pace?

[autumn wave]

:0

Just need to not mess up deepnest 🤞

Wait nvm, just remembered qga exists

Even tho I've never attempted it before 😭

It's easy, right???

[stable quarry]

Don't do qga

Learning it mid run is not worth it imo

[autumn wave]

I did the acid skip into fog canyon for the first time mid run?

[stable quarry]

It's consistent after practice but I have lost 3 min to it in a run and going around looses 40 sec

[autumn wave]

Oh, fair enough

[stable quarry]

That one is free qga is not free

[weary root]

yeah this acid skip is pretty easy, qga is not

[autumn wave]

I'll go around then

Only 2 things can mess me up now, thk fight and deepnest

[stable quarry]

And beast den

[autumn wave]

True, but Imo that's not that bad

I gen struggle w normal deepnest then there

[stable quarry]

If you have wings and shadesoul then it's free

[autumn wave]

I do not have wings nor ss

[stable quarry]

Idk what route you use, vs as only damage can make it scary espechally if you try to go fast.

You can allways take your time and heal a bunch though

[autumn wave]

I have upgraded my nail twice

[autumn wave]

So that's some good dmg

[stable quarry]

Twice? I bet shadesoul is faster at that point ngl

[autumn wave]

Oh TwT

I just grab the p ore from cp

[stable quarry]

I got a 44 with shadesoul myself iirc just did a couple runs of that route for fun

Idk if peaks pale ore is faster or slower than basin

[autumn wave]

Idk

I kinda forgot where the other ore's are

Lol

[stable quarry]

Shadesoul looses ~7 min, nail 1 looses ~1 min Idk about nail 2

[autumn wave]

Wait, is shadesoul, the one protected by that boss that's not a boss?

Or the collector, bc I thought it was the collector

-# I haven't bothered to remember these things 😭, and I've only been there once

[autumn wave]

*soul warrior, that's it's name

Just remembered

[stable quarry]

It's in sanctum, protected by a soul warrior

There is a guide on the route I mentioned on speedrun.com btw

[autumn wave]

Oki

Ty<3

[obsidian rain]

I almost just beat lace 1 in 16 minutes, is that good pacing?

[wise remnant]

hmmmm

[wise remnant]

eat more cake

[worldly jetty]

Does anyone know how Silksongs in-game time is calculated? I'm pretty sure looking in the inventory doesn't contribute to game time, but does talking to NPC's count? I cant find any page on the wiki about this

[iron narwhal]

is getting to deepnest in 1h30min good for hk any%

[dawn junco]

you are probably gonna get sub 2h quite easily

[iron narwhal]

but i swear imma mess up deepnest bro i didnt memorize deepnests map 🙁

[mint mist]

<@&283547423706447872>

[steady lynx]

I just tried to ban you out of instinct

[mint mist]

https://tenor.com/view/all-who-gain-power-are-afraid-to-lose-it-gif-22519429

[steady lynx]

(We get these in the speedrun server too)

[mint mist]

from the hot spring it’s just holding left

[grim iron]

money's mine thanks

[iron narwhal]

o ma gad

how do i do thk nail first upg with only shaman stone and vengeful

[autumn wave]

So if I've just beaten uummuu/monomon at 1h 17mins in, how fast do u quick do y'all think I can do the rest? Just saying I WONT be trying qga bc, politely f#k that XD

[hidden sundial]

Just do Spore Shroom route, it's less than 1 min slower than QGA

I think your pace would lead you to a total of 1:40ish

[autumn wave]

Oki ty

[weary root]

It's definitely a hard fight. Focus on learning to dodge attacks and sneak in damage where you can, you'll get there eventually

[analog helm]

ok

[marble drum]

also was grubs ever viable for geo

cz either im thinking crazy or stumbled upon genius

[vagrant warren]

Probably not for any% but it's routed into 112%

[marble drum]

im like thinking cz

viable geo source

and its mostly on path

it would save geo grind in gp

but i know shit about any% so yk

[hidden sundial]

You need quite a few grubs for them to be a speedrun worthy geo source, which doesn't happen on Any%

[marble drum]

yeah prolly

[mint mist]

grub geo is routed for 4ms

but that’s like 100

[hidden sundial]

Yeah and also Grubs are already required for it for the grub MS

So it's more of an extra benefit than geo routing

[analog helm]

help

[thorn jasper]

how is anyone supposed to help you if you don't describe the problem

[analog helm]

nah, the end of question

[thorn jasper]

ok my recommendation is to drink water and eat fiber

[vagrant warren]

also go outside & play with an animal

[hidden sundial]

Don't forget to hydrate and get good sleep

[stable quarry]

Grubfather is the fastest way to get a ton of geo in glitched. We save 1 grub and trick grubfather to give us all the rewards

[autumn wave]

Well, I was on 1h 40pace, then I died with unb strength, then I died to thk for 15-20mins straight, then rage quit, gave up, 1h 52mins in, I have about 2-3 attempts left to get a measly 2h run, which is still good, I think?

[hidden sundial]

That does happen - 2h is still 3 hours lower than the achievement, so it's more than fine. In case you aim for a lower time, you'll get it the next runs

[hexed vigil]

Is this a good time? First speed run btw

[lean moat]

Boo

[marble drum]

hmm

nice

[stable quarry]

You do realize those are two different games right?

[winter trench]

Oh I thought it was HK my bad

[warm sinew]

That's abit over my first win time and i think im slow so idk

[last tusk]

what device u playing on?it doesn’t have a keyboard

[hexed vigil]

deck

[last tusk]

ohhh forgot that thing exists

its extict now

[tight bloom]

as a beginner sk speedrunner should i do bell route or mist route

[hidden sundial]

Bell has a few nasty skips, but mist has the freaking mist

It's a matter of preference but I'd recommend bells if running on latest patch

[tight bloom]

i ran mist my last speedrun but i found out there was no hope after i got clawline in 3h 30 mins

[weary root]

I would recommend bells, the hard skips don't save that much time, you can just go around to start with and then work them in when you feel up to it

[tight bloom]

should i at least do beastfly pogo

[mint mist]

yes

the hard skips they’re talking about are mostly in blasted steps i think

[tight bloom]

how do you do neutral pogo

when i try it its always different from the videos i see

is there a specific strategy for lining up beastfly pogo because i cant figure out how to do it consistently for the life of me

[mint mist]

you just have to not be holding a directional input when you hit the ground, then after you do hit the ground you can repress the direction before you pogo again

[tight bloom]

8 mins for silk spear is pretty good right

i did an aknid skip i learned

[tight bloom]

where are the 5 bells you need for last judge

[mint mist]

marrow, far fields, greymoor, widow, shellwood,

[formal bough]

I like how the scammers have upgraded to "bro [4 images]"

[queen compass]

Any tip for speed running?

[mint mist]

establish a connection with the customer
offload the product
get out

it’s the heist movie of scams

[bitter arrow]

Make conscience decisions as you walk, remember your route and skips if you are looking to do that.

[bitter arrow]

Trying to get through steel soul quickly, and my sanity already started to get to me.

[steep depot]

Mmmmm

[winter trench]

The end got me laughing lol

[acoustic bramble]

[hexed vigil]

Is 4 hrs and 2 min a good time?

[steady lynx]

For what exactly?

Path of Pain? No
112% APB? Yes

[winter trench]

Any%?

I beat steel soul faster

In hollow knight

[coral shore]

<@&283547423706447872>

[bitter arrow]

Just couldn’t do it

But it’s fine cause I’m in greymoor now

[winter trench]

Ok nice

[bitter arrow]

No, I fucking died

And I don’t wanna talk about it

[winter trench]

Oh rip

[autumn wave]

For any% I'd say 2h MAX you should be taking, but depends on category ig

But, GL with whatever it is your running :3

[hexed vigil]

Silksong speedrunner

[graceful frigate]

NO way achow you again, you are the goat

you have helped me so much accross both games since 2025 lmao

[autumn wave]

Feel like I should've done better

But still, new personal best :>

[lilac edge]

Can someone give me a good route for the speedrunner achievement, I'm not good at making routes so I was wondering if someone here has one

In hollow knight

[toxic wigeon]

is 1 hour dream nail+ city of tears a good time?

or am i falling behind on time

[autumn wave]

I got that in my run shown above

So depends, what time are u looking to get?

[toxic wigeon]

below 2 h honestly

[autumn wave]

Your fine

As long as you don't mess up bosses

You should make it

[autumn wave]

I wish best of luck 💗💞

[stable quarry]

I reccomend this guide. Going for decending dark is also valid. https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides/p2d5f

This route is quite beginner friendly and can be pushed to sub hour if you want to go for that later.

[lilac edge]

Ty! I'll try this

[stable quarry]

Gl

[bitter arrow]

Almost happened again to the same guy. I have trash luck

[winter trench]

Dang

Good luck

[bitter arrow]

My gameplay acts like I didn’t just beat act 3 like a week ago

[bleak shell]

Gg

Im Speed running hk

[winter trench]

Ok

[vestal dew]

Anyone have tips for mantis pogo, I cant get it consistent

[lilac edge]

Guys I beat the game in 3 hours and 40 minutes, is that good for a first speedrun on steel soul? (It was mainly for the 3 achievements)

[lilac edge]

Hope and pray you get it thats what I do

[vestal dew]

thats what i do and no one answers my prayers

[lilac edge]

Hope and pray harder

[vestal dew]

alr thanks for the help

[lilac edge]

No problem, hope my advice helps

[vestal dew]

i just tried mantis pogo like at least 15 times and got it once

[mint mist]

are you doing pacifist or killing the lever mantis

[vestal dew]

uhh ive only tried killing it

[mint mist]

alright, then my tip is fireball from the little notch sticking up on the ground

[vestal dew]

i think most of the time the problem is the left mantis is too far to the left for me to hit, like its behind the little wall that sticks out from the ledge

[mint mist]

you really have to haul ass back after hitting the lever tho, it’s not easy timing to get used to

yeah sounds like a speed issue

[vestal dew]

this one?

[vestal dew]

ah okay

[mint mist]

the black thing yeah

[vestal dew]

okay cool

like in the middle of it or to the left or to the right?

[mint mist]

i do middle

some people fireball from a bit further left than i do

[vestal dew]

okay!

thank you

[mint mist]

good luck!

[vestal dew]

i did it within two tries, tysm

[lilac edge]

You guys use a fireball for mantis pogo?

[vestal dew]

ive never tried not using it

[lilac edge]

I've never tried using it

[mint mist]

not for the pogo part, but for killing the mantis warrior yeah

[lilac edge]

Its just 4 or 5 hits so it's not that much faster

But I guess every bit of time saved counts

[mint mist]

pacifist and double dash are the two that i really hear about

i’ve never heard of someone killing the guy just with nail, unless for low% or glitched

[lilac edge]

I usually try to get in a few hits for some extra soul

[mint mist]

this is what i do

[lilac edge]

That's actually really smooth

I haven't really done much speedrunning, so there aren't many speedrun tricks I know

I only know the one to get into fog canyon through forgotten crossroads

[mint mist]

that’s a good one to know

[lilac edge]

Yeah, doesn't it let you skip hornet 2 and going to the abyss?

[mint mist]

there are two ways to get to monomon without skips, shade cloak is one of them

killing dung defender and getting isma’s tear is the other

[formal bough]

(and for a hypothetical skipless speedrun you'd do ismas tear 100% of the time)

[lilac edge]

I did do dung defender but didn't go for isma's tear lol

I went through dung defender to get to double jump for just a bit of convenience

[mint mist]

most of the speedrunning stuff i learned was bc of bingo racing

one of the first skips they’ll teach you is getting isma’s without doing dung defender, bc if you know that one you don’t need to learn any other acid skips

[lilac edge]

The acid skips are cool though

[mint mist]

true

[lilac edge]

I did the one today on my 5th try without any prior experience

[mint mist]

yeah the fog canyon one is pretty straightforward

some of the harder ones are placed at being roughly frame perfect

[stable quarry]

I've never heard about someone killing the guy in low% or glitched I do this

I think Chombert knows but for others like E who doesn't. I run glitched, that is why I don't have dash yet.

[fluid mantle]

does anyone know how steelsoul mode can be speedrunned to defeat that special boss

[stable quarry]

Special boss?

HK or SS?

[fluid mantle]

ss

[wheat breach]

idk

[fluid mantle]

mb wrong channel

[dawn junco]

This is for speedrunning both games

[lilac edge]

<@&283547423706447872>

Get this clanker out of here

[lilac edge]

<@&283547423706447872> another one😭

That wasn't even half an hour

[stable quarry]

We need more mantis pogo variations in here.
I just learned to do this so it's a little scuffed but.

[lilac edge]

<@&283547423706447872> ...

That's the 3rd one

[lilac edge]

<@&283547423706447872> yeah... that's the 4th time

[mossy brook]

Collecting mod pings like pokemon badges

[lilac edge]

I'm just looking in here to see if I can help anyone and I keep seeing these bots

[stable quarry]

How did it go?

[lilac edge]

I used some of the strats of it in a run I had already going and got it in 3 hours and 40 minutes

[winter trench]

Low% skips dash?

[stable quarry]

Any% NMMS

[winter trench]

Did you do fireball stall to get to fungal?

[stable quarry]

But yes low% generaly skips dash

[winter trench]

Huh ok

I knew that they skipped dash in SS but not HK

[stable quarry]

Low% can eiter stallball to fungal or fireball skip over Queens station

[winter trench]

Ok

[stable quarry]

Stallball is faster but only works on later patches

[winter trench]

Ok

and most runners use that 1.3.X.X patch right?

[stable quarry]

For nmg 1221, 1432 and 1578 is the norm

[winter trench]

Oh ok

Thanks

[stable quarry]

For glitched we use 1211 for ag and 1575 for NMMS

[winter trench]

Ah ok

[stable quarry]

1211 allows us to finish the game with 1%

Sadly on 1575 we need dreamnail so 2% it is

[winter trench]

Damn

So is claw the only percent?

[stable quarry]

No the one dreamer is the %

[winter trench]

Huh

[stable quarry]

Getting all 3 dreamers would give us 3% so we just get one

[winter trench]

Herrah, right? And you dupe her, correct?

Because herrah is the only dreamer not locked behind a boss

[stable quarry]

We usually do monomon.

[winter trench]

Oh ok

So UumuU doesn’t give a percent?

Or you just glitch past them?

[stable quarry]

So ag does Mo no mon and NMMS does Lu ri en

[stable quarry]

https://youtu.be/kIaFgFiZR9s?is=zx3NqXuKBjxtD-3g&t=7m7s

[winter trench]

whaaaa

[lilac edge]

i got this acid skip first try without any practice

[stable quarry]

gg

[lilac edge]

Is that one of the harder acid skips in the game?

[stable quarry]

Yes

There are some harder ones like the one in KE but this one is up there.

[mint mist]

sick
yeah i just meant since you don’t have vs yk, its feasible that someone would nail the mantis to death

speaking of you running glitched, it’s been super fun watching your nmms takeover

every day i swear my src notifs are “Ekkoet beat the World Record in Elderbug% NMMS” or something

[stable quarry]

xD Yeah I have been optimizing Gusten's I just want nmms to be faster than nmg runs
I got A1uba% nmms wr yesterday, taking a wr from Staxis even

[mint mist]

huge

[stable quarry]

I have two more categories that I should be able to take from Gusten without to much hazzle

[mint mist]

which ones?

also which glitched cat has been your favorite?

[stable quarry]

We have Zote% which requires dash first and Ghost busters which is just any%nmms earlygame + ghost hunt.

[mint mist]

holy! i love ghostbusters

surely cloth is complicated

[lilac edge]

Is the acid skip to the love key also hard?

[mint mist]

don’t you need shade cloak for TL to spawn?

[stable quarry]

My favorite hmm, I did like 3vf, it's short and sweet. Some honorable mentions would also go to Who% and 4ms

[stable quarry]

Equal to QGA

[lilac edge]

I'd say the one to love key is slightly harder because of the roof there

[stable quarry]

No we just go oob to skip the gate. (I might route in shadesoul idk yet)

[mint mist]

interesting

you oob glade as well?

[stable quarry]

Yes

[mint mist]

ig duping xero for dgate would open the door anyway

ok well gl im very excited to see glitched hive and stuff

[stable quarry]

I will be mostly following Gusten's route as it seems quite good and I didn't find an obvius reroute like in Happy couple (Pretty cool aswell but the last trick is hard and mandatory in my route)

I have been told Ghostbusters are optimal in 1315+ but who's gonna do that

[coral shore]

Thats a 1.3+ thing

[stable quarry]

That is a thing?

[coral shore]

When they added a bunch of optimizations, one of them was not loading bosses if they can't be fought
Like not loading wk if you are coming from above, not loading tl if you don't have shade cloak, etc

[stable quarry]

Does that mean 1315+ would need to get shadecloak and 1028 might be optimal

Oh no 1.5.12558 has come to my switch how do I downpatch

Ngl I feel the lack of inputdelay which is kinda nice.

[winter trench]

That’s insane

[vestal dew]

oml i just got 4:00.1 vs

this game does not want me to get sub 4

[regal flame]

fate

[stable quarry]

<@&283547423706447872> 5th time since beggining to count

[winter trench]

Nice, now do it in steel soul in HK

[viral nacelle]

What is the world record for phone?

[steady lynx]

We don't track that

[marble furnace]

couldn't find this ANYWHERE so thank you so much

[thorn jasper]

holy necroposting

[steady lynx]

I'm almost curious how your search brought you here? What journey have you been on to get here?

[tight bloom]

where are the 5 bells you need to ring for last judge

[pallid scroll]

• next to the marrow bellway
• after lace's arena in deep docks
• greymoor, you need to do the craw arena (or a really hard skip) or cling grip to reach this
• after beating widow in bellhart
• shellwood, right of the blasted steps entrance

[tight bloom]

i think im only missing shellwood and greymoor

do both of them cost rosaries

[pallid scroll]

no

all bellshrines are free

just hit the lever

[tight bloom]

oh

[pallid scroll]

r u speedrunning

[tight bloom]

yep

[pallid scroll]

any%?

or the achievement

[tight bloom]

yeah

achivement

[pallid scroll]

i'd recommend going through mist

[tight bloom]

im getting bored of hollow knight speedruns

[tight bloom]

tried that last run i did and it was really hard

[pallid scroll]

no bellshrines needed, cross stitch, puts you at the grand bellway and closer to cogwork dancers, makes getting sacred cylinder easier and a free memory locket if you wanted that

[tight bloom]

i have needolin in about 55 mins

[pallid scroll]

i choked on it thrice and still had more than enough time to make detours for circlet and injector

you'll be fine

but if you insist blasted steps isnt bad either

[lilac edge]

is this a good time for how far i currently am?

[pallid scroll]

yes

[tight bloom]

by any chance is there a frayed rosary string after the hard skip

[pallid scroll]

yes

[tight bloom]

well i had cling grip and i still did the skip

[prime jacinth]

hello is this good ? (frist speedrun ever)

[dawn junco]

Pretty good

[sudden garden]

I didn't finished Hollow Knight yet, so I think its very good

[lean lava]

how do u see the percentage

[lilac edge]

Getting into the black egg temple

And reading the thing there

[lean lava]

woah

[regal flame]

Is this an <@&283547423706447872> moment?

[south herald]

bro

[steady lynx]

Seems like it was

[lilac edge]

Is 11 hours and 41 minutes good for 100% steel soul run?

[mossy brook]

It's good if you are happy with it

[lilac edge]

I'm definitely happy with it since I got speed completion and steel hearth at the same time

[short spire]

you're welcome i posted it just for you

[polar galleon]

Is 1:40 good if I’m playing on current patch?

[dawn junco]

If you like it then yes

[polar galleon]

I kinda feel like I could do a bit better🤣

Choked in soul sanctum

[regal flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1274175075276423178.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=buhFlipExplode&lossless=true

[fringe gulch]

whats the current path ppl r taking in hk now

[autumn wave]

Kinda depends, for what ending? Any%?
Also, u can probably find a YT vid Abt optimal pathing

But probably smthg like - vs-dash- bench warp to mound- claw -blss/save sly -watcher Knights/dreamer1- stag from king station to stag in dm- buy lantern-get c-dash - acid skip from dm into fc- beat uumm/dreamer 2- then deepnest(probably from spore shroom way)- dreamer 3- stag to thk, win

Just, from the top of my head, that sounds right to me

-# but I'm not that good, so I take detours for nail upgrades, also, I might just be wrong, probably best to yt tutorial it ngl

@fringe gulch

[marble furnace]

I dug through the entire Icons folder for live split and key-worded both hollow knight discords lmao

[violet comet]

Late game doubt

||I've seen some people able to jump again after doing abysmal shriek, but when I try it does not jump again... Is there some trick to it?||

Excuse the spoiler... Copy pasted from other channel

[worldly walrus]

after you shriek, you need to use wings and then pogo right after in quick succession. The timing is pretty tight

[violet comet]

Pogo on?

Oh you can pogo off your shriek?

[worldly walrus]

if you get high enough quickly enough with the wings right before it

[violet comet]

Ah got it.. Thanks mate

[worldly walrus]

good luck

[violet comet]

:D

[violet comet]

Nooo 😭
I have to remake my entire keybinding and practice that for doing this because currently I use the same finger for attack, jump and spell (and dash)😭

[fringe gulch]

any% nmg

[fringe gulch]

thx sm

changed a lot from when i used to run for fun

[dawn junco]

Rn the optimal route skips vs but there’s only 8 runs with that route

[autumn wave]

Ofc

[regal flame]

Well that depends on what patch D:

[dawn junco]

True

But for any% nmg there’s 8

[tawny shale]

Any advice on walljump timings? I'm literally not able to do it as fast as the people in speedruns. Is a full walljump faster or no?

[dawn junco]

Keep holding in the direction of the wall, tap the button lightly as you touch the wall. Full wall jump is slower

If you mean jumping off small walls, dashing before you grab onto the wall makes it easier

[stable quarry]

Walljump timings are all about fast represses and going again asap

Iirc it's just that you go faster the first few frames compared to the rest of the walljump

[dawn junco]

How much total time does fast wall jumps save?

[stable quarry]

Depends on how slow slow walljumps are

[dawn junco]

Def not that much though

Compared to a full jump let’s say

[stable quarry]

I honestly don't know I know that walljumping up spire saves 4 sec over riding the elevator all the way up

And instawings save 1 sec on that climb compared to walljumps

[dawn junco]

That’s the only long climb I think

[stable quarry]

I imagine full jumps might be slower than the elevator?

[dawn junco]

So about 5 secs or less over the entire run?

[dawn junco]

It feels slower than elevator

[stable quarry]

I imagine more than 5 sec, like it adds up, you have city, spire, cpeaks, Uumuu

Beast den also has some height with straight walls

Maybe 10 sec?

[dawn junco]

Uumuu can save a considerable amount

10 secs yeah

[mint mist]

it saves a lot of morale to have clean walljumps

emotional timesave

[stable quarry]

Uumuu has the trip to and out of monomon

Tbh it could be even 20, but I imagine slow represses would be worse than full jump height?

[dawn junco]

I think maybe a bit faster than full jump

[stable quarry]

If your represses take 4 frames then that is 4 frames of falling

[dawn junco]

Should I get into NMMS?

[stable quarry]

Sure, what category

[dawn junco]

How long do you think my runs would be

Any%

[stable quarry]

Any% nmms, nmms legacy?

[dawn junco]

Legacy?

[stable quarry]

Any% nmms is on 1315 now legacy is what I run😅

[dawn junco]

Hmmm

I imagine 1315 runs better on M1

[stable quarry]

M1?

[dawn junco]

MacBook Pro 2020 M1 16GB

[stable quarry]

The new route is likely easier to learn. It's pretty much get dashmaster and dash.
Dupe to monomon get Mo, No and Mon. Kill THK

[dawn junco]

So that’s 1315?

[mint mist]

sounds like ibaldur nmms minus the ibaldur

curious

[stable quarry]

yes

I feel like dashfirst 1028 route is more like ibaldur tbh

[dawn junco]

1315 runs smoother than 1221 but worse than 1578?

[mint mist]

ibaldur nmms gets dmaster and queens before dash

[stable quarry]

Setupless badfloat (frameperfect) into airwalk jump (technically double frameperfect) into 2 superslides, both frameperfect with 50% rng thankfully those only save 16 sec and are not mandatory.

[stable quarry]

No clue, I haven't ran on the patch. Yet

[dawn junco]

It would make sense

[stable quarry]

HK =/= sense

[dawn junco]

I’ll prob stay on nmg till I get a good vs nail1 run

Then try nmms

[stable quarry]

You can run the category on 1578 afaik just looses some qol I think

[dawn junco]

1221 runs completely fine when I’m on my charger

[stable quarry]

I am considdering to run some memes on 1315 once I run out of 1028 meme wr's to nab

[dawn junco]

Without charger my runs rarely get past vs

[stable quarry]

Why do you not run on lp?

[dawn junco]

I like idrop

[stable quarry]

Just curious. Idk what fps you get on 1221 though. I imagine you can do low fps rafters

[dawn junco]

Rafters vf pogo?

Haven’t tried it yet

[stable quarry]

Yes right side

Are you telling me you haven't tried left side or right side?

[dawn junco]

I go up spire to the bench, then go left, open lemm gate, grab rafters seal, upgrade nail, quit back to spire

[stable quarry]

Huh? Why don't you just get the kings stag seal at that point?

[dawn junco]

And then after watchers I go down to fountain, sell relics, right to kings station

[dawn junco]

I get both

[stable quarry]

Oh, but do you need both?

[dawn junco]

I should change the relics a bit actually

I changed routes on Saturday or Sunday

[mint mist]

low fps rafters mentioned

[stable quarry]

The georouting for nail 1 is just grabbing the journal above claw

I prefer rafters skip ngl

[dawn junco]

My georouting currently is baldurs, moss knights x3 + rocks, kings seal, rafters seal, watchers chest and seal then whatever I get from den is probably unnecessary

[mint mist]

that's so sick

[stable quarry]

You don't get any% journal in any%?

[dawn junco]

The one above kings station?

[stable quarry]

Yeah it's my favorite strat I co made

Yes

[mint mist]

you elevator storage televator past the door?

is that what's happening?

[stable quarry]

Yes

[mint mist]

huuuuge

[dawn junco]

So what do I do instead

[stable quarry]

Me and peeka call it televator storage

[gray ember]

that's so clever i love it !

[mint mist]

when is someone ruping multiple elevators and getting elevator storage on all of them so we can have elelelelevator storage

[stable quarry]

You could just do vali journal+ any% journal instead of rafters seal. If your good at mossknights then they are compleatly fine to keep over vfk

[dawn junco]

Ok I’ll try that thx

[stable quarry]

Idk if you can have two elevators stored tbh

[dawn junco]

Sounds much more doable than rafters

[stable quarry]

I should start up again on learning 100% NMMS so I can use this strat in a run.

It's so long though and it has noclip in it

I don't hate noclip but I am not to comfortable with it.

[dawn junco]

Teleport counts as noclip?

[gray ember]

you don't have to do the noclip movement

[stable quarry]

Noclip is what 1315+ uses in all dupes to navigate. And just really useful to not have to bother with walls and stuff

[dawn junco]

Oh wait

[stable quarry]

But then it becomes a longer category

[dawn junco]

Misunderstood the sentence

[stable quarry]

Tbh I have considdered learning the 1028 route instead of the 1114 route. But flukes being op is kinda fun

Like this is clearly why you run 100% NMMS https://youtu.be/1EqTmReNQNY?is=3xagy3n-UGFeNLsv

[gray ember]

what i meant is that if you noclip through a gate with elevator storage, it's not noclip movement as opposed to when you have noclip from a bench or something else and you move around rooms

[stable quarry]

And the georouting is awsome https://youtu.be/eNTtv2GYwVg

[gray ember]

just checked (1578 modded, not 1315 tho), it doesntwork

[stable quarry]

Oh yeah you never have noclip in the televator strat, you just teleport

I literally just walk under the gate and teleport up on the other side.

[tawny shale]

Thank you

[tawny shale]

Ty

[formal bough]

...mechanics?

[tight bloom]

Is vault melody in 2:16 good time?

[forest portal]

yes

thats close to average tho

could save a bit time with wall jumps

[shrewd bison]

Hello everyone, can someone give me plan which help me beat ||steel soul||
in 5 hours please

[autumn wave]

Can I ask why ||ss mode?||

[autumn wave]

And there u go ^

Maybe take a 20min detour for an extra mask? If u wanna be safe

[shrewd bison]

i dont want beat the game two times for two badges and i decided to do both of this badge in one game

[shrewd bison]

maybe

[autumn wave]

Fair enough ig :3

But I just gave u a very, standard speed running route

So it's quite simple to follow, no complex skips

I wish u luck 🤞

[zinc helm]

Why can't I join the voice chat?

[shrewd bison]

idk

[autumn wave]

U need 300 msgs I believe

[shrewd bison]

i need a very detailed plan, can you help me?

[autumn wave]

Or it could be 150, it's one of the 2 numbers

[autumn wave]

@shrewd bison is this not detailed enough for u¿ :3

[shrewd bison]

so

i really bad in speedrun

[autumn wave]

Same TwT

My best run is barely sub 2h

With that route actually, though, I took detour for nail upgrades

[shrewd bison]

i will try

[static umbra]

telling someone to do a shade skip on steel soul is certainly interesting

[shrewd bison]

and later i write where i am

[vale tendon]

salubra's laugh and the shadow's music is actually scary

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1482163316280529048/1483954330657882392/image0.gif

[zenith quarry]

did I notice he is in steel soul

[agile niche]

How is it possible?

[formal bough]

pretty easy with save editing

[agile niche]

Oooh

So mods

I thought it was the real game lmao

[formal bough]

Save editing doesn't require mods, and I could imagine you could mms this?

[agile niche]

Oh, maybe

[steady lynx]

Mmsing a normal save into a steelsoul save is ridiculously easy, you just click the steelsoul button while the save is loading

[left hornet]

Hi, I'm new here and I need help with the Spedrune.

[autumn wave]

@left hornet take your time, maybe get extra masks or unbreakable strength/nail upgrades if you don't feel confident enough

I hope this helps

[stable quarry]

Shadesoul route is also a good option.

[dull sphinx]

I can't do this move and reach the jump? Has it been removed in the recent update?

https://youtu.be/Vst3GuXKAMQ?si=H4M-0iRAWyspaScv&t=405

5 years ago the video was made....

[mint mist]

nope! equally as possible as it was back then

make sure you’re using the quick cast button, which casts on press instead of on release

[dull sphinx]

Sweet! Thanks!

[dull sphinx]

I'm using a gamepad. Is that also possible to do? 😮

[mint mist]

yep! try holding left on the joystick and tapping right on the dpad for really fast turnarounds

[dull sphinx]

Any particular reason this power shot was used and why he re-entered twice after opening the travel bug?

https://youtu.be/Vst3GuXKAMQ?si=UPZ9BAmotqhLn1nh&t=1383

[weary root]

Assuming you don't need the soul it's faster. The spell hits the bell and calls the stag so you don't have to wait for it

[dull sphinx]

oo gotcha!

[rocky robin]

any tips for speedrunning failed champion?

[weary root]

In like a 112 run? Or Godhome?

[peak gull]

I am about to start speedrunning silksong and was wondering where I can find routs for any%

[weary root]

Join the speedrunning server (link in the pins), give yourself the silksong-gamer role, and ask in silk-any-percent or silk-help

[peak gull]

ok thx

[dark rampart]

hi

[mint mist]

?tag permspsa

[river axle]

No tag permspsa found.

[mint mist]

?tag permpsa

[river axle]

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[steady lynx]

I wonder if I have enough total messages to reach the requirements for the role if I dm'd a mod

[mint mist]

surely

you’re like the original ancestor of glitched runners

[steady lynx]

Krythom will haunt you for this, and also Mickely i guess

Is Mickely still around even?

[mint mist]

never heard of mickely

only thing i know about krythom is the krythom plando

[steady lynx]

Krythom is like the og 1028 enthusiast
Mickely ran glitched hundo back in the day

Before I came along and ruined hundo NMMS with doing a triple dupe on 11 14

[mint mist]

thank you for sharing your history

i will pass it on to the next generation

[stable quarry]

When did SavyNov get involved? Seems like they also where one of the ogs.

[coral shore]

this is so funny given I remember when gusten started running glitched

[stable quarry]

Was that after I started? I'm unsure on this

[coral shore]

Pretty sure yes, I think you started doing glitches before me

[weary root]

Yeah gusten used to be a... console runner *shudders*

[stable quarry]

Doesn't some of his console wr's still stand?

[weary root]

Probably, noone runs console

[stable quarry]

I'm not sure if you are literal now or not which is funny. Might be 0 active runners for all I know

[steady lynx]

Ps4 112 is still my record

Also ps4 All Skills and ps4 TE

[steady lynx]

I started with hundo NMMS and then ended up taking over the category

I think we duped like 15 Gorbs back then

As opposed to the hundo AG route which just gets the Soul Tyrant essence 8 times

[steady lynx]

We also actually saved 46 Grubs, that's gone now

[polar hamlet]

@stable quarry just watched some of your videos wow

[stable quarry]

Surely it was a wr right?

[polar hamlet]

Yup

[polar hamlet]

Watched since of the glitches too, you got yourself a new subscriber

[steady lynx]

I thought it was fireb0rn chatting for a moment

[weary root]

same lmao

[fleet jolt]

vamosss

new pb

[peak gull]

Guys can someone please tell me where to find a full guide for the clockels route as I can't find one anywhere