sk-lore

[limpid summit]

What

[stray grove]

“seems like the sort of vague vision trope you’d see in media” lmao

[gentle aspen]

“The theory cooks” and “it has no evidence” are mutually exclusive terms

[limpid summit]

That’s not my evidence? I specifically said that did I not

Your animosity bleeds through

[cedar sandal]

I mean

[lapis creek]

that is what would happen if that's what the god said. from what i can tell people dont want to engage with my point so i wont bother continuing

[stray grove]

Yeah bro the kind of vague vision you’d stop seeing if you laid off the gulka juice

[cedar sandal]

its a fun thought experiment.

[limpid summit]

Attack my theory in good faith please

[stray grove]

I said reasoning not evidence

Or lack thereof

There’s no evidence

[limpid summit]

TK is shown kneeling at the beginning of the cutscene and looking up into THK’s eyes

[gentle aspen]

That doesn’t mean PK would take their place?

[silk dirge]

bros about to propose to thk?

[limpid summit]

If he was like drawn into a vision that’s where he would be

Waking up getting adjusted

[gentle aspen]

based on what???

[limpid summit]

Checking out the lay of the land

[gentle aspen]

you can’t just support claims with more claims

[limpid summit]

Logic??

[lone folio]

Everytime he goes into or out of a dream that happens

[limpid summit]

Yes

[cedar sandal]

also btw

[gentle aspen]

that’s not logic you’re just going “oh tk looks around so clearly pk would take their place since they’re getting oriented”

[lone folio]

So everytime the knight dies on failed champion that's the PKs vision

[stray grove]

idk what your point is but it doesn’t really matter because irrespective of what you tell someone it’s absurd to claim that could possibly lead to their implicit biases disappearing which is what was being discussed here

[lone folio]

I understand now

[limpid summit]

Who knows PK could have been looking top down or through the fourth wall

It doesn’t matter really

[spark valve]

it's not like tk has as much reason to be

[cedar sandal]

this is already a theory on reddit
You can legit search on "phantheon 4 cutscene theory" and you get it.

[gentle aspen]

if they were looking top down that quite literally breaks your theory more

[limpid summit]

THK (and TK though PK would have just taken whichever one came first if he saw them) is front and center

[silk dirge]

apple what the fuck kinda shit did you take

[stray grove]

@limpid summit oh how the mighty have fallen

[silk dirge]

im sorry 😭

[gentle aspen]

He’d note the knight kneeling and seeming to be the only one actually moving or really reacting

[spark valve]

and can I have some

[gentle aspen]

He’d choose them INSTEAD OF THE HOLLOW KNIGHT

[stray grove]

You’ve stooped to stealing theories from Reddit now?

[limpid summit]

That’s my Reddit account

And I can prove it too

[gentle aspen]

No it isn’t

[lapis creek]

im not sure i understand could you add some more italics please so i know which words to focus on

[limpid summit]

It literally is

[gentle aspen]

sure man

[stray grove]

Ok

[gentle aspen]

“Guys its totally my reddit posf”

[limpid summit]

Alright bro

[gentle aspen]

I’m not engaging anymore

[silk dirge]

i think apple bound the alchemist crest from sea of sorrow irl 😭

[limpid summit]

You think PK got his foresight from a bird’s eye view

[gentle aspen]

Your theory rests on the Pale King going “oh man I’m clearing my eyes and seeing THK”

[stray grove]

idk what your point is but it doesn’t really matter because irrespective of what you tell someone it’s absurd to claim that could possibly lead to their implicit biases disappearing which is what was being discussed here

[gentle aspen]

You YOURSELF admit it doesn’t matter how he sees it

[gentle aspen]

Then this wouldn’t be a point!

[edgy nebula]

this argument is lame

[lapis creek]

OHHHHH

[gentle aspen]

Therefore he wouldn’t laser focus on the hollow knight

He’d focus on the player character

[lapis creek]

yeah that wasnt really my point but sure

[limpid summit]

The post is mine but I first proposed it months before I even made it

[gentle aspen]

The one who shows the most changes and/or agency in said vision

Or hell

He’d see the massive amounts of vessels and take all of them

[spark valve]

what kirb's saying is that people who are racist have cognitive blocks and excuses in place that a god couldn't just remove simply by talking to them

[gentle aspen]

Why would he think a single one would be the answer

How did he come up with vessel purity based on this foresight theory

[lone folio]

Why wouldn't the pale king just pick every vessel from that room? All of them seem to be much more important then the thousands that litter the abyss floor

[limpid summit]

Well vessel purity doesn’t exist

[gentle aspen]

there are so many genuine holes here and you keep “hum huffaw”-ing them all

[limpid summit]

His foresight theory would have been his own thoughts

[lone folio]

Why would he let such important characters from his vision just die

[limpid summit]

Things he extrapolated

[gentle aspen]

okay yeah I’m not engaging with this anymore

because that’s not the point

[cedar sandal]

Both sides are being ass lowkey
someone being pushy with a theory
overly harsh people

[limpid summit]

No it fully is the point what

He came up with the idea of vessel purity

[stray grove]

You can’t tell someone to stop doing something they literally don’t realize they’re doing

[gentle aspen]

Vessel purity was something integral to the project

[lapis creek]

all of this text is opaque to me chief im gonna need you to bold some of it

[gentle aspen]

You can’t go “well it doesn’t exist” when he got the idea for a vessel from foresight

[limpid summit]

He saw his offspring Rad and the void

[cedar sandal]

then don't omfg

[limpid summit]

He’s a scientist he could have come up with a logical conclusion

[silk dirge]

apple hop off the plasmium

[limpid summit]

Vessel purity is something he’d have to come up with are you really arguing anything else

[stray grove]

Guys stop entertaining this baseless nonsense it’s against the rules

[gentle aspen]

I’m not, I said I’m done
Don’t appreciate this type of comment

don’t do it again

[stray grove]

Apple has admitted to having literally no evidence

[gentle aspen]

‘S not against the rules just rude to me

[foggy fractal]

Joker did you see the new hk patch and some of the asset changes

[stray grove]

Why is still still ongoing

[foggy fractal]

well one of them I'm aware of

[silk dirge]

did they change anything else

[spark valve]

So uh how about them slabflies

[gentle aspen]

No

[silk dirge]

its so funny they changed specifically that

[spark valve]

Did they remove little weavers

[stray grove]

Yeah let’s talk about that instead

[edgy nebula]

no but they fixed the dreamer doorway leading from the black egg

[foggy fractal]

apparently they changed the texture for binded masks in pantheons but that's just what someone else told me I haven't checked

[edgy nebula]

the masks are correct now

[silk dirge]

they fixed this

[lone folio]

That's cool

[edgy nebula]

good lord lets not

[gentle aspen]

are you serious

[cedar sandal]

Holy shit

[stray grove]

I think the Slabflies would actually be pretty neat in the context of the citadel if TC didn’t decide to make Hornet a terrible person

[gentle aspen]

that’s random

neat but random

[silk dirge]

yes 😭

[foggy fractal]

hop on hk and spend 10 minutes to find out
that is if you have steam that is

[limpid summit]

Alright

[silk dirge]

i checked it myself

[limpid summit]

Next

[spark valve]

They are neat the like one bad entry doesn’t have to totally sour them

[stray grove]

We always complain about the Slabfly entries

Let’s instead talk about what’s good about them for a change

[silk dirge]

yeah and that doesnt mean we should discuss it again its like the most annoying topic when it comes up 😭

[gentle aspen]

Hornet was socialized by the Citadel

[foggy fractal]

@silk dirge can you confirm

[edgy nebula]

very good for the story, very tragic characters

[spark valve]

They’re an evocative example of the line between victim and perpetrator being blurred

[stray grove]

er more than one entry but yes

[gentle aspen]

She’s used to the opulence of the citadel and their cleanliness

[silk dirge]

i can look

[foggy fractal]

thanks

[gentle aspen]

So since the slab is meant to be “othered” by the citadel as sinners and Hornet’s thoughts mimic this

[silk dirge]

im not surprised they didnt fix the fountain

[blissful harbor]

quick someone check the little weaver entry see it it got retconned

[limpid summit]

Someone check on Weavenest Herrah

[spark valve]

That has a whole ass cutscene with them would be more work to change

[gentle aspen]

can you blow my whistle baby

[edgy nebula]

weavenest sheeran

[foggy fractal]

imagine 😭 that'd be so funny

[lone folio]

Sheeran is canon

[silk dirge]

yeah

[lone folio]

Holy shit

[foggy fractal]

oh yeah the fountain isn't changed though lmao !

[frosty beacon]

chat what if skong and hk had dream theory like fnaf /silly

[gentle aspen]

They aren’t that bad of writers

they’re not good

But that’s genuine awful writing

[spark valve]

It does and it’s more viable and well supported than what apple was gabbing about

[silk dirge]

OH YEAH THATS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT

[lone folio]

Oh what

[frosty beacon]

oh what, huge

[cedar sandal]

let it go man🥀

[spark valve]

HK not ss

[silk dirge]

why did they change that

im curious

[gentle aspen]

that makes sense

[limpid summit]

Rent free

[gentle aspen]

Previously they just looked like bronze masks

Now they’re just sealed

[silk dirge]

i see

[spark valve]

Oh make no mistake you’re getting billed

[limpid summit]

You’re getting billed 😈😈😈

[edgy nebula]

honestly apple egg is right though, the deepnest weavenest should totally be looked at, im sure they changed stuff there

[muted lantern]

Someone check the weaver song entry pls, I'm curious if they kept one line in it

[lone folio]

They stick out a bit with how simple the masks are but it makes sense

[stray grove]

Why would they change Weaversong

[visual glacier]

This is the current one for reference

[foggy fractal]

wowie

[sinful nimbus]

That seems more important 🥀

[tawdry flare]

No way did they actually release the retcon patch

[silk dirge]

did no one ever check if they fixed the vaultborn entry

[stray grove]

Weaversong is fine though

[edgy nebula]

check midwife dialogue, check lore tablets, check it all, we must see if they retconned herrah

[sinful nimbus]

You called it stupid writing like two days ago

[stray grove]

It’s stupid writing because it’s not followed up on

[spark valve]

it is but it doesn't like need to be changed

[muted lantern]

Patch notes: removed herrah

[sinful nimbus]

Its called removing stupid writing

[stray grove]

That’s an issue with SS not HK

[edgy nebula]

herrahbrine

[gentle aspen]

the issue isn’t with the first game for having the plot thread?

[stray grove]

I mean the HK Weaversong entry isn’t stupid

[gentle aspen]

The issue is with the second for not following up with it

[sinful nimbus]

Now it is

[visual glacier]

Did anyone check

[sinful nimbus]

No one would care about the second game not following up on it if they removed it 🥀

[foggy fractal]

it is more important but tbf it has been like this for almost 8 years
no idea why tc decided to change some small things now though, maybe when they were deciding to fix some stuff for switch 2 they were bothered by it who knows

[stray grove]

Me when I’m in an arguing in bad faith competition and my opponents are Starpengu | Watch Nausicaa and AppleEgg

[gentle aspen]

Don’t

[limpid summit]

Serious hat wojak

[muted lantern]

[silk dirge]

wait mods being here again means we cant post the first sinner shruth nuke gif anymore

😭

[frosty beacon]

damn

[gentle aspen]

Again

don’t

[stray grove]

Can I get a

[gentle aspen]

Not a meme channel

[foggy fractal]

don't worry Joker will get fed up with the channel eventually and leave

[frosty beacon]

these are reaction gifs smh

[muted lantern]

This is a serious chatroom guys only slabfly discussion allowed

[visual glacier]

Calm down bud

[frosty beacon]

but ok

[foggy fractal]

noooo

[silk dirge]

we must discuss lace's age

[gentle aspen]

At that point I’d just step down

[tawdry flare]

Blue Joker…

[silk dirge]

make joker into a hoker

[tawdry flare]

PLASMIFIED JOKER??

[stray grove]

Ok on a real can this topic be banned

Like genuinely

[foggy fractal]

nooo this server needs you jojoker

[cedar sandal]

Can we talk about how majestic PV is and how they deserve a game of their own.
thank you

[tawdry flare]

Okay as long as the consensus is that she is a child as clearly stated by the game

[gentle aspen]

eh

[silk dirge]

i wish

[spark valve]

surely it is

[muted lantern]

Camera would need to be really zoomed out

[edgy nebula]

lowkey yeah make a hk-announcement saying lace is a child and to not ship her

[gentle aspen]

They’re majestic but there isn’t much to be had with a game

[foggy fractal]

surely...

[lone folio]

It has slowed down our progress immensely

[spark valve]

pv's storyline is pretty resolved

[cedar sandal]

A heros redemption arc where they actually get to save a kingdom

[silk dirge]

also pv is way too big for a game of their own

[limpid summit]

Nope

It was resolved in dnm

[visual glacier]

Let’s talk about how fleas canonically say “Awoo!”

[stray grove]

EtV is bad for many reasons and one of those reasons is that it’s a worse ending for THK

[limpid summit]

Now it has a shell

It’s got more stuff to do with that tortured body

Good job TC

[tawdry flare]

Please don’t tell TC they can make more games based off of different endings they’ll never stop

[sinful nimbus]

OK do you have a counterargument

[gentle aspen]

The whole purpose of their story is that they aren’t the one who saved their kingdom though?

[sinful nimbus]

I think if they removed this discrepancy the narrative would be better

[stray grove]

You can think what you want

[muted lantern]

I think we should remove the knight from hollow knight, too problematic

[cedar sandal]

Yes, they failed, thus the redemption arc, where they succeed.

[limpid summit]

Separating my phantom figure from the others and locking it in a cabinet forever

[spark valve]

slowly dissolve it in a weak acid

[gentle aspen]

They’re dead in almost every ending except one and in dream no more they help them succeed?

[edgy nebula]

what do we think lace's mental/physical age is actually? like younger teenager?

[gentle aspen]

you kinda seem to be rewriting their arc here

[cedar sandal]

even better if they are saving a kingdom for lifeblood
Failed against a infection, won't fail again to another infection

[visual glacier]

Look at this very important lore member of the moth tribe

[silk dirge]

yeah

[gentle aspen]

I do not want to do this

[edgy nebula]

ok yeah makes sense

[silk dirge]

oh fuck nah

bomb markoth

[cedar sandal]

Listen.
Pv is hot and I just want more of them
Please understand.

[stray grove]

Oh my god

[stray grove]

I hate it here bruh

Get me out

[silk dirge]

what is hornets age in higher being years

[foggy fractal]

2

[limpid summit]

It’s a valid discussion to not want to have but don’t pile on bobbitt

That was a question asked in good faith

[cedar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-4594523742914133487

[tawdry flare]

I don’t think there is a higher being years scale

[cedar sandal]

oh my goodnesss....

[gentle aspen]

I should genuinely drink myself to death

[blissful harbor]

did you just call a bug hot

a literal stick figure

[stray grove]

PV isn’t a bug 🤓

[spark valve]

pv is a soul mage with a lot of soul in it whose body glows white when it casts spells so it is probably physically hot at least when doing that let's all pretend that's what was meant ok

[visual glacier]

Not a bug lowkey

[foggy fractal]

aren't you already Dead though ? its in your name

[gentle aspen]

I’m tired boss

[foggy fractal]

who's boss ? Admins ?

[spark valve]

hi tired boss

[frosty beacon]

then go to sleep

[gentle aspen]

lingering around the mortal coil type shi

[foggy fractal]

true true

[silk dirge]

bro got revived by the haunting

[limpid summit]

How does Garmond stay on Zaza waving a giant counterweight around

[tawdry flare]

Okay but you gotta admit that was really funny

[limpid summit]

There’s no stirrups

[visual glacier]

He’s strong

[cedar sandal]

this can be me with them fr fr

[gentle aspen]

in a morbid sort of way

[gentle aspen]

Stop.

[tawdry flare]

It’s starting to get less funny

[silk dirge]

zazas just

really heavy

[foggy fractal]

morbidly a beast

[edgy nebula]

ok, how do we think moorwing knows how to swim

[silk dirge]

what if zaza has like a ton of uranium in him

[muted lantern]

Mr beast?

[silk dirge]

weighing him down

[edgy nebula]

i dont think those arms and legs can get him anywhere

[stray grove]

No

[visual glacier]

To catch escaping workers from swimming away

[foggy fractal]

yeah

[edgy nebula]

fair enough yeah

[cedar sandal]

they are so strong they penerate the walls around them as they walk
entire map is breakable

[muted lantern]

Do you think moorwing was someone's beloved pet once

[stray grove]

“Moths are pacifists”
HK fans:

No

[silk dirge]

this was an official concept at some point i think

[edgy nebula]

it's fun to think about but no he's probably a starved and abused animal

[muted lantern]

Poor doggy

[visual glacier]

Probably an early trobbio

[silk dirge]

i could see that

[muted lantern]

Trobbio!!

[silk dirge]

i kind of want to get a trobbio figurine but 15 dollars for a figurine is crazy 😭

[muted lantern]

Do you guys think tormented trobbio would light the nightmare lantern

[gentle aspen]

yes

[silk dirge]

24 dollars for the poster was enough for me

[visual glacier]

I need an answer please

[silk dirge]

tree

[frosty beacon]

the fading in s is crazy

[stray grove]

I think in a future SS DLC the GT will visit Pharloom and that Trobbio will join them

[silk dirge]

convert co2 into oxygen

[muted lantern]

She asks for the manager

[gentle aspen]

births vessels
gives us half of kingsoul
prompts us to go to the abyss and gain void heart

[craggy smelt]

what doesn't she do

[visual glacier]

See

[gentle aspen]

She’s a lot of things

[frosty beacon]

gives us everbloom

[silk dirge]

does wl convert co2 into oxygen

[gentle aspen]

including wrong on vessel purity

[silk dirge]

very important question

[sinful nimbus]

No that'd be a distortion of nature

[gentle aspen]

but she’s integral to the story

[craggy smelt]

Pale King hooo~

[foggy fractal]

she doesn't play video games

[muted lantern]

CO2 into dead babies

[tawdry flare]

Can you prove this

[limpid summit]

Bro biting my theory 💔

[stray grove]

Do you think Trobbio cares

[limpid summit]

I thought everything that came out of my mouth was nonsense

I guess you’re willing to pick and choose

[sinful nimbus]

I bet you would

[stray grove]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

[limpid summit]

Yes

[sinful nimbus]

"Oh wow trobbio is so evil because he wants to live forever"

[limpid summit]

This and the foresight

[craggy smelt]

hands free

got those roots

[muted lantern]

So is trobbio just stupid or is he trying to kill hornet

[spark valve]

the monkeys on typewriters finally wrote shakespeare

[stray grove]

I mean the volunteers don’t necessarily want to live forever

[visual glacier]

He doesn’t care if someone dies in their performance that’s all

[foggy fractal]

yes
TC told me

[spark valve]

better analogy since apple isn't right twice a day 🥱

[craggy smelt]

Vespa: "To rail against nature is folly."

[foggy fractal]

an apple a day keeps the doctors away :D

[unique canopy]

He does his own stunts

[silk dirge]

bye bye yarnaby

[stray grove]

True!

[silk dirge]

did bellhart just get an apple to scare yarnaby

[visual glacier]

“His desire to see Pharloom saved may have been well intentioned, but he seemed quite happy for others to die upon the stage in pursuit of his goal.”

[foggy fractal]

yes

[sinful nimbus]

They're helping a dude live so they hate nature and are evil

[gentle aspen]

I’m going to have to ask users to stop making rude comments towards other users here

You know who you are

[sinful nimbus]

Hippie

[stray grove]

Holy bad faith

[sinful nimbus]

Not you Joker

[gentle aspen]

I wish I was a hippie

maybe then I’d be less of a disappointment

wow that came out of nowhere

apologies

[foggy fractal]

what if we made kind comments towards other users here instead ?

[visual glacier]

Fact: a delayed clock is right less times than a broken one

[foggy fractal]

is that true

[silk dirge]

then sk lore would cease to exist

[sinful nimbus]

Bad faith? You seem to be doing just fine in that department Mr King's Brand

[silk dirge]

how could we have this channel without constant arguments

[foggy fractal]

insert thanos turning to dust gif

[cedar sandal]

what if we talk about PV

[stray grove]

A mod has asked you to cool it with the rude comments

[gentle aspen]

No

[foggy fractal]

nah pv is poop mwahahaha

[stray grove]

I don’t want to hear you talk about PV

[cedar sandal]

no simping I promise

[gentle aspen]

You’ve made your stance on that character quite clear I think

[sinful nimbus]

Ugh

[stray grove]

Who wants to hear me talk about PK

[limpid summit]

Literally nobody

[sinful nimbus]

I'm sorry I woke up on the wrong side of bed I can't be here

[foggy fractal]

shame

[gentle aspen]

not a single person

[silk dirge]

you woke up on the left side of the bed instead of the right?

rip

[stray grove]

Tough crowd huh

[limpid summit]

Are you all right

No you are all all left

[gentle aspen]

there was an uncle grandpa episode about this

[cedar sandal]

do you think pk would be dissapointed in PV

[stray grove]

No

[foggy fractal]

looking left cuz ts ain't right ! ahh

[gentle aspen]

No

[muted lantern]

Why is this chat so goddamn bitter today

[sinful nimbus]

Yes it let the kingdom down

[gentle aspen]

he believed it was his fault PV failed

[limpid summit]

Welcome to the club new user

[visual glacier]

He’s disappointed in himself

[gentle aspen]

he’d place the blame on himself

[silk dirge]

they didnt get sufganiyot so theyre angry

[gentle aspen]

he’s a very self deprecating character despite his hubristic actions

[sinful nimbus]

?

[silk dirge]

this channel needs some sufganiyot

[sinful nimbus]

That doesn't seem like a satisfying end to his character

[silk dirge]

i think tammo would agree

[foggy fractal]

what is that

[visual glacier]

Literally the whole point of path of pain

[gentle aspen]

that’s like, the point of path of pain

[sinful nimbus]

No it ain't dawg

[gentle aspen]

Don’t fall for the deez nuts joke man

[silk dirge]

chanukah jelly donuts

[gentle aspen]

Oh wat

[visual glacier]

What’s the point then

[gentle aspen]

well i don’t want donuts

[spark valve]

you know true

[sinful nimbus]

Path of Pain is a memory he sealed away it says nothing about his philosophy as to why the kingdom failed

[limpid summit]

That’s extremely offensive

[spark valve]

I need to find a recipe for those actually

[gentle aspen]

apologies

I’ve seen too many similar words that led to those jokes

[foggy fractal]

image for reference

[sinful nimbus]

Are we to believe he thought he personally messed the project up instead of coming to terms with the fact that his pursuit of an eternal kingdom was futile

That's bad writing

[limpid summit]

My favorite spirits glade ghost is lowkey cema

[gentle aspen]

yeah?

[stray grove]

Can I have some

Please

[silk dirge]

i dont even know how to cook 😭

[sinful nimbus]

King I know how much you love to talk about PK can you back me up here

[silk dirge]

i can cook pasta

[spark valve]

I think it would be hard to mail them

[silk dirge]

thats about it

[limpid summit]

Of course not

No cost too great hesitation

[sinful nimbus]

Is this a Deez Nuts joke

[limpid summit]

There was a cost too great to perpetuate his rule

[limpid summit]

No

[spark valve]

frying stuff is fun and easy you should give it a shot sometime

[sinful nimbus]

yes it is dawg

[silk dirge]

bold assumption i have time 😭

[stray grove]

My favorite spirits glade ghost is dez

[spark valve]

fair enough

[visual glacier]

I like thistlewind

[silk dirge]

anyways back on topic

i like the karaka looking ghost

i dont think theres any relation

[stray grove]

Do you like dez

[silk dirge]

he just has aura

[visual glacier]

No

[foggy fractal]

my favourite spirits glade spirit is atra and garro
millybug is pretty chill too

[muted lantern]

Who's the most divorced character in hollow knight?

[limpid summit]

Anyway sorry yes

[cedar sandal]

do you know who has aura in hk

[stray grove]

Probably Hornet

[silk dirge]

no

[limpid summit]

Revek is probably up there why did they randomly make one backer’s ghost more engaging than the others

[silk dirge]

dont say it

[limpid summit]

TC playing favorites

[visual glacier]

Her mates died

Not divorced

[silk dirge]

did they pay more

[muted lantern]

She took their lives in the divorce

[cedar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-vessel-the-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-pure-vessel-my-beloved-the-hollow-knight-my-beloved-gif-4255910895807286463

[silk dirge]

p2w damn 😭

[limpid summit]

What character do we think Sharpe will sound most like

[gentle aspen]

@givethistlewindagame

oh.

[foggy fractal]

epic fail

[limpid summit]

Probably not they’re more interesting than a ghost but not NOC level

[visual glacier]

Theydied of old age

[stray grove]

You don’t know about Hornet’s love life

[visual glacier]

Yes I do

[muted lantern]

I... I was joking...

[stray grove]

They all died eventually yes

Her outliving them doesn’t mean they didn’t get divorced beforehand

[visual glacier]

Yeah

[limpid summit]

I’ll go spread the word…

[visual glacier]

So who do you think is the most divorced?

[stray grove]

Hornet

[cedar sandal]

since PV is half pale
and pale beings nature is to

nvm

I wont say it

[visual glacier]

Other than her

[stray grove]

Her mates all realized what a terrible person she was

[stray grove]

Hmm

Good question

[gentle aspen]

They’re not half pale

Both their parents were pale beings

[foggy fractal]

true

[cedar sandal]

75% pale sorry

no

[visual glacier]

Half pale half pale half void

[cedar sandal]

66% pale

33% void

[stray grove]

I don’t think that’s how paleness works

[gentle aspen]

ok mate

[stray grove]

TK THK and Hornet are all described as pale

[cedar sandal]

okay but do vessels have the instinct of wanting to dominate

[lone folio]

PV is a fully pale higher beings corpse brought back to life by void

[cedar sandal]

or void cancels that out

[stray grove]

Not a higher being

[lone folio]

?

[stray grove]

I mean we don’t know whether or not it would have developed into a higher being

[tawdry flare]

What are you attempting to imply here

[stray grove]

I think you know

[silk dirge]

actually speaking of this fatbrett's weaver video does have a pretty big timeline error but i think his pharlid analysis was pretty good

[cedar sandal]

this is a very important question

[stray grove]

Who the fuck is fatbrett 😭

[muted lantern]

Well, higher beings are those that are above all others... And pv is pretty tall... /J

[sinful nimbus]

Analyzing evil

[visual glacier]

How many straight(as far as we know) hk characters can everyone name? I got PK, Kratt, plinney, herrah and WL

[silk dirge]

youtuber who makes lore analysis videos of various games

[sinful nimbus]

Extreme yapper

[silk dirge]

his silksong videos have been pretty good but not without errors

[sinful nimbus]

Bro has a 30 minute video on sherma

[edgy nebula]

THE
FORSAKEN
CHILD

[cedar sandal]

would take herra out

[visual glacier]

How come?

[muted lantern]

Maybe sly? If esmy was a partner

[tawdry flare]

Ma’am I think you need to chill before you get banned

[muted lantern]

But nothing is confirmed there

[stray grove]

🥀

[silk dirge]

but basically he was saying pharlids were weak bugs who basically only wanted to hold onto their territory

which evolved with them when they became weavers

[cedar sandal]

she just needed a child
she didn't love pk

[silk dirge]

into a desire to dominate and have something be theirs

[visual glacier]

Fair enough

[silk dirge]

and i think its a pretty good analysis even if the rest of the video is silly

he still thinks gms imprisoned fs 😭

[unique tangle]

https://youtu.be/kD0EZHwb9Zo

[visual glacier]

Ok so PK, WL, Plinney, Melatolla, Kratt

[spark valve]

I don't really think that serves the themes that well to have it be a baked in instinct for weavers but whatever

[visual glacier]

Anyone else

[stray grove]

… it being instinctual would undermine the main themes of the game though

[lone folio]

I mean it probably wouldn't be anywhere close to as powerful as PK.

[stray grove]

So true

[lone folio]

I do remember something about Hornet being mentioned to be a part of the "higher cast"?

[visual glacier]

Zi

[silk dirge]

that was fast

[silk dirge]

mask maker

[stray grove]

Zi isn’t actually saying Hornet is a HB

[unique tangle]

he was outsped by all the shorts slop creators sadly

[visual glacier]

She’s says that she’s higher

[stray grove]

Higher in that context more likely refers to beings with free agency though

[unique tangle]

they all had their shorts out within the hours

[silk dirge]

yeah

theres so much bad analysis lol

[visual glacier]

EVA DLC?!?!???

[silk dirge]

people who think coral gorge is still coming back need to be muted 😭

its gone

[edgy nebula]

the top 3 short slop creators are braid arcade, jeremy bentham, and that one vtuber guy lowkey

[silk dirge]

we need to accept that

[edgy nebula]

no its not.... it's coming.... it has to be

[lone folio]

Yeah and they all spread misinformation

[silk dirge]

i swear celeste chapter 9 could be changed to only be about silksong fans and coral gorge and itd still work 😭

[visual glacier]

Chat what’s your opinion

[edgy nebula]

jeremy bentham is the only kind of okay shorts creator, he's pretty solid

braid arcade is lowkey the worst though

[visual glacier]

Are great conchflies lesbians

[cedar sandal]

yes.

[edgy nebula]

maybe, maybe not

[edgy nebula]

his videos are mostly pretty informative and im a fan, he lowkey looks old as shit though

[silk dirge]

yeah i guess that makes sense

anyways the most annoying people are the ones who think lightning = land of storms 😭

[lone folio]

That the guy who says like "here's the lore of the _______" or something like that

[edgy nebula]

yeah he's stupid

[lone folio]

Yeah it's sad how he doesn't do his research

[muted lantern]

I got railed on when I said the dome looks nothing like the godseeekers shit by people making that argument

[lone folio]

I remember him saying that fayforn is a moth

[edgy nebula]

he calls karmelita the strongest mortal bug and one of is sources is she has the second highest hp of every boss (which is wrong, khann's is higher)

[lone folio]

I threw my phone out the windows into the trash collector

[visual glacier]

Omg that video pissed me off

[gentle aspen]

@blissful harbor

[edgy nebula]

he says gms had a part in verdania's fall which is stupid

i think he deleted the video though

[lone folio]

He doesn't do his research

[frosty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/get-yo-ahh-on-boy-gif-26030997

that's so stupid

[muted lantern]

Fayforn is a fayforn

[spark valve]

That’s a common misconception and pretty easy one to make

[silk dirge]

yeah ellipse shaped sockets you need to insert something as a key arent exactly rare in hk

[edgy nebula]

yeah he also just hops on new games to make videos on, he left silksong and hopped on dispatch as soon as it got popular

[tawdry flare]

maybe he just likes both games

[muted lantern]

Dispatch is kinda overated, it's a neat story but your choices do not matter

[silk dirge]

i should checkout dispatch at some point

[spring escarp]

new mossbav video deopped

[silk dirge]

what genre is it

[lone folio]

Just making lore-rot on whichever video game is popular I see

[tawdry flare]

It’s a Telltalelike what was anyone expecting

[tawdry flare]

It’s a visual novel

[silk dirge]

i see

[muted lantern]

In a game that's entire schtick is making choices they should probably do shit, but anyway

[silk dirge]

i think right now im gonna check out crossover collab in celeste

[muted lantern]

Back to skong

[silk dirge]

this shit is gonna be peak

i just finished getting speedrun achievements in skong

[tawdry flare]

Like some kind of… indie cross?

[lone folio]

Really?

[foggy fractal]

yeah

[edgy nebula]

yes it's for sea of sorrow

[foggy fractal]

just a small video going over sea of sorrow though

[spring escarp]

yes

[silk dirge]

yeah basically a bunch of different games in celeste

[visual glacier]

There’s really not that much to analyze

[silk dirge]

i havent played it so idk

but it seems goated

[tawdry flare]

Is that official or is it like a mod

[silk dirge]

mod

celeste hasnt gotten official new content since 2019

[edgy nebula]

i hope we get like, some crab or barnacle boss

[silk dirge]

but mods are very endorsed by devs theyve played them on stream

anyways i do want to do steel soul before sea of sorrow

but silksong playthroughs are definitely exhausting with how large the game is

they are fun dont get me wrong

but i do need breaks between them

[foggy fractal]

what if instead of the sea of sorrow
we got the sky of happiness ?

🤔

[edgy nebula]

im a bit curious since this is my first time experiencing a hk dlc releasing, will we need to make new save slots to experience it or will we be able to walk in and complete it during act 3 or something

[silk dirge]

i believe it should just work

no need for new saves

[cedar sandal]

if you do good things you unlock that by the age of 80

[gentle aspen]

You’d only need to make a new save if it was locked to an earlier act

[edgy nebula]

wouldnt the dlc's map/dialogue also change drastically in act 3 though? as other areas in the game do

[silk dirge]

i mean we dont know how the dlc even would work

[blissful harbor]

what is this insane stray i just took

[silk dirge]

its possible its going to be post act 3

who knows

[edgy nebula]

fair yeah

[muted lantern]

Ground level of neutral emotion

[sinful nimbus]

I mean they can always make barnacle bay and an evil voided up barnacle bay

[foggy fractal]

most of the content in hk's dlcs were just accessible no matter which gamestate you are in
some like GPZ though I think you needed a new file if you let him die though ? something like that

[silk dirge]

i wonder if silksong will get once per save choices

[foggy fractal]

for silksong we don't know, I doubt TC is gonna make it so you can't do it if you're in act 3 but who knows

[silk dirge]

the only one i can think of rn is silkshot

[gentle aspen]

it’s the truth

[silk dirge]

which is pretty minor

compared to nailsmith and grimm

[foggy fractal]

oh yeah if you banish grimm troupe you don't get to fight nkg

[gentle aspen]

I hope not

[gentle aspen]

untrue

Godhome

[foggy fractal]

he appears in godhome if you banish ?

cool

[gentle aspen]

Yes

[foggy fractal]

anyway yeah I doubt TC is gonna make it an act 2 exclusive or whatever, though maybe some interactions changes and some options are gone

[cedar sandal]

it be a meta strat if you could avoid fighting him in p5 if you banished

[silk dirge]

i mean it could also be post act 3

who knows

[foggy fractal]

I doubt going through the trouble to banish would be faster than just fighting him once anyway

[silk dirge]

maybe setup for epilogue dlc that everyone wants

[foggy fractal]

yeah yeah what I'm saying is they're probably gonna make it so that once you have access to it, you will forever have access to it no matter what gamestate you're in

[silk dirge]

yeah

[foggy fractal]

considering how big it is too
new areas plural ? this is the biggest expansion ever

[silk dirge]

yeah no hk expansion ever really added areas

[edgy nebula]

im surprised they announced it so early, but theyre definitely reusing alot of assets so it makes sense

[silk dirge]

godhome is a new area but its not really an explorable one

[spring escarp]

You know what you be crazy? If SoS gave you an upgrade that let's you submerge in water and swim there, making every body of water in pharloom possibly hide something new

Probably not

[lone folio]

Oh no

[edgy nebula]

let us dive into the void sea

[lone folio]

I do not want to go through the entire map again 😭

[spring escarp]

That is why it would be sick

[lone folio]

That would be like silk soar all over again

[spring escarp]

Refresh the entire map

[spring escarp]

Exactly! Sick ain't it?

[edgy nebula]

silk soar was wasted potential ngl

[foggy fractal]

yeah a lot they have had in the works for a while, but just didn't get to it in the release

[edgy nebula]

there are like 7 spots you can silk soar too and none of them are very important except for obvious ones like karmelita

[spring escarp]

Yeah they didn't want to release it right now

[spring escarp]

Who cares I want the thrill of find some sensual hiden area

[distant wedge]

it also works horribly with navigating the game's map. there are a lot of vertical rooms that it is just incompatible with

[blissful harbor]

ok but like actually
having thunder after having the established land of storms
they knew people were gonna draw a connection and i will not stand for being treated like crazy for it

[spring escarp]

wait

It seems there is submarines on the thing right

The enter all water upgrade might be real

[foggy fractal]

yes the trailer does seem to show what is a submarine and we have seen what looks like a submarine in old maps from acmi

they also said we would be able to travel beneath the salt stricken waters

[spring escarp]

I hope there so some weird ahit on the waters of the moss grotto startinf water

Me when games put shit hidden on the start of the game

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[foggy fractal]

I doubt they're gonna do it

[silk dirge]

THIS SHIT IS WILD LMAO

[edgy nebula]

this is probably terrifying for quirrel

[silk dirge]

i love this

[spring escarp]

What if, Zilotol and zango had a dead relative and/or friend dead in the spire

And that is why they are so eager to experiment with lifeblood

Like they are trying to ressurect it

frankstein style

[silk dirge]

GRUBS AS BERRIES IS SO FUCKING GENIUS LMAO

[foggy fractal]

what is Madeline Celeste doing in Hallownest ?

[frosty beacon]

do you think hollow knight is ready for lesbians

[spring escarp]

NO

They increased the analog deadzone!!!!

I wanted NO deadzone

I NEED to comment something

How can I comment something

[distant vessel]

Can’t wait for switch 2 version of hollow knight 1

[halcyon merlin]

omg hollow knight clone

[distant vessel]

For my friend can play it in a even better version

[halcyon merlin]

hollow knight already has lesbians

[distant vessel]

Where did you find this???

[halcyon merlin]

ze'mer and traitor lord daughter

[sacred heath]

so anyway

[spring escarp]

what are the official community channels and public beta feedback secrions

[sacred heath]

we all agree we’re getting lifeblood shit in this dlc right

[spring escarp]

I NEED to have them let me change my deadzone

[edgy nebula]

yeah prolly

[halcyon merlin]

i mean

the trailer

[tawdry flare]

Pharloom Bay and Lifeblood Spire probably

[sacred heath]

i’m putting all my chips on black

lifeblood beast

calling it now

put it on my tombstone

[silk dirge]

celeste crossover collab

[craggy smelt]

Spire's gotta be where Zylotol's master is/was

those blue petal things look different from other lifeblood stuff - bigger certainly
almost like something's inside them...?

cocoons...?

[sharp torrent]

what bugs are the craw?

[edgy nebula]

ingame theyre called crawbugs

as for what theyre inspired by, probably some miscellaneous bug with a proboscis

[timber pond]

Fully grown lifeblood cocoon that actually spawned what it was meant to

Old as Heck lifeblood petals

[sinful nimbus]

Crows

[foggy fractal]

caw caw

🐦‍⬛

[craggy smelt]

the largest bugs

birds

[foggy fractal]

🗣️ I'm the biggest bird

[graceful grail]

Is this a crab 🦀 or an octopus 🐙??

[edgy nebula]

looks like just some decoration

nothing specific other than the shell insignia on the door

[graceful grail]

If the use of lifeblood is used to resserect some bug (maybe the gods of thunder and lightning) i called it.

Possable

Remember, the ONLY other time we have seen lightning of any form is the land of storms.

I think youl bind with that, Alchemist crest??

[gentle aspen]

We’ve seen electricity elsewhere though

[graceful grail]

Where

[edgy nebula]

voltnest

also charged lumaflies

[gentle aspen]

voltnest
charged lumaflies

[gentle aspen]

I will mute you

[edgy nebula]

:(

[graceful grail]

Ahh, true there on lumiflys

[gentle aspen]

Don’t ever say the thing before I do again

[graceful grail]

But that is electricity, NOT lightning

[smoky raven]

Guys the memetos necessary for 100%

[edgy nebula]

no mementos are entirely optional

also these questions are more suited for #sk-help

[smoky raven]

Really?????

[edgy nebula]

yeah

[smoky raven]

I have 99% what did i miss

[graceful grail]

Try eva, gn

[edgy nebula]

possibly mask shards, sylphsong, memory lockets, etc

[smoky raven]

Locked memory??

I need 3 more

[graceful grail]

U bind with Eva?

[smoky raven]

I got the crest

[graceful grail]

There is more

[smoky raven]

Wait

I open the game

[craggy smelt]

if the shrouded object in the trailer is another Crest-bearer, I wonder what it will be

Zylotol's master? Crest of the Alchemist?

[graceful grail]

Alchemist Crest prob

[craggy smelt]

wonder what that could do... be neat if it synergizes with certain tools, though that could wind up being restrictive

[graceful grail]

I dont think it will be tool based

[graceful grail]

Maybe it will change clawline??

[smoky raven]

I got ittt

100%

[craggy smelt]

in my head I keep defaulting to alchemical tool stuff, I can't picture what its base ability or bind would be

[graceful grail]

If clawline was diffrent that would be cool wether it is better of worse imo

[smoky raven]

I think i will do the mashrom ending

[graceful grail]

Now beat lace, then steel soul 100% next 😊

[craggy smelt]

I was thinking of a crest that turned your dash into a teleport (Dreamer)
basically what the SS version of shade cloak would be
but for a mad scientist, I don't know

[smoky raven]

I need the trophies first

[graceful grail]

Ok

[smoky raven]

I alr got 112% in hollow knight

And the trophies

[graceful grail]

Me 2

[smoky raven]

But silk song how tf can i beat the game 100% in 30h

[graceful grail]

Easy, i did it in 5hrs (steel)for getting to act 3. That is whats required.

You dont need to 100% that fast.

Also remember, now you know where to go

[smoky raven]

Yeh

But still its hard

[graceful grail]

Not rly, the bosses are a joke if you get wanders.

But i did steel soul 100% with beast so its easy.

[smoky raven]

Do you even see the sun

[graceful grail]

I killed it

[smoky raven]

[smoky raven]

Now i need the mashroom places

[graceful grail]

The quest says where they are, and you can always refrence it on your menu

[smoky raven]

I dont have the quest huuh

Wher can i found it

[graceful grail]

Try right of fleatopia

[smoky raven]

Which map

[graceful grail]

Top right as far as you can go

[smoky raven]

Alr

[smoky raven]

Got it

[silk dirge]

why is there like 20 things wrong in this image 💀

first of all

knight cant talk

second of all

"haunted" wrong kingdom bro

[craggy smelt]

these retcons are out of control

even retconned the visuals

[graceful grail]

Its ok, i’dd just enjoy it and close one eye to inconsistencys

[foggy fractal]

because whoever made the mod

1. doesn't care to be lore accurate
2. doesn't know what is lore accurate

[silk dirge]

true

[craggy smelt]

they sound gross

[graceful grail]

3. Dosent peek at HK-Lore Discord

[muted lantern]

What even is this

[silk dirge]

celeste crossover collab

[muted lantern]

like... an official collab?

[graceful grail]

Is ur profile pic a slugcat??

[silk dirge]

not official

celeste has a big modding scene

[blissful harbor]

tf kinda slugcats do you be seeing that look like that

[graceful grail]

GourGourMond

[muted lantern]

uhh... no

[tawdry flare]

Rotund World

[blissful harbor]

hes yellow chat

[muted lantern]

it's a fat ghost from off

hence phantasmal bodyweight builder

[graceful grail]

Lokk the same to me

[muted lantern]

the only similarity is the color bruh

[foggy fractal]

why is it named Off in the first place

what are they turning off ??

the lights ??

[muted lantern]

Uh thats the entire point of the game

the answer is like, the big twist

[foggy fractal]

nooo i don't wanna play this game just answer >:C

[keen raven]

put it in spoiler text

[grave stream]

i know this isnt lore but its a conspiracy so it's close

[hexed kindle]

Someone @ me if when the dlc comes out im right abt these points

1. New crest based on the alchemist
2. Thunder themed tools
3. The lab is outside pharloom or above it reaching the desolate wastes
4. Theres a submarine or diving bell submarine
5. Lifeblood higherbeing boss or alchemist boss

[grave stream]

the description of the yt video said "salt stricken seas"

ZOTEBOAT

or pharloom bay

or both

[muted lantern]

OFF spoilers || you play as a guy who's goal is to purify the world of "specters" everytime you purify an area of specters, you can return to that area and find it devoid of life. At the end of the game you learn that your purification is basically destroying the world. Which was always your protagonists goal (though the player isnt told that, off is kind of the origin of the deltarune player/protag separation thing.) The game ends with you coming to find the little boy who created this abstract world and beating him to death with a baseball bat. Throughout the game you are going throughout the world shutting the whole thing down piece by piece, like a disease slowly shutting down someones body. and ends with you flipping a final switch to end the world entirely, turning it OFF. it's speculated that the entire game is a metaphor for a father pulling the plug on his terminally ill child. but it's one of the most abstract games ever made so its very hotly debated whether thats really the case.||

[tawdry flare]

Holy yap

[muted lantern]

bro asked

[foggy fractal]

Holy peak

[grave stream]

personally i may be crazy but i think im actaully right with this theory:

zoteboat in pharloom bay sequal

[muted lantern]

brother you just posted this

[foggy fractal]

how old is Off btw ?

[tawdry flare]

Came out this year

[muted lantern]

very. old enough to be the inspiration for undertale

[muted lantern]

thats a remake

[tawdry flare]

And

[grave stream]

woah

[muted lantern]

it came out in 2008

[foggy fractal]

🧓

[muted lantern]

its essentially the reason for undertale and deltarunes metanarratives being how they are

[foggy fractal]

I remember an article with Toby Fox saying some stuff about Off

[muted lantern]

anyway my explanation is just one reading so youd have to play the game or watch some video essays to get your own picture. its one of those games.

[muted lantern]

he also made music for the remake.

[foggy fractal]

true

[muted lantern]

but yeah off is peam, it also has some really funny sprites like my pfp and THE WHALE

anyway back to the skong, idk how my pfp derailed the chat so hard

[foggy fractal]

not so much derailed but that theres nothing to talk about

I mean ig we can talk about Sea of Sorrow but we eventually hit a point where all we can say is "idk maybe"

[sinful nimbus]

The humble Isma Nyleth:

[tawdry shell]

There do is that one unused door in bilewater that leads towards that area so ye probbly

[muted lantern]

the batter and hornet have a lot in common, both love beating children to death

[tawdry flare]

As a wise man once said, “Hollow Knight has no lore”

[foggy fractal]

interesting

[foggy fractal]

continue

[muted lantern]

I thought you were against this one lol

[sinful nimbus]

What was she doing prior to rooting herself

[foggy fractal]

isma ?

[sinful nimbus]

No Nyleth

[foggy fractal]

idk

you tell me Star you tell me

[sinful nimbus]

Fighting in Seth's (Shakra's) tribe

[foggy fractal]

I was gonna say Seth looks nothing like Shakra and Shakra's master but realized that we don't really know what the others of the tribe looked like

[muted lantern]

im still praying they are antlions and lion village is their home

[tawdry flare]

Elder Hu…

[sinful nimbus]

Consider the shield effects

[robust wagon]

That's a theory

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yeah Elder Hu shares similarities with Shakra and her master but like Shakra and her master also look wayyy more similar to each other too

as if the tribe is only consisted of one species but we don't know

[limpid summit]

Always remember this one was mine too

In rain or shine

Glaze or drag

[sinful nimbus]

mb I'll make sure to credit you next time

[limpid summit]

No you don’t have to

I just need to make it clear

No matter how terrible or baseless

I stand on it

[muted lantern]

It seems likely they are just one species. shakras mentor isn't her birth mother, yet they seem to be the same species, so the tribe being majority one species seems likely to me.

[limpid summit]

I think elder hu is totally a member of the tribe

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yep what I was thinking

[limpid summit]

Metawise the species is just so you can go on it’s her mom and then realize it’s a found family type thing

Iunno

[muted lantern]

This is why I like the lion village idea

[limpid summit]

Seth I’m not dying on that hill though I do like the hc

But Hu totally

Wout a doubt

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theres also the fact that we haven't seen any males from the tribe

[muted lantern]

Considering we only see her mentors corpse at the same time when we get that information I don't see why.

[limpid summit]

Visual thrill iunno

Yeah maybe Hu is just a male version of that species

[muted lantern]

hu is?

hu are we talking about rn

[spark valve]

no hu's on first

[muted lantern]

Shakras mentor would be better at baseball anyway

[craggy smelt]

Doctor Hu's on first...

[limpid summit]

I don’t know

[gentle aspen]

No, it’s what’s on second

[limpid summit]

Why?

[muted lantern]

so sad that they said theyd remember the elder but the headstone kept asking who

[limpid summit]

I completely forgot Hu also calls you child a ton

Is this evidence

[gentle aspen]

for what

[limpid summit]

Tribe

Elder Hu had healing as his “craft skill”

[craggy smelt]

hee

[limpid summit]

Hu

Uh

Hu moor hornet

Hive Soldier

[edgy nebula]

what do these represent

[sturdy grove]

Anyone else thing sherma is a higher being

Ok

Also pls don’t call me buddy

[keen raven]

huu mite hornet bee?

what does this mean

wait

"who might hornet be?"

[craggy smelt]

close

hornet is the player character, controlled by...

[keen raven]

...you

[sinful nimbus]

Who might me be

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Starpengu ?

[limpid summit]

@gentle aspen Joker

[gentle aspen]

What

[limpid summit]

Want to hear something interesting

[gentle aspen]

what is it

[limpid summit]

So we call PK PK because of one thing right

And the Nightmare Heart is only mentioned once as a name too

Besides WL saying scarlet heart

But beyond that

Heart of Grimm

[gentle aspen]

sure

[limpid summit]

What if Grimm is actually NMH’s name

Like the heart

So Grimmchild works as a child of Grimm

I can tell your gears are turning

[gentle aspen]

I mean NKG already exists so sure

[limpid summit]

Can I say Grimm but mean NMH in discussions

[gentle aspen]

you’re just gonna confuse everyone but it is your prerogative to do so

[muted lantern]

so are the wisp thicket guys completely unrelated to grimm?

[craggy smelt]

completely

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as far as we know yes

[craggy smelt]

their freaky powers come from burning magic silk

[gentle aspen]

Awell

immolation

[craggy smelt]

(fire is awesome)

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nightmare flame and their magic flame seem fundamentally different

[craggy smelt]

everything white = pale beings
everything black = void
everything fire = grimm
everything lightning = godseekers

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one is based off of essence one is based (implied) off of soul

[muted lantern]

the only connection ive seen is a kinda similar teleport but thats nothing really

[frigid belfry]

aura farm connection

[limpid summit]

I used to think not but probably yes

Now I’m on the Old Hearts being related

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good one

everything heart = nightmare heart

[limpid dagger]

hi guys

[sonic solar]

hello

[edgy nebula]

everything RED = grimm

cause trobbio is clearly grimm troupe

[limpid summit]

How did the sanctum scholars subdue the snail

At that point at most they’d just have the teleport and the orbs

[sonic solar]

we never actually see the snail shamans fight

also they could be sleeping

[limpid summit]

True

Probably the latter

I mean all their spells are offensive

[sonic solar]

the only one thats alive cant clear out the armadillos from his house

he makes us do it

[lethal burrow]

I can't believe they're letting children see these spells nowadays smh

[muted lantern]

the wisp cultists seem so happy when they set themselves on fire, good for them 🙂

[edgy nebula]

their idle animation gets really depressed and then they point at you and kill themselves

hmm

[muted lantern]

They laugh when they immolate themselves, and father of the flame wanted to burn

[edgy nebula]

yeah but this doesnt seem very happy

[muted lantern]

their eyes are closed they just napping

[honest sun]

Was gms half sleep or awake inside the cocoon?

[eternal gazelle]

Asleep but still able to affect the world as she got closer to awakening, kinda like lucid dreaming

[frigid belfry]

she was conscious and aware she was asleep, and had the desire to wake up, but she couldnt really do much physically and mentally