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random night
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HOW TO BUILD

stiff hearth
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I would suggest adding a lip above the boiling pot

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So that when the petroleum flows out and into the counterflow it has to drop and exist separately from the 404c petro and so when it exchanges temp w the incoming oil it doesn’t overheat it

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This should fix and pipe breaking while still allowing maximum heat exchange

random night
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The pipe only broke because while I was designing it I kept having to rebuild the at and pump area which the pipes ran through

noble talon
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How much power this uses is the question, to compare to a volcano powered one for example

frozen fiber
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It's customary in a AT heated petrol boiler to use the output petroleum as the counter for the coolant loop instead of a tepidizer.
And I'll echo the concern about the boiler design in general.

random night
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I’ve been using it for about 50 cycles in game. Only breaks when you turn off the flow of oil. Then when you turn it back in you gotta go in to fix the pipe

random night
random night
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And if you are concerned using Jmax’s idea would almost certainly fix any pipe breaking

stiff hearth
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I will also repeat the sentiment that using a tepidizer seems pointless when you can cool the petroleum that is being output

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its just wasted cooling

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can use it for cooling off petrol gens asw as another alternative

noble talon
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. that's odd.

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The tepidizer is normally a cooling bank, just activating when the aquatuner cools things too much, and acts as a stability source normally.

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Because if things get too cold slowly over time, eventually everything will break

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So I 100% do not recommend (if the design works as I think)

stiff hearth
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if you are cooling the petroleum that is being pumped out

noble talon
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removing the tepidizer and replacing the functionality with other things

noble talon
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running it through the aquatuner as coolant

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or cooling the outgoing petroleum

stiff hearth
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assuming your raw oil being brought to the system isn't really low temp (standard is 95c) then it should be fine

noble talon
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Which you could actually use to heat up the incoming crude oil

stiff hearth
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you only cool petroleum that is being pumped out

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and is within 1 degree of the incoming oil

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you don't run it through the aquatuner for obv reasons

noble talon
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Mm in this case the aquatuner isn't cooling anything else, so if you really wanted colder petroleum you could

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but hotter petroleum = petroleum generators in industrial saunas, so i fail to see the reasoning

stiff hearth
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you would cool the petroleum solely for the sake of not wasting energy and space on a tepidizer

noble talon
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The tepidizer here is probably active like 2% of the time, it's really not a problem.

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That's how much active it is in my rectangular self powered petroleum well

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that's only 32w of power.

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The bigger problem in this design is

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Well, don't use super coolant gas in the aquatuner chamber, use molten lead.

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is a liquid over 300C and has a HIGHER thermal conductivity than liquid super coolant.

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asides from taking 10 tons of the stuff per tile, it's a great coolant.

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so that'd be 50 tons of lead going into that one build lol

stiff hearth
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in SO that might not be ideal

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since lead is one of the resources you are limited on

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could just use solid tiles of something else like aluminum or if you don't like using the tile bug then tempshift plates with water works fine

noble talon
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blobshrug you have like 300 tons of lead

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50 tons of that isn't much

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what else u gonna use it on?

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Lead metal tiles for space radiation? Just use plastic or bunker tiles.

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Lead has barely any uses asides from being a very good HOT coolant

random night
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I use a tepidizer because it is the most secure option.

frozen fiber
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You're using supercoolant in the AT, right?
It literally can't freeze. There's no way you can "overcool" it so it's a rather moot point.
However, you could just use water or pwater. That would still allow about 28c temperature difference to be achieved between the heat exchanger output and the boiler output. Obviously at the cost of more power.
I still feel the biggest caveat is the boiler design. It's not an inherently safe design like a blinking boiler.

atomic tartan
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Using water or pwater as coolant for the thermoaquatuner is bad.
Their temp range is narrow so it's very hard to tune it. You will ended up with unstable system

frozen fiber
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Not necessarily. It just takes more effort. Note how I use the words "could use" pwater. And stipulate the main drawbacks. It's not a suggestion.

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Here's two posts where I describe the inherently safe blinking boiler.
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It's safer, more efficient, and more compact.

random night
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random night
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And it’s more efficient because of the lip. But again, that can easily be added on

frozen fiber
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Please read the posts I made. It's not about the lip. It's about the 4 tile boiler setup in that specific way that is described.

random night
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Since this apparently isn’t good enough for anyone, I’m taking away the images and tutorial.

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design removed

noble talon
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i'm using a similar idea for my self powered sour gas well

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Every design can still be improved little by little

random night
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It mustn’t have been good enough. Thanks for your opinion.

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I’ll stick to proper designs, like your petroleum well. Seems good enough to me