speedrunning

[arctic orbit]

number 5 is 1315 (i like blue)

as you can see

all of my reasons are incredibly valid

so valid in fact that i have rarely done runs on other patches

(ignore my lp runs btw)

[arctic orbit]

except of course 1028 (the glitched races with ekkoet grind is REAL) and 11 14 (11 14!!!!!)

[steady lynx]

Eleven fourteen is good, only patch with balanced flukes

[arctic orbit]

real

but it doesn’t come close to blue 💙

[sturdy glade]

1 hundred & elev f/ goes crazy

[arctic orbit]

mmm

[steady lynx]

Eridan, when will you run the best worst category, Spelless NMMS

[arctic orbit]

one day

i aint really running at the moment sooooo

and when one comes back to hksr he must first run nmg

that’s just the rules of life

[arctic orbit]

i’ve been enjoying walking and sitting more

[arctic orbit]

although lying and manipulating are the best

(double layered homonym joke moment)

[tardy spindle]

good afternoon, I keep getting the white screen glitch every time I get Lurien and I don't know what's causing it, does anyone know the reason why the glitch happens so that I can avoid it?

I play on PS4, 1433

[stuck raptor]

you have to fully stand up and see the moth in bottom right in the room after after seer skip

[tardy spindle]

oh

thanks

I skip the sleep animation by opening inventory, thought I was doing something big brain but apparently not

[stuck raptor]

pausing and getting out of the seer room early is fine, but you will get white screen if you don't see the "saving now" moth in bottom right in the room after that

so yeah, if you're doing something to stop that from happening, you'll get white screen at lurien

[tardy spindle]

gotcha

[lofty flare]

1433?

[verbal stag]

console specific patch

only change is new title screen

[lofty flare]

That is…so weird

[true palm]

It's specifically ps4 compatability changes

[lofty flare]

Is there a skip for mound baldur on 1432?

nmg

[untold vapor]

hey guys, quick question, is the amount of damage dealt to THK the same when it's stabbing himself?

[vagrant warren]

no, it's only 1 per hit during self stab

[untold vapor]

good to know, thanks a lot!

[stable quarry]

I don't think so only thing that comes to mind is the strat where you fireball hit repeat 3 times but that is slower than first spit. Removes rng though

[stable quarry]

That is not true, though nmg is more beginner friendly for sure

And more rust friendly

[arctic orbit]

it was supposed to be more like a joke but yeah you’re right

glitches get you more hyped to run tho

[stable quarry]

Yeah, you should run low% ag

1221 nice time

I wonder what the best glitched meme runs are? @arctic orbit

[visual dagger]

guys what is the thk kill split named?

[arctic orbit]

ooo that’s a good question

i mean myla% ag is pretty good, it’s just a movement il with some fun glitches

i think all the classics like 4ms and elderbug% are fun glitched

[stable quarry]

Some fun glitches aka mms and greatslash early controll

[arctic orbit]

yes

[ocean hound]

Why tf can't I beat hornet fight 2

It's passing me off when I stagger her the first time she spawns like 9 of those spike ball things and it starts to overwhelm me

[vagrant warren]

What categoy are you running? You can destroy the spike balls & can often get them all with just one fireball

[ocean hound]

I still have to much problems bc if I start to focus on those then hornet starts to fuck me up

[stable quarry]

All skills?

[ocean hound]

I think

[rapid nest]

no like are you running all skills

[stable quarry]

I think void

[stable quarry]

No I am running 100% TE nmms practice%

[ocean hound]

This?

[stable quarry]

Høh?

[rapid nest]

since when does all skills get essence

[stable quarry]

Idk

[stable quarry]

Did you dupe xero by accident?

[ocean hound]

Dupe?

[stable quarry]

Yeah like room dupe

[rapid nest]

hate when that happens

[stable quarry]

Me too it makes a ton off lag

[ocean hound]

I don't know what you guys ate asking about

Are*

[vagrant warren]

what speedrun category are your running

[stable quarry]

What run are you speedrunning?

[vagrant warren]

since you are asking for help in the speedrun channel

[stable quarry]

112% apb?

[vagrant warren]

if you're not speedrunning, then probably #hk-help is a better channel for you

[ocean hound]

I need to know why the fight with hornet is so much harder than the first time I fought he for this fight

[stable quarry]

Go to #hk-lore then I guess

[vagrant warren]

Maybe you had a better nail, maybe you'd had a better night's sleep that's not something anyone here will know LOL.

[stable quarry]

I'm a speedrunner so idk why but I know how..

I think they are comparing hornet pretector to sentinel..

[vagrant warren]

oh, might be

[stable quarry]

So the real answer might just be that she doesn't go easy on you this time

[vagrant warren]

but they said "for this fight" so it seemed like another playthru

[stable quarry]

Idk tbh, I though they where speedrunning

[vagrant warren]

They don't have nail 0 so I don't think they are, what category gets a nail upgrade by Hornet 2?

[stable quarry]

None that I know of

[vagrant warren]

yeah, I think they need to go on back to #hk-help

[stable quarry]

I think ever 112 gets like nail 3 just before collos which is way later

[vagrant warren]

yeah, there are a few meme cats that get an early nail upgrade but I don't think any of those do Hornet 2?

[stable quarry]

I mean he might be doing AA

Only one I can think of tbh

[vagrant warren]

you mean All Achievements? yeah, I guess Gusten did route an early nail upgrade into the 2nd file I think? but if that was the case they'd have way more essence because it gets dreamgate early-ish like 112 does in that file.

[stable quarry]

Does all eggs get any nail uppgrades? The 7 eggs seems sus

[vagrant warren]

my rando brain glossed over the eggs LOL

I don't know if all eggs gets any nail upgrades but I also don't see any reason it would fight Hornet 2 ... there's no king's brand or shade cloak locked eggs unless I'm forgetting something?

[stable quarry]

Have you ever painted nail arts on your nails?

[vagrant warren]

No, but I have done Grimm 😄

[stable quarry]

Arcane eggs

[vagrant warren]

ohhh, is that a thing? I thought all eggs just meant all the tuk eggs too

*rancid eggs

[stable quarry]

It does..

Maybe they are doing all relics

[vagrant warren]

Wow, what a pain in the ass category that must be, have to do the blue room for that egg too

[stable quarry]

I routed that category lol

[vagrant warren]

are there notes on hksm?

[stable quarry]

No, I didn't make splits.. I have notes on pastebin

Also features dark deepnest which is fun

[vagrant warren]

dark deepnest is always fun

Is the pastebin linked on the meme sheet or something? Although actually runninng it blind P5BO style also somewhat appeals

[stable quarry]

Also like a 80% chance you can save 5 minnutes by improving the route

[stable quarry]

I can find it for you, it's not on the meme sheet because no one has ran it

[vagrant warren]

I'm not sure if I will run it but I have a lil personal challenge month coming up & it seems like a silly & fun category

[stable quarry]

https://pastebin.com/ueeYG1sv

I would deffinitly want to watch if you end up running it.

[vagrant warren]

thanks!

[stable quarry]

I would probably have ran it by now if long categories didn't terrify me

[vagrant warren]

I've run All Achievements twice

[steady lynx]

I've ran it 9 times

[vagrant warren]

are you going to run all relics with me?

[steady lynx]

Hmm, are there any slopeballs or shrogos?

[stable quarry]

I think this run is around the 2 hour mark

[vagrant warren]

I haven't read the notes yet

[stable quarry]

This was routed before those where found soo

[vagrant warren]

Yeah, 2 hours is fine

[steady lynx]

Then it sounds like a good run

Mid-length

[stable quarry]

If I ran it blind I would estimate 4 hours

[vagrant warren]

Yeah, I still kind of like that idea too, that's why I haven't read the notes

[steady lynx]

Only thing that terrifies me is that there's probably a blue mask rush around the map

[vagrant warren]

especially as an event or something, maybe I could talk math into a blind All Relics race

[stable quarry]

Hopefully it all works out lol. I have double checked stuff but never atchally did a test run..

[stable quarry]

It's not that bad because we get jonis

[cosmic falcon]

has anyone had a similar issue in 1.2.2.1 that after savequitting after the hornet fight u get softlocked at the bench in ancestral mound ?

it also locks me if i pick up soul catcher

[weary root]

Yeah that's a pretty common issue, should be fixed if you clear the registry

[cosmic falcon]

how do i do that ?

[rapid nest]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides/jlten theres a section here on clearing registry

[cosmic falcon]

thanks a lot

[weary root]

Rosie too fast

[cosmic falcon]

and what exactly does it do, do i lose some save files and such?

[rapid nest]

no save data is stored elsewhere

[cosmic falcon]

oh great

[stuck raptor]

You lose system data, like achievements and what game modes you've unlocked

[quartz lagoon]

Hi guys, hopefully quick question. I've been trying to get into speedrunning any% nmg, and while going through the setup process I could not figure out where to find/get either modding api, or debug mod. I might just be overlooking something, but is there an easy place to get these? Or am i just missing something?

[vagrant warren]

Join the server in pins, most stuff should be in the resources channel

[quartz lagoon]

Ok, thank you. Really appreciate it

[dense flint]

hello, I want to learn to no hit but idk the best rute, can somebody send me a video or a explication of that?

[vagrant warren]

I'd suggest joining the speedrun server in pins, there's a hitless channel.

(Although I don't think there's any one route, it really depends on your comfort level what safeties you want to pick up)

[dense flint]

ah ok

[arctic crater]

Is this good?

[mossy brook]

If you are happy with it, it is good

[arctic crater]

I did my new record

1h 1m

[torn glacier]

GG

[steady lynx]

(This is actually any% NMMS record btw)

[sturdy glade]

Holy shit

1.3 on top

[steady lynx]

1.3 has the massive advantage of that you get weird looks from mayo and Staxis

[knotty vigil]

dU DU Du dU

[lofty flare]

Wallcling storage is not only confusing and difficult to both get and properly use, as well as being sub pixel garbage, but it’s also t-ft garbage.

We’re both experienced but we both look so dumb here

Lmao

[steady lynx]

You need a certain level of knowledge about HK for this to even make a tiny bit of sense

[knotty vigil]

oh damn its nb perm

wait no

nvm

[lofty flare]

Pff

[viral pond]

i want to get into speedrunning and i eventualy want to run true ending, should i learn any% first than later swap or should i just start with TE. or is a diffrent catigory more fun?

[vagrant warren]

Fun is subjective - I'd say watch runs, decide for yourself while being realistic about your skill level (most would agree TE is harder than any%) and then join the server in pins for resources on whatever you choose

[viral pond]

k thanks

[stable quarry]

Imo run TE if you want to run TE the easiest category will always be the one you put the most practice in.

[sacred thunder]

People told me that TE was a great beginner category… TE nmms

Though all of it has been rerouted or smt

[analog pawn]

Old TE nmms is a good starter category for glitches

[arctic orbit]

and my stamp of approval

[steady lynx]

I don't need your approval, I need pictures of spiderman

[limber stump]

first time playing in a while and i still beat p5 under 50 minutes i think

yeah it is less than 50

i thought i was washed but i still got it 😎

[desert yarrow]

Abyss Climb in 35.64s with 1 week of practice. Any thoughts?

[lofty flare]

Not bad

[desert yarrow]

Thanks

[lofty flare]

Just simply do this imo

I dunno I’m not an abyss climb runner

[desert yarrow]

That's not allowed in the category

[lofty flare]

I know

It’s nmg banned already

It’s just funny

[desert yarrow]

It's cool tho

[lofty flare]

I got told to TAS abyss climb with it, like an hour after it was discovered

[desert yarrow]

Oh nice, how's the progress?

[lofty flare]

It’s done

[desert yarrow]

Already? Pretty quick

[lofty flare]

Not exactly the same as the IL

[desert yarrow]

What was the final time

[lofty flare]

And could be better

[lofty flare]

43.85

[desert yarrow]

Wow that's cool

I've always been fan of TAS

[analog pawn]

it's slow but looks funny

[desert yarrow]

It does

I've been wondering how quick TAS can be for Any% NMG with no nail turn around and wall long storage

To compare the time for an actual player

Wall cling storage*

[analog pawn]

comsob is 30:38 so faster than that

[lofty flare]

Defo not as fast as normal any% nmg tas

It’ll likely be faster than comsob

But much less so than a minute and 39 seconds.

And tbh I doubt any TASer will want to do that

1 because nyoom is fun as hell

And 2 because it’s not rly smth that needs to exist

[tough relic]

abyss climb peepoArrive your time is good! keep it up

[plush reef]

I go into this channel and I see this. The fuck is happening. Are you attacking your own double jump?

[lofty flare]

No, it’s wallcling storage

Damage wall cling storage only lets you walljump out of it when you face the wall you got it off of

Similarly, it only refreshes dash/wings when you face the wall you got it off of (or tap that direction on a graphics frame because sometimes it moves you in the direction of the wall without turning you around)

So look in the opposite direction, wingsjump, look back.

Repeat

[lofty flare]

No this is the faster version

[west spear]

What's wall cling storage?

[rapid nest]

wait thats brilliant, wogo when

[rapid nest]

game is silly and never removes wall clinging flags which allows you to walljump in midair and all sorts of other things

[lofty flare]

It is time to type a paragraph or 3

[lofty flare]

Nah they’ve gotta discover dive pogo first

Then they’ll discover how to pogo the knight

And then how to pogo wings

And then how to pogo your pogo =D

[river axle]

KittyCatCarnage#1285

Server Avatar

[stone mulch]

What’s comsob?

[stable quarry]

comsob is short for community sum of best

[stone mulch]

Ah okay

[wraith cloak]

is it still possilbe to downpatch to 1221 on GOG?

[wraith trellis]

From what I remember you can email gog support and they should send you the 1221 version

[wraith cloak]

interesting. thanks!

[lofty flare]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides/jlten

there is a section for GoG in this downpatch guide

[wraith cloak]

thanks

[stable quarry]

That section only covers how to downpatch from 1.5 to 1.5 though

[desert yarrow]

Why is no one talking about the new path of pain wr?

It got beaten by 20 miliseconds

[cosmic perch]

Ppl were when it happened in the speedrunning server

[autumn beacon]

speedrun how?

[stuck raptor]

Go fas

[steady lynx]

Speed

[rapid nest]

run

[steady lynx]

[lofty flare]

This is gonna sound crazy

But run

With speed

[grim iron]

kachow

[stable quarry]

What?

[grim iron]

i am speed

lightning mqeen

you know..

[stable quarry]

You look like reese

[grim iron]

:0

reeses puff?

[grim iron]

ohh

[stable quarry]

Join the pinned server to see more

It's Slaurant's cat btw

[grim iron]

no thanks i'm all good

[stable quarry]

Dam using cat pictures to lure people into the speedrunning server didn't work

[grim iron]

it's alright

the cat is cute

[shadow oak]

how to do an acid skip

[stable quarry]

Which one?

[prisma ruin]

Which one

[steady lynx]

Which one?

[hollow violet]

hi guys do you use d-pad or analog stick?

which is best for HK?

[steady lynx]

I just swap depending on which room I'm in

[hollow violet]

And for bosses?

[steady lynx]

Depends on the boss

[weary root]

People use both, use whatever you find most comfortable

[sacred thunder]

Analogue can be a bit troublesome for tight fireballs skips, but you can absolutely just gitgud at them regardless

[hollow violet]

Ok thanks

[stable quarry]

Keyboard

[thorn jasper]

thank you, I love her so much

[random hatch]

i ||kill hornet 1 ||in 26 minutes

[stuck raptor]

[random hatch]

[random hatch]

whitout dying

^v^

[finite flower]

hey does anyone know if QGA is patched out on current patch?

[stuck raptor]

It is not

[brazen bear]

Out of curiosity what you guy's fastest any% speedrun

[steady lynx]

17:14

[stable quarry]

28:44

[rapid nest]

1

[stable quarry]

1?

Wait they didn't ask for the time lol

[rich kindle]

aNY y'all do pop runs

i need tips

mynpb is like 3:30-4:00

pb

i don't rlly want top I just do it to flex on friends

[severe lion]

I DID IT!

I finished my very first proper speedrun of the game start to finish.

I popped off so hard I botched the screenshot.

.

I'm really proud of this even if that number isn't record setting or anything. I was just aiming for the under five hour achievement and any time I was over I would reset.

[stable quarry]

No need to spoiler things here

[severe lion]

Ah, alright.

Any advice on these things?

I was running through Queen's Gardens without double jump, which makes dodgong feel so much harder.

[stable quarry]

learn a setup or do deepnest route which looses 40 secounds

[severe lion]

What's the Deepnest route?

I went Fog Canyon -> Queen's Gardens -> Deepnest if that's what you mean.

[stable quarry]

you fall past QGA go to sporeshroom down into deepnest and then go from deepnest to beast den

[severe lion]

(Skipped the Mantis Lords.)

Is QGA "Queen's Gardens"?

[stable quarry]

QGA is queen gardens acid skip

[severe lion]

Oh. I've seen it but it's real intimidating.

[mossy brook]

Does it stand for Queens Garden Acidskip or Queens Garden Access?

[stable quarry]

Acidskip though we often use it as a place aswell

[stable quarry]

Yeah I would not reccomend going for it before atleast sub hour

[desert yarrow]

For NMG its 39:45

but failed miserably on qga

7 times to be exact

[stable quarry]

And for AG

[desert yarrow]

i dont run all glitched

glitches*

[stable quarry]

Nice I had I 39 where I failed QGA for 2 minnutes straight (NMG)

[desert yarrow]

lol

[stable quarry]

All nerves, I was still ahead of pb out of QGA though

[desert yarrow]

WHAT

how

what is ur pb

[stable quarry]

I'll find it rq

[stable quarry]

Ehm so +4 out of QGA so not ahead but close

[desert yarrow]

that's impressive

[stable quarry]

37:09 atm

[desert yarrow]

atm?

[stable quarry]

at the moment

[desert yarrow]

oh

[stable quarry]

Not like I run this category atm though

[arctic crater]

I finished hk in 41 mins

Omg

[coral shore]

Congrats

[brazen bear]

Good job

[halcyon belfry]

so I'm on another save file just to test some things, and I'm trying to do the lower Greenpath skip with Vengeful Spirit. I know generally what the trick looks like but what exactly should my inputs be?

[stuck raptor]

Use quickcast for spells

Otherwise it's Pretty self explanatory

[halcyon belfry]

So like, I just turn to the right as I'm shooting the fireball and then quickly hold left?

[analog pawn]

Turn right shoot fireball turn left

[halcyon belfry]

Got t

Thx

[analog pawn]

You want to make sure that you only turn right and never actually move to the right

[vagrant warren]

There are some YouTube tutorials that break it down into each step, and also lots of resources in the pinned server

[halcyon belfry]

If I still can't do it then I'll practice more later, and I'll do the squit jump instead for now

[velvet cobalt]

I've been practicing watcher knights for a while and I've gotten Watcher 1 to this
Thoughts or advice?
https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/1qZPh5Eg111cj-/d13373FeCTw4?invite=cr-MSxuaEUsODQ1MzMwODEs

[stuck raptor]

To do what

Oh. Thought you were commenting on the watcher pattern.

You're losing a lot of time stalled in the air by pogoing them and not dashing across immediately after

Overall dps still has a lot of room to increase

[velvet cobalt]

alright I'll keep that in mind

the hardest thing for me right now is fireball triple hit spacing/timing

[stuck raptor]

Biggest overall theme I see is not using dash enough

And not high enough dps. Even without considering triples with FB

[velvet cobalt]

if i pogo dash does that give me enough time to nail/fireball/nail during the watchers nail swing attack?

[stuck raptor]

I'd also suggest watching like the top 5-10 runs to see how they handle different patterns and to see what's possible for damage output

[gentle acorn]

Been feeling nostalgic for this speedrun lately. Hurry up, silksong

[stuck raptor]

Sup, fast

o7

[gentle acorn]

o7

[steady lynx]

Next up Trinomi will revive and escape from the bathroom

[hidden nexus]

hi

how do you fireball skip in garrepath

[vagrant warren]

Short answer: jump, turn around, quick cast

There are lots of tutorials on YouTube and lots of resources in the pinned server too

[steady lynx]

I'm gonna keep posting these here for the joke

[velvet cobalt]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/1rbec2kb6I0Cs8/d1337VV0htCV?invite=cr-MSxaUjMsODQ1MzMwODEs

[limber stump]

DAMN IF I HAD RECORDED THIS RUN I WOULD'VE BEEN IN THE TOP 100

[velvet cobalt]

always record the runs

[steady lynx]

Imagine not recording a record, that'd be funny

[limber stump]

i was just playing for fun and decided to livesplit one

i can do this better next time

[weary root]

If you did it once you can do it again

[limber stump]

[brittle perch]

I don’t know how to speedrun

[green rover]

Same

[mossy brook]

Go fast

[limber stump]

what's a better recording software, streamlabs obs or just regular old obs?

[weary root]

Definitely normal obs for a lot of reasons, but especially for hollow knight because using sl-obs often causes a lot of lag when fighting THK

[silver flax]

They had to do the Speedrun commandments

[steady lynx]

Obs also has a lot more plugins available for specific uses

[limber stump]

alrighty, thanks!

[arctic crater]

I did 112% in 6h 11 min omg

[arctic crater]

How

[steady lynx]

I used the map to know where I was going

[arctic crater]

What type of speedrunning is this

[steady lynx]

glitched

[arctic crater]

Nahh

Ok

You are good

Gg

[steady lynx]

Seriously, it's a kinda fun run

[sturdy glade]

1315 on top is so

[coral shore]

I gotta runback and get 20:14 for equal intervals between top3

[steady lynx]

It's kinda funny how 1221 which is extremely good for NMG is just completely useless for glitched

[sturdy glade]

1211 on top

[steady lynx]

TC should honestly just remove the benched state whenever the Knight enters a load

In 1.5.84

[sturdy glade]

In 1.6 with zote finally replacing the infection and you just hear zote noises constantly

[analog pawn]

Kinda sad that corner float got figured out so I can't make the joke of TC having been trying to patch it out and that's why Silksong hasn't released

[steady lynx]

At least silksong will probably have DI

[analog pawn]

That's a bad thing

[rapid nest]

silksong just patches all the fun glitches and leaves us with DI and airwalk

[analog pawn]

Pls no

[steady lynx]

And somehow superslides

[stable moon]

just because we know doesn't mean they know

[analog pawn]

Can we get the beta superslides

[stable moon]

can they just patch backdashes back in

[sturdy glade]

Silk slides finna be crazy

[stable moon]

most of the code is still there

[tough relic]

we should delete all evidence that we know why corner float happens

so theres still a glitch possible in sliksong

[sturdy glade]

They should have a beta build that you can enable after beating the game that has a bunch of glitches

[analog pawn]

Can't wait for silksong to have landn't

[steady lynx]

Oh right it's on the 1.5 engine

[sturdy glade]

Slaurfall boutta be crazy

[stable moon]

what I love about landn't is that the FailSafeCheck code shows TC knew about it, and instead of fixing the problem just slapped a bandaid on it

[steady lynx]

1.5.84 is about to be crazy

[sturdy glade]

They should add dgate no clip in somehow

[stable moon]

they should build on top of HK so that all the silksong scenes are just in the same room as hk scenes so we can beat silksong in hollow knight

[steady lynx]

They should make entering a load reset the state of the character

[analog pawn]

No more bench storage

[sturdy glade]

They should make closing the map give control imo

[steady lynx]

Imagine if we just went oob in random rooms in silksong and found crossroads

[stable moon]

they should let you pause whenever you want and make unpausing give control

[steady lynx]

Just make silksong have 1028 map mechanics

[analog pawn]

Patch in thorn warp to silksong imo

[rapid nest]

what do we do if silksongs loads arent just floating above the void

[steady lynx]

Imagine if they put walls around the loads

Like they did specifically on the lifeblood door in hk for some reason

[analog pawn]

Alternatively only working oob method is ssoob

[steady lynx]

And DI Oob

[rapid nest]

the only oob method is to wind storage so fast you just ignore collision

[stable moon]

dont be ridiculous, I have full faith in Team Cherry. Silksong will be a completely glitch-free game

[steady lynx]

Btw I legit think IKC happened because they tried to patch the thing where getting hit with thorns and inventory open would softlock the game

[stable moon]

the good news is that if ss is broken on release tc will never manage to properly fix it

and what glitches they create in the process of trying will keep us entertained for years

[lofty flare]

That might mean unTASable but it depends

We will find a way

[stable moon]

there's less clean ways we could use to TAS if necessary

[lofty flare]

Yeah ur prob right

[analog pawn]

there is the elden ring TAS that got made that is just a code going through the inputs and frequent quitouts so it doesn't desync due to fps fluctuation

it's not clean and quite tedious but it works

[lofty flare]

Tho considering the amount of hackery we have to deal with already

Who knows

[steady lynx]

TASing 1432 is wizardry by my standards

[lofty flare]

Yeah

We might be able to use 1315

We shall see

I kinda wanna TAS rando 3

Just find a good seed

[steady lynx]

I hope so, I love 1.3

[lofty flare]

And have TAS beat the game in like, 15 mins

Sub 10 is probably possible with some seed hunting but that would be boring

[analog pawn]

1.3 being optimal for any% of all things is still really funny to me

[lofty flare]

So ig I’ll find out if rando 3 works this weekend

[lofty flare]

Lmao

[steady lynx]

You could just ask the rando devs for the logic it uses with seeding and reverse engineer a seed that has everything in crossroads

[lofty flare]

I plan to do smth that doesn’t require me to leave crossroads/greenpath

I just need dreamers and maybe dash or claw

[analog pawn]

I think the logic may not work that way

[lofty flare]

Hmm

[analog pawn]

with no logic it is possible

[steady lynx]

Probably wings and maybe Dive

[lofty flare]

Well I don’t know who the rando devs are so ig we’ll see

[steady lynx]

Or just abuse RNG to get no light walls

[analog pawn]

I am fairly certain the logic always tries to have a progression of some kind, makes it more interesting

[lofty flare]

I just don’t want a TAS with claw at king’s brand and lurien at the 420 rock, you know?

[analog pawn]

yeah, you can still get a really fast seed

[lofty flare]

Sub 20 is easily possible

[analog pawn]

yeah much faster than that is possible

[lofty flare]

I said easily

[vagrant warren]

there were also Plandos even back then, although lord knows if anyone remembers how to make them that way anymore

[lofty flare]

I just gotta find out whether or not rando 3 works

[steady lynx]

Just like TE NMMS

[lofty flare]

It most likely works 1432 but I don’t know if it works with Linux

[vagrant warren]

There's no reason it won't work as long as you can find all the right versions of the dependencies

[lofty flare]

Oh god

[vagrant warren]

I still had a functional 1432 mod build on my old PC but I don't know if it's one of the things I backed up. Hell, I had a working rando2 build on that PC.

But I still have the vod of my nostalgic rando2 run so if I ever want to do it again I'd just check the versions from that. That may be an easy solution for rando 3 too, just find an old VOD of someone using it

[lofty flare]

The main concern is that I’m not using the regular mod assemblycsharp.dll

[vagrant warren]

yeah, that' could be problematic

[lofty flare]

I’m using one with the modding tool and TAS tools built into it

[vagrant warren]

but I'd assume that's just build on the existing API & adds to it, rather than removing anything mods depend on

[lofty flare]

So far I haven’t had many issues, tribe of battle, decomaster, and all 3 anyrads have worked fine with the 1432_mod build

So we shall see

[sinful tinsel]

https://youtu.be/8pD15fA7alY?si=krFm3dntm0OQ4wpP

yo guys check that

[stuck raptor]

damn thats crazy

[knotty vigil]

I got a question so I’ve never did a speedrun on hollow knight But I’ve always wanted to beat the game under like an hour What do I do

I play switch btw

[past saddle]

Yo speedrunners I had a stupid idea for a speed run Ghostbusters% get rid of all the ghosts is the goal

[steady lynx]

https://www.speedrun.com/hkmemes?h=Ghostbusters-1.4.3.2_NMG&x=zdnozyx2-0nwpxg58.81w6jgml

[sinful tinsel]

i think you must be on pc to use timers

[steady lynx]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight?h=Console_Runs-Any-Switch&x=7dg9e9gk-38do641l.21dd2rg1-p8591z0n.21ggxyo1

[knotty vigil]

No I’m Just wanting to beat it under an hour for fun

Ok I should have said that instead of saying speedrun lol

[sinful tinsel]

watch fireb0rn tutorial on yt very useful 👍

[knotty vigil]

Oh yea tru

alr ty lol

[sinful tinsel]

np :)

[analog pawn]

I think klapudo has a tutorial for specifically Latest Patch

which is what console would be on

[torn glacier]

That’s existed for ages

[simple hound]

Legacy Quickslash isn’t available in Speedrun.com

Are legacy charms even legal for present day speedruns? Because if not, then I see why there wouldn’t be saves for Legacy Quickslash

[weary root]

Yeah charms have to use the cost that they should have for the patch you're on

so no 2 cost quickslash or flukenest on godhome patches for example

[simple hound]

Got it

I’m actually trying to beat a modded boss so uh

Yeah

If you wanna talk about it with me in #modding-discussion then ping me

Actually don’t ping me I have to sleep now

[arctic crater]

Ayooo

[timid cliff]

I wanna try to speedrun

I don't want to go crazy with it, but under an 1H or something like that would be nice

That would be an end goal

[arctic crater]

Nahh

[jagged vault]

Wait what time does this correspont with in IGT

i forget how many loads are in any%

[steady lynx]

That timer is load dependent so it depends on his load times

[arctic crater]

omg blue hi

[jagged vault]

hmm

this is skate's time on end credits

someone who actually got that time (or a similar time even remotely close to this level) would post splits instead of end credits time?

i really don't mean to accuse anyone of anyhting but hmmmmm

[steady lynx]

Check what LP rekky has on end screen

[jagged vault]

also if this is the same person

i mean, very impressive if real

[steady lynx]

Might just have the fastest loads known to man, that's my only possible explanation

[tough relic]

They didn't specify nmg did they

[jagged vault]

true true

would that not get less % though

[tough relic]

Oh look it's gusten the wr holder he might know

[steady lynx]

They could just get more things like VS and Shaman

[steady lynx]

I just downloaded debug mod for the first time

[stray snow]

Is there a “good ending “ speedrun caregory in which you gotta bannish grimm and kill radiance in godhome without killing the dreamers (if thats doable)

[rapid nest]

GE but you just lose a minute to banishing grimm

[stray snow]

Fair enough

[stable moon]

what if we add flower to godseeker requirement so its GE but you lose a minute to banishing but also its more painful

[stray snow]

Thats good

[sacred thunder]

I think you would need to first spend some hours discussion with the #hk-lore peps whether or not that is actually a better ending

[sacred thunder]

considering the track record that this channel has with random people sharing achievements... doubt it

[lofty flare]

Yeah

[waxen crystal]

I don't know how to do a lot of the proper speedruning strats, but I'm pleased with my first under 5 hours run

[swift lance]

monstahs sub 3hrs 112% APB still hasnt been beaten yet?

[lofty flare]

No

[vagrant warren]

It's a solid milestone & only one person anywhere close right now to beating him.

Unless someone is sitting on an unsubmitted offline PB or something

[swift lance]

nice i dont know much abt speedrunning but i follow monstah hes so goated

[swift lance]

gl to that guy

[vagrant warren]

(ping isn't needed, thanks)

[calm timber]

can I make a question?

[steady lynx]

Yes

(Too tired to dad joke today, sorry)

[calm timber]

okay so, sorry if it's something stupid, I'm kinda newbie to this and idk what to do. once I have a succesful run, what do I do with the livesplit?

is it necessary for submitting a run?

[steady lynx]

Optimally you'd just record the game and livesplit in the same obs window, then upload that video to youtube for example and submit that

[calm timber]

okay I have done that, cool

thanks

I'm just very nervous

like the time isn't really great but I'm happy to have done something with it

[steady lynx]

Nobody has ever had an amazing first run of a game, it's fine

[lofty flare]

you just did

[vocal pivot]

Hello everyone....me is Mango! am trying to work on a guide series of HK skips

if this go well i will try to bring one skip a day here for you all rate the difficulty and give opinions about it

i would really appreciate if you all share your vast knowledge about skips! this certainly will make my list grow even more

Thanks for reading

[vagrant warren]

I'd suggest checking out the speedrun server in pins - many skips are documented there

[vocal pivot]

Thanks for the helpful words!

[calm timber]

[frosty token]

Well, that is with the exception of me

[hardy yacht]

Is it a good idea to speed run hk before ever completing it? I need some tips on some speedrun strats

[stuck raptor]

Not usually

[hardy yacht]

imma try it anyway

my best mantis claw time is 14 min and my run usually ends after that since i cant pull off blue lake shade skip

[stable quarry]

Does skips that use glitches count?

[stable moon]

no

glitches are cheating

glitched speedruns aren't real speedruns

[lofty flare]

Wise words

[steady lynx]

Imagine needing to use glitches to finish a game faster

That's not how team Berry intended for you to play

[lofty flare]

Ikr

That’s why TASers are so bad

Imagine needing to use tools in your speedrun

Couldn’t be me

[stable moon]

TAS stands for "terrible at speedrunning"

[past swallow]

But aren’t glitched speedruns harder to pull off than normal speedruns?

Idk I don’t speedrun

[steady lynx]

I've seen the youtube comments, that stuff is not legit ™️

(The joke here is that both me and Staxis run glitched btw)

[vagrant warren]

Sounds like playing the game normally might be faster then since you might actually finish

[past swallow]

The time I’m most proud of is a 5:34 vengeful spirit lol

[steady lynx]

The time I'm most proud of is 1:38:21 in 100% TE NMMS

Even though 1:2x is on the table when we implement Grubfather bullying

[clever sluice]

The time i am proud of is 4 hours and 23 minutes 🤣😂😂

[near nova]

ICE
When did u tie my r5 pb

???

[frosty token]

I umm... Put a little effort and after deciding to finish a run that I got hit by Hu and Hive knight, I managed to finish a run

[near nova]

my pb got hit to sisters of battle

and then went hitless until lost kin LMAO

[frosty token]

Hits are as follows hive knight, elder Hu Zote×2 pure vessel's FAT head hitting me during a stagger absrad

[near nova]

zotex2 is relatable ngl

my pb wassss

sob, lost kin, failed champ, nkg and abs rad x2 (Guess what, any rad made me change the entire boss sense and got hit twice thinking it was any rad :D)

idk how i got hit to njg tbh

i still feel bad for it

and even worse about abs rad

[frosty token]

What's the diff between radiance and anyrad

[near nova]

orbs

[frosty token]

Don't feel bad about being hit by NKG, feel bad about being hit by fail champ (woops hope karma doesn't catch up to me for being mean)

[near nova]

LMFAO

I feel bad for every single hti LMFAO

They were all so dumb

and i cant get another run like that one (ive only done 2 attemps since then)

[frosty token]

Nah lost kin can be like that

[frosty token]

Same ish, the issue is that I got a run exactly like that again and just decided "no" cuz my 9 hot PV also had elder Hu and Hive knight hits

[near nova]

that hurts ngl

if it makes u feel better

my distance pb is elder hu

[lofty flare]

“Terrific at shit-runs”

[vocal pivot]

Depends on how you see the concept of "glitches" Minor ones are acceptable but with major ones i will have to analyse to see if it is fair to put a guide on....maybe for Bonus vids

but for sure this would improve my game knowledge

[sacred thunder]

Well it really depends on what kind of scope you want to have
If you want to focus on "rando skips" as in skips that probably do not have a speedrun use but just use a lot of different abilities in cool ways, then you probably do not want to deal with major glitches (major glitches are a define thing in regards to hollow knight, their is a list of them)
If you want to focus more on skips used in speedrun, honestly I feel like you will very quickly talk about all of the ones from the categories that do not use glitches

[lofty flare]

Well then we get into to the more complicated part of major glitches

Look at wcs, for example, that’s a major glitch some of the time but not always

So it’s kind of like you either leave out glitches entirely, cover everything up to that weird gray area of sometimes major, or just cover all of them

[sacred thunder]

rmg be like

Remember rmg y’all

I swear it was a thing

[lofty flare]

Existed

Was an April fools prank iirc

[vocal pivot]

Thanks for the words

makes huge sense! it is mainly focused on Speedrunning strategies, probably if i decide to do those side ones i will do as Bonus vids

i already recorded 40 of them, but i know there are much much more as you said...gonna search and seek for that knowledge

[lofty flare]

I didn’t know about Hk during the rmg time

Learned about it summer 2022, started playing early 2023

[sacred thunder]

40 ? Oh your are making really short videos then

[lofty flare]

Probably YT shorts

[vocal pivot]

short vids? yeah i am covering them individually 5 minutes can be considerate short

[lofty flare]

Edit those together?

[vocal pivot]

nope i want them individually

[lofty flare]

Also damn 3 and a third hours of footage?

[lofty flare]

A full video with time stamps is probably better

I assume “recorded” is different from “edited and uploaded”

[vocal pivot]

yeah recorded is the original vid

[vocal pivot]

i can try both ideas

[lofty flare]

Uploading 40 videos is probably worse

[vocal pivot]

it is easier to search?

[lofty flare]

Then splitting up a vid into “glitches” “shade skips” “acid skips” etc (or “any% skips” “rando skips” “TE skips”

[lofty flare]

There’s atleast 1 video on pretty much every skip in the game

Compiling them all into a well edited “documentary” that I dunno, explains how to do it, what it’s used for, and who discovered it

Delegating a few minutes per skip

Sounds like a big, but useful project

Probably can’t do every skip

Actually, probably wont do every skip

But you get my point

[vocal pivot]

gonna do something similar but the info of who discovered i do not have any :(

[vocal pivot]

Oh my i saw some clips of literally useless skips and extremely hard to nail....yeah gonna cover what i can find and obviously see some usage for them

[vagrant warren]

Even skips you may consider useless might have applications in meme categories - or rando, which has lots of situations that don't come up in vanilla.

[lofty flare]

Grass% skips are the best skips

I don’t think grass% even has a route-

[steady lynx]

You know a category is good when it doesn't have a board on src

[lofty flare]

U are correct, but I swear it used to

[sturdy glade]

Agkx3 on top fr

[steady lynx]

I'm a big ||fan|| of "No benches"

[sturdy glade]

C'mon gusten

This is a public server

Censor yourself

[steady lynx]

I'm not writing it like that

Okay there you go

[sturdy glade]

Thank you

But fr every category that isn't agk and is on the memesheet is goated asf

[steady lynx]

Agk was a good idea

Too bad it's just not fun to run

[proper island]

how difficult is speedrunning under 1 hour?

[steady lynx]

I'd say like 4/10

Will take a tiny bit of effort but most should be able to manage it in a few days

[keen siren]

how hard is it to beat the game in 5 hours without any skips

[analog pawn]

Not very, as long as you have a somewhat planned out route you can beat it a lot faster than that

[keen siren]

is it like speed completion where I got the achievement accidentally?

or do I need to try?

[stone mulch]

You kinda need to try

[stable quarry]

You could take some inspiration from Blossom
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7dXvvR7Ohco2Hs91_9K-yQ6Gusll6_62&si=eTZobk9_chHaSRHJ

[vocal pivot]

Oh lots of variables of skips! Really appreciate your help Thanks

[lofty flare]

Dear god I’m still learning more about wcs

Turns out cdash/liquid wcs will walljump in the direction of your most recent walljump, which, depending on your movement, could be half an hour or 5 seconds ago.

Thanks, CC.

[stable quarry]

Interesting..

[lofty flare]

#835695753686024236 message

Scroll down from there

[stable quarry]

I'll go to sleep maybe tomorrow

[lofty flare]

K

Gn

[stable quarry]

[lofty flare]

[fading sun]

I FINALLY DID IT

I BEAT STEEL SOUL IN UNDER 10 HIURS

WOOOO

[fossil cedar]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TAz2Oy0sYO8?si=GgQ-z-lhQ8JqQ0Td

[real matrix]

ayyyyyy congrats

[past swallow]

Well, i died in steel soul in under 10 hours!

There should be a category for dying in steel soul

Fail%

I’ll get world record lmao

[stable quarry]

That is not the only wcs that behaves like that

#822611646987894784 message

Well staxis was right.
https://youtu.be/phqG6auV0Fg

@vocal pivot The first skip is on 1.5 and the other two on 1221 there are a bunch of skips like this if you want to add some.. https://youtu.be/8Q6y47oMfoQ

[lofty flare]

Isn’t that just corner?

I pinged CC in TASCord, we’ll find out

[stable quarry]

Well it works differently than corner, but also yes it is

[lofty flare]

Ekkoet does wcs QGA in a run when?

I mean, it wouldn’t break topology

[stable quarry]

When I feel like it is worth to loose 20 secounds for it

[lofty flare]

Lmao

I think it’s slower to regular qga because you can’t do kwats

[stable quarry]

I forget what kwarts is lol

Right tiny speedbost turnaround thing

[lofty flare]

Left and right every physics frame

Misclicked a picture of my dog-

[stable quarry]

Dog

[lofty flare]

Kwats stores all 20 dash speed

Left and right every frame (graphics and physics) can store up to all 20 but sometimes less

And just holding towards the wall stores the least

[stable quarry]

Least?

[lofty flare]

least amount of speed

I forget how much it stores bc I don’t do it in TAS

[stable quarry]

Doesn't holding both also store 20?

[lofty flare]

It can

But the little speed boosts from Kwats and the fact that it stores up to 20, and as I said, sometimes less, makes Kwats slightly faster

So for humans, wcs qga probably loses to cdash, if we’re saying you can get either one first try

But I dunno

[stable quarry]

I'd say they are about equal in difficulty

[lofty flare]

Oh also you need to get wcs in the first place, and while TAS can just walk into the corner, humans take a few tries for that

[stable quarry]

Not on qga, you just dream nail drop/ inv drop and your set

Should be first try most of the time

[lofty flare]

Ohh right

You have shit by then

[stable quarry]

I could time it later, might be slow because you walk to the ledge

[lofty flare]

Any% wr does wcs qga

when?

[stable quarry]

Never lol, we don't have dashmaster in any% and without dashmaster wcs qga is tas only

[lofty flare]

Could you get a left walljump, get corner wcs off of a platform above the acid, turn it into cdash wcs, and then just dash right and walljump off a left “wall” over the acid?

[stable quarry]

Idk, might test later

[stable quarry]

Not sure what you mean here tbh

[lofty flare]

1 sec

Sorry for the terrible handwriting

But would that make it

If you wj off a stored left wall

You could dash again to the other side

And probably make it

[stable quarry]

I think that would work yes, I though we where talking about this though

[lofty flare]

Nah I’m talking about cdash wcs

Maybe “platforms” was the wrong word

[stable quarry]

I think that should work you can even cdash stall to make the timing easier

[stable quarry]

This?

last walljump was left wall

[lofty flare]

Yep

[stable quarry]

that was really wierd for me to do..

[lofty flare]

Oh wait cdash wcs can switch wall direction iirc, if you’re dashing after getting it, I don’t think the last walljump needs to be left

[stable quarry]

??

[lofty flare]

I don’t know, ignore me

Can you try that same thing without the left walljump and tell me what happens?

Just do a right walljump instead

[stable quarry]

so with right?

[lofty flare]

Might also be possible to s+q and if you do no wjs on the way

It could be neutral

But do right just to be safe

[lofty flare]

I see.

So it doesn’t matter the direction the cdash “wall” is facing

The wj will always be the same as your last one

Thank you

[stable quarry]

No wall jump since sq

[stable quarry]

It does indeed

[lofty flare]

Ooh

Neutral stored wjs

[stable quarry]

I do have a clip if you want but considering I sq between attempt, I didn't bother cutting it together

[lofty flare]

Can you test

Does that just wj in the direction of the cdash wcs?

So move away from the wall, get cdash wcs, dash twice, and see if it’ll now be a right wall wj instead of left wall

Bc the wall is on the right

[stable quarry]

It literally does a neutral jump..

[lofty flare]

Oh fuck-

I’m dumb

[stable quarry]

I was holding right so I whent right

[lofty flare]

To be honest it’s kinda hard to see bc ur covered

[stable quarry]

https://youtu.be/BRsul4beIBU

[lofty flare]

Thanks

[vocal pivot]

:D
The acid skips without Cdash neat gonna take them

[grand siren]

hey is it possible to do e pogo without dash on current patch?

[steady lynx]

Yes.

[grand siren]

oh awesome

do i just have to damage tank it?

[steady lynx]

On the leaderboard under low% 1432+ NMG there's runs that do it

It's considered one of the harder NMG tricks to do

[grand siren]

well i've been challanged to do reverse hornet order in steel soul so i just gotta suck it up and keep trying lmao

ill check out one of the runs

TY

[steady lynx]

There's also a fireball skip over the acid pool on the right side of Mantis village which might be easier, but still difficult

[coral shore]

It is worse

Idk about strict difficulty but it sucks

[grand siren]

yea i looked at that and just

wanted to cry

[stable quarry]

I don't see glitchless in this restriction

[keen sleet]

i was just goofing around with random charms and bosses and this happened has this happened before? and if so how did it happen

dont know if it would help with speedrunning ever but its just a goofy glitch and wanted to share it

[stuck raptor]

It's an AI break. Happens randomly.

[keen sleet]

Hmm

Okey doke

[stable quarry]

Doesn't he usually walk into the wall?

Also it's just faster if that doesn't happen btw

[keen sleet]

Oh lol

[stable quarry]

In combat il's it's also banned but it loses enough time where most people would reset anyways soo

[keen sleet]

Okey doke I thought so I just thought it was funny and wanted to share it somewhere

[stable quarry]

I have atcally not seen that break in particular. So was cool to see ngl

Also yet to have that happen to me in game

[steady lynx]

Soul Master is just very jank so, we might just never see it again

[stable quarry]

Soul master?

[steady lynx]

Soul Warrior*

[keen sleet]

Yeah that was the first time I'd seen anything like it

[steady lynx]

I just got home

[keen sleet]

Ooh talking bout this glitch reminded me of this one i found a while ago (excuse the editing please it was from a lil while ago also the bigginingof the video is after the glitch happenedthen I watch the clip of what happened) https://youtu.be/g-Lnh4_UpHg?si=kCvqVRz-5cBNFjYW

Also not sure if it would ever be helpful in any situation or if its known of already lol

[stable quarry]

Knockback storage

[steady lynx]

Someone actually posted this in the speedrun server way back then

[keen sleet]

Nice

[stable quarry]

I did send a clip of staxis doing it intentionally which could be useful for any% / te nmms #hk-general message

[keen sleet]

How does it work?

[stable quarry]

Ehm, let me find staxis's explanation because I usually forget the day after I read it considdering it's way to cursed for me to considder doing in runs..

[keen sleet]

Ok lol

[stable quarry]

Join the pinned server and read.. #836364657387503676 message

[steady lynx]

It's also kinda annoying to find actual uses for it

[stable quarry]

If you find a place where it is easy to try out then I would considder trying it just for fun, but kp seems like an anoing place to try it tbh

[keen sleet]

Very cool glitch:0

[stable quarry]

New glitch runner

[keen sleet]

No that stuffs to precise for me I'd get way to frustrated trying speedrunning

[steady lynx]

We need someone to beat me in 100% NMMS

[stable quarry]

Working on it

[lofty flare]

Later

[keen sleet]

I wanna try speedrunning some game someday but not games like Hollow knight

[stable quarry]

Just gotta learn the route implement bullying somehow and boom

[steady lynx]

I've labbed some stuff, including Sharp Shadow movement

Turns out Shaman Stone is kinda useless for a lot of the run

[stable quarry]

You should try smg 1 that was my first speedrun, only took me 7 hours to beat the game

[keen sleet]

Whats smg 1

[stable quarry]

Super mario galaxy

[keen sleet]

Ah

[stable quarry]

I still love that game..

[keen sleet]

I have the game but I've barely played it lol

[stable quarry]

I have 200% ed it twice..

[steady lynx]

I really like Super Mario Galaxy, so I'd never speedrun it

[stable quarry]

Lol

[keen sleet]

Yeah I'm not the kinda guy that plays games like that I usually just get an ending to the game and if its reaaalllyyy good ill go back for the big side content

[stable quarry]

I am the type of player that falls in love with a game and then that game is the only game I play for months..

[keen sleet]

Thats only happened to me with tears of the kingdom lol

[stable quarry]

Really makes some games last a long time. Like hk I'm 1500 hours in and I feel like I can go 1500 more..

[coral shore]

i too love hoping for gruz to hit me in a specific spot

[stable quarry]

I don't follow lol..

[steady lynx]

I actually just passed 1k on steam the other day

[keen sleet]

Yeah I mean in my 2 favorite games (totk and hollow knight) I've made alot of my own fun but I ain't gonna 100% them because I think msking your own fun in most videogames is more fun then the pre-made content

[keen sleet]

The game I've got the most hours in is tears of the kingdom and I've only got 300 :0

[stable quarry]

I agree which is why I beat totk and now I am doing a no paraglider playtrough

[keen sleet]

Yeah I beat every boss with only the pathetic earthwake ability and that was a blast

The demon king ganondorf fight was like an hour and 15 minutes

[stable quarry]

Earthwake? You mean dive?

[steady lynx]

I also have 31 Hollow Knight installs

[keen sleet]

The ability you get from the yiga clan

[keen sleet]

Its called earthwake have you not gotten it

[stable quarry]

I don't think I have found that tbh, only got auto build from them..

[coral shore]

to do grubfather bullying you need to go oob in one spot and like with control so you would have to go oob by getting hit into transition and then getting hit again

[keen sleet]

Well then I won't spoil what it is lol

[stable quarry]

Lol

[steady lynx]

Btw, I've already made a full route for if Grubfather bullying on 1114 becomes consistent and stuff

[stable quarry]

Oh, dam

[steady lynx]

So as soon as you find a way

hmu

[stable quarry]

Hmu

[coral shore]

hit me up

[steady lynx]

I'll have the first sub 1:30 100% NMMS run tho

[stable quarry]

I intend on getting sub 2 hour before looking into that though. Not sure how long that will take though

[keen sleet]

There is one thing I've been doing in hollow knight recently I've been trying to beat every boss with only the defenders crest and I am scared to fight uumuu and flukemarm not even sure if flukemarm is even possible tbh

[stable quarry]

Ehm, fun..

Uumuu will just take for ever, flukemarm will need dodging skills 1000

[keen sleet]

The weirdest thing I've discovered is massive moss charger doesn't take damage from defenders crest meaning they are fully impossible

[steady lynx]

You should dnail Flukemarm, it's fun

[keen sleet]

Yeah

[stable quarry]

Isn't that a 1xxx only thing that flukemarm goes bye?

[steady lynx]

It's funny

[stable quarry]

True

[keen sleet]

But every boss takes forever nosk took an hour and a half 💀

[stable quarry]

And you call that fun?

[keen sleet]

Yes:]

[stable quarry]

Go do low% te..

You have the patience for it lol

[coral shore]

As opposed to 2xxx

[keen sleet]

Yeah I might honestly

[rapid nest]

:clueless:

[stable quarry]

I play on 5xxx wdym

[stable quarry]

What did I just do..

[coral shore]

damn Ekkoet got early access to Silksong 2: Electric Boogalo 2: Electric Boogalo

[stable quarry]

Nah I'm playing hollow knight: Zote's honor rn

[keen sleet]

You know whats gonna before fun markoth because guess what defenders crest does 1 dps markoth has 650 health eich means it would take 10 minutes to beat him IF he just stood still right next to the stink and had no attacks so ill probably have to fight markoth for an hour +

[stable quarry]

You know what would be fun.. getting flukes and obliderating markoth in 2 secounds

[keen sleet]

Thats to easy

I'd rather be stuck in purgatory for an hour

[steady lynx]

Hollow Knight

[stable quarry]

Or you know failing a shadeskip over and over anything but killing Markoth with your feces..

[stable quarry]

I love flukemarm no clip

[steady lynx]

If you could dnail her downwards she'd hit the acid and instantly die btw

[stable quarry]

Dream pogo o.o

[steady lynx]

Wait no, that's water right

[sturdy glade]

get tilted imo

[stable quarry]

Wait 1211?

[steady lynx]

Water kills everything anyway

[stable quarry]

I assume pogoing her on 1211 doesn't make her move..

[steady lynx]

This might take a moment

heck

Getting tilted didn't work

[stable quarry]

Can you place a bench more tilted for sience?

[steady lynx]

Funny way to get WCS tho

[stable quarry]

Lol

[steady lynx]

I like how it just scews the knight

[stable quarry]

Scews?

[stable quarry]

That's way to funny, any way to route that into a run o.o

[steady lynx]

I'm having too much fun with this

[tribal igloo]

No fun allowed

[stable quarry]

That's a big jump lol

[thorn sundial]

Not sure if this should be here or in #hk-help but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
If I beat my PB before the last submission gets verified, is there a way to, idk, tell the moderators that the now-outdated run can be lower priority? I've been making progress pretty fast and have four runs pending that don't need verification anymore

[stable quarry]

They just verify the fastest..

[steady lynx]

When we verify a run and we see that it's outdated we just watch the currently fastest submitted one fully, check so the obsolete ones have the essentials and verify all of them

[sturdy glade]

There should be a mod that just constantly tilts you

[steady lynx]

It's called fighting Uumuu

[sturdy glade]

Then I want a mod with uumuu loaded at all times with inf health

[thorn sundial]

Enemy "rando" but with only one option?

[steady lynx]

Is it really enemy rando if there's not 20 Enraged Guardians for no reason tho?

[sturdy glade]

Trinomis can spawn but they're 1211 trinomis

[past swallow]

No you don’t

[sturdy glade]

How about you stop telling how to live my life

[shadow zephyr]

Errr

Just go faster

Fr

[steady lynx]

I've been telling people that for years, they never listen

Same with hitless runners when I tell them to just not get hit, idk why they never tried that

[stable quarry]

And glitchrunners just don't softlock

[steady lynx]

It's honestly your own fault if you touch an upwards load in noclip

Wait why am I even awake

[knotty vigil]

are mods that only mess with controls allowed in speedrunning?

[stuck raptor]

No

[stable quarry]

On the modded boards maybe

[knotty vigil]

figured. might as well ask

[stable quarry]

Socd cleaner is allowed though

Idk what mod your refering to tbh

[steady lynx]

You can also rebind controls, just don't rebind directions to a mouse

[knotty vigil]

a mod that stops you from casting spells with the heal button

[steady lynx]

It's not a rule or anything against it, but it's just an awful idea to do it anyway

[stable quarry]

I would love that to be vanilla

[knotty vigil]

yeah...

[steady lynx]

Yeah, idk why they'd make the focus button also cast spells

[stable quarry]

Not that I touch the focus button much anyways, it's like one of the least used buttons when speedrunning

[steady lynx]

But for the main and meme boards your run will be rejected if you even have modding api installed

[stable quarry]

Healing just takes ages for no benefit

[steady lynx]

It's useful for dreamers and to finish the run

[knotty vigil]

i dont do speedrunning, but i wanted a general idea of whats allowed in community events like this, so i figured id ask here

[stable quarry]

You might get this allowed for stuff like qol any% and all geo rocks on the modded board

[stable quarry]

What event?

[steady lynx]

It also removes transition storage, which is useful for at most 3 people at any given time

[knotty vigil]

poh all bindings and anyrad

by "event" i meant that kinda stuff

[stable quarry]

Should be fine for anyrad as that is a mod..

[rapid nest]

for non speedrunning challenges people dont really care about mods

[steady lynx]

You'd probably have to ask the communities around those things

[knotty vigil]

fair enough

[stable quarry]

Poh all bindings I doubt any one will care unless you submit it as a speedrun

[steady lynx]

Speedrun rules don't really directly apply to anything outside the Speedrun stuff so

[stable quarry]

For some wierd reason I don't get to break the nmg rules in bingo

[steady lynx]

You should do it anyway

[stable quarry]

I might do it as a joke sometime lol

[steady lynx]

Just find someone who's willing to do a glitched bingo race

[stable quarry]

Or when doing bingo with a glitch runner o.o

[steady lynx]

Tbf it'd likely just be get dreamgate ASAP and rush to get goals

[stable quarry]

I would most likely just get benchstorage and rush claw and then play mostly vanilla with some boob, because I am not confident in my noclip movement..

[steady lynx]

If you limit the goals to just stuff possible on 1028 you might even get to have fun