I really like the lvl 0 starting fungi for balancing around other population producing options, but it does really cripple Cymanti's start. 7 stars would allow a Wa and a fungi to start, keeping Cym early game in line with other tribes (but still preventing really early Centipedes)
#Cymanti 7⭐ start
cursive locust
earnest maple
Honestly seeing just how weak cymanti really is now (I can say with absolute confidence they're bottom 1 by a mile), they could really use this
cursive locust
Honestly seeing just *how* weak cymanti really is now (I can say with absolute c...
I wish we had more beta time (to iterate on changes), because I think 7 stars would really help see how the rest of the changes with Cym's units work. Because right now I can't even test how good they are because Cym eco lags so far behind atm
sudden ingot
bottom 1 by a mile?!
earnest maple
what tribe is close to being as bad as cym? Yad?
silk glade
why should cym be a good tribe
cursive locust
what tribe is close to being as bad as cym? Yad?
lol Yad starts with extra stars now, they are doing well
sudden ingot
7* seems reasonable then
earnest maple
why should cym be a good tribe
why not? Is there any downside to further increasing the diversity in the meta?
cursive locust
why not? Is there any downside to further increasing the diversity in the meta?
Well it is a breath of fresh air for Cym to not be overly meta 😈
sudden ingot
a cap ws is delayed by 1 turn by the fungi nerf, so a 2* increase to starting stars (if you were going to get cap ws anyway) compensates, and allows for a t0 warrior too
earnest maple
Well it is a breath of fresh air for Cym to not be overly meta 😈
I can agree but I don't think that means that cym should now be completely unusable lol
just seems petty to justify nerfing a tribe to the ground because "they've been good for too long"
cursive locust
better for the game health to err on the side of too much though
not enough and the meta doesn't change, still stale
but I agree, I want Cym playable. hence 7 stars
sudden ingot
maybe it's a bit boring, you will get t0 fungi + warrior every game
earnest maple
well their eco would still be crippled but at least their expansion wouldn't be
lone carbon
I also keep thinking about some way to make fungi better in the midgame. It is very expensive to have to spend 5 stars for a city upgrade that won't have effect until a few turns down the line. Maybe something like recycling making your fungi start with 1 instead? Or letting them grow 2 levels per turn? But I also don't want to make recycling an instant buy right at the start of any cymanti match.
So maybe letting recycling unlock an ability where you speed up fungi development? Allowing you to spend 1 star for 1 pop. That would mean you could get a full fungus for 8 stars, or just wait your 3 turns for the 5 pop. Definitely worth it but not necessarily before you capture c2
8 for 3 pop does sound very good though... Maybe make it a once per turn purchase. So turn 1 you spend a star to get 1 pop, and turn 2 you spend a star yo go up to 3
On the note of the original post, even 6 star Cymanti already hits some nice threshold where it can make the second fungi a turn sooner
sudden ingot
speeding up fungi growth seems a bit finnicky
idk in general I distinctly remember when I was first learning polytopia and cymanti, and being annoyed that clarthus poisoned
(back when it did)
it was like, one too many new mechanics for the special tribe
lone carbon
it was like, one too many new mechanics for the special tribe
Hmm ok yeah, that might be true
lone carbon
it was like, one too many new mechanics for the special tribe
Also on the buying extra growth? That one looks more straightforward
I just want to make recycling a tech that has a use other than getting a tower of wisdom 😅
lone carbon
recycle non-fungis into spores?
I was thinking of recycling units into spores
sudden ingot
recycling to allow all cymanti units to explode 😄
lone carbon
And with how slow spores are nowadays, I don't even know if it would be that broken. Tons of centipedes in the long run though
cursive locust
And with how slow spores are nowadays, I don't even know if it would be that bro...
Tons of centipedes because Cym currently has baked in infinite growth 😂 haven't seen anyone talking about it though
lone carbon
Tons of centipedes because Cym currently has baked in infinite growth 😂 haven't...
That's because nobody has the time to play a massive live game with Cymanti 😛
cursive locust
also boomchi can walk on land and explode for 5
lone carbon
They can't. No exploding on land. I tried
lone carbon
This was how I found out. Primed and ready to make a 5 star and a 3 star clathrus
cursive locust
Honestly I wish Doomux got the Raychi treatment instead
cursive locust
the fruit still seems weird to me
it's so weird. you make a fungi, get the fruit, and then you use a unit to remove the fungi. rinse and repeat
cursive locust
split into boomux and doomux?
yeah. Both get lots of movement, Boomux gets sneak to get past the Frontline and explode on pesky catas
Put boomux where psychi is, psychi with Sailing