sk-discussion-2

[gilded magnet]

thats kinda iffy

its only in a chapel, and theres a second beastfly thats more memorable [and painful]

[torpid fog]

If it's about having a boss at all, it counts.

[gilded magnet]

the whole thing is kinda disconnected from hunters march, too
i wouldnt really consider it a boss of hunters march

[torpid fog]

||Father of the Flame|| is not memorable either, imo.

[gilded magnet]

its weird.

its HELL of alot better than ||plasmified zango||

[idle latch]

It's kinda unique if you think about it, just his whole gimmick of dealing damage and it fighting you just by spawning things in is cool to see

[gilded magnet]

proper arena! unique boss style! a theme! a drop!

||father of the flame|| is weird, but its better than ||zango|| by a LONGSHOT.

wormways in general needs more.

too small. too little.

[hollow yacht]

Can someone give a map of all %'s in act 2

why is gng censoring spoilers

[rigid cypress]

I think Wormways is not lacking in content tbh

Like I do understand the not having a boss issue but it has stuff

[frosty shoal]

"exploration and fighting bosses". so specific lol
I have like ... 1 build.
CogFly** + Plasmium*, SharpDart, Wardingbell + Longclaw + (Multibinder), Dead Bug's Purse + magnetite brooch + (Ascendant's Grip)
Use it on Hunter or Reaper. For Architect's, replace sharpdart with silkshot or throwing rings

*: Not a addict, just to prevent death and/or unoften OD when applicable
**: Not very fluent in tools; as braindead as possible
I dont use reaper that often, even though it carried late act 1. Longclaw + Architect is very useable, and have similar reach

[cursive cloud]

is lost lace in 18 tries with a very random build decent or am i ass?

[frigid knoll]

Nah it’s a tough boss ur good

Don’t let ppl try to shame you with how May tries it took you

[true hare]

That is the only build I use

[dense moon]

yall should I like 100% complete silksong before lost lace so I don’t find her as difficult?

[cursive cloud]

thanks

[frosty shoal]

oh so you beat her in 18 tries
sounds about ok

[cursive cloud]

Im at 65% and she wasnt that bad I mean took me the most tries but

[frigid knoll]

I honestly don’t think it matters much

[hollow yacht]

Can someone give a map of all %'s in act 2
that's too much woorrkkk

[frigid knoll]

Just Google a completion map

[frosty shoal]

@hollow yacht this

[dense moon]

I wanna do this because everything in act 3 is just so annoying and I almost quit the game until I realised I could just “git gud”

[cursive cloud]

I mean if shes the hardest boss in game ig its gonna be easy now right?

[frigid knoll]

I genuinely can’t wait for dlc bruh

[frosty shoal]

I have a friend that rank Karmelita above her

Stating that lost lace's attack pattern is very repetitive, though it is adaptive

[frigid knoll]

I need a harder boss

[frigid knoll]

The problem is the sheer variety of attack patterns and how much they overlap, especially in later phases

[dense moon]

everything about difficult games is subjective,
In silksong no matter if you have a good build lost lace is still challenging and generally just completing the game 100% then getting the final ending is just a sweet finish to a beautiful game

[cursive cloud]

I did karmelita in like 6 tries I rlly liked the fight tho

[frosty shoal]

how interesting. Maybe he is as patient as I am
Not sure if lost lace spam cross stitch, but if she does, just dont hit her lol
Though her cross stitch can be used to get a opening and attach from behind

[cursive cloud]

Id say lace is harder but I think I would have gotten her in 12/14 tries if not the fact that i was dashing into her all the time cuz I was just impatient

still more than Karmelita tho

also how many masks can u get in act 3?

max

[frosty shoal]

10, 5 exstra
In act 2 you can get 9 masks and no extra shards

[dense moon]

pretty sure there is 4 or 5 extra mask SHARDS

[dense moon]

How many masks did you have for these bosses?

[cursive cloud]

7

thats the max?

no wait cant be the max

8 then?

[frosty shoal]

In fact you can get 8 masks pre cogwork dancers

[dense moon]

I hadn’t gotten a single extra mask until before gms

[frosty shoal]

act 1 give you 1.5 masks

[dense moon]

That bad?

[frosty shoal]

No, its just ... perhaps you really good at fighting

or have very strong mental will
Or is just dumb 💀, and will repeatedly throw himself at wall until wall breaks

[cursive cloud]

huh

[dense moon]

so uh, I’m really good at fighting but the boss that took me the longest to kill was uh ||g m s||

[cursive cloud]

ts would be free with 10 masks

[dense moon]

I still don’t get how people call her easy

[cursive cloud]

whats the wole boss name

[frigid knoll]

I first tried gms and got it third try cursed

[dense moon]

And apparently savage beastfly and growl are hard bosses? Beat them both in 5 attempts…

[frigid knoll]

Grandmother silk

[dense moon]

abnormal bro

[frigid knoll]

Groal took me ~30 tries I think

[cursive cloud]

ohh

[dense moon]

he’s a decently hard boss? But he is just so easy with tools bro

[cursive cloud]

yeah she was kinda free

[dense moon]

And he only has 3 attacks

[cursive cloud]

tools make him free and a 40 sec fight

i have almost no tools tho

[frigid knoll]

I did it pretty early act 2 so all I really had that was good against him was curveclaw

[cursive cloud]

how do u get that

[frosty shoal]

not too surprising. She has lots of health

[dense moon]

Ty for standing with me bro

[frosty shoal]

though if that include act 3 bosses, ehh 😳

[frigid knoll]

Ant dude in hunters March if ur in act 1 or VERY early act 2, or grindle in blasted steps

[dense moon]

any single enemy gauntlet in act 3 just becomes unplayable bro

[cursive cloud]

btw where is the architects crest door

cuz i bought the key

[frosty shoal]

its somewhere close to her. no cutscene/fade-in-out required

[frigid knoll]

Up and left from archi tect

[cursive cloud]

got it

[elder hound]

Speedruns are tougher tgan I thought 😭

[naive cave]

Literally unplayable! I didn't get the Craw Summons! How could Hornet know this????

I demand a refund 🤬

[mental thunder]

Hornet miraculously deducing the Cogwork Clappers function through vibes alone:

[naive cave]

Funny how you can kill this one without being there lol (It can also kill you through walls)

Hell man, you scared the shit out of me 😭

YOU CAN GET HIM TO SING HERE

[manic knot]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

[broken zenith]

if we finished act 2, can we finally access all areas of the game?

[naive cave]

After you get a certain act3 ability, yes

[south plank]

everything is easy with tools

[torpid fog]

He's not too hard, just finicky.

Playing the lower platforms is the best way to damage him, but doing so feels scary because of the water, and some of hits attacks get a little harder to dodge when you're low down and near him.

[dense moon]

Yo can anybody join these silksong chats im bored af

[tawny basin]

Anyone know if 62% is the Max % you can obtain in Act 1 without Major Glitches?

[rigid cypress]

Seems to be.

[crude badger]

Bro, the god pantheon is too hard

[fallow nexus]

Getting right in the water is the way to do it

The "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strat

[coarse rampart]

Define major glitches

If you don't count whisp thicket enter a major glitch, max is the same as max for act 2

[tawny basin]

you still get Act 2 from that entrance once you reach Choral Chambers where you meet Lace

[coarse rampart]

Unless they fixed whisp enter not triggering act 2

[coarse rampart]

Then just don't enter that room

[tawny basin]

well it locks you out of Choral Chambers and by extension the rest of Citadel

[coarse rampart]

What room is the lace meet up in choral chsmbers?

[tawny basin]

if you enter from Wisp Thicket, it activates Act 2 similar to how it does from Phantom Entrance, just right before you meet up with Lace

[coarse rampart]

How would you get there from whisp thicket?

[tawny basin]

Underworks

[coarse rampart]

Thatd only be the left one

[tawny basin]

yes

[coarse rampart]

Youd be at grand gate lace not phantom lace

[tawny basin]

im confused

[coarse rampart]

Is there anything stopping younfrom reaching memoriam from ducts from bilewater?

[tawny basin]

yes, breakable wall from the other side outside of Apostate Key

[coarse rampart]

Riigjt

[tawny basin]

if you could reach Ducts from Bilewater side, all of Citadel should be open as long as you avoid those 2 rooms

[coarse rampart]

I could've sworn i saw a video a bit ago about having the silk and soul goal and act 1 goal

[tawny basin]

i dont think its possible to break it from the other side

[coarse rampart]

Oh nvm

[coarse rampart]

The thing I'm thinking of uses noclip at said break from other side door

[tawny basin]

yeah, Noclip is actually possible in Act 1 but its a major glitch and i dont like using those

[coarse rampart]

Yeah i see this now

I wonder if bench storage could skip the lace meetups

[tawny basin]

hmmm

another major glitch so i wont be doing it, but a good thing to test

but its not the Lace Cutscene that triggers Act 2, its exiting through those transistions

[coarse rampart]

Oh really?

[tawny basin]

yea

[coarse rampart]

Wait so it's entering the lace rooms?

[tawny basin]

yeah its either Beating Last Judge and walking to the Right or Entering one of those 2 rooms

[torpid fog]

That's a bit cheesy, though.

Fight's not well put together

[fallow nexus]

It is cheesy. And I didn’t feel bad about it

[elder hound]

This game can be so frustrating at times

In the end this isnt a job, if you dont enjoy it you dont have to push yourself to do it the “right” way

[scenic wharf]

Steel heart complete. After 6 runs lost, one 4 hours, one 6 hours, and one 13 hours (voltnest)... it's finally done

[eternal forge]

real tbh

I haven't beat Groal the intended way

[sage crescent]

what are all the ways to beat the game

[warm egret]

Bind GMS, Bind GMS while Cursed, Needolin GMS, Free LL, Witness the Herald

[coarse rampart]

How does one even die to voltwyrm?

[warm egret]

Voltnest, not Voltvyrm

[coarse rampart]

They died to the hazards?

They're so well telegraphed tho

[warm egret]

Those hazards aren’t fucking around

They will do 4 masks of damage if you step wrong

[icy wraith]

Diagonal timed constrained movement is not nothing

With no bench or silk source during it

[coarse rampart]

Thsts fair

[random cairn]

why the fuck does Jubliana steal the white key if you don't pick it up immediately

cool mechanic

[naive cave]

Finder's keepers

[old pilot]

Silksong touchscreen challenge still continues

[pale rover]

Where he belongs

[idle latch]

Stinky flea takes a bath

[full hawk]

can you blame him though?

[craggy briar]

challenge run question, is downpatched no drifers cloak 100% possible without cocoon skips?

[craggy briar]

also, does anyone know how to do the fake cdash using crest swap (bench storage), i saw a post on reddit anout it but i forhot to save it and now i cant find it

oh wait nevermind i got it it's just dash attack

[slate sky]

why send him to clean water

[wraith drum]

Do y'all have a good loadout for Karmelita?

[sand quartz]

Needolin GMS isn't considered beating the game is it? The credits don't play and you don't get the chieve

[shut igloo]

Counted as an ending for me on my Steel Soul run. I got the "beat the game on Steel Soul" after needolining GMS, then the 100% one after beating LL

[inland valve]

afaik no since you need cloak for faydown iirc

unless you can get faydown in downpatched then probably yeah

[craggy briar]

yeah i think theres only the clawline skip. ill try looking for glitches and if that doesnt work then i guess downpatch haha

[inland valve]

maybe glitches might save it i haven't looked into the silksong ones
good luck on your challenge

[high ginkgo]

Hey guys whenever I open up Silksong, chromium opens up. What is it and how do I stop this?

[gilded sky]

Quickest mist run ever

[dim grail]

so, freinds, do we like architect crest?

is it good?

[opaque valve]

Manhattan project+cogflies for panic stage

Witch
Claw mirrors, warding bell, injector band
Cogflies+whatever tool you want bc shellsharts don’t get expended in memories

[ashen hatch]

Personally not a huge fan of the moveset, but overall I think it’s quite solid, especially if you like to use tools a lot. Pretty good for safer playstyles.

[rigid cypress]

I personally do not like it

Feels very anti-interaction

[magic stratus]

I wish Architect had a better pogo, if it did, it would be my main

It’s less the angle, but the delay throws me off so much

[rigid cypress]

I’m also not a fan of Crests that don’t synergize with much tbh

Like, Architect synergizes with Quick Sling and uh…

Shell Satchel if you’re in Steel Soul, ig

Whereas Hunter pairs well with stuff that uses Silk, Witch and Shaman should be obvious, Beast pairs super well with a lot of Blues tbh

Though I do like it more than Wanderer because, while it doesn’t have many unique synergies, it is at least a unique playstyle

[opaque valve]

So some bugs lay eggs (Styx, huntress, moss mother) and other bugs give birth directly (brood mother, gruz mother)
So what determines how they’ll have children? The fat bugs which are labeled as “mother” in a way usually don’t lay eggs, while more traditional bugs do lay eggs. But most of the eggs actually look more like cocoons, and basically none of them are clear and squishy or hard shelled? I need help understanding this

[rigid cypress]

I don’t think we really know tbh

[pale rover]

I wouldn't call it clean but I did shove him into maggot infested water once I found it

[hexed valve]

Hii

I love hollow

[flint silo]

Byee

[flint silo]

I hate solid

[burnt moon]

sk-discussion 2 slander, too bad no one will ever see it since the channel is dead

[honest crater]

wow

[deft yacht]

pretty much

[snow lava]

WRONG Zote jumpscare

https://tenor.com/view/zote-the-mighty-hollow-knight-theres-so-much-ted-zote-gif-11485464035912248894

[drifting sphinx]

substantially less bad then discussion 1

[snow lava]

I love zote

[drifting sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-christmas-jolly-blue-grinch-blinch-gif-5574103479031283928

[snow lava]

Thank you ❤️‍🩹✌🏻✌🏻

[drifting sphinx]

moss grotto since you fight a moss mother as a regular enemy

[inland valve]

putrified ducts

[drifting sphinx]

i was gonna say ducts next

[snow lava]

Whiteward so easy peasy

[drifting sphinx]

unravelled

[snow lava]

Shhhhhh

QUIET

[drifting sphinx]

are you running out of pumpkins

[snow lava]

Why is he so beautiful I love

[drifting sphinx]

alzheimer's, you sent this one already

[snow lava]

Hello we are the Freddy's survive the citadel or whatever

[drifting sphinx]

MY NAME IS FREDDY I MADE THE MIMIC

[snow lava]

NO

Five nights at GMS

[alpine radish]

wut

[snow lava]

Did he really say that I'm shivering

[drifting sphinx]

alright he was getting on my nerves i blocked him

must've been the wind...

[snow lava]

I change my mind let's bring gms back

[drifting sphinx]

nah he isn't being hateful just annoying

must've been the wind

2 blocked messages

1 blocked message

nah don't

[inland valve]

<@&283547423706447872> guy shitposting in the silksong channels

[drifting sphinx]

mods asleep

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mods-discord-hypixel-moderators-gif-20487428

[snow lava]

Ohh MOOODSS

[inland valve]

oh moderators

[snow lava]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-wait-silksong-seat-silksong-cute-silksong-fleas-gif-15439778005425867114

Babies

[eternal forge]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-11-28/the-makers-of-hollow-knight-silksong-aren-t-done-just-yet

STEEL ASSASSINS CONFIRMED 🤑

[alpine radish]

ooooooooooh

[sturdy pumice]

I hope team cherry does something with lifeblood that flips the script of what the radiance was doing.
Instead of a curse it’s intended as a blessing, and naturally it’s a moon themed higher being. The lifeseeds and light seeds being identical.
Plus the butterfly stuff already reminds me a LOT of radiance but blue.
Luna moth inspiration would go crazy

And the specific hues of blue and orange for the infection and lifeblood are near complete opposites.
Honestly, I really hope we get to see a lifeblood higher being. Especially if it’s revealed the lifeblood beast in the void is some sort of void born entity corrupted by lifeblood

[loud goblet]

Youhooooooooouuuuuuuuu

[sturdy pumice]

Huh

[lavish finch]

Trying to make a steam deck hotkey to use the first quick tool attack, any idea why this isn't working?

It's very tedious having to press up or down and then hit the bumper while doing a thousand other things.

[pale rover]

Huge

[abstract nest]

Good article overall and I am definitely stoked about the assassin's being confirmed to return. There was a theory that the Citadel is what dried out the coral gorge to pump into High Halls and TC just about confirmed it

Shoot wrong reply tag. I hate touchscreens

[arctic hound]

they/them sharpe

[abstract nest]

They'll still be called a he here anyway

[rigid cypress]

A lil thing I'm making

[zealous frigate]

bro missed every secret room

[past turret]

No I didn't 🙁

[zealous frigate]

yes

[past turret]

name one I missed

[zealous frigate]

did you fight first sinner

[past turret]

Do you see how the game completion says 100%?

Yes I fought First Sinner

[zealous frigate]

shit ur right

nevermind

[sweet hatch]

YesssssssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[rigid cypress]

Could be, I suppose

Gibson could have also just used they/them even though Sharpe is he/him

[devout kayak]

HELL YEA

[west viper]

Did you fight sinners 2-4 yet

[round violet]

huh, trough so many emotianal damage... finally i just got the HiveSteel Needle.
Yay!

[hollow flax]

Was it always there? Or has it been added by a recent patch?

[pastel aurora]

Always there, it's before you ring the bell

Is gone after that

[arctic hound]

or he could be referring to the other steel enemies too

[round violet]

Lmao, This was the first boss whom i beat for my first try...
It was a wonderfull show, by the way.

[signal iris]

but bread taste better than key

[signal iris]

i thought about beating silk without ringing the bell but i forgor and rang it

[supple badger]

The spider string tool should just be a needlin upgrade

[dull wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-bell-beast-hornet-i-fucking-love-my-dog-gif-16253163473145257201

[supple badger]

Your profile picture is amazing

[misty sky]

What was everyones first first try? Mine was Phantom fsr

[supple badger]

What do you mean by first first try

[misty sky]

The first boss in ur playtrough u beated first try

[dull wadi]

Lace or bell beast

Oh wait the boss in moss grotto exists

[misty sky]

Oh yea, i think i did die once then bc i wasnt used to it yet

[misty sky]

How did u beat those first try in start of the game? U played hollow knight before?

[dull wadi]

i got destroyed by the ant guard a couple of times due to not being used to the mechanics though

but lace 1 is the one i distinctly remember doing first try

[supple badger]

Moss mother

[pastel aurora]

I did Lace 1 first try and I feel like most of that was thanks to having analyzed Lace 1's fight from the demo like a billion times

Knew all her moves before the fight even began

[runic sinew]

i did it 2nd try bc she counter me and then threw me to the lava lol -4 masks

[pastel aurora]

Surprisingly Sister Splinter was first try too and my last bench was at bellhart 💀

raging conchflies were easy to get down too

[shadow flame]

What if the true silk song was the friend we made along the way

[mental thunder]

I did Lace 1 first try then died to her on my second playthrough 💔

[stark mural]

I'm trying to do everything in silksong, i have killed every void mass, went to every single secret area

[rigid cypress]

https://th3r3dfox.github.io/silksong-tracker/ you may find this useful if you’re not using it already

[stark mural]

quills, silkshot are optional right?

[rigid cypress]

You can only get one Silkshot, so yes

[stark mural]

HOLY SHIT IVE DONE ALL OF THESE

[rigid cypress]

And you can only get one Quill

Personally, I would say getting the Purple Quill is the best, but yeah you can only get one

[stark mural]

i wanted to get purple

but i thought red was cool since i wanted everything in my save file red/hornet

silkshot hornet, red bellhome, red quill, encrusted heart (as a memento)

[rigid cypress]

Valid

Tbh, I think the best to get would the the Hornet Silkshot and Purple Quill

[stark mural]

im trying to make the longest bind in silksong
shaman, multi binder, reserve bind
but i dont know the longest fall in a straight line

[warm egret]

Red Memory or the Intro Bridge drop

[rigid cypress]

Intro Bridge gotta be it

[warm egret]

Intro Bridge has a handful of platforms to dodge, but you can just refer to this map to plan a route to dodge em without moving
https://scripterswar.com/silksong/map

[rigid cypress]

Just from a glance, it doesn't seem like you can go the entire way without moving

[daring niche]

MEJINA PHORAH

[rigid cypress]

Do y’all have any good ideas for what Reds could pair well with Witch

I’m honestly rlly unsure cause I’m not as into Reds as Blues, and the other three Crests that pique my interest either don’t have any or are more Needle focused, so I can just use Flea Brew and Flintslate

[stoic rune]

I just started silksong today but did anyone else find fourth chorus easy

[empty elbow]

yes imo its the easiest act 1 boss

[tiny relic]

moss mother:

[finite delta]

Pinstress sucks so bad

[gilded sky]

Tried getting all unique one time use items about three left to go

[rigid cypress]

Damn

[tiny relic]

holy....

[signal iris]

i love that

wheres the mask shard slot thing tho

[knotty talon]

probably didn’t get any mask shards

[signal iris]

is there only 19 frayed strings

[gilded sky]

Ye

What you see is all there is even for currency

Except beast shards or pristine cores

[rigid cypress]

Only regular strings and necklaces are infinite, yeah

Can’t remember what is for Shards tho

[gilded sky]

Thought the 3 craft shards to one core conversion was bad so I didn't do it just yet

[rigid cypress]

Oh yeah, only Rosary Strings, Rosary Necklaces, and Shard Bundles are unlimited

[gilded sky]

Made sure to collect them in all glowing spots and found new shortcuts that way so it was somewhat worthwhile

[signal iris]

so when is dlc

[gilded sky]

Tomorrow

[signal iris]

glowing spots?

[gilded sky]

Collection prompts

[signal iris]

ah gotcha

[gilded sky]

The ones laying on the ground scattered across the map yeah

[signal iris]

shard bundles out in the wild

[spare venture]

Can you race Swift in Act 2?

[rigid cypress]

Nope

[spare venture]

Like you can't get to him or he won't be there or he won't be offering it?

[rigid cypress]

Can’t get to him

[spare venture]

Ok is there another silk soar requirement after the statue?

[rigid cypress]

Uhhhh

I am unsure

[spare venture]

Because I know you can bypass the statue one with Volevessels + Delver's Drill.

[gilded sky]

Woah huh do you pogo the pin?

[spare venture]

sorta

[gilded sky]

Yeah I probably understand that

I think silksoar is needed before karmelita for the bench?

[spare venture]

For the bench, I think, but I think you don't need it to get to her.

[gilded sky]

But you can't do nothing from there

Pretty neat if possible

Pale rosary necklace is obtainable if you think about the possibilities

[spare venture]

Huh what?

[gilded sky]

Oh I don't have the ruined tool anymore as I was too eager to use it but I don't regret my decision as I've had the most fun with it especially for a beastly fight where I no hit after fumbling the controls a handful of times before

[gilded sky]

That's in expanded hunters march

[spare venture]

Ah didn't remember that it's there.

[gilded sky]

Scanned the wiki a ton myself to learn that info

[spare venture]

lmao

[coarse rampart]

Quil but no map
Based

[icy hazel]

FINALLY FINISHED MY FIRST SAVE FILE!!!!

Now I can start planning for my Steel Soul save file

[gilded sky]

I'm going to end the file cursed and with no health or weapon upgrades

[gilded sky]

Oh good on ya going to 100% steel soul?

Shell satchel is your friend

[swift bloom]

I got an albm cover aah screenshot

[icy hazel]

Yup. Just so I can do both Steel Soul Achievements

[random cairn]

did they patch memorium without faycloak? (the beast charge attack thing)

[gilded sky]

Think you could do the Speedrun achievement or have you already got to that?

Speedruns are good for practice

Extra preparations also always help

[random cairn]

shell satchel is absolutely goated but you should put it on vesticrest if you're going to use it, you lose the extra capacity worth of tools and have to recraft them every time you swap to a crest without it (even if that crest doesn't have those tools on it)

[gilded sky]

Exactly the strategy I employed too

[minor vapor]

guys does anyone know of a full silksong map tracker & markers for silksong, most of the ones i've found online only let you track 50 items

[dull wadi]

How many trackers u need?

[gray night]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-hornet-garama-guarana-gif-11792020015736795535

[pearl shard]

rune rage rework when

https://youtu.be/C18ArBzJED0

[brittle trench]

Silksong interactive map is the one I use often

js type it in google or smth and click the first link

search a certain tool or mask shard, spool fragment, lost flea it has it

[proud meadow]

It’s not strong, but I like it

[dull wadi]

You know rune rage helps immensly with deliveries since you can kill enemies through the walls

[pearl shard]

meh

rune rage needs a rework since this shit is useless considering how random and inconsistent it is + the dogshit scaling

[manic knot]

Hi guys due to complications in sk discussion one we will be moving here for now

[snow lava]

I need to know what was sent to me I was literally pinged

[cobalt apex]

Alr

[wraith helm]

anyone wanna trade garmond trading card on steam? (it's the last one i need for the badge)

[snow lava]

This channel ain't so bad after all

[craggy bridge]

bug yuri 💜

[wraith helm]

hm?

[snow lava]

People were being weird in the first SK discussion that's why I said this but it's all jokes

[wraith helm]

or are they?

[snow lava]

Probably

[inland valve]

i'm starting to think they're not joking

[eternal hedge]

Fearful pilgrim in the new skong poster next to the bellbeast

Very silly

[snow lava]

I don't think they were 💔

[inland valve]

story in 5 messages

[rigid cypress]

It’s not entirely random, it does put runes where enemies are more often than not

However, the use time is stupid and it shouldn’t take all your silk if interrupted

[pearl shard]

nah it doesnt

it is random, just look at the darn video I sent and you'll see how many times it spawns runes nowhere close to an enemy

smh rune rage should have just been a silk skill version of the actual pure vessel/first sinner attack that isnt random but actually properly distanced, or idfk maybe a nerfed aoe version of snare setter

[rigid cypress]

Okay it definitely does track

[pearl shard]

it does not

[rigid cypress]

Okay it objectively does

[pearl shard]

it objectively does not track

[rigid cypress]

It’s just kinda shit

No like

[pearl shard]

that is true, it's utter garbage

[rigid cypress]

“The runes tend to appear near enemies in line of sight of Hornet. If Hornet is hiding behind cover, the runes appear randomly and may miss all enemies entirely. Enemies may also move out of the way of runes while they are appearing.” From the wiki

[pearl shard]

it does not track

how can you call a skill that spawns nowhere near close to an enemy a tracking skill

[pearl shard]

fyi information the wiki is written by fans

[rigid cypress]

I am aware

But it’s just very inconsistent tracking

[pearl shard]

it's very bad, so bad it doesnt actually track shit

[rigid cypress]

It definitely takes enemy position into account tho

[pearl shard]

it needs a rework because random barely-tracking runes dont work

[rigid cypress]

Okay, sure, we can go with barely tracking

I think having them move towards enemies for a short duration before activating could help it out

[pearl shard]

"rune rage" more like slightly angered hornet throwing useless glyphs

[pearl shard]

and maybe a damage formula that isnt ass

a constantly halving formula smh

[rigid cypress]

If 2 hit one enemy it does 66 damage, 3, 77… doesn’t seem THAT bad but it isn’t… great

Actually I don’t think it halves now that I think of it

[pearl shard]

at the moment I really see zero point in using rune rage, it's somehow less useful than silk spear lmao

[rigid cypress]

It does full damage, then 1/2, then 1/3, then 1/4

Still not great but it isn’t constantly halving

[pearl shard]

Team Cherry and their stubbornly BAD balancing smh

[rigid cypress]

I think maybe it could be
Damage - .1*(n-1)

[pearl shard]

they got better in silksong but still have quite a few fuck ups

[rigid cypress]

Honestly? Only Rune Rage is that bad

[pearl shard]

not silk skill wise, tool-wise

the other skills are all fine

[rigid cypress]

Uhhhh

[inland valve]

it does track but the tracking depends on the size of the enemy

[pearl shard]

aka: rosary cannon, wispfire lantern

[rigid cypress]

I guess memory crystal isn’t great

Woah woah woah

[inland valve]

On normal really small enemies only 1-2 runes will try to track

[rigid cypress]

Wispfire lantern is like, good though???

[pearl shard]

noo???

[rigid cypress]

Rosary Cannon I will admit is dogshit

[pearl shard]

it's always missing and costs silk

[rigid cypress]

It uh

[pearl shard]

it'll more likely hit a wall than an enemy

[inland valve]

on giant enemies like nyleth all 9 runes will try to track

[pearl shard]

literally just use thread storm you'll deal more dmg anyway

[rigid cypress]

Wispfire Lantern bad sure is a take

[pearl shard]

it is bad

not as bad as ghost's aspid baby charm but still bad

[rigid cypress]

Passive 17 damage every 4 seconds with barely any silk detriment

[pearl shard]

do you know how little that is

[rigid cypress]

It’s passive

[pearl shard]

especially since it misses a lot

[rigid cypress]

So like, constant, and no it really doesn’t miss that often???

[pearl shard]

it does

welcome back worse grimmchild

[rigid cypress]

Woah woah woah

Grimmchild is actually worse though

[pearl shard]

mostly because staggers in hollow knight were shit

[rigid cypress]

Not shit, just different

I suppose Wispfire could use a buff but it’s no Rosary Cannon

[pearl shard]

staggers only existed for healing opportunities, and grimmchild interrupted said healing opportunities

I like how you can actually use those windows for damage in skong

[rigid cypress]

It’s because they’re very different combat systems

I think Silksong’s shorter, but uninterruptable staggers would kinda suck in HK

Seriously tho, this game is NOWHERE near as poorly balanced as HK

Shout out to that game, like half the charms need crazy buffs

[pearl shard]

yeah most of them are really bad

[clear ore]

Shaw!

[tiny orchid]

final boss spoilers - ||i just beat lost lace and saw that i only had 99% completion of the game, before realizing i forgot to bind eva goodness gracious||

now i gotta do it all over again to get the 100% completion trophy grrr

[rigid cypress]

Go do the mementos and Materium and all that before doing LL again ngl

[tiny orchid]

perchance... i found a build that works pretty well for me tho so i think ill give LL a shot again

but all those are def next🫡

[rigid cypress]

Ooh, do tell

Or just give a screenshot that works better

[tiny orchid]

i am a total wanderers main lol, i love the dps and its my fav fighting style!

[rigid cypress]

Reserve Bind is interesting

[tiny orchid]

that has also saved my life in LL and pretty much every other fight

[rigid cypress]

Fair, I suppose

[tiny orchid]

i find it really useful! especially when she enters phase 2 i can use it to be at full

[rigid cypress]

I haven’t played yet but I will probably be maining Beast

The DPS it can have is lowkey absurd

[tiny orchid]

no actually its so impressive... hats off to you!

[rigid cypress]

Unsure on whether or not to use Longclaw or Druid’s Eyes with it tho

Druid’s Eyes would be objectively better since losing health is beneficial on the Crest, but Longclaw funny

[tiny orchid]

i think depending on how much space / other tools you wanna use Druid's is def good! and if the funny works even better :)

[rigid cypress]

Well, Beast only has one Blue tool

Well, not even, it has one with Vesticrest

[tiny orchid]

oh geez really😭 i am way too unfamiliar with other creasts lol

[rigid cypress]

Yeah it’s kinda crazy that Beast has one Blue Tool slot and it’s still cracked

[tiny orchid]

dps go brrrrrrrrr

[rigid cypress]

Beast Bind also makes attacks bigger so that’s why I think Longclaw would look pretty funny with it

[tiny orchid]

nah you should totally use snitch pick tho def best for LL

[tiny orchid]

thats some ethereal range lol.. and it might actually be useful!

compared to druids eye or fractured mask tho i guess it's just a question of which is better

[rigid cypress]

Fractured Mask is about as good on Beast as on other Crests, whereas Druid’s Eyes is better on Beast than other Crests

It just compliments the playstyle REALLY hard

[vital obsidian]

Fractured Madk or Reserve bind?

[rigid cypress]

Hmmm, good question

You need to be a lil better at clutching up with Fractured Mask

[hollow flax]

What is scenes?

[rigid cypress]

Tbh, I have no clue

[elder bison]

Why do so many people complain about ||Bile Water and Groal the Great|| I just beat him second try and it honestly was a bit of a let down because ive seen so many people talk it up to be super hard

[frigid dragon]

I BEAT ||HIGH HALLS ARENA||

ITS BEEN SINCE OCT 6

AND I FINALLY BEAT IT

[opaque valve]

Have been constantly trying it, or doing other things

In the game

[frigid dragon]

That’s what I had to do too, got basically all of ||act 2|| done other than that lmao

Running head first into bosses again and again with no strategy change works! Sometimes!

Incredible

[quaint parrot]

LETS GOO ‼️‼️

[minor geyser]

I've been trying to figure out how to get to act 3 in skong but I'm very confused

[frigid dragon]

YEAHHHHHHHH ‼️‼️‼️

[opaque valve]

Want a hint

Just do all the quest boards and get all the fleas, then you’ll get a thing to do a thing to get into act 3

[twilit panther]

||why tf is grandmother silk so easy of a boss ?||

[quaint parrot]

|| it’s the hollow knight of silksong, lost lace would compare better to radiance ||

Also based on about how far ur through act 2

[twilit panther]

was somewhat far ig, idk i was kinda underwhelmed with the fight

welp "far" i didnt explore that much tbh lol

[minor geyser]

how do I do spoiler?

[opaque valve]

You do ||text||

Oops

[minor geyser]

?

[opaque valve]

The special tall key twice on each side
|
Like IItextII
But with the |

With two on each side

[minor geyser]

||Like this||

[opaque valve]

Yeah

[minor geyser]

Do I have to beat ||groal the great||

[compact trellis]

yeah

[opaque valve]

Yeah

[compact trellis]

you basically need to do everything available in act 2

[opaque valve]

You don’t need to get all the tools tho

So don’t worry about the shops

Rosary farming is a bit harder though

[minor geyser]

what do I kill for the ||sounnds of choir|| quest or whatever it's called

[warm egret]

What items does the quest ask for

[minor geyser]

choir cloaks

[warm egret]

Kill choir pilgrims, the ones that don’t have their faces covered

There’s a fair amount on the left side of the Choral Chambers, near the kitchen

[minor geyser]

OK

[fathom marlin]

How good is magnetite dice?

[drifting sphinx]

best yellow, always mandatory if you can fit it

[rigid cypress]

There are some contenders for better Yellow but yeah it's pretty damn good

[pearl shard]

like what

for combat there's nothing better unless you're in a really bad arena and need ascendant grip

[drowsy stag]

silk strings best yellow

[pearl shard]

absolutely not it's ass

[drowsy stag]

i love lying but it could be more believable

anyway yeah magdice best yellow

i do think scuttlebrace takes second over ascendants grip though there’s never really a time when you need to stay in place and a good dash or jump won’t also let you stay

[pearl shard]

Never saw any point in scuttlebrace tbh

[fathom canyon]

silk strings is good in the sense that it accomplishes the goal it sets out to

it's just not something that impacts your likelihood of victory

[rigid cypress]

Shell Satchel

[gilded sky]

Can anyone make a guess as to what I'm collecting last?

[split hamlet]

@severe lichen!!!!
I finished!!
I did it!!

lost lace is DEAD

[crystal nova]

Amazing she is super fun

[split hamlet]

and i just beat her w/o healing, upgrading my masks, upgrading my silk spool, using silk skills, or upgradingn my needle with the beast crest

wooohhh that was a fun challenge run

lost lace took 5-7 hours

[gilded sky]

What abt tools

[split hamlet]

not as ba das the high halls arena which took 8

[split hamlet]

tools were fair game

I did this challenge run to force me to play around with the tools some more

I have a new favorite blue tool (sawtooth circlet) and the fire basket thingamabob is also pretty good

in terms of red I found that sting shard is good

I had some fun with silkshot

[gilded sky]

Yeah those are pretty nice but the circlet idk too much on where is it really practical? I guess it's good additional damage

[split hamlet]

it does 7 more damage than the palesteel needle

and you can easily weave it into combos

by cancelling your double jump

[crystal nova]

If you could heal in high halls it will probably be easier

[split hamlet]

I guess I didnt get to explore combos too much due to my low margin for error and how the circlet completely eclipsed my needle

I just did the basic
double jump cancel into needle hit into drifter's cloak

[gilded sky]

Oh yeah no needle upgrades

[split hamlet]

28 + 5 + 28

[gilded sky]

That's cool then

[split hamlet]

yeah

there's some crazy clips online with the circlet though

blitzing the grand reeds with it

that kinda thing

[split hamlet]

yeah, I ended up using the plasmium phial for it regrettably

one of two times I used it

[gilded sky]

Ohh that would have made farming easier

[split hamlet]

while technically allowed by the rules it felt cheaty

[gilded sky]

I just found walls to hit lol

[split hamlet]

like used the sawtooth circlet for that?

honestly I writ it off my first run too

[gilded sky]

Shell shard farming with grand reeds sounds easier than thwacking shell shard walls

[split hamlet]

I thought it wasnt that good, then I saw the damage on the wiki and the clips from yt

[split hamlet]

yes, in act 2 you get 275 rosaries per run

*if you're using the thief's mark

if you do two runs you have 550 rosaries which translates to 11 shard bundles which is 880 shell shards

each run takes like 2-3 minutes

it's way worse in act 3 though, about the same time per run now but you only get 110 rosaries per run

[gilded sky]

I would hit a shell shard wall and shards would pop out of it if I used the architects crest I would sometimes get three shards in one hit

[split hamlet]

I was going to experiment with doing courier quests

[split hamlet]

that seems painful

[split hamlet]

to build on this, you can use the shard pendant and the snitch pick to get extra shell shards just dropping from the reeds themselves

[gilded sky]

It was fine I could max out in roughly ten mins

[split hamlet]

so you can fill up your bar AND have some to spare

[split hamlet]

it must've been monotonous though

[gilded sky]

Let me cope here

[split hamlet]

well any farming is monotonous but killing enemies at least requires some brain use

hitting shard walls is just.. running back and forth

[split hamlet]

mb mb

[gilded sky]

How long did the run take?

[split hamlet]

35hrs total

really funny that nearly 1/3-1/4 of that was high halls arena

and 1/7 was lost lace

[gilded sky]

Hitting the wall for a minute straight beforehand

[split hamlet]

oh my gosh I would just quit actually

[gilded sky]

I think I'll be fine with the prep I have

No shakra assistance?

[split hamlet]

shakra assistance would've felt kinda cheap and also makes it impossible to see the enemeies

here I go!!

[gilded sky]

That was my early-mid game farm without losing out on materials

[split hamlet]

notice something weird about my third save file?

[gilded sky]

Hmmm hmm

2 shell shards

[split hamlet]

ah, darnit

I've been caught

[gilded sky]

Too early to have that amount

[split hamlet]

hm? oh I played it a little bit and killed one thing

[gilded sky]

Oh but why

I get it now

[split hamlet]

I was like 'okay let's do a chill run through of the game!' and started playing and 30s later I was like 'nah that'd be too easy'

so I hopped in the save file editor

[gilded sky]

Based

[split hamlet]

omg she's going to stand like this for the rest of the game

[gilded sky]

Might as well make it cursed

[split hamlet]

I'm not going to tack on the other challenges this time

I think having to no-hit the game will be plenty

plus now I want to mess around with everything

[gilded sky]

Try snare setters out this time

[split hamlet]

oh my

is this with a maxed crafting kit?

[gilded sky]

Nah

3rd level tho

[split hamlet]

hot damn

[gilded sky]

They've probably made my own challenge run significantly easier

[split hamlet]

oh my gosh I've died to random enemies in the marrow nad the moss grotto 3 times now

this is going to be my life for the next 50 some hours 😭

[shut igloo]

It's crazy how much snare setters are slept on because you have to give it up for Silk & Soul and most people don't get used to setting them. Absolutely melts Unravelled, probably would melt Karmelita and Lost Lace if you could keep it.

[split hamlet]

this is what save editors are for :)

[gilded sky]

I don't have any of that fanciful tech on PlayStation but I'm now fully kitted out

[old fern]

Hi I am new to discord and just wanted to say hi to the people in the hollow knight & silk song community

[rigid cypress]

Hello 👋

You have any fun playing Silksong?

[old fern]

I cant it wont load 🙁

[rigid cypress]

Huh?

[old fern]

the game wont start

[rigid cypress]

Hm, odd

[old fern]

you got any tips?

to fix the game I mean.

hello?

[rigid cypress]

Oh sorry, yeah I have no clue

[old fern]

ok

[rigid cypress]

Don’t really know what the issue is

[old fern]

can you ask around plez?

[rigid cypress]

You could ask in the main SK chat

There’s a lot more traffic over there

[old fern]

ok thanks 🙂

[severe lichen]

Lesssgo

Lemme know when u upload

[split hamlet]

alr

[severe lichen]

How many tries did LL take?

[split hamlet]

5-6 hrs worth

[proper olive]

Does this have less slowdown? Bet

[wooden canopy]

Dih

Wowee

[severe lichen]

Hello

[wooden canopy]

5 seconds

[proper olive]

Hi guys :D

[severe lichen]

Its ture wtf

[honest crater]

hello fellow 5 seconds

[wooden canopy]

🥳

[honest crater]

this is the most active chat now

[raw herald]

lmao

[proper olive]

People about to be confused lol

[wooden canopy]

Slowmode more like stupid mode

[severe lichen]

We need announcement that all users migratbhere from discssion 1, asap

[honest crater]

@allmembers

[proper olive]

Buff reaper crest

[wooden canopy]

How about just dont use it 🔥

[raw herald]

buff the first #sk-discussion

[severe lichen]

Put a floor in Groal's area

[honest crater]

buff wanderer

[raw herald]

it needs a buff honestly

[severe lichen]

Delete Beast crest

[wooden canopy]

Reaper crest is for little babies that piss their pants

[raw herald]

as it stands, reaper is:

• slow
• ...um

[tiny rivet]

Is wanderers good

[raw herald]

high attack speed so yeah

[wooden canopy]

Its the best one tbh

[honest crater]

it has low skill celing

[proper olive]

Consistent but low skill ceiling

[wooden canopy]

Dude it is

[proper olive]

Not at all

[honest crater]

this chat is so dead that the 5 second doesn't matter 😭

[wooden canopy]

It has the highest dps by a LOTT

[proper olive]

Architect exist

[tiny rivet]

I like hunter crest

[proper olive]

How far are u in the game?

[wooden canopy]

Thats way too gimmicky, you need lots of shards

[tiny rivet]

Act 2

[severe lichen]

Reaper aint bad. Its slow but u can strategize by silk orb generations. Useful if u dont want to nuke everything with tool spam

[tiny rivet]

I beat cogwork dancers

[wooden canopy]

Reaper is for little babies that piss their pants

[proper olive]

Reaper compared to other crest is bad

[proper olive]

How?

[severe lichen]

Ok beast compared to other crest is bad.

[proper olive]

Not at all

[wooden canopy]

Hunter is for cool people

[severe lichen]

See how stupid it sounds

Hunter is bad cuz it cant match wanderer's dps n crits

[wooden canopy]

Reaper is the worst one 😭

[proper olive]

Your grasping at straws

[severe lichen]

So we r at hating reaper phase. N moved pased beast hate huh

Gotto keep up with the times

[proper olive]

Reaper desperately needs a buff to be viable at all

[raw herald]

reaper is slow and slow doesn't feel fun

[proper olive]

Either buff it or remove it entirely

[wooden canopy]

Its easy to pogo with but everything else about it is trash, so its kinda only used by people who cant hit pogos

[raw herald]

reaper is more slots for eva's upgrades

[proper olive]

Architect is also for babies

[wooden canopy]

Not as much as reaper

At least its unique

[proper olive]

H o w

[raw herald]

have you used architect without tool spamming?

[severe lichen]

Wanderer is for babies that cant leaen diagonal pogo

[proper olive]

It's legit tool spam

[raw herald]

yeah but that's only if you tool spam

[proper olive]

U don't do ANY of the fighting

[wooden canopy]

Reaper is worse because it has such a huge hitbox

[raw herald]

this fight was done with no craft binds

[severe lichen]

As it was intended to e tbh

[wooden canopy]

Not all people use it as tool spam

[severe lichen]

How does that even make it worse tho

[raw herald]

the wind ups on the attacks are actually pretty fun

[raw herald]

I keep knocking over furniture

[wooden canopy]

Its so easy to hit stuff

[raw herald]

reaper is basically training wheels

[severe lichen]

Architect pogo charge is so useful for flying guys imo

[zealous canopy]

Is the rumors true?

[raw herald]

about the slowmode? yes

[zealous canopy]

[proper olive]

I'm actually smart guys

I told em to move over

[wooden canopy]

If your a real gamer you use hunter through the whole game, then you get to try other crests

[zealous canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[proper olive]

If your a true gamer u understand not everyone's playstyle fits hunter

[severe lichen]

If u are true gamer u play through silksong using only tools

[wooden canopy]

Then git gud and change your play style

[proper olive]

This is ragebait

[raw herald]

I used wanderer for first playthrough, switched to reaper after hearing that it was allegedly good, eventually got sick of how slow it is and started using other stuff

[wooden canopy]

I think that when people intimately switch to reaper, it just shows they dont have the patience to learn a new thing 💔

[fluid hamlet]

A hunter main broke into my car, pissed on all the seats, stole my wallet and crashed it into a ditch so now im never touching it ever again

[raw herald]

beast crest is horrible for new players but it's a really good for a repeat playthrough

[severe lichen]

I used wanderer mostly, then tried reaper, then tried beast, then hunter.

[wooden canopy]

It was prob me, sorry

[golden bay]

Beast crest BETTER

[raw herald]

beast crest does a really good job of deterring new players from using it by having the weird pogo

[severe lichen]

I switched to reaper in coral tower. For some reason my game was bugged and all my sharfs get used up

[paper osprey]

Guys my brother clicked to something whe I was inspecting the relic collection in bellhart and one of the choral commandment things say this about pale king and hornet

"Full chamber to the kingdom of the white wyrm(Pale king)" the next one says

"Claim the weaver, last of their line. Sensed strong with silk.(hornet)"

so this choral commandment is from the dead body on near bone bottom

[fluid hamlet]

Its alrite maybe

[proper olive]

This chat is alive now

[raw herald]

then you can try it out on another playthrough and find out it's actually pretty fun

[golden bay]

Can we move back to Sk 1?

[wooden canopy]

I used hunter for a whole ply through, now im going to use wanderer because its so good

[raw herald]

the slowmode though

[proper olive]

No

[fluid hamlet]

Beast pogo is peak anyway

[severe lichen]

Also no healing unless u are a tuff guy

[golden bay]

We don’t deserve it

[proper olive]

Slow mo is only 5 secs here

[severe lichen]

Fr

[raw herald]

I'll be willing to move back once the slowmode is reduced in #sk-discussion

I'll likely still check in on the other channel but yeah

[proper olive]

The helldivers discord taught me when there's multiple channels for the same thing, they all have different slow mo

[raw herald]

man...

breab

[proper olive]

Both channels went dead

Or am I lagging?

[wooden canopy]

Not talking in a channel for 30 seconds doesnt make it dead

[proper olive]

Yes it does

[honest crater]

NO

[proper olive]

Aw...

:(

[severe lichen]

Chat is pretty tame compared to yesterday

[proper olive]

Ikr

[severe lichen]

Did smth happen when i was asleep i wonder

[honest crater]

it's final exams time

[raw herald]

I said brb didn't I?

[proper olive]

Nah uh

[raw herald]

huh, turns out I didn't say brb

[severe lichen]

Breab

[raw herald]

breab

[proper olive]

Breab

[honest crater]

breab

[proper olive]

Also I hate broodmother

[paper osprey]

Hey just wondering is it cogwork wheel longpin and flintslate to get the organs for brood feast wish

Flintslate for seared organs?

Cogwork wheel for shredded organs?

And longpin for skewered organs?

[proper olive]

Boss tierlist1!!1!1!11!1!1!!

[raw herald]

many tools work

skewered has very few options though

[severe lichen]

Go architect's charged strike for skewered organs

[honest crater]

you can check the wiki if you don't mind for spoilers

[raw herald]

longpin, sting shard and needle phial I think lmao

[paper osprey]

I don't mind spoilers

[proper olive]

Area tierlist

[severe lichen]

Where first sinner. Also great conchflies and mossmother need to swap

[raw herald]

seared works with anything hot, like flintslate, pimpillo, anything electric or fiery

[proper olive]

If the boss isn't there I've haven't fought em

[severe lichen]

Ok

[honest crater]

15 Seared Organs can be obtained by roasting enemies using fiery or electrical attacks:
Needle after using Flintslate
Pimpillo
Wispfire Lantern
Voltvessels
Volt Filament
Other sources of heat (e.g. a Memoria blown up by another Memoria's electrified explosive)
35 Shredded Organs can be harvested by tearing up enemies using jagged weapons:
Sawtooth Circlet
Cogwork Wheel
Delver's Drill
Conchcutter
Beast Crest's downwards attack
Architect Crest's downwards and Needle Strike attacks
10 Skewered Organs can be gathered by stabbing or impaling enemies with:
Sting Shard
Longpin
Needle Phial

[raw herald]

shredded comes from tons of things, anything drill or saw like, including conchcutter, sawtooth circlet, and even beast crest's pogo

[honest crater]

i'm slightly sorry for the walltext

[severe lichen]

Bilewater deserves its owm teir tbh

[proper olive]

Fair enough

[raw herald]

you put bilewater at the wrong end

[proper olive]

I can't see what tierlist this is

[proper olive]

This is old btw

[raw herald]

you seem to have mistakenly put bilewater in D instead of putrified ducts, which is absent

[proper olive]

I have since been enlightened lemme change this

[severe lichen]

Shaman in d??? Also where is beast

[honest crater]

c

[severe lichen]

Im blind thought that was reaper

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-wtf-dies-of-cringe-gif-20364592

[proper olive]

New tierlist

[raw herald]

yess

[severe lichen]

Put architect in S

Bruh wanderer should be A tho

[raw herald]

it's good but it's pretty mundane

[honest crater]

When i first got crests

i thought that the gimmick of them was that they had an unique bind

because reaper and beast had an unique bind

[raw herald]

mm

first crest I got was reaper, and of course I immediately saw the difference in my needle attacks

[rigid cypress]

I swear I know you

You look familiar

[raw herald]

hmm

[rigid cypress]

Were you in pikcord

[raw herald]

not that I'm aware of

[rigid cypress]

I think I just know you from here and I forgot 😭

[raw herald]

lol

[golden bay]

https://tenor.com/view/silk-song-silksong-hk-hollow-gif-1049229918317041007

[golden bay]

Beast in S when?

[raw herald]

that is some low effort fighting...

[golden bay]

Hunter crest experience

[rigid cypress]

I respect this but it is a bit too harsh ngl

[raw herald]

no... the person playing in the gif just sucks...

barely even swinging their needle

[spare root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983450314885713943/1444778655871013078/19ad5dfb75063-master_playlist.mov he’s done it again

[rigid cypress]

My attempt at it

Wanderer is decent average DPS but really just does not have the same peak DPS as other crests

[severe lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-dead-chat-cringe-discord-cry-gif-20805838

[minor geyser]

Trobio was to easy in my opinion

[flint sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-v2-v2ultrakill-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-26254974

[tawny basin]

Is that v2

machine!!

[flint sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[paper osprey]

Broodfeast quest is completed!

[raw herald]

nice

[hot gulch]

Is that ultrakill

🥹

[scarlet wing]

I’m playing a hollow knight TTRPG campaign and my friend had the idea to make us pass through Sinner’s Road except it’s worse because a hell sewer system with a villainous dung beetle is there too. And a toxic swamp with those damn maggots is up ahead 💀

Also I’ve been told that my lifeblood themed character is essentially a ticking time bomb. If I heal anyone for a cumulative amount of over their max HP in too short of an amount of time, they will become infected. I don’t know what that means yet.

This effect applies to her own healing too. And also overusing her healing makes her feel ill

Flea Brew makes her turn purple and glow brightly lol

The irony is that she finds infection horrifying and has set out to stop the madness plaguing her hometown…

[rigid cypress]

I rlly hope they buff Throwing Rings soon

They're not awful but they shouldn't be literally just slightly better Straightpin with less capacity

[fierce meteor]

I last saw someone claim to make a deffinitive tierlist, throwing rings being the highest red tool .......

Longclaw in F

It was terrible overal

[rigid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-genius-math-mega-brain-tek-gif-27194141

I should try one out

[fierce meteor]

I think straight deals more damage

Not sure

[rigid cypress]

Wiki says they do the same, but Throwing Rings has the POSHANKA which makes the next ring do 50% more

[scarlet wing]

Speaking of Bilewater, I actually wouldn’t mind there being More Bilewater. I enjoyed Bilewater, it’s hell but the right kind of hell. I also wish Sinner’s Road and Putrefied Ducts were bigger

[rigid cypress]

Didn't order within tiers and kinda just threw this together

I think I could have put more in S ngl

[scarlet wing]

A “Hornet’s Nightmare” mod that just replaces every zone with sinners road, Bilewater or putrefied ducts and relevant quest chains would be very fun i think

I’m not being sarcastic. I liked Bilewater

I wish putrified ducts and sinners road were bigger bc they had good atmosphere

[fierce meteor]

Very valid

[rigid cypress]

I feel like Ducts is very much just "yo we have more Bilewater" so idk

[scarlet wing]

That’s because the concept had potential and it was wasted

[rigid cypress]

[scarlet wing]

It could’ve made an amazing survival horror atmosphere with a stealth-based challenge where you have to fumble around in the dark and parkour around very carefully to avoid the various monsters and hazards (such as Worse Mosscreeps and Ceiling Vine Creature). I found the atmosphere of the place immensely unsettling

Buuuuut they created an ominous atmosphere and cool monster concepts and kinda just did nothing with the zone itself

[stark mural]

[rigid cypress]

[stark mural]

thanks to the interactive map

silksong is finally true 100%

name one thing i havent done

[vale kelp]

cursed glass soul

[stark mural]

in game

not mods

[warm egret]

Act 1 Mount Fay

[stark mural]

i wanna try that

they used sharp dart and beast crest

but really thats more of a challenge rather than completion

[warm egret]

All needolin lore rooms

[daring niche]

guys

GUYS I DID IT

YAXAXAXA

[rigid cypress]

Yeah you should totally do Act 1 62%

[rigid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-what-confused-gif-24490283

What could this POSSIBLY be ranked by

[slate sky]

Who actually falls for those scams out of curiosity. Like it can’t be no one or it wouldn’t be worth the trouble

[balmy urchin]

I love Cloth so much!!!

[minor geyser]

Anyone have any tips for ||the ForeBrothers||?

[rigid cypress]

Magma Bell.

[minor geyser]

Polip pouch in C???

[rigid cypress]

Pollip Pouch kinda falls off hard as soon as you get Quick Sling

[minor geyser]

Well yeah that's obvious

[real dagger]

||wanderer||

[minor geyser]

Where's quick sling?

[rigid cypress]

Uhhh then atp, you're gonna want your piercing damage

[real dagger]

||bilewater||

[minor geyser]

K thanks

[rigid cypress]

Since it's 2 guys, you're gonna wanna hit both as much as you can

[minor geyser]

Ok where do I get that I'll get it when I play

[minor geyser]

I hate that place

[real dagger]

I didn't sit a lot of time considering the tiers. Just like 3 min

[minor geyser]

Groal was easy though in my opinion

[rigid cypress]

Pollip Pouch in C is NOT what is wrong with that list

Actually rage bait tho I think

Or just a joke. Could be either.

[minor geyser]

What do you use for the tier list anyway

[real dagger]

nothing (:

[minor geyser]

Pollip pouch is a good early game tool upgrader

[minor geyser]

Oh then how do you make it

[rigid cypress]

Like are we fr putting Needle Phial in S and Flintslate in F

[minor geyser]

Ik

[real dagger]

the phial allows completing a quest

[rigid cypress]

You have Snare Setter in F

[minor geyser]

Nah the electric things in C but the three-way pins in A is crazy

[rigid cypress]

Threefold Pin ain't bad but better than Voltvessels???

[minor geyser]

Is volt vessel the one that effects your spell things? I'm used to hk still

[rigid cypress]

Oh, you meant Volt Filament

Voltvessels is the Red Tool

Still, it's in B, which is below Threefold

[minor geyser]

Ok it's that I used volt vessel to kill groal the great like instantly he just sucked me in once and he was dead

And I use it for many more than just that BC you can use it before/ after healing

[rigid cypress]

Also, it has two versions :3

[minor geyser]

And cogflies and pollip pouch used against lace use 3 when she's at 690 health and she goes to her next phase then throw them out and she goes to next phase again

[rigid cypress]

Yeah tbh, Red Tools need a bit of a nerf

[minor geyser]

Yeah 🤣

Like it makes some bosses easy but sometimes they don't help AT ALL

[rigid cypress]

Gotta choose the right ones

[minor geyser]

Yeah

How'd this go from ForeBrothers to this???

[rigid cypress]

Tools or whatever

[minor geyser]

Yeah wait what the tool you said to use

[rigid cypress]

Uhhh lemme think, I think Sting Shard could help here, Tacks too

[minor geyser]

Umm it was pierce shot?

[sand quartz]

Ragebait list

[minor geyser]

That's what we said

[sand quartz]

SIXTY TWO???

[real dagger]

xd

[sand quartz]

Bruh I'm only like 40% in

[rigid cypress]

Yeah it involves a lot of funky shit

[sand quartz]

Do I really just have to grind money for the rest

I feel like I already did most of the main stuff

[rigid cypress]

You don't (and shouldn't) do 62% Act 1 if it's ur first time playing

[sand quartz]

It isn't

[rigid cypress]

It's the absolute max you can get and involves a lot of funky skips

Oh nvm yeah it has some funny shit

Mount Fay, notably

[minor geyser]

I did mount fay early too

[rigid cypress]

In act 1? Zamn

[sand quartz]

Can't check rn but I feel like I've got a lot of it done

[minor geyser]

I didn't realise you needed clawline for it

[sand quartz]

Probably just have random stuff to fetch left

[rigid cypress]

Probably just buying tools or whatever

Tools are like 60% of completion or whatever

[minor geyser]

And parts you need double jump for I can skip if I bind at the right time

[rigid cypress]

Wait you got double jump?