sk-lore

[stone stone]

its in the room above the bench, you get there from the bottom connection

[urban hedge]

I don't believe i've been in this area...

wait is it the one above bilewater?

[stone stone]

yes

[urban hedge]

Okay thanks

[dim inlet]

From the discussion as soon as you enter the citadel, and hornets says "In my experience I have seen gods fall", does this canonize Embrace The Void/Flower ending?

I haven't beaten ss yet so im not sure if this gets elaborated on later

[stone stone]

i think so

[dim inlet]

I mean like, it seems like the most logical thing to do.

[urban hedge]

I think its more likely canonizing the dream no more ending

Godhome ending has more of an implication of a tangle with a god while dream no more is pretty explicit

the phrasing is also important "seeing a god fall" doesn't necesarily mean you've defeated it yourself

[dim inlet]

Thats true

I also wonder what happened with the hollow knight.

I think dream no more would be kinda disappointing as canon but objectively better for everyone involved.

[stone stone]

there is an explicit confirmation on which ending is canon later on

[urban hedge]

lol

[dim inlet]

Ay ay ay dont tell me

[urban hedge]

wait guys I thought sealed siblings was canon

[stone stone]

lololol

[dim inlet]

#deadhornet

Silksong is way creepier than Hollow Knight. Half of the areas are just like, unsettling

[urban hedge]

the most unsettling part of silksong is how long it took me to defeat groal

[stone stone]

bro this fight legit drove me crazy loool the runback was just mean

[queen patrol]

it could also just refer to her father up and vanishing

[dim inlet]

Didn't think about it like that, but its true

I believe "fall" more refers to dying, like the radiance, rather than just disappearing

[urban hedge]

maybe the nature of the pale kings fall is less mysterious to her

[rough sandal]

I like to believe that the moss in moss grotto is actually matcha powder and the druid is just brewing some in a big pot

I looked it up and the trees actually do have fruits

They're probably not edible tho

[dim inlet]

Hornet kills pale king confirmed

[rough sandal]

spoiler :(

[dim inlet]

JOKE

[rough sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/bartender-suspicious-town-with-no-name-the-town-with-no-name-give-me-a-drink-bartender-gif-18119126

it better be...

[drowsy mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYcimc1rv1Q

Is this boss why there's only one Bell Beast left?

[storm whale]

Spoiler: ||At the end of the fight, you'll find more cute bell beasts||

[strong ibex]

That would be cool. ||Makes the act of it saving you and showing off its babies hit even harder||

[drowsy mortar]

I know ours had a clutch, but I think this is why he's the only adult left

But also jfc Pharloom's main source of transportation isn't even safe

[storm whale]

Probs. I think she waited for the predator to die before showing off her babies.

And I head cannoned the bell beast's name is Aira/Eyra

[young lintel]

Someone have also discovered another boss

She kinda looks like grand mother silk

https://youtu.be/uXrFiU4SE2I?si=Mfzcu8ulefpHW1pL

[drowsy mortar]

Wait is this how you get Delicate Flower?

[young lintel]

Probably

[drowsy mortar]

What area is this in?

[young lintel]

The area on the left of greymoor I think ?

[drowsy mortar]

Looks like Shellwood

[stone stone]

its in underworks

or at least, thats how you get there

[drowsy mortar]

FLOWER

They don't pick it up in the video but that is a flower

[abstract lynx]

spoiler: ||hornet dies||

[drowsy mortar]

This boss may be a requirement for Act 3 progression then

[chrome glen]

It is

[drowsy mortar]

Oh yeah it 100% is, I can see the void particles

[chrome glen]

I'm also fighting her right now LOL

[drowsy mortar]

So we've located Delicate Flower then, I'm assuming the quest for Silk and Song will give us Abyss access

[chrome glen]

It does but that is not delicate flower

[drowsy mortar]

Then what is the item?

[stone stone]

||its her heart ||

[chrome glen]

Do we think Nyleth is a higher being like Unn?

[stone stone]

it feels like she might be, but she could have just been a ruler in pharloom like the other two

[chrome glen]

Yeah but her journal entry suggest she created the life like Unn in greenpath

[stone stone]

yeah thats why im so unsure, like it seems like she fully created her domain unlike the other two

and it specifies that shes "ancient"

[jolly trout]

she is a part of getting the delicate flower, but not.

and Abyss is one of the first things in act three

[grave iron]

took me 12-14 hours ||to reach Act 2||

yeah that|| less than 30 hour achievement is gonna be really hard now||

[void raven]

Masks seem to be a common thing among all bug kingdoms

[jolly trout]

think itll be easier a second time through

[void raven]

Not much else to say but it’s interesting

[jolly trout]

i wouldnt worry about timed achievements like tha on a first playthrough

[void raven]

I haven’t got to the citadel yet but I’m wondering if the higher society bugs wear masks?

[grave iron]

yeah once you get a hang of the game and its map

[jolly trout]

all bugs do

[void raven]

Some pilgrims don’t have masks right?

[jolly trout]

i thought they did? but ill be honest i wasnt paying that much attention

[whole holly]

i beat sister splinter and found greyroot

Greyroot kinda does look like white lady

[storm whale]

Is there something you should do in Brightvein?

[stone stone]

||theres a mask shard||

[whole hawk]

Absolutely insane end game. It wasn't a Pokemon Gold/Silver moment but damn did it hit me as hard as Castlevania's inverted castle did. Team Cherry staying the GOATs - makes me wonder if this is what Silksoul mode turned into.

[stone stone]

what was silksoul mode again?

also yeah it was sooo good

[storm whale]

||Oh. I thought there was more to it. The Pin sword woman talked about the place||

[whole holly]

What purpose does polyp pouch serve?

[whole hawk]

Silksoul was supposed to be a hard mode after you beat the game but was replaced last minute by Steelsoul.

[stone stone]

||im pretty sure that was it, just another platforming challenge to a mask shard||

[stone stone]

ahh i see, i wonder if thats why we dont see the steel assassins at all?

unless theyre in steel soul mode...

[lament socket]

interesting lore text from ||the surface|| + item that drops after needolin-ing there

[whole hawk]

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

[stone stone]

nice find!

[whole holly]

guys i finished shellwood, am i supposed to go to bellheart next?

[strong ibex]

I'm thinking they're in Steel Soul mode

[stone stone]

i really want to try it out to try find them but im so gonna die immediately

[strong ibex]

Same

[whole hawk]

Jinn was in steelsoul mode and considering the amount of insane secret and interactions this game has, I would not doubt TC doing that.

They showed them off in 2019 for gods sake lol

[strong ibex]

Technically that would mean TC never lied about Sharpe's purpose

[stone stone]

yeah i really doubt they cut them

[lament socket]

they may have decided the game was already hard enough and that permadeath would be more than enough of a good "hard mode"
god knows i'm having one hell of a difficult time even getting to the true ending with the bosses the game's throwing at me
even as someone whose finished the entire hall of gods on Radiant in HK i'm getting my ass whooped

[radiant lance]

||bile water can ahhh||

[strong ibex]

Sadly barnacle turd shell guy is cut it seems from the 2019 trailer

[stone stone]

omg youre right i completely forgot about him

[strong ibex]

Same with how extensive the coral place was

[whole hawk]

We'll have to wait for someone brave enough to 100% steelsoul to see if they show up anywhere

[strong ibex]

I'm tempted to start a second save file for steel soul.

But I'm having way too much fun fighting Karmelita

[whole hawk]

I do not look forward to doing the steelsoul achievements

You die so much faster everywhere

[lament socket]

i dread steel heart with all of my steel heart

[chrome glen]

Imagine steelsoul mode instead of just permadeath sharpe just chased you through every room transition

No

[strong ibex]

I'm hoping in steel soul mode that Sharpe + his companions will harass you during certain sections. You can fight back but they'll only retreat and come back later

[whole hawk]

Well Jinn replaced... who was it again? Jiji, right?

[chrome glen]

I mean in HK we did see the only steel character, Jinn in steelsoul

[whole hawk]

They'd need to replace an NPC that had a mechanic that helped you out if you died

And the first one that comes to mind is I think Styx because they give you those coccoon recovery items that you wont need in steelsoul

[chrome glen]

Sharpe would also probably be at the natural spawn silkeaters

[whole hawk]

Pharloom is so big and TC is so tricksy that anything could happen unless dataminers have confirmed that the steel faction is gone entirely

[chrome glen]

Although they said that Sharpe is going to chase you throughout pharloom and you can just... not go to the end of sinners road?

[lime rain]

Actually, yeah.... Someone could search for them

[strong ibex]

Sharpe about to become the new Nemesis from Resident Evil

[stone stone]

i hope theyre in the game, i was excited to get some jinn lore lol

[strong ibex]

Or for Metroidvania lovers, the SA-X

[high thunder]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021766541274001429/1414255382666412135/image.png?ex=68bee776&is=68bd95f6&hm=ea9c02b0feec96c262c79dbe82c64bc70c7b028e502ec82a4da306233a3ff9e3&||||this thing is king of adaptation fr||

[lime rain]

Uhmm.... Let me guess the language

[high thunder]

russian

[lime rain]

Oh... You didn't let me guess :(

[high thunder]

silk song is peak fr

if u want i can spoiler 1 boss

[lime rain]

I already spoiled myself for everything

At least what is known at this time

[high thunder]

||theres 1 of final bosses can adapt to ur play style||

[lime rain]

That would be hard to code

[strong ibex]

||Lost Lace?||

[high thunder]

yes

[strong ibex]

Figured

[high thunder]

i beat this fucking thing

7 more % to 100%

[whole hawk]

Also was it ever confirned yet how many quests you need to do to trigger act 3?

[manic kestrel]

endgame spoiler
Is || Grand Mother Silk || a || Higher being like Radiance ||?

[storm whale]

Yea

[chilly finch]

jesus what a game...

[strong ibex]

All the village quests and moving the fleas 3 times at the very least

[manic kestrel]

What does act 3 consist off ?

if there are any records

[strong ibex]

Where to start?

[manic kestrel]

is it that big of a part :<

[storm whale]

Yeah. Feels like as huge as act 2 for me

[manic kestrel]

does ||Knight|| appear in it ?

[chilly finch]

eeeh you really gotta see it yourself

[storm whale]

True. I'm in the middle of act 3 and it's so good. I'm tearing up a bit

[strong ibex]

There's a lot of good content

[stone stone]

its def my favourite act

[strong ibex]

Makes me wonder what kind of free DLC updates they'll have planned if they expand the world like Hollow Knight did?

[chilly finch]

real talk, i think maybe more zones? the game right now is really foreign that even after 3 days there still isn't guides

[storm whale]

Act 3 Spoilers. ||It's sad that Hornet doesn't even remember her own mother's face anymore||

[manic kestrel]

so for act 3 i gotta do silk & soul right ?

[strong ibex]

My DLC hopes

||- The Hunter returns with an actual boss fight against him, maybe team up with the Huntress?

• Shade Lord fight, more abyss shenanigans||

[chilly finch]

i want a plushie of smoll hornet

[stone stone]

this would be so cool

[whole hawk]

If Sharpe doesnt show up in steelsoul mode I could see them being tbe first DLC

[strong ibex]

This ^

They're a backer's character too, right?

[stone stone]

oh wow i just went back to wormways in act 3 and ||its super infected with lifeblood||

[chilly finch]

we are definitely getting something talking about the fate of hallownest

[whole hawk]

Team Cherry like to tie up loose ends

at least content gameplay wise

[chilly finch]

thats what happens when you inject magical blue stuff into worms

[strong ibex]

For the most part, remember Dryya? At least we got the Pale Court mod to fight all the Pale King's knights

[chilly finch]

eather way team cherry now's got the money and time to do whatever they want with the game regarding future dlcs

[strong ibex]

Very true

I just want to be able to fight the Hunter properly

[whole hawk]

well I do hope tbey fix the chinese translation first

before anything else really

[chilly finch]

maybe we will because this game is very hunter style compared to hollow knights knight style

[strong ibex]

He said he was moving to a new kingdom I believe

Only a matter of time hopefully

[stone stone]

i guess the theory about it being invasive and parasitic was correct

[strong ibex]

Hell, with how many eyes he has? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a Weaver wearing the skull of a worm like beast covered in foilage

[chilly finch]

its like, "we will heal you and we will be everywhere with your consent or not"

[stone stone]

yeah, and hornet ||compares it to the infection||

[whole holly]

fighting widow is kinda hard and annoying

[queen patrol]

makes sense as to why it's taboo in hallownest, then

[whole holly]

i hate her, lace was easy tho, i hope widow drops silkheart

[chilly finch]

so thats why the walking spores of the infection and lifeblood are alike

i dunno but i think maybe we'll get a dlc or game about the lifeblood and its source

[queen patrol]

ooh, maybe it originated from a similar sort of curse as the radiance's

[stone stone]

yeah maybe we'll see the beast that was in the background of lifeblood core

[chilly finch]

hell yeah, man hollow knight's world has a lot of parasitic gods doesn't it?

[whole holly]

i desperately hope so

[stone stone]

now that you mention it, it really is common haha

[queen patrol]

given its healing properties - maybe lifeblood is the result of an ill-fated attempt by a higher being to heal something

[whole holly]

few that aren't don't gain power (unn, white lady) but others become more powerful though worship and control

[stone stone]

i think it makes sense, bugs deal with a lot of parasites irl

[whole holly]

but it also mirrors religions in real life, religious institutions grow and maintain power by exercising their control over people

[stone stone]

yeah! thats a good observation

[chilly finch]

definitely saw that in the underworks, literally putting bugs that went through hell to clean up wastes and pay 15 dollars for benches

[queen patrol]

would also explain why joni was described as a heretic if lifeblood was known to have come from a higher being back in hallownest. "stop using the blue stuff to cure yourself, we have a perfectly good pair of higher beings in charge right here!"

[strong ibex]

Infectious Hive Mind and Religion. Both methods of controlling. Pretty neat

[whole holly]

Pale King, Radiance, Grandmother Silk have organized religions, Nightmare Troupe is a cult, Unn and White Lady have unorganized religions

but there are aspects of spirituality (lifeblood) and shamanism ( snail shamans)

at least in events of game, because change might occur inevitably

[slow saffron]

how did you get there? even with the double jump it seems impossible

[strong ibex]

The Void is seen as a destructive primordial force, but there are sects of worship by Snail Shamans. Void worship is most likely one of the oldest religions in the world that got stomped out hence the ruined chapels

[stone stone]

there is another vertical movement upgrade you get in the late game

[whole holly]

yeah, i would equate that with animism, or primordial force spirituality

[chilly finch]

its funny that the void isn't good nor bad its just a force that devours it all but you can be saved from it if you were friend of one of the many dead vessels

[strong ibex]

Void also seems to feed off regret. If the other Higher Beings try to enforce their will on others. Void only brings out the darkest thoughts within one's self

So... Depression xD

[chilly finch]

btw we also have to get a game or dlc talking about where the delicate flowers or all the pale stuff comes from

like the root of it, not just the pale kings doing

[whole holly]

it is just a force without player taking control

[slow saffron]

._.

[stone stone]

a game in ze'mer's homeland

[stone stone]

um... sorry if i spoiled you.... 🥹

[whole holly]

i had hoped Everbloom and Delicate Flower were same and would provide insight

[chilly finch]

it all makes me think, what do ya'll prefer? all devouring black goo, orange juice zombie deity or silk stealing woman?

[stone stone]

SAME!

[slow saffron]

nah I don't consider it a spiler if you're acually not lying like most of the community is. If you're telling the truth then I am really happy

[stone stone]

its true!

[stone stone]

ill take the black goo, my homie the knight lives there

[whole holly]

i guess most would choose void but people being desparate for alternatives is why lifeblood takes hold in act 3

[jolly trout]

it almost makes me wonder if lifeblood was something else originally that got corrupted by the radiance. Like Maybe Joni was a higher being of some kind as well

[chilly finch]

im still surprised by the ||knight's|| appearence at the end and also showing that he is the ||shade lord|| canonically

[whole holly]

joni unlikely, but Abyss Creature possibly, also Abyss Creature needs better name

[stone stone]

i think joni was just a random bug, i think the higher being was the beast in the background of lifeblood core

[whole holly]

joni was practitioner of Lifeblood consumption and devotion to it

[strong ibex]

||I'd like to think their true form is the Shade Lord but they only appeared in their familiar shell to Hornet just so she recognises them||

[jolly trout]

entirely possible

[stone stone]

ahh so like a priest type thing

[proud pine]

Oh ok, how does the ||flea caravan traverse Pharloom for gods sake there is not a single path for carts||

[whole holly]

i mean in way yeah, she atleast had lifeblood based charm

[strong ibex]

Flea soup does wonders for the caravan pullers

[jolly trout]

theyre fleas. do you realize how much they can lift and jump?

[whole holly]

DLCs will clear up Delicate Flower, Lifeblood for Sure

[proud pine]

Yeah but they have caravans

[queen patrol]

yep, joni is described as a heretic in her charm's description, implying she disagreed with the pk's faith enough that it was notable

[strong ibex]

Ever wonder if we'll ever fight a Wyrm in a DLC?

[proud pine]

I mean in hk world as I understood being bug is the norm

[stone stone]

i hope they explain seth's "voice" too, unless thats just ||nyleth?||

[proud pine]

So I dont think they are THAT powerful

[whole holly]

likely yeah

[chilly finch]

awwww man i love my dude the knight, tho i really hope team cherry gives us an explanation on what happened to the hollow knight (the knight only became the shade lord in the pantheon 5 so i don't get how he could if he only did the dream no more ending and obeying that "all endings are canon" law)

[stone stone]

i really thought the final boss was gonna be ||a silk wyrm, since they make kingdoms||

[whole holly]

is nyleth a bug?

[chilly finch]

also the hollow knight didn't appear as a shade so it makes me wonder more and more

[gilded beacon]

I just got the first ending and damn, what the hell was that

[whole holly]

||me too but there is still possibility since wyrms can change form||

[stone stone]

|| i have no idea, shes like a flower thing. she reminds me of isma a little||

[strong ibex]

||Some bugs mimic flowers!||

[stone stone]

very true

[whole holly]

can you show photo?

[strong ibex]

Yeah, I do hope he at least shows up somehow, now free from his burden and able to express himself for once

[whole holly]

also what is up with ||Greyroot|| and why is she similar to White Lady

[strong ibex]

Similar species, maybe more invasive?

[stone stone]

||no idea tbh, theyre likely the same species||

[whole holly]

she seems similar to higher being, being heart of shellwood

[stone stone]

yeah we were discussing it before, she reminds me of unn

[chilly finch]

what i like from the true ending is that it comfirms that hornet is the child with three mothers

[drowsy mortar]

So the Mount Fay creature seems to be some kind of "sage" for the Weavers

[whole holly]

why is one higher being and other not then, do we interact with her other than ||polyps|| quest

[drowsy mortar]

It sounds like it offered them some kind of council in the past

[whole holly]

does She canonically have any connection to being Voice or singing?

[strong ibex]

Born by Herrah, raised by the White Lady, taught how to fight by Queen Vespa.

I love that so much

[whole holly]

can you show picture of her?

[stone stone]

yes we do,|| there is another quest and an ending tied to them||

[drowsy mortar]

I will when I get up there, don't have a screenshot on hand

[stone stone]

It really doesnt seem like it, but maybe i missed something

[whole holly]

||you made that connection so i hoped you would know||, it's okay though

[stone stone]

||seth was guarding her, which is why i made the connection, but nothing is explicitly stated||

[whole holly]

oh, okay

[whole holly]

||does she have needolin dialogue?||

[stone stone]

||she might, but its really hard to check||

[craggy plaza]

||so is ss a prequel or sequel?||

im still confused

[blissful harbor]

||it’s the most sequel to ever sequel||

[stone stone]

the game confirms it later on

[craggy plaza]

i haven’t paid enough attention then

still in act 1 lol so ig that’s why

[stone stone]

yeah dw, you'll find out if you keep playing

[frozen hornet]

a bit unfortunate|| that the true final boss is "just another lace",|| but HOLY DAMN THAT ENDING
||THE KNIGHT AND THE SIBLING ARE ALIVE, THEY RECOGNISE US AND HELP US||
||AND THEY MADE THE "RAISED BY THREE QUEENS" IDEA CANON||

[hidden wasp]

Act 3 is so good bro they hid like 90% of the goated bosses here

[chilly finch]

Hell yeah, also it confirms that hornet was going to be one of the pale knights? She has the pale cloak when talking to the white lady

[chilly finch]

My very same reaction, tho i thought that lace fight was really good and maybe we will get another true final boss fight with a dlc, who knows?

[frozen hornet]

the fight was very good, indeed, ||but it kinda lacks the "final boss" feel
I 100% expected to fight a voided Silk||

[strong ibex]

Or the ||Shade Lord. Going from Knight to God between phases||

[frozen hornet]

yeah

[stone stone]

act 3 has the best boss fights fr, they were hard but really fun

[strong ibex]

Tbh I see Lace as a rival from a Character Action game

[chilly finch]

Wait, do we really get rid of the void??? ALL WE DID WAS RESCUE LACE SO WE ARE DEFINITELY GETTING A DLC WHERE YOU TRULLY DEFEAT THE VOID

[frozen hornet]

how many bosses is there in act 3? i got like, 4 maybe

[frozen hornet]

i dont think the void can be defeated tbh

[stone stone]

maybe like... 7? at least

[frozen hornet]

we did get more info about the pale flower tho

[strong ibex]

So her being ||the true final boss isn't a dealbreaker for me. It's like Vergil from Devil May Cry||

[chilly finch]

Delicate flower?

[stone stone]

though i might be including minibosses idk

[frozen hornet]

yeah, but as we've seen, the void spans all the way from hallownest to pharloom

that's a lot of flowers needed

[queen patrol]

the void feels like a force of nature tbh, defeating it would be like defeating idk. earthquakes

[frozen hornet]

exactly

[chilly finch]

Wait... Red protagonist, half species and fight stylishly while using a wide variety of weapons.
Silksong is devil may cry and hornet is dante

[queen patrol]

it's just a facet of how the hk world functions. at best it can be calmed and/or harnessed

[frozen hornet]

also is there really no equivalent to void dash?

[hidden wasp]

The void could literally just be the centre of the hollow knight planet I guess

[queen patrol]

but it's always going to be present

[strong ibex]

||Karmelita
Crust King
Clover Dancers
Seth
Nyla
Lost Lace||

Uhh... who else am I missing?

[stone stone]

there is a similar silk spell

[chilly finch]

Would be true wbut what i meant was like a way to fight its pressence with the everbloom flower's source because hell nah rescuing lace did not do shit for void pharloom

[hidden wasp]

Since the deeper you go down in both kingdoms you start to see void

[frozen hornet]

it got rid of Silk, so no more voided silk threads

[stone stone]

||lost garmond, green prince, and plasmified zango||

[queen patrol]

maybe the knight will just have a very stern conversation with the pharloom portion of the void and ask it nicely to stop /j

[broken bear]

void is just the stain of regret you leave on the world when you die, ofc void would pool at the bottom of every world over time

[stone stone]

though the last one is pretty easy

[strong ibex]

Ahh! Gotcha

[hidden wasp]

This kinda happens

[frozen hornet]

that's genuinely huge tho
the fact that the void now contains a friendly entity

i assume the knight is just a small part of it, he cant control it, maybe it took a while for him to move from hallownest void to pharloom void

[hidden wasp]

That’s what confuses me in hollow knight isn’t the whole thing that the void is unified under the knight

[stone stone]

oh and also the ||pinstress||

[strong ibex]

||Means the Knight does have some form of emotion. Enough to make a connection with Hornet. Like that it proves making a 100% hollow entity is impossible and a flawed method to contain the Radiance to start.||

[frozen hornet]

not at all, the knight is just some void given form and "will"

[hidden wasp]

Is that not what the void heart was for

[frozen hornet]

there's a npc that says something like "it has a will"

[queen patrol]

||given the void is formed from regrets it's inevitable that it would have emotions. it's literally Made of it||

[strong ibex]

It's so damn good. Don't bottle in your emotions. Mold them into something stronger

[frozen hornet]

also what is ||the third ending?
the one where you defeat silk with the curse?||

[strong ibex]

Hornet ||becomes a tree||

[stone stone]

||im really confused on whats up with the curse and that weird tree npc||

[strong ibex]

It feels like a weird form of blight.

[stone stone]

||like what is the baby we find||

[gilded beacon]

How I get the Diving Bell key?

[hidden wasp]

Looking at pharloom my respect for the pale king has like skyrocketed, he really did create a pretty cool kingdom pharloom kinda sucks ass it’s just a bunch of rich guys and unpaid labour and then like uninhabitable “jungles”

[jolly trout]

act 3

[stone stone]

there is none, the bell is related to a late game quest

[strong ibex]

||Some kind of parasite that grows inside us if we go through with it?||

[queen patrol]

||my interpretation is that pk just made a fatal mistake assuming that just because the void didn't express emotions in the same way as a bug - being so fractured and behaving in a completely alien manner - it didn't have feelings at all.||

[frozen hornet]

sounds somehow worse than main ending

[gilded beacon]

I now that, but how do I progress? I already got one of the endings

[jolly trout]

probably aother weird parasitic entity

[stone stone]

||i think so too, but how is it so powerful to take down a pale being and turn it into a tree||

[jolly trout]

have you found the quest Silk and Soul?

[strong ibex]

If they're a similar species to the White Lady. Maybe it makes sense?

[gilded beacon]

Yes, I got all the souls but I don't know how to get to right side Far Fields

[stone stone]

white lady has to be the most mysterious pale being

i feel like we got no answers to her

[hidden wasp]

It’s pretty weird how every time hornet talks about here lineage in conversation it’s always only about the weavers and not the fact that she’s also part wyrm, like i feel like the wyrm half is pretty important too

[jolly trout]

just head down to deep docks and talk to people there if youre in act 3

[gilded beacon]

Ok, I'll try

Thanks

[frozen hornet]

yes, i think the "pale king" hasnt been mentionned once
"wyrm" was mentionned only twice

[strong ibex]

She definitely has more spider in her than wyrm. Probably the culture she resonates with the most. Preferring to hunt and fight than be diplomatic

[frozen hornet]

she also was raised by the weavers, i dont think the PK had much in her upbringing

[chilly finch]

In a way i think she just doesn't like that wyrm part of her that links her to a guy that discarded children and hid in a dream castle when his kingdom was in a demise

[hidden wasp]

Yeah, it was like widow and the mask maker that talked about it

[jolly trout]

i feel like the wyrms were maybe less imporant in pharloom

they were there, but ot seems like the weavers were the dominant group

[hidden wasp]

The mask maker was crazy when I found him

[stone stone]

do we know how pharloom formed?

it wasnt a wyrm right?

[frozen hornet]

yeah but PK was a higher being the level of Silk, kinda important

[strong ibex]

Pretty sure the Weavers were responsible.

[hidden wasp]

Are there any alive weavers in the game?

[frozen hornet]

we know the kingdom existed before Silk arrived

[stone stone]

i thought they usurped the kingdom

[frozen hornet]

Eva?

what is she btw

[strong ibex]

Technically yes

[stone stone]

or was it the other way around

[queen patrol]

widow, technically

[strong ibex]

Multiple actually

[hidden wasp]

Ig but I was talking about like a physical one

Like the hallownest weaver

[jolly trout]

First sinner too

[hidden wasp]

Ig widow counts

[frozen hornet]

not the best place for that bud, you're gonna get yourself spoiled

[hidden wasp]

Bro it’s 20 bucks work one shift gang

[jolly trout]

isnt that tje same person who got banned for begging for it the other day?

[frozen hornet]

also can we talk about|| Smolnet?||

[stone stone]

sooo cute

[jolly trout]

i would if id gotten to smolnet yet

[frozen hornet]

i am concerned about this tho
||is she really starting to forget Herra's face?||

[peak harbor]

that does make me wonder how many years since the ending of hk does ss take place

months? years? centuries?

[stone stone]

||idk how, surely she could see her mask around in hallownest||

[frozen hornet]

no clue, we dont even know what hornet was doing before being captured

[hidden wasp]

Has she talked at all about hallownests state

[frozen hornet]

||yeah but what if it's been so long she's forgetting her mum ;^;||

[peak harbor]

she’s spoken of hallownest, but not so much its current condition. though she did here and there mention the infection somewhat

[stone stone]

||but why does she remember vespa but not her mum? maybe shes suppressing it?||

[frozen hornet]

the only mention of hallownest is when she called herself "the daughter of hallownest" and claimed she didnt fear the void

[hidden wasp]

Yeah I really wonder what hallownests like now being uninfected and all

[peak harbor]

i wonder how long hornet was bound by whatever subdued her on the trip to pharloom, since it was enough to completely sap her strength

[frozen hornet]

praying for a hallownest dlc where we go there
after all silksong was supposed to take place in hallownest

[fallen lily]

how did hornet escape in the sealed siblings ending? since all endings are canon in hk

[frozen hornet]

i never undestood that "all endings are canon" thing

[hidden wasp]

You recon they’re gonna do steel characters dlc since for some reason they were cut or are we past that point by now

[frozen hornet]

like, not all endings can lead to silksong

[fallen lily]

i mean only the sealed siblings

[frozen hornet]

oh yeah i remember there were steel enemies in the trailer

[hidden wasp]

Ig silk songs ending|| could be dream no more or embrace the void||

[frozen hornet]

and the neutral ending too, where the knight replaces HK
he cant be in the void if it's that ending

[ebon owl]

Hey, I just beat bell beast, and am unable to climb few rocks, do I need double jump and even I got a pin like weapon, where u use up arrow and f to throw it, how much of use it will be in weapon

[peak harbor]

still a bit iffy on that, since || some of the silksong endings heavily imply that the canon prerequisite for silksong is the embrace the void / dream no more endings || spoilers for ss’ endings

[frozen hornet]

#sk-help
run, it's full of spoilers here

[ebon owl]

No man, I am not understanding even a bit, so I don't know much, and I don't understand the names, what they are typing

[stone stone]

you are really early game, try to find a map and explore around. the pin thing is a tool, you can use it in combat as like a range weapon

[ebon owl]

K thanks, and I already found map I think, the graphics of game and fighting is really great,

[sleek barn]

any tips on widow? nobody in #sk-help is answering

[stone stone]

it is! i hope you have fun!!

[limpid summit]

go to ss-help I got you

[sleek barn]

alr thanks

[ebon owl]

Sure, am I in act 1 still?

[peak harbor]

yepp

[junior kernel]

im still on act 1 how fucking big is this game

[peak harbor]

immense

[stone stone]

yes

[peak harbor]

they weren’t lying when they said silksong was stuck in development heaven

[stone stone]

fr it just keeps going on

[hidden wasp]

Bruh I just realised to get 100% completion I’ll need to beat the game on steel soul

[paper swallow]

hi

https://streamable.com/e12gp2 extremely common bell bug w 🥹

[hidden wasp]

Steal soul is evil in this game

[paper swallow]

u dont need to do steel soul for 100 completion

[stone stone]

and 100% in steel soul too...

[paper swallow]

100% completion is doing everything u can do in ur save

for the achievement

[frozen hornet]

also this
lots of information here

just how old is hornet

[peak harbor]

well, hallownest has been a dead kingdom for what might be millennia

[stone stone]

shes been around since almost hallownest's inception

[frozen hornet]

hornet having had lovers is huge enough in itself

[hidden wasp]

Older then elder bug that’s for sure

[ebon owl]

K, thanks for info,

[paper swallow]

shouldve been US (yes ME and YOU)

we all bought silksong so we could hear hornet groan right 😂 (safe space)

[hidden wasp]

Bugs live way shorter hornet has probably been alive for like 2 weeks

[peak harbor]

she’s more of a higher being than i first thought, honestly, since she doesn’t need to eat (or eats very rarely) and is ageless essentially

[peak harbor]

LOL

elderbug is two days old

[ebon owl]

Ohh, I don't know how mkiceandfire finished it in just 2 hours

[hidden wasp]

Wait were the vessel or hornet made first

[peak harbor]

actually good question… timeline is a bit muddy on that

[frozen hornet]

vessels first, hornet was part of the deal to seal the HK

[hidden wasp]

Cause ig they probably found the hollow knight before creating the dreamers

[frozen hornet]

so the HK was ready before hornet was born

[paper swallow]

NOOO BONE BOTTOM 😢 I HOPE THE BUILDER BUG IS SAFE I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

[peak harbor]

i was wondering why the bonebottom npcs seemed weirdly generic and then i went back later on nd saw this 😭

[paper swallow]

the builder npc is so tuff bro i love him so much

[peak harbor]

idk where he went i hope he’s okay

[paper swallow]

i still have the item he gives u after u do the donation quests

[peak harbor]

it’s so peak i don’t have the heart to break it

[balmy girder]

people who destroy it are menaces ngl

[brisk plaza]

im so slow that by mates i thought she was like. using the british definition for it. aka none of her friends/comrades lived long enough for her to want to seek out that sort of companionship in the first place

[frozen hornet]

oi maets

[brisk plaza]

also dragging this down, i think after 7yrs it might be mildly safe to say that some things got retconned

[paper swallow]

holy shit theyre back but not infected thist ime

[granite crescent]

yall think this a sequel or prequel rn

[stone stone]

seeing them again was such a good moment

[granite crescent]

id assume prequel right?

[brisk plaza]

?
what happened

[frozen hornet]

it's a sequel

[spark pine]

Sequel for sure

[sage creek]

i just got this quest, and it might become more apparent later, but is the ||pale oil|| derived from ||pale ore||?

[stone stone]

its likely!

i mean their names are so similar

[pearl stag]

wus dis?

[spark pine]

Team cherry has called it a sequel, and while that could he referring to a second game, it seems unlikely. They also said they tried to make all hk endings canon, which would not be necessary if it was a prequel

[brisk plaza]

relic that needs to go to an npc in bellhart i think

[stone stone]

go back to the house at craw lake

[spark pine]

no they suck it out of the pale king

[frozen hornet]

everytime we see the word "pale" it's like a dogwhistle XD

[stone stone]

in greymoor

[pearl stag]

hornet mentions stuff about hallownest

[sage creek]

ohhhh of course

[brisk plaza]

yeah guys they milk him like a snake for the oil

[frozen hornet]

well that went south...

[balmy girder]

anyone with all maps have an idea what map I could be missing for all 28?

[brisk plaza]

MILKING SNAKES IS AN ACTUAL THING 💔

[spark pine]

I haven’t seen every line of dialogue but there’s no dialogue I’ve seen yet that specifically indicates where in the timeline skong is

[stone stone]

have you been to ||verdania||

[brisk plaza]

only mention of hallownest directly that ive seen in the game so far was from a relic. still in act one but i digress.

[pearl stag]

she mentions how she witnessed the events of ||act 3 when talking to the shamans|| in a kingdom before

[chilly finch]

You will never believe who appears at the true ending to confirm if its a sequel or prequel

[balmy girder]

doesn't ring a bell. I've just gotten the ||everbloom|| and need to go back to ||the abyss||

[granite crescent]

i think i can guess

[chilly finch]

Good now just continue and good luck

[stone stone]

||okay go to the very east of greymoor, a new section has opened up||

[spark pine]

Zote

[analog fractal]

the goat appears

[granite crescent]

ty

[stone stone]

you also have to free green prince

[spark pine]

Does the existence of shell wood imply that zote has been to pharloom

[paper swallow]

yooo

[balmy girder]

i have freed him but only met him once somewhere in the citadel i think

[brisk plaza]

I THOUGJT I DID ALL OF GREYMOOR GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

[stone stone]

the game never ends bro

[frozen hornet]

indeed, i just discovered there's new quests with act 3

[stone stone]

||yeah you can just go there and you will see him||

[brisk plaza]

do you know why people keep saying not to free him btw. all i heard is that he "did smth bad". busted his ass out the moment i got a key anyways HELP

[spark pine]

Can’t wait for the dlc that doubles the content and adds pantheons

[frozen hornet]

||bro i cried at the end of green prince's story ToT||

[stone stone]

legit no idea he did nothing wrong

[stone stone]

SAME

[brisk plaza]

so they want him dead, got it

[balmy girder]

alright, thank you

[stone stone]

its a really pretty area, i hope you enjoy!

[brisk plaza]

i saw someone ask if there was endgame/content like godhome and i literally made the ishowspeed face bc godhome grim troupe etc. was a whole DLC wasnt it?

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[frozen hornet]

a bit funny that now pharloom is premanently in absolute chaos with an ungodly scream echoing every now and then XD

[frozen hornet]

it was indeed
pretty sure path of pain was dlc too

and we already know TC has plans for more content
we'll be eating skong for a good while

and r/silksong's insanity will never rest

[brisk plaza]

im doing whatever siso version of PoP that comes out with wanderer, you'd have to hold a gun to my head to switch crests atp

[stone stone]

im really curious to see what tc come out with next

[chilly finch]

I think pharloom has it worse than hallownest, literally being the target of the void and before that it was literally filled with a religion tyrant

[frozen hornet]

imagine not having mastered the 45 degrees
smh XD

[frozen hornet]

what exactly was Silk's plan actually?

what did she want?

[stone stone]

i think she just wanted to possess everyone

she was hunting weavers too

[brisk plaza]

the moment i got wanderers i stuck w it, i have too much muscle memory. thats the main thing i hate about getting new crests— im at the 45⁰ again and getting back out of whatever area is so fucking irritating since you automatically switch when you get a new crest

its the only thing thats fucking buns about this game to me, especially since all my tools and shit go poof as well

[frozen hornet]

i'm a bit annoyed it takes so long to get a nail range upgrade

in hk we get the mark of pride quite early, which helps a lot

[stone stone]

ikr, i feel like huntress should have shown up in an earlier area

[frozen hornet]

but overall, once you get a good build in silksong, you dont really get much to upgrade it

new tools become clutter

and i have like, 8 of those items to expand crests

[brisk plaza]

me and the fuckass curveclaw against the world

[sand pumice]

YO I THINK I FOUND A SECRET BOSS

[frozen hornet]

because what's the point of upgrading something i'll never use

[stone stone]

wanderer's nail hitbox feels jank without the range upgrade, atleast the upslash does

[frozen hornet]

nono, he found you

[brisk plaza]

im in act one with no double jump and that stupid fucking driznit is so much more irritating than the craw. stupid ass coral

if i had dj wanderer would be heaven but i have to use curveclaw like a LOSER because i cant REACH

[stone stone]

theyre such a nightmare, blasted steps was so annoying to go through at first

[brisk plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-strangle-over-it-im-done-wtf-gif-5733066100478599257

im at final judge and praying i can find a closer bench. i am in hell looking up at heaven

[stone stone]

last judge has the worst runback in the game

[brisk plaza]

YOURE KIDDING. YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING.

[stone stone]

im not im so sorry

[brisk plaza]

THIS IS WORSE THAN HUNTER'S MARCH BENCH NOOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-strangle-over-it-im-done-wtf-gif-5733066100478599257

[stone stone]

you get better at it though

[real crater]

It ain't that bad last judges not that hard

It's just consistency

Practice and u shall overcome

[stone stone]

just dont stand next to them when they die

trust me.

[brisk plaza]

can we rate the crest build before i drag myself back up to them .. /nf

[stone stone]

show us!

[warm gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-i-was-always-there-humpty-dumpty-alexander-puss-gif-27400177

[quaint surge]

is lace related to hornet ? i don't play hollow knight

[warm gyro]

||the snails:||

[whole holly]

last judge, lace and moss mother were easy, however widow.....

[granite crescent]

almost lost the attempt i beat him cause of that

[stone stone]

||literally i felt so betrayed||

[brisk plaza]

i do have sharpened needle btw, my only spells are spear and storm

[stone stone]

i think i had the same build! but i used the spiky balls instead

[frozen hornet]

worst was the frog boss

[sand pumice]

whats the name of this boss? at the enter of wormways, im gonna look for tutorial at yt

[pearl stag]

what does the ||baby|| do

[willow flicker]

it's not a boss, just enemy that doesn't respawn

[brisk plaza]

ive heard i should use a fire charm (?) but i have NO clue where to find that so we abt to brute force it

[sand pumice]

and theres no name of it?

[stone stone]

craggler

[brisk plaza]

that one mole fuck

[naive portal]

someone needs to get all the assets in silksong n make sure we didn't forget smth imo

[stone stone]

theres a charm called magma bell, you get it from forge daughter, but you need a craft metal

it decreases fire damage, im sure its also useful

[outer folio]

Just skip it it's ass

[brisk plaza]

WAIT MAGMA BELL ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING AND DOESNT JUST HELP AGAINST LAVA??? I BOUGJT IT AND NEVER TOUCNED IT HELP MEEEE

[willow flicker]

you take 1 dmg instead of 2

[balmy girder]

you can just wait for its attack to end, jump up and hit once, go back down, repeat that until hes dead

[brisk plaza]

OH nooo im talking abt whatever skill applies the fire dmg thing to hornets needle. thats what i heard at least

[drowsy mortar]

As requested

[tawny sentinel]

Anyone else consider how dystopian it is to have to pay for benches?? and then they go away right away after too

yea honey i finally saved us enough to sit on a bench!

[stone stone]

they make you pay for a confessional too (its useless)

[tawny sentinel]

IKR

[drowsy mortar]

Supposedly it's supposed to offer us guidance

[tawny sentinel]

dont even say anything

[drowsy mortar]

Or is there something else here?

[frozen hornet]

fluffy boi

[clever void]

Any1 met the mask maker yet?

[frozen hornet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[drowsy mortar]

I love the lore reason for Hornet not freezing to death anymore just being a big bird upgrades her to a parka lol

[balmy girder]

yeah but the mask maker didn't want to do anything

[clever void]

||u can hit his mask off|| and he has some new lines

[drowsy mortar]

I got spoiled about this by Steam Achievements and pieced it together after we found Lost Lace

[frozen hornet]

didnt think a mask maker would be useful did you?
His only purpose is confuse theorists XD

[clever void]

Do you guys know how to get ||true ending||? or where to get started?

[balmy girder]

foolish of me to assume I can do something with an npc that makes me climb mount everest to reach it

[olive osprey]

The confessional was amazing totally worth it for my automated response telling me i wasn’t working hard enough

[pearl stag]

how do i get this ||annoying ass baby out of my inventory||

[quartz plinth]

||-Explains nothing from the previous game||
||-Litterally nothing from the previous game is relevant at all||
||-Ending doesn't explain anything at all||

Close enough welcome back Dark souls 2, i love this gamr so much

[frozen hornet]

TC has shown they can be quite a bunch of trolls

[olive osprey]

Starts in songclave you do silk and song quest from the caretaker

[clever void]

no, i dont think ive just been doing all the quests on the board

[frozen hornet]

also yeah can we talk about the fact that the snails created a ||GODDAMN PORTAL TO THE VOID||

[olive osprey]

What do you mean no

[clever void]

Like as in i didn't do it i dont think

[olive osprey]

That is literally where it starts you just gotta get the quest

[covert tusk]

So how do you get this ending cuz I just beat Silk again and I thought you just don’t bind her

[olive osprey]

Be cursed maybe?

[covert tusk]

Doesn’t that give you the one where Hornet and Silk are turned to stone?

[olive osprey]

No clue i healed my curse and idk if you can go back on that

[clever void]

Do you get it when u first talk to him?

[frozen hornet]

whait there's a 4th ending?

where did you see this?

[olive osprey]

No it requires some sort of trigger like doing all the other quests or getting fleas to final destination or something

[clever void]

oh got u

im geting fleas rn

[clever void]

Do u need all off them for final destination?

[olive osprey]

No it’s like 2/3 or something idk exactly

The trigger is still a little confusing to people

[clever void]

Oh alright, thanks u helped alot

[covert tusk]

In an all endings video and it usually plays after the Weaver Queen ending but before the Lost Lace ending

So it’s gotta be before act 3 starts

[valid hedge]

Where do the fleas go after they leave greymoor?

[dire pilot]

How to enter verdania?

[cold axle]

holy shit

[stone stone]

i think its the last judge's arena

[storm whale]

I think the grand gates after blasted steps

[cold axle]

this was such a cool section

i cannot wait to plug this in and see what the fuck i just got

this shit is fascinating

[stone stone]

where's the surface?

[storm whale]

Where did you get that?

[vital fog]

wdym

[cold axle]

(i also really hope i wasn't missing a movement tool that makes this platforming section chump change)

(because i locked the fuck in here and i feel super proud of myself)

[cold axle]

||act 3. return to Silk's arena||

[stone stone]

||omg i went there and i only got the silk spell, didnt realise there was more!||

thanks!!

[cold axle]

S E E K R I T :)

if you want specific guidance, i'm happy to give it

but otherwise, all i will say is seekrit

[dim grotto]

can we all agree that the ||cogwork dancers|| are gay lovers

[cold axle]

this is explicit and canonical

[frozen hornet]

absolutely

[stone stone]

imma go check it out first, but i appreciate the offer!!

[dim grotto]

well damn i was right

[cold axle]

the ||green prince mentions a male partner that crafted the dancers||

||in the prince's ( or possibly the prince and his partner's) image||

[frozen hornet]

||i dont think he crafted the dancers, more like we was crafted into the dancers||

[cold axle]

nah, it's ||the prince's line. "my partner's last free act."||

||hornet asks if he made them since they look like him, and he says his partner made em||

i can't pull the lines up anymore, since i've long since progged that quest (although i haven't seen the buddy since ||act 3||), but if someone else has em on hand imo it's pretty clear

[vital fog]

they meant dancing partner no?

[cold axle]

no, it's pretty clear that they fuckin

[frozen hornet]

||but they are said to contain his soul tho, did he put his own soul into them? how and why?||

[cold axle]

HK likes using that kind of pseudoambiguous language. indirect but clear as a kind of narrative elegance

[vital fog]

i didnt get that sense but maybe i missed something

[cold axle]

||he might've also been used to fuel them, but he definitely made them himself||

[errant sandal]

is the huntress quest necessary to ||unlock that one last quest||

[cold axle]

no

well, depending on whatever the fuck you mean by "one last quest"

[quaint onyx]

The game is just not the same without Zot

[errant sandal]

the one that leads on to unlock ||act 3||

[cold axle]

in that case nah (image spoilery but related proof)

[errant sandal]

also the silver bell quest i have gone through bellhart and i didnt see a single one where are they

[whole holly]

i finally defeated weaver, but i didn't revieve silk heart, instead silk spell needolin ,

[slow forum]

[whole holly]

but i entered dream realm for while it seems

[slate goblet]

Hornet canonically gets bitches. To the surprise of no one

[whole holly]

so how do i get pale oil?

[ivory canyon]

(ACT 3)
OH MY FUCKING GOD NO WAY

IS THAT THE SAME ONE

[rough sandal]

Does the game have multiple endings?

wowie

Number?

[ivory canyon]

at least 4

[whole holly]

once my macbook cools down i will play again

[rough sandal]

That's quite poggers

[quaint onyx]

[dense sigil]

Off-Topic, anyone else dreading Pantheon of Pharloom?

[pure geode]

hey, sorry, but noone is willing to answer me in help. Do deliveries get destroyed when taking an elevator

[brisk plaza]

just met loam. incredibly sad, is there any way to come back for him

[stone stone]

damn they were not lying this platforming section got hands

[frozen hornet]

the help channel is really way too flooded to be useful damn
regular elevator no, but the airway transport in citadel yes

[pure geode]

THANK YOU

i did not wanna risk having it destroyed in the citadel

[pearl stag]

is there a score threshold needed to get a prize in ||flea juggle||?

[olive osprey]

gotta be max in all

[fallen lily]

||i just found out u can cheese moorwing with repears crest||

[cold axle]

NO, MY BOY

||is there a way to save this goober in any way in act 3?||

[cold axle]

OH, DID YOU FIND THE SEEKRIT?

[stone stone]

yep! im also trying to lock in and beat it hehe

[exotic trellis]

How to tell you got the standard ending

[sleek lily]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[narrow folio]

has anyone seen this dude yet? I’ve heard literally nobody talk about them lol

[sleek lily]

Wasn't there like an old idea from Team Cherry that Hornet had been raised by 3 tribes?

[formal galleon]

idk if this is important or something but in this room if you use neodolin theres some random dialouge about peace or sum

[granite crescent]

savage beastfly has ravaged me

hardest of all the bosses ive fought so far

[cold axle]

good luck, it was a doozy

[granite crescent]

and im up to the 3 beacons of citadel

[sleek lily]

YOOOOO

wtf is hivesteel lesgooo

[frosty cargo]

can anybody help me

😭 I think I locked myself in an area and no one in the other chats is helping

[formal galleon]

you needa go to #sk-help someone will asnwer you dw

[frosty cargo]

they're not

its filled with people who just downloaded the game

[sleek lily]

which area

is it late or early game

[frosty cargo]

getting help is harder than escaping from north korea

[frosty cargo]

mid game

when you get the harpoon ability

[sleek lily]

okay

i'm way past that

[sleek lily]

There's a nearby elevator

[frosty cargo]

where 😭

that area is locked for me

i can screenshare

[sleek lily]

try this

[frosty cargo]

can I ss

so you see my problem

[sleek lily]

okay

[jolly trout]

So i just did the sprinmaster races.... anyone think we'll see dashmaster at some point?

[cinder storm]

Probably in Steel Soul Mode.

[jolly trout]

maybe in one of the dlcs?

(that was to my own comment not what beast said

[pearl stag]

isnt there supposed to be a silk soul mode?

[pliant ruin]

why does ||bilewater boss idk the name|| have ||vengeful spirit||??

[proud pine]

I just learned how to play the silk song, because ||we do play song using the silk in game||

[gaunt anchor]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE 3RD PALE OIL IS ?

[bitter echo]

How to Bind Eva
||You need all 7 Crests and presumably you need to have spent enough Memory lockets to have gotten all of her prior upgrades, I do not know what the exact requirements of those are but I have spent around 15 of them across a couple Crests.||
Shaman Crest can be found ||by super dashing above the lore tablet in the Chapel near the 3 shaman.||

Not sure if anyone has shared this dialogue here yet, final spoilered picture has the ability you get from this.

[gaunt anchor]

yo was good buddy u still on it bro damn
do u know where the subsequent pale oils are ( other than the one from the food quest and the one in the citidel )

[bitter echo]

Fleatopia

[gaunt anchor]

ight thanks is that the last one

[somber pendant]

How do you spoiler tag images? Want to post something cool I found but is definitely a spoiler

[bitter echo]

If you're on mobile idk

[bitter echo]

Yes unless I am completely forgetting something

[gaunt anchor]

also one last question what does this door all the way in farfields even do

[somber pendant]

Lace Lore Spoilers

||Found this little mirror that seems show Lace and the Pale King. I didn't get it in this screen, but it also has Lace says refer to a sister. Presumably this means that Lace is your sister! :o||

[carmine patio]

think my friend saw him last night

[gaunt anchor]

i lied where is the last spell too @bitter echo

[viscid ridge]

Can anyone help me find the map for the vault? I genuinely can't find it please

[peak harbor]

|| not pk, i believe that’s eva or something of the sort? ||

[bitter echo]

The weavenest? It just has a yellow charm in it I think

[chilly finch]

Thats not the pale king, its the vboss you fight on that zone

[gaunt anchor]

oh

[bitter echo]

How to get final spell ||Climb back to where you fought Mother Silk||

[gaunt anchor]

i saw that u can drop down in it but idk how

[narrow folio]

i think that is ||phantom||

[stray scaffold]

||I saw that too, but I'm not convinced that shape in the background is PK. I think the 'crown' is just parts of the background overlapping||

[somber pendant]

o I haven't got there yet lol

[gaunt anchor]

who is that again i still havent fought the 3 guys in act 3

[bitter echo]

||Final boss of Act II||

[stray scaffold]

Oh actually it being ||phantom|| does make more sense

[olive osprey]

hmm i wonder what counts as completion %

[gaunt anchor]

lol shaman is just ranged 😭

[olive osprey]

im at 97% missing 1 crest and 1 silk spell

[gaunt anchor]

surely this is crazy right u get 3 spells and ranged m1s like what

[bitter echo]

You're missing at least one quest as well based on not having all the spells, and a memento, I wonder if those count at all

[stark sparrow]

you need the combined speed from the tool you get from the area ||silkspeed anklets|| and the ||flea brew that you get from the fleas for doing their quest and talking to one of em near the brew||

Nothing special there down there however

[olive osprey]

its poossible crests/spells are 2% though

im still missing mushroom quest

[pseudo escarp]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXxHFrpoVJU So disappointing this area is reduced to an arena||

[bitter echo]

Do you want to know the locations or nah

[olive osprey]

eh ill try searching for a little bit

[jovial geyser]

what does the gm silk binding scene even mean?

[gaunt anchor]

have u done the ||el ruffio 2nd fight ||

[bitter echo]

Yes

[stone stone]

has anyone found all the mementos? i only have 4, i assume hunters mark is also one...

[gaunt anchor]

where is he is he option or a main boss

[olive osprey]

:)

[bitter echo]

||I think I just got a quest from Songclave for him?||

[gaunt anchor]

new game +

[gaunt anchor]

oh damn

[bitter echo]

No mr mushroom needed?

[olive osprey]

not needed

[chilly finch]

Is there a new game +?

[bitter echo]

So at the very least, not all quests count

[pure geode]

huh

[bitter echo]

And that also means mementos don't count

[pure geode]

so does every kingdom have a mask maker?

[olive osprey]

crests 6
abilities 6
silk skills 6
needle 4
masks 5
spools 8
charms 57
that alone gets you really close to 100%

thats 92% assuming everything is 1%

[bitter echo]

Quite possible, it seems like having a mask is a core part of being a civilized bug?

[pure geode]

thats propably the case

sad that we cant do anything with him

[gaunt anchor]

how tf do i ge this flee

[pure geode]

oh

[stark sparrow]

Come in through the top of Greymoor

[bitter echo]

From the Thicket, wooden structure in the middle of it

[pure geode]

you need to beat an encounter

(thats extremly annoying)

[gaunt anchor]

alr thanks

[pure geode]

wait i mistook the

flea

[cosmic geyser]

Out of curiosity chat: ||how does act 3 compare in size to acts 1-2||

Curious how it plays into the idea of a stage play.

[gaunt anchor]

close to act 1

[cosmic geyser]

Wow fr? That’s massive

[gaunt anchor]

its weird instead of like new areas its like hidden areas

along with the entire world being changed

[cosmic geyser]

Oooooh my goodness

Like the inverted castle from Symphony of the night

That’s brilliant

[chilly finch]

Hey so how many pale oils are there?

[gaunt anchor]

i think 3

[chilly finch]

I only found the one in the citadel and the other from the butler bug

[gaunt anchor]

apparently the llast u gotta get all flees which im doing rn

[chilly finch]

Damn

Well i hope theres a new game plus in the future

[cosmic geyser]

So the nail only goes to level 4?

[stark sparrow]

You get a third one after ||collecting all of the fleas and going to fleatopia to complete some minigames|| at least that was what I was told

[cosmic geyser]

Or does each additional nail upgrade only cost 1

[gaunt anchor]

i just want godhome 2.0 but god knows when they are gonna add that is

[cosmic geyser]

Probably gonna get a QoL update first

[balmy girder]

you have the base nail, then you get the first upgrade for free, and then there's 3 more upgrades, for each pale oil

[chilly finch]

Yeah they are definitely doing something about the complaints

[frigid stone]

which panel is completion % on and when does it show up? I got the first ending.

[olive osprey]

you gotta get the "farsight" i think its in abyss somewhere

[frigid stone]

the abyss
Haven't found that place yet. I will eventually I guess. ty!

@olive osprey out of curiosity what's your playtime?

[gaunt anchor]

anyone know how to get this flee?

[olive osprey]

just under 40h

[stark sparrow]

Anyways one last question before I go

Any idea where these items are? Saw them in a random showcase video||I presume they're act 3 exclusives there's very sparse information on it.|| I really don't know though

[frigid stone]

dang you were zooming. I'm around 40 hours and I'm pretty sure I'm nowhere near 100%. I'm probably around 50-60

[olive osprey]

well tbf i did all bosses radiant in hk so im experienced at the combat

[frigid stone]

I haven't played HK in over a year :/

actually it's prob been a few

nice job!

[gaunt anchor]

it took me about 40 hours to reach act 3

[frigid stone]

35 but I spent like 5 hours in the ice mountain trying to do the jump puzzle

figured I probably need double jump and would come back later :/

[gaunt anchor]

anyone know how to get this flea tho

[merry scarab]

(act 3) How do i complete this quest? 2nd image shows this icon that showed up but i couldnt interact or needolin or anything. does anyone know?

[merry scarab]

u need to go far upright in whispering vaults

[olive osprey]

call out to bell beat then enter the tunnel

[balmy girder]

i am missing a single mask shard and i have no clue where to look lol

[merry scarab]

on which bell beast? i swore i did that like 5x and no tunnel appeared

[olive osprey]

i did it in grand bellway idk

[hoary echo]

Just beat ||Widow||. I've a question, is ||she a Weaver? Or atleast a Half-Weaver like Hornet and Eva, sort of?||

[merry scarab]

it was just a light ray upwards -- do you get to ||use the bellways|| after this?

[merry scarab]

was it your first bellway you went into?

[olive osprey]

yes

[whole holly]

||i just met Eva, i though she was Construct like Lace, what kind of weaver is she?||

[thorny ginkgo]

So am i supposed to pretend herrah has any resemblance to a spider whatsoever

[merry scarab]

are we serious fuck this game man sometimes it has horrible design choices idk did i just get bugged

wasn't in the bilewater one so idk what to do

[olive osprey]

for me when i tried to take the stag it gave a cutscene

well not cutscene but like

[whole holly]

just beat ||widow||, i don't know how to progress

[whole holly]

i could only discover ||weavernest|| and talk to ||eva||

[merry scarab]

yeah it like popped up as a red bug guy and then went down and there was a beam of light

but after that i didn't see anything and was no entrance or hidden path interactable with

[olive osprey]

and you cant enter the beam ah

[willow epoch]

HELLO? HORNET WHAT DO YOU MEEEEEAN?

[merry scarab]

i mean i can go back and see if i did somehow miss it but im sure i checked

only all the way across the map though since i assumed it was in bellhome

[chilly scroll]

how do i access the rest of the slab? i'm coming in from the citadel and i see no other way to get through

[merry scarab]

and it doesnt move to your next bellway so its not here 😭

[quaint surge]

is lace related to hornet ? i dont play hk

[willow epoch]

no

[whole holly]

what kind of weaver is ||eva||?

is eva half weaver half ant? like i am getting no answers

[merry scarab]

huh -- might have to try going to grand bellway

[cosmic geyser]

Check her hunters journal entry

[willow epoch]

theres not much about eva out yet, so for now we only know shes a mixed weaver

[olive osprey]

who is that referring to

or is that a broad statement

[balmy girder]

@olive osprey could you please help me figure out what my last mask shard is to have all 20?

[bitter echo]

It's not a broad statement

[simple path]

So I have to ask, Lace is a child right?

[whole holly]

Thanks

[bitter echo]

Yes but no

[olive osprey]

i can try but like

[whole holly]

Should I also open weaver door by needolin in far fields

[bitter echo]

Physically she's very very old, but she has been described in game as someone with a child's mind

[olive osprey]

the interactive map only shows 17 right now

[simple path]

I was asking cause it would make the Hornet X Lace ship strange to me

[gaunt anchor]

how do i get to the flea bruh the door on the left is locked what do i do

[simple path]

And it still is a lil bit

[balmy girder]

i'm certain that I have those 17 already and I'm missing one of the ones that are not on there yet

[cosmic geyser]

Hey chat, haven’t had the chance to use it in combat yet.

Does multibender let you stop at 3 if you don’t have the time to heal for 5?

[gaunt anchor]

@bitter echo

[olive osprey]

you checked late quests in belhart and stuff

[verbal rune]

was the mist real or was it all a schitzophrenic delusion

[gaunt anchor]

it lets u fight a cool boss which gives u the parry spell

[olive osprey]

theres a few act 3 quests for it

[verbal rune]

ik but the mist stops existing when you complete it

so was it even real in the first place

[cosmic geyser]

I don’t know

[cosmic geyser]

Considering the wraiths and butterflies present

I think it was something the haunting was using to try and stop you

And the butterflies guide your destiny out of it

[frozen hornet]

do we know what exactly freed us at the start of the game?
there was that dragonfly-thing that touched the cage, but i dont think we learn anything about that?

[cosmic geyser]

Not exactly, but you do see more through the game

[balmy girder]

yeah i don't have any quests in songclave or bellhart left

[cosmic geyser]

They seem to be allies to us.

They ||are the guide when traveling through the mist||

[verbal rune]

the butterflys are homies

[olive osprey]

can you tell me what mushroom location 5 is "cage of one who raged against the silken lie"

[frozen hornet]

yeah, that's another thing that makes them peculiar, like, what's special about them

[olive osprey]

i dont really remember any of the other ones

[alpine magnet]

missing 4 tools

currently at 95% completion

getting there ,,,

[wraith belfry]

Finally

[balmy girder]

guess im cooked

[cosmic geyser]

Act 2 finale spoiler question:

||the queen silk: is it biologically a weaver? Or a being that took advantage of their physiology||

[bitter echo]

||First Sinner||

[olive osprey]

oh duh

i checked sinners road

[willow epoch]

second beastfly boss is actual psychological warfare

[pearl stag]

what does the ||conjoined heart|| do?

[willow epoch]

so hornet has been in pharloom as a child?

[gaunt anchor]

@bitter echo how do i get the pale ore from them ??? i got all the fleas but he gave me something the egg of flealia

[bitter echo]

Huh, I went there for the first time in Act III and he was ready for me, can't say what the issue

[gaunt anchor]

i just now got all fleas so maybe that6 did u go to them after beating all 3 of the bosses or no

[bitter echo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bitter echo]

No

The dream sequence showed her as a child with the weavers that lived in Hallownest

[brave hound]

Seems you can get to far fields without killing lace. That's cool

[gaunt anchor]

i just went somewhere else and came back

[tidal trellis]

Good Citadel lore from Sherma ||when he realized the horrors of the Citadel in the whiteward and playing the needolin||

||Am I not holy enough? How did it escape the Citadels sight? This place... hidden from holy light... am I not holy enough? This place... hidden from holy light... All this suffering... how did it escape the Citadel's sight? All this suffering... fading... forgetting... am I not holy enough? This place hidden from holy light... how old?... how long? How did it escape the Citadel's sight? All this suffering... this place hidden from holy light... am I not holy enough? How did it escape the Citadel's sight? Pins... pain... all this suffering... am I not holy enough? The Silk!... All for the Silk! This place hidden from holy light... How did it escape the Citadels sight? All those suffering.. citadels sight... all this suffering...||

[wraith belfry]

Is this place relevant?

[gaunt anchor]

aura they better have a good ending comapred to the grubs

[brave hound]

I'm impressed you guys have managed to get so far alr and figure out so much of the lore

[fiery fulcrum]

Does ||Beretta|| make an appearance in silksong?

[cosmic geyser]

||No one from Hallownest lives in the kingdom of Pharloom||

Hopefully this answers your question

[gaunt anchor]

do i need to get the highest score to finish it or something ? i just want the pale @bitter echo

[fiery fulcrum]

Yea but she left hollownest

[bitter echo]

yes

[gaunt anchor]

bro are we fr

[whole holly]

I am stuck in game and don’t know how to continue

[drowsy mortar]

She is a bound Weaver

[flat sparrow]

What really happens in the ending cutscene ? Like is it some space odyssey type shi

[drowsy mortar]

Which ending

[flat sparrow]

after grand mother silk, is it hornet reborning or something

[drowsy mortar]

Hornet absorbed a HB within her skell like the Knight and evolves

[flat sparrow]

hb ?

[drowsy mortar]

Higher Being

[flat sparrow]

is mother silk related to white lady ?

[drowsy mortar]

No

Mother Silk is the HB to the Weavers, WL is the Higher Being of root based creatures

She is related in the sense they are both Pale beings but that moreso just implies a high soul concentration

[verbal rune]

because ss help isnt realy helping do yall know how to get to act 3?

[flat sparrow]

Is hornets mother, deepnest queen related to mother silk somehow ? Why hornet keeps talking about feeling attached to mother silk or something

[jolly trout]

So i just found my way in to wisp thicket... does anyone else get Grimm Troupe vibes from this?

[drowsy mortar]

Hornet's Mother is a Weaver and was granted her powers by the Silk Mother

[gaunt anchor]

i found lost garmond

[flat sparrow]

All weavers were like this ?

[olive osprey]

including mr mushroom

[olive owl]

okay, means I am definetly stupid, lol

[hollow pumice]

In awe of this man who predicted the endings (checked the way back machine it wasn't edited)
||https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1izshct/explanation_of_hollow_knight_silksong/||

[drowsy mortar]

Yes

[olive osprey]

this is going to be one of the hardest achievements ive ever done for sure

thats gotta be harder than radhog

[calm sundial]

why does hornet come back after death?

[tender island]

Good luck "not dying" in this game.

[olive osprey]

theres autosaves on your profiel??

[olive osprey]

i died SO MANY TIMES doing 100%

[pseudo escarp]

#JusticeForCoralGorge

[balmy girder]

yeah im glad they did that. Otherwise I would have needed a whole different save file just for the cursed ending

[olive osprey]

oh shit forgot about that

[tender island]

Ye, good luck in steel soul, cant die or rip.

[olive osprey]

nah ill do that on my 5h run that way i can keep my full completion profile

[olive osprey]

i did hk steel soul first try but this one is gonna take a minute

[tender island]

never played HK myself, but what I understand this is why harder than HK.

[olive osprey]

it also sucks that there is no where to practice bosses at least yet

i got to use the hall of gods to prepare for steel soul by doing all bosses on ascendant several times

but if you look at this

theres clearly a third slot

[balmy girder]

@olive osprey the last mask shard makes me go insane

[olive osprey]

lmao

[tender island]

Btw some random "lore?" I found, any clue if they mean anything? ...Obey their laws...remember their song...await their return...keep their secret...execute their will...watch their halls...

[olive osprey]

i think its just talking about the weavers as a society and how the enforced it

[tender island]

it happens near the light robot and he starts looking up and spouting this nonsense.

[jolly trout]

yeah i think you're seeing it's... Code if you will

[willow epoch]

does anyone know wtf this thing is caled. hate it deeply