No water geysers flipped asteroid run | Oxygen Not Included | Page 1

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 12:49 PM

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starting dupes

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cold biomes right next to pod

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for some reason im way too left on the starmap

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rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 1:20 PM

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cycle 5, rushing insulated tiles and digging up food

lime epoch Sep 12, 2023, 1:21 PM

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bro....

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no geysers

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idek how i would do that

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 1:21 PM

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new farmer

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 1:21 PM

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lime epoch idek how i would do that

i have a plan for water production

alpine forge Sep 12, 2023, 1:30 PM

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lime epoch idek how i would do that

It's easy. There is so much water. You will use your refinery for melting ice.

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 1:32 PM

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yea but its not renewable

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planning on having as many dupes as i can feed

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so prob more than 15

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cycle 10

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cook

noble finch Sep 12, 2023, 2:09 PM

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What I’d do is starvation ranch critters and wild plant crops using pips to solve food, then experiment with various ways of producing polluted dirt and polluted water and use deodorizers to convert that to oxygen

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Question 1: How much oxygen would the polluted water production from duplicants using the bathroom make?

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Polluted water -> oxygen conversion rate using deodorizers is 90% and 100% if condensed which is higher than the electrolyzer’s 88%

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Duplicants can recover approx a ninth of their oxygen needs from the bathroom so that’s probably not sustainable, especially since it would require water to feed the bathrooms

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Question 2: what is the conversion ratio of polluted dirt to oxygen?

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If it’s still 90%, then maybe wild farming exuberant plants and intentionally letting it go bad is a good idea

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But exuberant would require fertilizer, which requires phosphorite, which requires dreckos, which require plants

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So maybe just letting the food go bad is a better idea

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Wild planted arbor trees are water positive as well

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Petrolium generator makes 750 g/s of polluted water

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Ethanol Converts to polluted water at a rate of 2.4kg Ethanol/0.9kg Polluted Water

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 2:31 PM

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Im not doing that

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Ill put in use the sulfur geyser, ranch grubgrubs for mud and sweetles for sucrose

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Will have as many grubgrub ranches as i have to keep up with oxygen

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And will try to feed dupes berry pie

noble finch Sep 12, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Oh yeah I guess the other geysers exist lol

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I was thinking in terms of a no-geysers run

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 2:34 PM

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Have done that before tho on swamp

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With a huge forest and ethanol loops

noble finch Sep 12, 2023, 2:35 PM

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Yeah that's exactly what I'm currently looking at

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Though intentionally letting food go bad is an interesting concept

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You could also go for Oxyferns as they are very oxygen positive

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 3:00 PM

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will see ill have to visit a forest biome for that

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2nd researcher to get research done faster

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 4:18 PM

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cycle 20, will start making my way to the space biome so i can clear the magma from top to bottom

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at the same time ill scout space, send a rocket to whatever asteroid is nearby and maybe get me some plastic

alpine forge Sep 12, 2023, 4:43 PM

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Well thats to easy 😄

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 4:59 PM

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somnium trait is on starting asteroid

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 7:33 PM

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geysers are so out of the way that i think wild planting every plant will be my move

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will feed all the sulfur to sweetles and then the sugar to grubgrubs

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 7:55 PM

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cycle 30

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 8:25 PM

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anyone know how many sweetles i can feed with a sulfur geyser?

weak canopy Sep 12, 2023, 9:20 PM

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At least 2

rich tide Sep 12, 2023, 9:24 PM

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thanks harold the office plant

lime epoch Sep 12, 2023, 11:02 PM

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I fucking love that name

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Anyways 0 because sweetles don’t eat sulfur geysers 🙄

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 6:16 AM

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cycle 40 surface breach, waiting for telescope to scan nearby space

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 6:43 AM

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a lot of poi nearby and desoland is close

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sucks that swamp is more than 5 tiles away

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my plan is to make a base on desoland and get rocketry up there

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also really good geysers

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this will be space mined a lot

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ill get a spom up first and then swap my focus to rocketry and taming the sulfur geyser

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:09 AM

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rich tide thanks harold the office plant

It isn’t impossible that it could feed more though, you’ll have to check how much a sweetle eats

If you need food only you could starvation ranch them, they still increase their numbers that way.

Now I’m thinking of a pO2 to CO2 to oil to sour gas to Sulfur machine, but that may be out of reach for now

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:10 AM

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rich tide cycle 40 surface breach, waiting for telescope to scan nearby space

Every flipped map I get has no exit.

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:10 AM

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why would i need to make sulfur when i have a geyser

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i clearly asked how many sweetles it can feed, im not planning to starvation ranch them

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they will be my water production

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7th dupe

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:13 AM

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Have you made it to desolands

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:14 AM

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its cycle 50

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:14 AM

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I’ve seen people go really quickly

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I was just wondering

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:15 AM

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because they are playing with teleporters

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im not

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:16 AM

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I mean rocket launches

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Not just second colonies

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:16 AM

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ive never seen anyone breach space and launch before cycle 100 on flipped

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not that its that hard its just not needed

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that early

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:17 AM

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I don’t think I saw a flipped run. I think it was either desolands or rad ocean

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:17 AM

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well its faster on the other planetoids

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 7:18 AM

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Ah.

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:44 AM

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cycle 60 building spom

lime epoch Sep 13, 2023, 12:31 PM

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rich tide also really good geysers

hang on thats a csv

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 12:46 PM

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Yes?

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first rocket cycle 79, will send a rover to desoland and one to frozen forest

lime epoch Sep 13, 2023, 12:58 PM

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I thought this was no water geysers

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 1:01 PM

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on starting planetoid..

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even if it was no water geysers its nearly impossible to find a seed without water geysers

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8th dupe cycle 81

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built a temporary refinery

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 1:30 PM

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first rocket launch c87, have never seen one launch faster than this

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 3:12 PM

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this trait is on frozen forest, planning on having my lime production here

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will have some ethanol loops to feed sage hatches fom coal

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getting both food and coal at the same time

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dont think ill do anything insane here, maybe 6 dupes

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:36 PM

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hermit is also on frozen forest

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 7:59 PM

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desoland temps are okay, unfortunately there is no abyssalite on the oil biome

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 8:15 PM

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4 of the oil wells are really close to each other so ill probably make a room to include all of them

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have a normal and minor volcano too, thinking about using them for a boiler till i get thermium

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 8:49 PM

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mod

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map overlay or sth

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 9:14 PM

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saw it from koh

weak canopy Sep 13, 2023, 9:42 PM

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rich tide even if it was no water geysers its nearly impossible to find a seed without wat...

It’s impossible. Each of the moonlets except flipped and swampy have water geysers, and so does water planet

rich tide Sep 13, 2023, 9:52 PM

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Desoland can spawn without one fyi

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Only frozen forest and radioocean have a 100% spawn

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Im 99% sure ive seen it on toolsnotincluded

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Never had it spawn without one either

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100% sure* just confirmed it

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rich tide Sep 14, 2023, 12:21 PM

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started diggin out the rocks in the ice biomes

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also sent a rocket to desoland, got a drecko egg, some plants, iron ore and phosphorite and will be leaving soon

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rich tide Sep 15, 2023, 8:17 PM

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c135 started cleaning out minerals in the cold biome areas and let all the ice melt.Got like 300kg of steel to use on pumps

noble finch Sep 15, 2023, 8:22 PM

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What’s your plans for the magma biome?

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It wouldn’t be too hard to just drop it all into space to clear it up but it’s also a lot of potential power

rich tide Sep 15, 2023, 8:25 PM

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that sounds too easy

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ill ~~probably~~ compress it and use it for power

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dumping it to space sounds boring

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im hoping the nearby space poi is a planetoid

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praying for the niobium/regolith planets

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top middle and bottom left

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for now ill set up a single atmosuit dock and try moving the magma out of the way

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so i can start harvesting the sulfur

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rich tide Sep 15, 2023, 11:06 PM

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started building the main base

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also draining the magma around the sulfur geyser

rich tide Sep 16, 2023, 12:15 AM

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didnt expect it at all but actually got the regolith planetoid this close

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i can finally try to tame it

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has enough water for the 5 dupes i want to have living there

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need to set up the sulfur production so i can get lime asap

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idk how im going to do it but a regolith melter on desoland is an interesting idea

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just in time, first glossy drecko egg c162

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two of the best space poi in steam engine range

rich tide Sep 16, 2023, 1:55 PM

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hired dupes on desoland and started clearing some space

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ive never had two of the outer planetoids within steam engine range

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crashed satellites too, will make launching iron so much easier

rich tide Sep 16, 2023, 5:36 PM

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sending mi ma on a one way mission to start colonizing the swamp planetoid

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will do same thing for radio ocean when im not bored

noble finch Sep 16, 2023, 7:08 PM

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rich tide ill ~~probably~~ compress it and use it for power

As someone who has a compressed magma biome, if you do it prepare for many hours of effort

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I did it using corner airflow tile building

rich tide Sep 16, 2023, 7:37 PM

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i dont really care i dont have many options for power

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you mean it will take hours to cool or it will take hours to compress

noble finch Sep 16, 2023, 7:48 PM

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It'll take a long time to compress

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I did it manually and it probably took about 700 cycles

rich tide Sep 16, 2023, 8:50 PM

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There is no way ill do it manually

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escher it

rich tide Sep 17, 2023, 1:45 PM

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waiting on steel and the skillpoints for a mechatronics engineer to build the turbine

rich tide Sep 17, 2023, 3:17 PM

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cycle 250

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set up some ranches cause steel production was extremely slow

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will be using led suits on desoland for now, i dont have the heat deletion rn to deal with the heat of dreckos

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the critter trait is on swamp

rich tide Sep 18, 2023, 11:08 PM

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cycle 300, tamed the sulfur geyser, went over on frozen forest to build a pod and steal some pips for the wild farming

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wont have much time to play this week and the next bcs of exams

rich tide Sep 19, 2023, 3:06 AM

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can you suggest me things i could do on swamp, radio ocean and desoland? dont care how complicated/late game they are, i can build them

weak canopy Sep 19, 2023, 6:01 AM

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Oxygen to magma machine, rocket full of neutronium, plastic to sour gas boiler

rich tide Sep 19, 2023, 7:22 AM

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idk what the first one is, no to the second one

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plastic to methane sounds fun and doable

weak canopy Sep 19, 2023, 8:41 AM

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rich tide idk what the first one is, no to the second one

O2 or pO2 -> Pufts-> oxylite or molten glass-> magma or rock gas

rich tide Sep 19, 2023, 2:57 PM

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I could do that on the niobium planet

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Use the niobium to make a glass factory

rich tide Sep 19, 2023, 9:37 PM

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sweet steel

weak canopy Sep 19, 2023, 11:13 PM

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Are you planning on doing the hatch/diamond press loop?

rich tide Sep 19, 2023, 11:48 PM

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yes on frozen forest

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all there is to do there tbh

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im thinking about sending all the iron from the tear opener asteroid there

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so i can have refineries and make the steel there

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tear opener asteroid has crashed satellites

weak canopy Sep 20, 2023, 1:23 AM

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That’s so good

rich tide Sep 20, 2023, 1:28 AM

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that will require so much work tho

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i made a promise with myself that ill continue to play even if its on 1x speed

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i dont know if i will be home for long, my pc can handle it. im worrying about my laptop just exploding

noble finch Sep 20, 2023, 3:41 AM

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You could try using Parsec to remote into your PC as long as you’re good with some latency

rich tide Sep 20, 2023, 5:31 AM

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i wont have wifi or any signal in open sea unfortunately

noble finch Sep 20, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Oh yeah that won't work lol

rich tide Sep 22, 2023, 5:53 PM

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wild farm is almost done, havent planted sleet wheat yet, trying to focus on desoland for now, get the csv tamed

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weak canopy Sep 23, 2023, 12:16 AM

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Every flipped map I generate has the exit chimney severed… don’t know why

lime epoch Sep 23, 2023, 3:26 AM

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Because fuck you that’s why

rich tide Sep 23, 2023, 8:58 AM

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It wouldnt really matter, ive had it not be connected before

rich tide Sep 23, 2023, 5:17 PM

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im kinda feeling this run will not have flipped as the center of attention asteroid even tho i started on it

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im not even sure if i want to build any fancy rockets on it

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since these 3 mining fields exist within steam engine range, i think ill be using solely steam on this

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also there are 2 outer planetoids reached with steam engine too

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the true main planetoid will probably be frozen forest

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all the lime, diamond, coal, everything production will be there

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and it has radiation for the launchers

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flipped will always be a place full of sweetle ranches

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that considered i think ill swap my focus to frozen forest

rich tide Sep 23, 2023, 11:06 PM

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dont have power set up yet but csv is tamed

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rich tide Sep 25, 2023, 7:29 PM

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progression on desoland base so far

lime epoch Sep 25, 2023, 7:41 PM

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how are you getting power on your main asteroid

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or are you just like not using it

rich tide Sep 25, 2023, 8:31 PM

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i have a lot of solar panels on top of the map but they arent connected to a battery yet, just powering the aquatuner for the sulfur tamer during daytime

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a big waste i know but i have so many projects rn i cant focus on that

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other than that mostly coal, i have 120t i want to use

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and some hydrogen

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this is how main looks

lime epoch Sep 25, 2023, 8:59 PM

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do you have to defend the solar panels at all

rich tide Sep 25, 2023, 9:00 PM

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no there are no meteors on flipped

lime epoch Sep 25, 2023, 9:00 PM

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ok

rich tide Sep 25, 2023, 9:01 PM

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im building the main base for now and figuring out water production

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power was never an issue so far

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i have natgas and hydrogen geysers

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but havent used them yet

rich tide Sep 26, 2023, 6:37 PM

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found a flaw on this csv tamer design, it keeps on cooling the water

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ill break it and lower the pump two tiles and deconstruct the liquid reservoirs under it

rich tide Sep 26, 2023, 7:57 PM

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finally proper cooling on desoland

rich tide Sep 26, 2023, 8:57 PM

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fixed

rich tide Sep 27, 2023, 1:48 AM

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rich tide Sep 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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i believe ill start to run into issues on main planet fast since im running out of water and im not really producing enough to sustain 10 dupes

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i feel like i should drop to like 4 dupes

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since there is really nothing to do here

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and have the 6 dreamers on frozen forest

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along with like 10 other dupes

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since there is a water source there and im planning on having a pretty big ethanol loop

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4 ranchers will be enough i think

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i was planning on having this planet for the boost given by the dream trait

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actually 2 ranchers a pilot and a cook

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think that will be the plan

rich tide Sep 28, 2023, 2:35 AM

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ok i decided, fuck it we ball

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ill send 6 dupes in a rocket to frozen forest

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the only thing ive sent there is ~~a rover~~2 rovers like 300 cycles ago

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will just bring some food along

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things will be slow af on flipped but at this point i dont care

rich tide Sep 28, 2023, 3:10 AM

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ill prob demolish this farm

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sadge

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sweetles produce way more than enough meat for 4 dupes

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maybe ill feed some domestic ones for berry sludge for the rockets

rich tide Sep 28, 2023, 1:51 PM

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started digging out frozen forest with my 6 dupes

flint python Sep 30, 2023, 10:20 AM

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you mean there is no reason for the other channel to exist, right?

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wait... I was misleaded!! spacedupe

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Sorry about that... I should have scrolled down more

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