sk-lore

[viscid ridge]

Am i just bad at math?

[steel slate]

Same final boss as the first game

[gilded beacon]

Probably

[steel slate]

Probably timezones

[half pawn]

I think so, cause I'm never wrong

[viscid ridge]

Cause it releases at 7 am in my timezone, and its currently 3 pm, so that leaves 9 + 7 hours, which is 16

[steel slate]

Cuz 25:2 is correct here

[half pawn]

Same here

[viscid ridge]

Google tells me its 16 hours

Does anyone have screenshots of the release times?

[steel slate]

Okay but it’s 25 hours here

[half pawn]

Are you getting silksong sooner!!!??!?

[gilded beacon]

We gotta steal it from him

Keep your windows open at knight

[steel slate]

This game is gonna be so peam

[half pawn]

Where do you live, I gotta take a flight to there

[steel bear]

It’s 25 hours

[gilded beacon]

What's the release time in Europe?

[viscid ridge]

Ignore that, i got my timezones mixed up

Now Silksong is later for me 🥲

[gilded beacon]

Dude just casually traveled back in time

[half pawn]

Stupid.

[gilded beacon]

Woah

[half pawn]

Woah?

[gilded beacon]

Woah!

[half pawn]

Woah'll

[gilded beacon]

Woah'd

[half pawn]

Woah.

[gilded beacon]

Woah-ing

[half pawn]

Woahed

[inner prawn]

Shaw

[half pawn]

Addidas

[gilded beacon]

Edirooo!!

[half pawn]

?tag countdown

[gleaming basin]

Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!

[inner prawn]

GIT GUUUD

[gilded beacon]

Koshe Kalimo...

[sonic dragon]

Why is it 4 pm in Europe

[inner prawn]

timezones

[half pawn]

Cause it's 10 am EDT that is 4 pm in Europe

[inner prawn]

silly sun doesn't hit the whole planet at the same time

[gilded beacon]

Poor planet, always getting ~partially~ beaten up by the sun

[hard siren]

Hornet DIES

[gilded beacon]

Did the Radiance know how the sun looked like or she just became a ball just because?

[gilded beacon]

Hornet found dead in an alleyway

[hard siren]

Hornet shot in the queen's gardens

[gilded beacon]

Those damn mantises, they invade our land, burn our wifes and make out with our crops

Always the immigrants

[viscid ridge]

Yeah so essentially in a half hour, it will be a day till silksong

Heres a website for easy access to see how long till Silksong

Hollow Knight: Silksong Release Countdown https://share.google/WS0w6BtlC9pXfvnBh

[half pawn]

I'm so excited to silk my song!

[gilded beacon]

We should all silk it together

[half pawn]

I'm down

[viscid ridge]

Im gonna silk it so good

[half pawn]

How many times are y'all gonna silk it

[inner prawn]

2

[half pawn]

Me personally, imma silk it till I song

[viscid ridge]

Rookie numbers

[gilded beacon]

39, since 40 is the human silking limit

[hollow rampart]

im holding myself back on playing silksong until i platinum hollow knight

[half pawn]

Silk my song too

[hollow rampart]

itll be hard

[gilded beacon]

Woah-

[half pawn]

Imma silk yours too.

[gilded beacon]

Silkty-nine?

[half pawn]

Silkty-seven

Alr imma go to bed, bye.

[river path]

oh man, I wandered into some discussion and I am so fucking lost (not the above)

is there like a wiki article summarizing past events?

i believe it was related to DLC lore and bosses, and past stuff like what the radiance is

[gilded beacon]

Maybe in Hollow Knight.Wiki?

[neon sparrow]

hello what lore

[tawdry flare]

Silksong? No, explode

[river path]

i was checking rules for if certain things need spoiler tagged

can you point me to the hk lore channel?

[tawdry flare]

#hk-lore

[river path]

thanks, i forgot to click role and i didn't have it

sometimes i wish there was a way to bring back the onboard thing to easily select roles and channels and stuff agian

[real crater]

There is channels and roles on the top

[neon sparrow]

May someone prithee blesseth me with the l're of Hollow Knight: Silksong

[spark rain]

hornet is not actually a hornet 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[stray fog]

Didn't the ancient civilization create arcane eggs? If so, how are the eggs in pharloom?

[sinful nimbus]

They either also inhabited Pharloom or the eggs were brought there by someone else

[real crater]

We really don't know yet my theory is that pharloom is a offshoot of the ancient kingdom

[spark rain]

i assume the former is more likely

pretty rare stuff to just bring to another kingdom and scatter it all over

[spark rain]

What gave you that idea?

[stray fog]

It wouldn't have been rare in the past, so they could have done it

[neon sparrow]

Art the words this sir preaches the truth

[exotic trellis]

Verily

[willow bolt]

If Hornet has a voice to cry suffering, will we have dialogue options? Or actually speak to NPCs? (Hypothetical question of course)

[low oracle]

can we please change the name of these chanels

[exotic trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-man-no-man-no-gif-7347715096894588969

[flat hearth]

23 hours!!!

[thick canyon]

good luck

[icy sinew]

Oh is it Phar like Pheromones?

This whole time I thought it was Far Loom…

[thick canyon]

do you guys think the mossgrotto in the demo is diffirent from the full game?

it seams to much like a demo

[whole holly]

yeah, bugs in moss grotto are different than mosskin too, moss being common naming convention

i just saw The Phantom character in new video, i am excited about lore implications

[plush siren]

yeah most likely

[thick canyon]

same thing with the other area in the demo

[plush siren]

probably the demo is a bunch of moss grotto rooms stitched together and modified a bit

to make it fit the demo format better

[thick canyon]

exacly

[olive stag]

also the lace bossfight in the demo looks modified

[daring beacon]

Yes (non hypothetical answer)

[shrewd hare]

why does this channel exist

ss doesnt even exist as a playable yet

[runic musk]

why not

it existed for 2 weeks now and gonna see a lot of proper use tomorrow

[daring beacon]

Yeah we should pack it up and reopen in 21 hours

[shrewd hare]

yea

the game releases at 7pm for me but i only have 76 on hk

so i have 1 hr tomorrow to get alot of progress

idek whta i need to do to get that 37%

[near wyvern]

idk

[sonic dragon]

Game is releasing in less then 24 hours guys

[near wyvern]

maybe theories for silksong lore

[sonic dragon]

I hope silksong is neither a sequel neither a prequel but a midquel

[woven trellis]

my guess going in is a sequel since i don’t think hornet would’ve realistically left hallownest before the events of HK (although she is captured and being transported at the beginning of this game so this could be irrelevant)

[shrewd hare]

so it happens while hk?

that would be cool eah

going to save the knight as a quest would be awesome

[tawdry flare]

No it would not Please Explode

[sinful nimbus]

Its always going to be a midquel because silksong is- 💥

[woven trellis]

I am curious what Pharloom bugs having intelligence/sapience means for the whole Pale King expanding the minds of bugs. Does Pharloom have a pale being that does that? Or was the Pale King just full of it

[sinful nimbus]

Wyrms expand the minds of bugs who aren't already sapient

[woven trellis]

Ah

[whole holly]

i am curious what does that imply for his kin, specifically hornet? since vessels are hollowed out

[thick canyon]

weaver wyrm

[whole holly]

she is technically spider wyrm

[thick canyon]

im conspiaring about what the ruler of pharloom is

[woven trellis]

Hornet probably already has a higher sapience due to being a child of the pale king since she can sort of tell she’s in a dream when you fight her in godhome

[quartz salmon]

It's a big cuphead boss with a lot strings and whacky music

[whole holly]

aa sorry, but i kinda agree with you

[thick canyon]

THE BIG SPIDER FROM THE OLD HOLLOW KNIGHT TRAILER

[quartz salmon]

I'm really hoping they did something with that

[whole holly]

interesting, that supports my conclusion

[sudden swallow]

Do you think we'll see the Grimm troupe?
Likely not right,bc pharloom doesn't seem like it's falling to bits

[quartz salmon]

Nah

[whole holly]

i hope grimm troupe gets its own game

[celest stump]

I don’t think that’s gonna happen, but one can hope

[whole holly]

okay, it is speculative

[thick canyon]

the grimm rougelite spinoff

[thick canyon]

i had a brain-blast right there

[woven trellis]

Also my favorite thing is Pharloom’s folly because it kinda reminds me of Elegy for Hallownest (the whole mention of beasts and nature)

Perhaps the nature of Pharloom binds lower bugs/beasts to servitude (like we’ve kinda suspected) but suppresses their desires (“They forget your heart, bound in slumber and servitude,”) and a major point of the game will be freeing the bugs of pharloom from this but everyone is gonna go nuts when we do it (“When you wake they shall see your truth, A beast's nature bare to all.”)

[thick canyon]

so the reverse of hollow knight

[daring beacon]

Hornet becomes a revolutionary essentially

[thick canyon]

hornet becoumes the radince? (joke, but your theory is pretty good)

[thick canyon]

prequel believers shaking in there boots right now

[woven trellis]

It also kinda ties into the name of the poem, as a Folly is defined as a lack of good sense or foolishness.

So the author of this poem must believe that the Folly of Pharloom is its attempt to subdue and bind the hearts of beasts in faith and servitude, but it seems to be like the Pale King where attempting to create a lasting civilization just leads to everything getting fucked up

the hearts and minds of beasts cannot be tamed, civilization in this world seems almost doomed to fail

[thick canyon]

when a theory is so good i get scared that i have the big twist spoiled

[woven trellis]

i fucking love poetry

[icy sinew]

Omg there’s a guy named Phantom now?
Soul Masters gonna need a new nickname

[celest stump]

Could “a beasts nature bare to all” be referring to herrah?

[icy sinew]

I am. So excited to come up with new nicknames for bosses

I have a whole list of nicknames so I can refer to them spoiler free

[thick canyon]

beast seams to be a general term, most likely not specific to one person

[celest stump]

Yeah it seems so

[woven trellis]

seems almost derogatory? the beasts of deepnest since hallownest and deepnest didn’t really fw one another

[celest stump]

Plus if it is a sequel it would make no sense to be herrah, I see what I did wrong

[thick canyon]

yeah beast could be a slur in the world of hollow knight

[rough sandal]

I just thought it was talking about Mr. Beast tbh

[celest stump]

Lmfao

[woven trellis]

also the first two lines
(“They see your beauty, so frail and fine,
They see your peace, woven of faith and toil,”)

seem to sort of build towards this? a frail beauty and a peace woven of faith and toil. but what happens when that beauty is broken, the faith is lost and the toil is no longer continued? we know that the bugs of pharloom work fervently to deliver silk to the citadel, and i saw pointed out that when enemies die you can see silk strings coming off them pointing towards the citadel so it does sorta support this theory. Basically yeah hornet may incite a revolution that brings Pharloom crashing down.

[woven trellis]

also this is like the greatest compliment i could ever receive

[trail wasp]

Question: This has probably been debunked, but with all the hints of showmanship and color schemes, would it be possible that Trobbio is or was once a part of the Grimm Troupe?

Look at them just gives me Troupe Master Grimm vibes.

[woven trellis]

Probably not? Idk the Grimm Troupe is pretty heavily associated with dreams and it’s not clear whether or not dreams will make an appearance in Silksong, but also The Grimm Troupe performs their rituals by collecting embers of dead/dying kingdoms, and Pharloom doesn’t seem very dead

[inner prawn]

No information on him to tell. I did find out he's named after Matt Trobbiani, his voice actor and creator of the game Hacknet

[trail wasp]

That's why my thinking of Trobbio was that he's essentially another kind of Nymm situation.

Another bug that might have left the troupe but kept the feel of the show

But yea, its all speculatory

[green dagger]

do the bugs in pharloom drink milk?

[quartz creek]

silksong tomorrow

[thick canyon]

there is a milk like substance in hollow knight

not talking about soul btw

[green dagger]

WHAT IS IT

[thick canyon]

in city of tears some boxes break and theres a small white particle effect thats not soul

its called gruzzermilk by the fandom i heard

[green dagger]

city of tears more like city of milk amirite guys

[inner prawn]

blue milk

[obsidian quail]

any last minute lore predictions?

[gilded beacon]

The PK will appear

[pulsar valve]

lets go silkson

[mighty oyster]

The final boss will be beautiful

[gilded beacon]

The final boss is " The Silksong"

[mighty oyster]

The song of silk

[verbal hill]

fuck is gruzzermilk

why everyone so quiet now

[terse wadi]

Gruzzer milk

[verbal hill]

who is gruzzer and why they milking him

i really hope ss music is good, silksong without good song would be just silk, which is plain and boring

[terse wadi]

It's not an individual, it is many

[terse wadi]

If Lace theme and bone bottom are anything to go ff of, sounds good

[verbal hill]

holy moly they milking THEM

[thick canyon]

if i remember correctly the silksong soundtrack is bigger

[restive snow]

bro trobbio bouta be my FAVORITE character
I love him so much already
my favorite part of silksong is when trobbio trobbio’d all over the place

[thick canyon]

and lances theame is already my fav hollow knight song

[restive snow]

lace u mean?

[real crater]

The score at the beginning of the trailer was really good as well

[thick canyon]

yeah

also bonebottom slaps

[restive snow]

yesssss peak

bro lace being played in the background of the DSN video was so good

[mighty drum]

I've been utterly obsessed with the trailer music since it dropped. And this specific cover lives rent-free in my head

https://youtu.be/i7IfheCsm80?si=HpDVeUDHJBqd6ugy

[restive snow]

it just added so much to araura’s feral screaming LMAOOO

[restive snow]

YES DUDE OMG
im going to download and listen the hell out of the soundtrack holy shit

anyway I must be departing
I’m going to be muting everything on this server after tmrw to avoid spoilers

[thick canyon]

reminds me of farwells motiff from celeste

[restive snow]

im going to go in 100% blind and no one will stop me

good luck tomorrow my silksongers, Godspeed 🫡

[mighty drum]

Have you guys watched the new mossbag video?

Obviously I won't watch his post-launch content before finishing the game because I don't want to spoil myself. But at this point it's just cool speculation so I had fun watching it

[mighty drum]

Damn I never got that far in the Farewell update. Might need to resume it at some point

[verbal hill]

do yall think we'll get more open landscapes instead of the closed ones we saw in hk?

[thick canyon]

trust me its peak

[verbal hill]

will we still be underground or

[mighty drum]

I doubt we'd be underground since exploring Pharloom is about ascending to the peak of the world (or kingdom ig)

But maybe some areas will be underground?

[royal forum]

the lava area

i am so excited for the increase in towns and npcs

the theme has moved on from desolate and i can't wait to see all the new normal bugs

[mighty drum]

And I do hope we get more open areas compared to HK tbh. Most of HK being so claustrophobic/underground fit the atmosphere of Hallownest being the remains of a dying kingdom so well

[runic musk]

I mean

It will be just by the fact Hornet is a lot faster in general

[mighty drum]

Yesss and the new elaborate quest sysrem!

[royal forum]

gotta say i am a bit worried about the traps and machines they mentioned

i hope it isnt a tedious process to use them and craft them

crafting can be hit or miss so badly in ggames, the procurement and saving of resources stresses me in some

[runic musk]

Less worried about cost more worried about their balance.

[mighty drum]

I am so excited for that! It seems she can sprint by holding dash or something? Not to mention all the new abilitids

[royal forum]

the chase boss fights are gonna be awesome tho

not being assigned to one arena, one room. like using the environment to advantage

[mighty drum]

Honestly I'm worried about the sheer choice paralysis I'll get from deciding what to equip and how to change the moveset/attacks x_x

[runic musk]

So basically do what Ori did

[mighty drum]

I enjoyed the chase sequences in the Ori games. Except that one in Will of the Wisps with the fucking ||sandworm||

Excited how the chases will be like in Silksong

Back to lore since that's the channel-with what little we know, do you guys have any speculation on the Pharloom bugs' reason for kidnapping Hornet?

[terse wadi]

Silk

[mighty drum]

Her specific silk as the daughter of a Beast + a Pale Being?🤔

[runic musk]

I was more referring to how ||all 3 major bosses have a chase sequence, with 2 being midfight and one as an opener.||

[sudden swallow]

I wonder who the 3 dreamers of silksong will be

If there is

[terse wadi]

Soul infused silk, probably why the weavers are captured too

[runic musk]

I dont think they'll do a Dreamer equivalent thing again

[mighty drum]

I guess instead of seals it'd be ringing the bells?

[sudden swallow]

Like the white egg head girl is our hornet
The radiance is whoever the leader of the capitol
Our stag is the bellbeast
Dreamers could be the assassin's?

[mighty drum]

It does seem like Pharloom is fanatical af about silk

And in the trailers, footage etc, it seems some enemies have puppet-like silk threads always pointing to the Citadel regardless of location?🤔

[terse wadi]

You see that in the demo too

[mighty drum]

Yeah edited for clarity

[royal forum]

i haven't played ori but i am waiting for it to go on sale

i also think it's so cool about the strands leading to the citadel

SEVERAL FREAK PEOPLE???

[sudden swallow]

I Lowkey want a cameo from some hollow knight Character,like maybe corniefer and his wife have gone on another adventure

Or if it'd a prequel,quirrel

[runic musk]

I strongly recommend trying Ori when you have the time though

[sudden swallow]

Hehehe

[sudden swallow]

I know quirrel doesn't make sense bc of comic but
GIVE MY BOY BACK

[royal forum]

the long transport bug we saw is called the bellbeast?

[sudden swallow]

I think so

[mighty drum]

Agreed. Play Ori and the Blind Forest Definitive Edition first, then Ori and the Will of the Wisps as it is a sequel

They're nowhere near as long or expansive as HK but they're charming games with fun fluid movements (and the second game has customizable combat which was lacking in the first game), awesome graphics and soundtrack, and a neat lil story

[real crater]

Yes

[royal forum]

awesome

[mighty drum]

Same I want to see Corny charting new lands and Iselda protecting him (since her dreamnail dialogue mentions her being a warrior), even if he's not the mapmaker of Silksong

[terse wadi]

Wasn't a fan of Ori's gameplay personally, and I heard that was a workplace harassment scandal at the dev studio a while back so eh

[real crater]

Oris combat didn't feel nice it was pretty bad but the artstyle was cool

[mild birch]

At the very least Mister Mushroom

[mighty drum]

Yeah the first game's combat was bare-bones, but it was more about exploration and movements

I liked the second one's combat though

[mighty drum]

Ooh we'll need something Sporeshroom-adjacent to interact with him

[mighty drum]

Yikes. Didn't know about that

[desert bough]

Chat how do we know Silksong is a sequel?

[mighty drum]

I think they advertized it as sequel, no?

Or am I misremembering

[real crater]

That's the sequel as in second game not a narrative sequel

[mighty drum]

I guess if it's a sequel it could take place after any ending except for Sealed Siblings?

[real crater]

?tag info jokerpsa

[gleaming basin]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ

No ending stops Hornet from being captured, and the ability to break seals with bugs from Pharloom makes Hornet being locked in the Black Egg not an issue. Dreamers also don’t die when sealed, we simply didn’t have the means to remove them without killing them.

[desert bough]

I thought there was debate about that given the weavers or sumn?

[spark valve]

there's no reason to think it's a prequel that's just a random misconception that has never gone away

[mighty drum]

Ohhh interesting

[desert bough]

Actually wait I’m silly. It’s make MORE sense for it to be a sequel wince the weavers left hallownest to Pharloom. The hollow knight fandom says this definitely true and they they help hornet and Pharloom, but the fandom is also silly and stupid and wrong often

[eternal gazelle]

it's all because of that fuckass french translation

[terse wadi]

A mountain of implied eveidence

[tawdry flare]

The French strike again

[spark valve]

hornet gets metroided in silksong, timeline doesn't allow prequel, etc

[tawdry flare]

You know, there’s zero evidence for and against Alternate Timeline Theory

[real crater]

Also the king of all prequel theories sealed siblings the worst of em all

[mild birch]

Uh clearly bc hornet is going to die at the end of silksong

[desert bough]

They- they wouldn’t

[vestal swan]

They would

[mild birch]

👀 sure they wouldn't, and they wouldn't let you get close to a character in HK just to have them die in the boss fight so we have nothing to worry about COUGHclothCOUGH

[eternal gazelle]

there is no plan, we will all perish

[terse wadi]

This is like Anti-vaxxers finding that one phony article on page 56 of google as proof

[vestal swan]

Some of us are going to disappear and play the game some of us are going to stay here and help

You don't need to kill your messages this channel is not going to be strict until after tomorrow

[desert bough]

I heard that Silksong ends with the hollow knight and cloth and the radiant and everyone from Hallownest coming to Pharloom for a big party and they silk and song all over the place

[real crater]

o7s to the ones who are gonna stay doing real work

[sullen heath]

they bring parry system to the ss yea?

like we need to parry some bosses maybe puzzles bla

[mild birch]

I like the part where they songed their silk all over the place and everyone clapped and Bugbama was there too also

[real crater]

Yes hornet will most probably have the parry from hornet 2 fight

[vestal swan]

You deleted that too

[sullen heath]

nice so we got dash skill, and dash on mid air i think we might get tons of puzzles

or path of pain 2...

[real crater]

U mean platforming puzzles or like deltarune puzzles

[spark valve]

and yet misinformation in this community never fucking dies

[sullen heath]

basicly platforming puzzles i guess like maybe they might add grubs or something like that

[real crater]

Tbh I never saw the same people always different ones

[desert bough]

No it’s going to be BAD. Like REALLY BAD. The game in general will probably be harder just cause we have such an expanded skill set

[sullen heath]

or parkours for mask

[spark valve]

tc's stated their intent was not to make the game harder

[mild birch]

Ooh intractable puzzles would be so fun rather than just going to hit lever here to open gate here repeat × 11

[sullen heath]

i would happy if the game is hard

[real crater]

No tc said they will keep the game friendly for casuals and new comers

[sullen heath]

we got tons of skill set and can do anything

[desert bough]

Well of course

[spark valve]

and one of the ways they were doing that specifically was in having its difficulty not be increased

[real crater]

Also by not making hk necessary

[sullen heath]

i heard like first boss of ss will be hollow knight what u guys think?

[spark valve]

that's not true

[mild birch]

Nope

[spark valve]

(and if it was it would suck)

[eternal gazelle]

I heard they did surgery on a grape is this true

[terse wadi]

The first boss of Silksong is dave

[real crater]

They actually did

[spark valve]

dave is a miniboss

[sullen heath]

kay

[real crater]

Sadge he only drops so little

[sullen heath]

bruh..

[spark valve]

shell shard bundle is nice at least

[desert bough]

I highly doubt this, though I am genuinely curious I have NO IDEA what it could be.

[real crater]

Should have given like a tool for later

[spark valve]

we've seen the first boss

[desert bough]

This is true actually btw I was the carriage

[spark valve]

she was in the moss grotto section of the demo

[real crater]

Isn't moss mother skippable

[eternal gazelle]

I'm not even sure Dave is still gonna be in that spot in the full game

isn't it kind of a dogshit arena

[spark valve]

I don't think so but even if she is she's still the first boss

[mild birch]

Gruz mother blue lake skip moment

[real crater]

No she is at least in the demo I just checked

[terse wadi]

Moss Mother is the obvious and boring answer, I like wrong answers only

[sullen heath]

tf are theese... gonna get so many weird items

[real crater]

It's actually hornets sudden heart attack she gets

[spark valve]

in any case unless you are going to argue that hornet is the first hk boss being skippable doesn't matter

[real crater]

I am not arguing about first boss just adding that info

[mild birch]

Silk flowers: Maybe the Grub collectible parallel
Shell Shard: Probably Mask shards
Rosary String: Combat change couldn't tell you much bcni don't pay attention to the loafout stuff
Beast Doors: Stagways? Like Bellbeast I assume

Mossberries I have no clue, maybe thats lifeblood lol

[mighty drum]

Aren't the fleas the grub collectible parallel?

[mild birch]

Once again, I do not pay attention, I just like spreading misinformation

[mighty drum]

Ah. To be fair I might also be wrong in this case so lol

[mild birch]

Im mostly basing that off the number

[feral thistle]

is it here yet

[real crater]

Fleas are the new geubs

[mild birch]

How many frubs were in crossroads? Like 4-5

[spark valve]

moss grotto is more analogous to king's pass than crossroads

[mild birch]

Yes and you can buy it direct from me, at a whopping deal of $90

[eternal gazelle]

I mean it could be both

[feral thistle]

Hi Nintendo didnt know you were here

Right now I'm getting my ass beat by the final boss of Nine Sols

[spark valve]

I mean the part in the demo more specifically

[feral thistle]

Nothing in silksong can faze me now

[eternal gazelle]

yeah that's so

[mild birch]

We'll also be selling a Mario & Cappy skin for Hornet that you can download at 56GB for 6.99/month

[eternal gazelle]

you might be able to win before silksong comes out

you know maybe

[real crater]

Nine sols ain't that long u can definitely beat it before silksong

[spark valve]

whole game eh just that fight totally

[eternal gazelle]

that fight is like a third of the game

[edgy nebula]

i cant wait for it to be revealed that sharpe isnt void

[real crater]

This can refer to 2 fights and both of them are correct

[mild birch]

Gonna see if I can start and finish one piece before silk song drops, might cut it a little close

[spark valve]

which is considerably less than three thirds

[mighty drum]

You've got this!

Getting into a flow and finally defeating that boss after getting your ass kicked is SO SATISFYING. Plus the story is awesome

Especially ||Phase 3|| being so difficult (true ending spoiler)

[mild birch]

Im gonna go pick up McDonald's methinks with my 23k rewards points

And something something silksong related dicussion

[mighty drum]

SILKSONG TOMORROW

[feral thistle]

That was the plan but I might be cooked

[mild birch]

Swear I saw it was going to drop 9am my time but I looked at the times again and now it's 8 so I'm just confused

[feral thistle]

I couldn't get true ending I'll do another playthrough after silksong

And then we will all be spamming ShuanShuansong in the next game showcase

[mighty drum]

Oh that's fine. After you beat the game, it yeets you back right before the point of no return, so you can resume and get the true ending reqs without replaying the whole game (unless you do want ti replay it bwcause it's awesome)

So here's a question. Knowing how badass and no-nonsense Hornet is, how cooked are the bugs (and probably leaders) of Pharloom gonna be

[spark valve]

Assuming you can beat the game probably fairly

[flat hearth]

18 hours...!

[mighty drum]

Bold of you to assume I can beat the first boss

/jk

[feral thistle]

Oh wow thats cool

[feral thistle]

Assuming that the people that beat AnyRad are lore accurate knight, Pharloom is COOKED

Fireb0rn on his way to accidentally speedrun the game

[mighty drum]

I went from struggling a lot with Hornet 1 on my first playthrough to being able to get 100% in Steel Soul and 112% in regular mode so I assume my Silksong progression will also follow a similar pattern of "suck a lot until you get good"

[mighty drum]

BlueSR literally speedran Lace at the demo lol

[spark valve]

I would expect some level of skill transfer

[mighty drum]

Hmm good point. But on the other hand, Hornet plays differently than the Knight so who knows!

Oh I'll have to rebind the controls probablu

[real crater]

Blue did say a lot of hk skill transfers

[mighty drum]

Okay that's good to know actually

[feral thistle]

I think it'll be similar to hollow knight where most of the basegame bosses aren't that bad but then it jumps WAY up in difficulty in the endgame

Imagine a fight where you have to constantly stay in the air using hornets parkour skills while fighting the actual boss

[mighty drum]

Sisters of Battle be like

Floor? What floor? No floor. Only POGO

[real crater]

That was a fun mod

[terse warren]

i mean what if that's not actually all of moss grotto and we onyl saw a small part

[spark valve]

there's a little bit more of moss grotto but not very much

and still the context of convo was about demo section

[terse warren]

tbh i haven't seen demo footage in so long and i kinda don't wanna spoil myself so

[terse warren]

oh mb

[feral thistle]

I've mostly been avoiding the server cause of that lmao

What if fleafather or whatever does a grubfather reference

[rancid river]

What do you mean by that? Like he eats the fleas?

Or he just mentions him

[feral thistle]

Something like that yeah

[thick canyon]

are all the theory crafters dead?

[eternal gazelle]

they're waiting

[thick canyon]

this chat used to be big and round with life... now its so hollow... hollow like a certain knight

[real crater]

The theory crafting got done when this channel was made all theories are made now

[rancid river]

Silksong has been fully solved! No need to play the game /j

[steep walrus]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN SKONG TODAY!!!!

[drifting igloo]

nope, still 17 hours

[eternal gazelle]

that can be today for their timezone

[steep walrus]

basically today as it is less than 24 hours

[opal beacon]

"Mournful creature tasked alone to expel the Citadel's choking refuse. Their talent with a longpin is unmatched." I wonder, what they meant by "expel the Citadel's choking refuse". What's your theories guys?

[steep walrus]

It's sept 4 already here

[steep walrus]

Ig we will fight him/her then will become an ally

[opal beacon]

Its already confirmed that we will fight him

[knotty pine]

amazing dudee

[real crater]

Phantom probably works as a way to differentiate those worthy of making the silk pilgrimage and those that are not worthy and choking the way refused by the citadel

[opal beacon]

Cool theory

[feral thistle]

Say that again

[steep walrus]

oh...but surely an ally ig ... like hornet was to us in the end

[feral thistle]

This channel is actually just waiting for the 10 hour mossbag video

[opal beacon]

But he looks evil, i don't think hi will become an ally

[opal beacon]

I think in this game is Lace

[viscid ridge]

Almost there guys 17 hours left

[steep walrus]

Possible but she tried to kill us twice?

[feral thistle]

Lace seems more like she'll be an opp till the bitter end

[opal beacon]

Maybe Lace trying to stop Citadel's Caste's plans by killing Hornet, and then they're become friends

[steep walrus]

and maybe according to diff endings maybe it will include different allies

[feral thistle]

Which would be a catastrophe for Hornet/Lace shippers

[opal beacon]

Actually TC called Lace a "maniac"

[steep walrus]

Possible... maybe lead to some kind of a good ending ?

[real crater]

I still think lace was sent by pk to pharloom and is just putting on a deception to try kill hornet to maintain her cover

[viscid ridge]

Im gonna sound mean, but i don't think lace will have a redemption. She doesn't seem like the character who will be able to change, but i may be wrong

[feral thistle]

Pk is long dead even before the events of Hollow Knight, how would he do this 😭

[opal beacon]

OK, maybe Lace is actually evil

[lusty sorrel]

her dialogue actually shows it

[real crater]

Like before the infection

[feral thistle]

I'm pretty sure silksong happens after that

[drifting igloo]

well technically its not today its tomorrow

[opal beacon]

Different timezones

[steep walrus]

For me it's already sept 4 so TODAY

[feral thistle]

Otherwise Hallownest would probably object to having their princess being kidnapped if it was still around

[real crater]

Yes pk sent lace to pharloom long ago

[feral thistle]

Why would pk want Hornet dead

[opal beacon]

Maybe Phantom is blackwyrm

[viscid ridge]

Why would the PK want to kill his daughter tho?

[drifting igloo]

well fuck

[feral thistle]

Same for me

[viscid ridge]

She has something to do with wyrms, like i can't prove it fully but i swear she is

[feral thistle]

The age of silk has already begun

[opal beacon]

Yes, YES

[real crater]

Pk sent lace to infiltrate pharloom lace becomes subordinate to citadel

[thick canyon]

Guys is there a reason why the creatures in pharloom are not Bugs?

[real crater]

Citadel wants to kill hornet lace acts like it wants to kill hornet but secretly helps hornet

[opal beacon]

Sergeant Doakes situation, you know Phantom is blackwyrm, but you can't prove it

[lusty sorrel]

this feels pushed

[silent hawk]

I believe I have determined that the bugs

[viscid ridge]

But wouldn't she use nails or the sorts? She seems to use the same pin weapons pharloom uses?

[viscid ridge]

Weres that one gif of the guy from dexter

[real crater]

It's a stupid theory dw about it

[opal beacon]

Yes, peak show

[lusty sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[opal beacon]

Especially first four seasons and dexter: resurrection

[viscid ridge]

Yeahhhh

[real crater]

There is no Dexter after s5

[viscid ridge]

When you know phantom is related to a wyrm, but you cant prove it

[opal beacon]

Bay Phantom Blackwyrm

[real crater]

Hey might as well say void

[thick canyon]

I still fully belive the blackwyrm is the coloseum of fools

[feral thistle]

I like that everyone here is trying to make a connection between the two games when the lore will probably be entirely separate besides a few common elements

[opal beacon]

Dexter Fans will understand

[viscid ridge]

She seems to almost be like a vessel

[real crater]

Nooooooooooooo

[viscid ridge]

Same

[feral thistle]

Didn't team cherry say you don't need to know anything about the first game to play the new one?

[opal beacon]

Yes

[thick canyon]

They will likely expand on lifeblood and void

[feral thistle]

Yeah those are the elements I was referring to

[exotic trellis]

that was their goal, yes

[opal beacon]

BUT, steam description says: "uncover ancient secrets tied to your nature and your past"

[real crater]

Could be referring to weavers

[thick canyon]

I think it can still work

[opal beacon]

And Hornet birth

[feral thistle]

Sounds more like flavour text

It could mean almost anything

[thick canyon]

They have stated that meny times

[opal beacon]

TC said that we will uncover ancient mysteries in Silksong

[thick canyon]

And hornets back story

[opal beacon]

Sounds great, we love mysteries

[feral thistle]

Suspicious, but we'll see in a few hours when some mf 100%s the game on the first day of release

[thick canyon]

(i Dont remember the exact quote)

[viscid ridge]

Im still of the opinion silksong will happen a bit before hk. Ive also heard a theory that if silksong is a prequal, and hornet fixes whatever is wrong in pharloom, can lead to the weavers from HK returning back home

[opal beacon]

They said her nature and her past

[feral thistle]

But the weavers are already in pharloom, pretty sure we saw evidence of that in footage

[opal beacon]

I hope its a sequel

[thick canyon]

Yeah me too

[viscid ridge]

Yeah thats the problem, i gues well have to see

[opal beacon]

Pharloom is weavers home

They graduated to Deepnest at some point

[thick canyon]

It seams like it

[viscid ridge]

I hope its a prequel, but i wont be mad if they make it a sequel (they just have to do it well)

[opal beacon]

Its confirmed by TC

[opal beacon]

Same, i just need deep lore

[thick canyon]

I'm rusty on my 6 year old interviews

[opal beacon]

Oh yeah, 6 years is crazy

[opal beacon]

I'm sitting here only for 2-3 years

[thick canyon]

And now it ends..

[feral thistle]

Or maybe the gameplay will be the new LeBron James of video gaming and we'll all forget about lore and just watch the 10 hour mossbag video afterwards

[opal beacon]

Not on discord, just community itself

[viscid ridge]

No way, im gonna know the lore before mossbag

[opal beacon]

With dialogues, lore is better to understand

[feral thistle]

Assuming Hornet even talks that much

[opal beacon]

She's talking a lot

[feral thistle]

In hk yeah but idk about silksong

[opal beacon]

We can see in different footages, she can communicate in comparison to scrumbio

[viscid ridge]

We see her talking a lot of smack in demos, so i assume she talks a lot more smack in the full game

[feral thistle]

Would have been funnier if she just didn't respond to any of Lace's taunts and silently beat the shit out of her (Ghost would be proud)

[opal beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/kick-lava-why-me-oh-no-this-is-sparta-gif-18971308

[opal beacon]

Hornet kicking Lace into lava be like:

[feral thistle]

Lace surviving a dip in lava has to mean she's one of the strongest characters in the entire verse cause how tf

[real crater]

There is a crest that helps against lava

[feral thistle]

Does lace use crests

[opal beacon]

Not crest, tool called magma bell

[real crater]

Eh potato different thing entirely whats the difference

[trail wasp]

I'm still theorizing (if the game is in sequel order) that Phantom might be some form of the HK that's been reformed. Just think itd be a cool story premise.

[feral thistle]

Also will the whole ost be string based this time or will we also get percussion and wind instruments

[opal beacon]

52 soundtracks....let Christopher Larkin cook, oh, no, song🔥

[trail wasp]

Hornet called the player Ghost, eventually calling the HK Phantom

[thick canyon]

They sayd it will use string instruments more, like how hollow knight had alot of piano

[feral thistle]

I recall Lace's theme being a quartet of string instruments

[opal beacon]

Oh no, Phantom=vessel theory

[trail wasp]

Lace is mostly strings

[opal beacon]

Not just Lace, many soundtracks

[trail wasp]

And has numerous violins

[feral thistle]

Hopefully one day i'll be good enough at violin to play her theme cause it's so good 😭

[opal beacon]

3 violins, 1 cello

[trail wasp]

3 Violins, 1 Viola, 1 Cello

[thick canyon]

Grow more hands

[opal beacon]

Goodbye chat, i will play this peak game

[opal beacon]

No viola, its a quartet

[trail wasp]

There's definitely Viola in Lace

[opal beacon]

But not in description

[thick canyon]

This is not music lore

[feral thistle]

Erm, SONG is in the name

[trail wasp]

There's an entire music section where Viola takes the melody

[opal beacon]

Description only says about 3 violins and 1 cello

[thick canyon]

AHHHH

[feral thistle]

Music will definitely be important to the lore

[opal beacon]

Maybe not IRL, but on FL studio or what Larkin use

[feral thistle]

I forgot the name but there was an actual orchestra he was using for the music

[opal beacon]

Yeah, string quartet

[feral thistle]

Just those? I thought it was a full orchestra

[trail wasp]

I don't think its string quartet, just borrows instruments from the Quartet

[opal beacon]

No, other stuff is not orchestra, just in FL studio type program

[feral thistle]

Aww

I thought all the music would be live orchestra

Cause that's what the lace and presumably trailer music was and both sound incredible

[trail wasp]

There's common fan pieces that do make it into String Quartets

[opal beacon]

Fact : Xbox trailer theme used in moss mother fight

[trail wasp]

But there's others that aren't as well

[trail wasp]

In fact, reviewing most of the fan compositions, most of them are actually Quintets

[edgy stone]

Silksong should contain 7 different hives, just completely seperate areas from everywhere else

[patent cedar]

they should LOCK this channel before silksong releases

[midnight reef]

yes, though that was not the original music for it

[normal cypress]

Silksong hive ranking (controversial):
7.: East Hive
6.: The Abyss Hive
5.: Central hive (it's just too small, fine otherwise).
4.: Hive Waterways
3.: West Hive
2.: The Grand Hive
1.: The Silk and Song Hive (peak)

[tawdry flare]

Really? Abyss Hive at 6? Frankly, I’m disappointed in your taste

[normal cypress]

The lore was cool but the area lacked otherwise, especially compared to the others

[opal beacon]

You forget about North Hive, i think between West Huge and The Grand Hive

[normal cypress]

North and Grand are the same one. I know it can be confusing with the characters saying both.

[celest stump]

Dude east hive at last???? I would say the boss fight brings it up to atleast 4th

And the soundtrack

And that one NPC that did the thing

And the new mechanic that you are forced to figure out

It’s so coollllllll 7th isn’t a worthy place for it

[dark rune]

i love these comments, im imagining one guy saying "For shaw!" and then his legion of copers shouting "FOR SHAW!" and charging into battle

Tomorrow for shaw

[celest stump]

My physics teacher’s last name is Shaw lol

[dark rune]

[celest stump]

He foretold the future

[dark rune]

generations of shaw built up to this moment

[celest stump]

Yes

I’m gonna try to get him to play hollow knight

[dark rune]

lol

hes gonna hear "Shaw" and be like "how did they get my name"

[celest stump]

LOLLLL

[edgy stone]

Since its the last day I think we should do a betting pool on who can get the story closest to the actual game

Not actual money of course but pride

I still think my weavers are evil theory is the closest we'll get

[sullen heath]

guys do you think can we transfer pc game pass save to steam SS

[edgy stone]

I think you can rip the save data yea

[sullen heath]

ah... you was able to transfer hk save to xbox game pass

[lethal burrow]

Very very soon we're going to have actual things to put in this channel

[edgy stone]

Unfortunately

Im quite fond of random bullshit

[sullen heath]

14 hours..

[abstract lynx]

plans to unlock

oh no

[sullen heath]

time to sleep for 14 hours

[solemn heath]

did hornet really silk on the song?

[spark hornet]

perhaps

[spark hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[olive stag]

why do u think they're evil

[shrewd loom]

Will Silksong have a regional price?

[olive stag]

yes, team cherry localizes their prices

[flat hearth]

14 hours bros. Can you believe it??

I’m salivating at the amount of lore that’s about to be zapped into my brain

[flat hearth]

Yes but when in the timeline it happened is still up for debate

[shrewd loom]

The hype (and anxiety) is real!

[lusty sorrel]

no lore theories tomorrow only lore consumption

[blissful quartz]

why would chara make hornet kill her father?

[edgy stone]

Okay do yall say kara or cha ra

I feel like its cha ra but people always pronounce it with a hard k sound like ka ra

[sinful nimbus]

I alternate between pronounciations

[flat hearth]

Who tf is chara

[tawdry flare]

it's technically CARE-UH but i pronounce it CAR-UH

[wintry moss]

you're both wrong it's pronounced craig

[tawdry flare]

They're a non-gendered child,,,,,...

[flat hearth]

Oh I never played that game. There a crossover like some Avengers Infity war type shit or what

[tawdry flare]

that;s what deltatraveler is

[compact moss]

pretty similiar to one of the pronounciations of my display

[half terrace]

I know of another non gendered child from another hit indie game

[heady lily]

Can I get a TLDR of hornets lore from one of you

[compact moss]

Perhaps all humans in the toby fox games universe are genderless

[dark rune]

half a day remains

[sweet citrus]

Anyone think we will see the radiance or the void in ss

[dark rune]

arcane egg is one of the items so maybe

[sweet citrus]

Yeah hopefully cus we don't even know how the all the endings would be canon if not

[half terrace]

Daughter of a spider, and god. Got trained by weavers originally from pharloom at hallownest and now she's there for some reason

[dark rune]

In addition to what Snake said, her dad's wife isn't her mom, rather essentially a spider queen. Her mom had a child with him in agreement that she would then fall asleep forever.

[half terrace]

She's a bastard child

[dark rune]

yeah

and now we enter pharloom

FOR SHAW!

[half terrace]

For shaw!

[sweet citrus]

Git gud!

[half terrace]

You had one job

[sweet citrus]

Fuckass keypad

[terse wadi]

12 hours

[terse wadi]

Arcane eggs are not void

[dark rune]

i know

that earlier civilization seemed to have been closer with the void, though

[heady lily]

Was this all learned through conversations?

[terse wadi]

With WL I think

[heady lily]

WL?

[dark rune]

white lady

[heady lily]

Ahh

I shouldve just replayed and 112 HK before SS. It is now too late lol

[dark rune]

here's the line

[verbal hill]

im silking it

[dark rune]

im songing it

[celest stump]

For my physics teacher!

[dark rune]

For Shaws!

[celest stump]

For shaws!! Lolll

[solemn heath]

damn

i hope the dlc can answer some of the questions

[dark rune]

i personally am of the belief that she songed on the silk

[celest stump]

|| it was so sad when John silksong showed up and sacrificed himself in the end of the game 🥲 ||

SKONG SPOILER ^^^^

Actually a spoiler in the OST page, might be the name of a boss, don’t click if no spoil

[edgy stone]

His title feels weird

Idk ||crust???|| just doesnt sound right at all

Oh its certainly him

[celest stump]

Oops…… didn’t spoiler it

[edgy stone]

||crust in this context is obviously short for crustacean||

Its just kinda stupid as shit

[celest stump]

Yeah

Brooooo…. My spoilering things aren’t working :’(

[edgy stone]

You trying to spoil an image?

If you're on phone press down on the image after selecting it and it gives you the prompt

[celest stump]

Yeah, it says it works but when I send it doesn’t spoil it

[edgy stone]

Odd worked for me

[celest stump]

Oh maybe my things broken, cuz it doesn’t show a spoiler warning for that image lol

Ah now it works, anywayyys ||im not sure if this dude was shown yet but here’s another name||

[stray fog]

how do you access this page?

[celest stump]

It’s the steam page for the OST, just search silksong and it’ll be in the dlcs section

[stray fog]

Bro

The 52nd track

[stray fog]

(spoiler warning)

[steep saddle]

I must NOT get spoiled

I will be leaving the discord for now goodbye

[quartz salmon]

Is the 52nd track like "silksong"

[steep saddle]

It’s the final boss name or something people have told me

I do not know what it is and I do not want to know

[quartz salmon]

Aight

It's really not worth it to look

I think it's a good time to start blocking the word silksong from everything now

[steep saddle]

Yep

I’m muting the server for now

[quick sail]

lmao, holy shit thats some big spoils in the soundtrack

[half creek]

wait the sound track names is out?

[quick sail]

ye, but i wouldnt suggest looking at them

all boss names and (i think) ending name

[half creek]

yeah i wouldnt ofc. but where

[quick sail]

on steam

[steep saddle]

Yeah do NOT look at it I’m muting this very very soon after I engage with a bit more hype

[rancid river]

How many tracks are there? Out of curiosity I'm excited to hear some new Christopher Larkin music after so long

[prime oar]

yo dose any of yall want to play throuh the the game together

[quick sail]

53

[prime oar]

does i mean

[quick sail]

dang, hk had 43 tracks

[stray fog]

Its called "||sister of the void||"

[steep saddle]

It’s longer than hollow knight

[steep saddle]

Don’t tempt me I must resist the spoilers

[rancid river]

Still exciting !! Means it'll either be marginally larger than HK or they're putting in more unique music, both of which are options I enjoy hehe

[steep saddle]

The map is larger too somebody calculated it

[stray fog]

The last 5 songs all make me excited for the lore of this game

[steep saddle]

Gah stop posting it one misclick and I’m cooked

[rancid river]

YESS so hype... Exploring for the first time in HK was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had. I'm so excited !!

[quick sail]

go to sleep lmao

[steep saddle]

Fair

[rancid river]

How many times y'all think store pages going down

[prime oar]

1 or 2

marval rivals had like 144k ppl at one point and survived

[desert cloak]

why does this feel so fanmade😭

[blissful quartz]

Where is ts from

[blissful quartz]

No its actually Jonathan A. Radiance [or john radiance]

[stray fog]

Steam

The page for the silksong ost

[oak aspen]

||im excited for my goat trobbio||

[stray fog]

Suprisingly, trobbio has 2 soundtracks

[oak aspen]

Which makes me even MORE hyped

[hearty tendon]

silksong today???

[oak aspen]

Yes, Silksong today

[hearty tendon]

when?

[oak aspen]

Depends on your time zone

[quick horizon]

Less than 9 hours

[hearty tendon]

in about how many hours

okay

[ornate scarab]

roughly 8

[quick horizon]

8hrs 47minutes

[limpid saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-kni-hollow-knight-silksong-today-silksong-today-gif-2181970622836399486

[velvet vigil]

||Zote is the final boss of Silksong||

[rocky sun]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-basketball-ice-dunk-hornet-gif-3999940650987546913

[viscid ridge]

We all know || Mister Mushroom|| is gonna be the final boss of Silksong silly

[viscid ridge]

Hollow Knight: Silksong Release Countdown https://share.google/WS0w6BtlC9pXfvnBh

[velvet vigil]

||Mister Mushroom is the secret true final boss obviously, like Radiance||

[rocky sun]

nah uh its so obviously gonna be ||the knight||

/s

[viscid ridge]

What if the final boss is the || friends we made along the way||

[sage mirage]

|| Lost Lace? ||

[chrome reef]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-kni-hollow-knight-silksong-today-silksong-today-gif-2181970622836399486

[gilded beacon]

The second song is about Hornet?

||sister of the void?||

[main delta]

Does that confirm that she's not void?

it implies that she is seperate

so i think it at least strenghens the (already very strong) argument

[real crater]

HORNET WAS NEVER VOID

[main delta]

ik

[gilded beacon]

I think that it's about she being the the Knight's sister

[main delta]

yea, and the sister of the rest of the vessles

[cinder storm]

||Lace Void theory.||

/j

[real crater]

Yeah its a reference to her being a half siblings to all the vessels

[main delta]

and she has a connection to ||phantom||

[gilded beacon]

|| Lace is a higher being ||
/j

[real crater]

Lace might be a half hb like hornet

[main delta]

my theory is that ||phantom is the same species as her, half spider and half pale being||

Maybe being a hb helps you host void?

[real crater]

Lace IS NOT VOID

[main delta]

My other theory is that hornet may be some sort of replacement for ||phantom||

[main delta]

But she's black, so she's obviously made of void /j

[real crater]

Oh yeah mb forgot about that cardinal rule of hk

[cinder storm]

Lace is defintely ||the final or true final boss, if anything.||

||Holy shit, just like Vergil in DMC 3.||

[main delta]

I would be suprised if it was'nt ||phantom, or more likeley, what phantom is gaurding "the kingdom's choking refuse" aka the thing in the orb.||

[main delta]

Holy shit ||Leth?||

[bitter mulch]

I have a feeling this is gonna be a cool boss theme

[gilded beacon]

Maybe the song for the ||pilgrim enclave? ||

[lilac mural]

did we have this before

[bitter mulch]

yeah

[lilac mural]

cause it look sick

[bitter mulch]

this is the first time ive seen this screenshot

[gilded beacon]

Fairly recent tbh

[lilac mural]

on the soundtrack

[gilded beacon]

It was show in the GoG website

[bitter mulch]

yeah I only looked at the steam page

[gilded beacon]

Use the spoilers please

[lilac mural]

its... the name of the game but ok

[gilded beacon]

Yeah, but still there's people who don't want to get spoiled, even for the OST names

Srry

[clever grove]

So who do we think the ||sister of the void|| is?

[lilac mural]

they shouldnt be in ss lore then 😭

[lilac mural]

hornet...

[gilded beacon]

Definitely refers to || Hornet || and her connection to the || Vessels ||

[clever grove]

Didn't ||Hornet|| say that|| she wasn't void|| though?

[lilac mural]

yeah but shes ||sister to the void||

[gilded beacon]

She isn't, but the Vessels are and she is their sister

[clever grove]

Oh I get it like related to it in some way

[gilded beacon]

Siblings

[lilac mural]

ok cmon we dont need to spoiler the name hornet 😭

[clever grove]

Yeah that makes sense

[gilded beacon]

There's been six years for that

[clever grove]

Haha I haven't been able to sleep so I guess I'm tired

[lilac mural]

?

[lilac mural]

Lol its fine I'm just messin

hope ya get to sleep

[clever grove]

Appreciate it man. I'm gonna try to. I brought some melatonin with me

[lilac mural]

W

[gilded beacon]

Good night

[clever grove]

Gn!!

[eager ermine]

||I might be spewing bs here but I’m pretty sure there’s a guy who attacks uses things that look like void tendrils in the trailer or cards so maybe||

[gilded beacon]

Sharpe?

[eager ermine]

maybe

[gilded beacon]

Did he look like a mosquito?

[eager ermine]

one sec

oh yep that’s the guy

[gilded beacon]

Maybe? Most likely he's || void ||

[stray fog]

How do we think the citadel / silk and song part of the plot will connect to the void part

[runic laurel]

yo

[supple turret]

zote

[eager ermine]

we might be able to know why zote was looking like a vessel in silksong but eh idk

[gilded beacon]

I think that he looks like a vessel just to make him more of a "knock-off" version of yourself

He's a joke, no need to take him seriously

[stray fog]

True

[eager ermine]

zote goated tho

[misty vigil]

I'm using so much of my willpower NOT to click the ost spoilers

This must be how that royal retainer felt like in the abyss lighthouse

[gilded beacon]

Fr

Just the names of the OST

[long crown]

hornet is hollow knight girlfriend

[dusky nest]

fake news

[runic laurel]

okay i will get silksong

[slow kestrel]

are OST spoilers besides Lace and Bonebottom? i want them hahaha

[dusky nest]

OST probably has a few songs that relate to Hollow Knight Lore, or something similar considering a few people that have been spoiled are screaming to stay away from the OST.

[main delta]

it's basicly nothing

[slow kestrel]

ok i don't want themn anymore

[misty vigil]

It's song names

I heard the last ones are spicy

[slow kestrel]

aaah those i have them

couldn't resist to take a peek

ty ❤️

[stray fog]

They are

The last 5 definitely have lore importance

[gilded beacon]

Yeah

[eager ermine]

I’ve seen the spoilers but without much context it feels kinda nothing burger

[gilded beacon]

There's also one called || " Skarrsinger Karmekita" || but there's also || Red maiden || both could be related to || Carmelita ||

[clever grove]

I'm thinking ||Lace might be the final boss since one of the last tracks is Lost Lace||

||Or at least one of the end game bosses||

[stray fog]

Track number 49 makes me think ||there will be some retconning in silksong||

[mighty drum]

I wonder if ||Sister of the Void|| means either ||her siblings themselves will make an entrance of sorts|| or at least ||her specific connection to the vessels will be relevant||

Could maybe tie into the ||last shot of the Godhome ending with the Hollow Knight leaving the egg?||

[real crater]

No it's just a reference to hornet being sister to void it's probably a somber song that's why it's called sister of the void

[tribal cargo]

SHAWWWW

[mighty drum]

SHAW

[gilded beacon]

Maybe just a flashback to canonice one of the endings or give us more info about Hornet's relationship with Herra and the PK

[mighty drum]

Also, Miss Hornet? That's Princess Hornet to you, interviewer! Smh

[tribal cargo]

EDIIIHOOO

[verbal hill]

||hornet silksogn||

[lost tapir]

?countdown

[opal beacon]

Maybe Lace will be not out ally...

[stray fog]

?tag countdown

[gleaming basin]

Silksong releases on <t:1756994403:f>, <t:1756994400:R>. Ready your needles!

[opal beacon]

If there's || soundtrack called Lost Lace, like one of the final bosses ||

[burnt nymph]

THE SILKSONG

IT'S REAL

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349138242330558535/1413045000626765934/IMG_20250823_111651_767.webp?ex=68ba8035&is=68b92eb5&hm=9b859c7adbcb6a524e71b96532a5138cb7810775e651fa675670182bd0e10832&

[sage mirage]

I hope that || The Lost Lace || fight is going to be really cool
Lile if judge on the footage we have it isn't that impressive
Hope for the some kind of second phase or what

[earnest carbon]

the lace fight is already better than most fights in hollow knight

[dawn crest]

Bros, I got a theory

It just poped out in my mind and is very crazy but I wanted to share it

[neat plank]

how do they capture hornet

[dawn crest]

What if the whole Silksong passes in some kind of anthill

And instead of Absolute Radiance, all is controlled by an human

I promise I didn't smoke anything

[dawn crest]

That also could explain how they captured Hornet

It was captured by a human

for his/her anthill

My fella said that make no sense but I think that would be cool

What do you guys think?

[pliant wasp]

will Zote be in Silksong? thoughts

[dawn crest]

I would like, but I don't think so

[pliant wasp]

if only then I could beat his ass verbally

[dawn crest]

Yeah, I would really like to see that

[neat plank]

Do u think the hollow knight has something to do with this cuz in 4th ending he walks towards hornet

[dawn crest]

Maybe, I don't know

[rugged wolf]

Fr 😭

[dawn crest]

Maybe that ending only explains that instead of the Knight was Hornet who defeated the Hollow Knight

[neat plank]

Why would she defeat hollow knight if there is no infection or smt

[dawn crest]

Yeah, I still can't belive it

[dawn crest]

Idk

[violet hare]

I think the most interesting song from the OST is || Sister of the Void ||

[dark rune]

we do it.... FOR SHAW!

[cosmic wedge]

Agreed

[elder cobalt]

In the new image from the ost page, (the red one with drill enemies) is it a different area do you think? Or a sub area at least?

[gilded beacon]

Maybe small area like Fog Canyon

[elder cobalt]

Yeah true

[earnest carbon]

I think it's what connects the coral forest with the dusty area

[elder cobalt]

Could be yeah

3 hours left let’s gooooo

[normal cypress]

When we first saw the boss version I was thinking it would be either greymoor or the dusty area. Seeing this screenshot now (thanks for letting me know it exists) I do think it's related to one of the oceanic areas if not greymoor or the desert one

[elder cobalt]

Yeah I thought it would also be in one of those areas, now I’m thinking something small maybe like mantis village or smthn

Seeing as there’s the small and boss versions of the drill guys

And I reckon the bosses will (obv) give the red drill tool

[solemn heath]

||why did john silksong attack hornet||

[elder cobalt]

He’s got a point

[solemn heath]

hmmm

||but that wasnt a good first interaction||

[earnest carbon]

I'm glad the boss isn't as simple as it as seemed when it was first shown

[elder cobalt]

They aren’t the same are they?

[earnest carbon]

They should be

[elder cobalt]

I thought these were just enemies whereas the actual boss is the huge ones that go through the walls

[earnest carbon]

Yh
But I hope the boss fight isn't that simple

[earnest carbon]

This place is definitely a sub-area of the coral forest

[elder cobalt]

Yeah taking a second look you can definitely see coral esque vibes

[earnest carbon]

True

[normal cypress]

Yeah I agree with this. We just saw the same boss in the trailer 2 weeks ago right? They looked the same as they did

[elder cobalt]

Yep

[earnest carbon]

Might be the worst boss in the game if all you had to do was jump

[elder cobalt]

They have only shown (to my knowledge) that one part where they go horizontally through the walls, there is a decent chance the boss has more depth that tc hasn’t shown just yet

[timber minnow]

Oh hey fun question - do you think the troupe will be in ss?

I thought that ||i saw smth similar in the trailer.||

[elder cobalt]

I mean there are 3 abilities that look a lot like Grimm attacks but I don’t think so

[earnest carbon]

Hopefully
Though idk how they can make bosses that tunnel in straight lines more complex
Maybe they can desync them

[timber minnow]

Hmm ok, i mean ||maybe pharloom isnt the type of place they target yet||

[earnest carbon]

Probably not

[elder cobalt]

Could somehow use audio positioning and they can fly in curve maybe

[earnest carbon]

Yh it's not a dead kingdom

[elder cobalt]

It’s a haunted land

[earnest carbon]

Audio positioning?

[stray fog]

Where did you get this screenshot

[earnest carbon]

Still alive tho

[timber minnow]

Probably a trailer

[earnest carbon]

Steam ost page

[elder cobalt]

Yk how like 3d audio works and you can hear in different positions, although it wouldn’t really be good for acccessibility reasons

I can’t really explain 3d audio well but it’s a thing if you search it up

[stray fog]

Crazy how this screenshot would have been considered silksong news a month ago

[elder cobalt]

Still is

[earnest carbon]

Yh
Now it's just overlooked

[elder cobalt]

Well I might go for now

Bye happy theorising

[earnest carbon]

Bye

[timber minnow]

Also, what npcs could we theoretically meet again in ss?

[flat moss]

I imagine it’s gonna be a simple flow boss like mantis lords

[flat moss]

Zote

I am coping yes

[rotund wigeon]

Maybe in a bad ending theyd go there idk

[scenic wraith]

where did this screenshot come from?

[earnest carbon]

Steam ost page

[scenic wraith]

more than double the songs of the original hk soundtrack is crazy

[charred nimbus]

Im 100% sure that || silksong will be a prequel ||

[fringe cloud]

i've had the same thought ngl, but I'm kinda hoping it's not so we can see some ref to the og hk

[inner prawn]

I'll be a tiny bit disappointed if it's a prequel

[broken bear]

why?

[charred nimbus]

My only argument to this theory is that|| in our first fight front off hornet in green path , she says that she took time to come back to hallownest , but where did she goes then ? Certainly in pharloom ||

[vestal swan]

No she doesn't?

[scenic wraith]

i think it's a prequel since she learns the silk storm move in silksong, unless she has lost all her powers due to the cage thing at the start

[vestal swan]

She did get a power reset

[charred nimbus]

You can verify but in her quotes she says smthin like that , she was somewhere else

[vestal swan]

That was from a bad translation that line doesn't actually exist

The translator was so bad they made it up

[charred nimbus]

For me it’s just an inconsistency, silksong wasn’t suppose to be a following part , it was planned to be a dlc

[vestal swan]

DLC usually comes after the game

[inner prawn]

Just the lack of aspects from her journey in Pharloom being in Hollow Knight. Like you can't tell me that she wouldn't obliterate the Knight in the Greenpath encounter. And if she up and loses her memory or something at the end of Silksong that's just a really boring idea to me.

[vestal swan]

Your fabricating reasons for it to not make sense

[charred nimbus]

We gonna see in few hours if I’m right or not

[scenic wraith]

She holds back during the first fight. (She says, before the second fight, that she won't hold back this time)

[charred nimbus]

Anyway if it’s a prequel or a sequel I’ll enjoy the game

[broken bear]

personally ive always believed its a sequel because we see her being brought into pharloom from a very windy landscape

the outskirts of hallownest just so happen to be very windy

[gentle aspen]

I have looked at the OST

Every single song name

[scenic wraith]

i have snuck a glance at them

[celest stump]

The opening scene in one of the trailers kind of looks like howling cliffs imo

[broken bear]

exactly

[inner prawn]

I guess. Still in the second fight she doesn't have half the abilities she'll get in Silksong. It'll just feel a little off to me

[scenic wraith]

Well mechanically it wouldn't make a fun fight if she spammed emotes at you would it

[broken bear]

well hornet can equip differnt tools and crests, so she mightve just only had the spike tools on

[scenic wraith]

yeah

[broken bear]

iirc the spike tools are in silksong

[celest stump]

Do yall think it’s a prequel or a sequel??

[broken bear]

sequel personally

but i can justify how it could be a prequel, so i wont mind if it is

[celest stump]

I agree

[icy aurora]

sequel but i don't mind either way really

[inner prawn]

Oh yeah, there's also the seal breaking bugs in Silksong and not Hollow Knight, but they could easily be endangered or something and die out by the end of Silksong

[broken bear]

well theyre shown to be controlled by lace

[celest stump]

We shall have to wait and see! Silksong releases in about 2 hours where I’m at, and I’m Turning off discord for the entirety of the time playing lol😌

[broken bear]

im just leaving the server after its out and joining back once i dont mind spoilers lol

[uneven oak]

any thoughts?

[inner prawn]

That means there's a chance Lace dies by the end of Silksong if it's a prequel

[gentle aspen]

yeah

void’s in dere

[celest stump]

Dudeeeeee

Do u not know how to spoiler warning ur messages 🙏

[uneven oak]

||sister of the void|| for sure will be one of the reasons my mind will shatter into pieces

[celest stump]

Ah ok

[uneven oak]

there are many songs by the end of the album that make me a bit worried tbf

[finite beacon]

You think Hornet is gonna have dialogue options for various npcs?

[uneven oak]

i hope so