How did you enjoy Daredevil: Born Again 2x08?

[tender rose]

It was just peak lads

you could argue about fisk getting away but it was still too good

[surreal nimbus]

The finale was by far the best episode of the series, from both seasons

[wooden drum]

The finale was so beautiful I loved it literally so amazingly done.

[hybrid lotus]

Miss click

I thought it was great, it seems like the defenders are slowly coming back

[plush sandal]

Wait what

[ionic condor]

True mate

[shy violet]

my heart was genuinely racing and i was physically shaking the entire time, it was SUCH a good episode i genuinely couldnt even

like the cinematography tooo??? let alone everything else

that shot with dex going after the poser

literally incredible

[snow meadow]

up there with the s3 finale imo, def not above but definitely somewhere up there

[copper flame]

BOO!

[round wren]

I want the defenders to come back. Which I’m glad they might be

[turbid ingot]

Bc it was cinema

Wish they put 7 and 8 in theaters. Same for punisher next week

[remote wedge]

It was the definition of hype moments and aura with the writing and solutions characters found not actually being something that would be viable

But it was Daredevil, my favorite superhero. With Jess ||and Luke cameo|| so I was happy watching it and seeing them

[worn dock]

100% good

[civic briar]

i'm so glad they got back on track, s1 of BA was absolute garbage and s2 was MILES better

this finale is def up there with the og show finales

[teal zephyr]

Who tf said it was mediocre

[junior folio]

The parallels of heaven and hell and the cinematography and pacing were amazing

[cold rose]

wrapped the story up really nicely, not really any filler to it, good ending, yeah really solid.

[cold rose]

i’d say it’s more viable than not

if this wasn’t america then yes i’d agree

[remote wedge]

None of what happened would stand in court lmao

They would not trust the words of a vigilante who also happens to be the opposing lawyer

[cold rose]

Oh i thought you meant the overthrowing stuff

honestly for that

depends on the jury

some juries are fucking stupid or easily led, some will believe anything, some are fairly smart.

and so are some american judges

[remote wedge]

Also Fisk does stuff that like a normal person shouldn’t be able to do

I know it’s comics and they powered everyone up from the Netflix show but I don’t think his punches should be sending full grown people flying like some anime

[cold rose]

i mean yeah they would

he’s insanely powerful in the comics

he’s not a normal person

[remote wedge]

This court also didn’t have a jury which would also not happen in something like this

[cold rose]

did it not? i swear it did

idk who all those ppl were who weren’t the task force

[remote wedge]

He is
But in comics it’s fine

But in the shows that aim to make it a little more realistic- it’s definitely off

[remote wedge]

They literally said this court has no jury to appeal to

[remote wedge]

The news/media

[cold rose]

oh right

[remote wedge]

People are also allowed to sit and watch court cases without actually being involved in it

[cold rose]

i don’t think his portrayal isn’t realistic in the world of the mcu

[remote wedge]

That’s why what’s his name was there

The retired detective

[cold rose]

it’s entirely on par with mcu stuff

[remote wedge]

It’s a nitpick on my part but I just think it’s weird seeing a supposedly normal guy punch people once and they flip, or crush their heads in their palms

[remote wedge]

Eh
Idk about that

[cold rose]

but fisk isn’t really a normal guy

he was never really portrayed as that

[remote wedge]

Also which part do you mean?

I feel like this show overall has had quite a few overthrow’s

Also are spoilers allowed in here? I’ve been trying to be careful

[cold rose]

how easily they overthrew fisk

[feral hornet]

i think the aesthetic of BA is fucking awesome and underrated

[cold rose]

i mean that made sense to me

[feral hornet]

i like the foggy and dreamy look

[cold rose]

yeah they would be because this is a chat about the final episode

[remote wedge]

He literally is

He’s not a mutant. He wasn’t bitten by a radioactive barbell. He is fully a normal person. He’s just supposed to be a normal guy that is like peak human strength, which in comic books is more but he shouldn’t be doing Captain America super soldier stuff in the show imo

Again tho this part is just a nitpick for me

[remote wedge]

Oh yeah
The power of a crowd is huge I can definitely see this as reasonable

[remote wedge]

I do think it’s cool

The brand new day trailer is the first thing I saw that actually made something FEEL like New York City. DDBA is close to that with its filming

Also the score is really good

And ngl, I like MCU Bullseye more than comic Bullseye

[cold rose]

yeah that and they have some policy in america which where if the actual government thinks he’s gone too far, they can step in and overthrow him.

[remote wedge]

Fair
And cool cause I like to talk about all the stuff

[cold rose]

also i could’ve sworn he took the serum

yeah maybe that is a bit unrealistic then

i thought he was a super solider tbh

[remote wedge]

Yeah

Plus he did have legal pressure on him after the court and all the reveals (assuming they stand which in the MCU universe they do)

[cold rose]

yeaah exactly

[cold rose]

ofc they haven’t done it with trump because the government are elected in his favor, but if they weren’t… he’d be out

whereas in the uk i don’t think it’s as easy to overthrow a government

[remote wedge]

Oh nonono he’s just a dude

A really big dude that would probably one hit ko smaller people but still just a dude

[cold rose]

they have no confidence votes but that’s hardly ever enacted

[cold rose]

yeah makes sense

[remote wedge]

Have you seen the og Netflix show?

[cold rose]

yes i just thought it was entirely different to his mcu depiction

so i thought he took some of the serum in between which is how he healed or smth

[remote wedge]

All the Netflix stuff is canon now

[cold rose]

yeaah i see it as 2 different shows still

i don’t think they’ve continued it well enough or consistently enough

[remote wedge]

I mean they are but Netflix dd events are all canon to everything within the MCU timeline

[cold rose]

but they’ve done okay

[remote wedge]

I agree on a personal level

I was kinda sad we never got to see Jess and the other defenders react to Matt being alive after the end of defenders

[cold rose]

yeaah there wasn’t any conversation between him and jess that felt satisfying

after seeing him for so long

i thought they’d have an actual conversation quite early on in the series but they sort of just threw her in by the 3rd to last episode and had a fight scene after a brief conversation

[remote wedge]

On the other hand I do like the idea that this dd feels very lived in and that he has had a lot of past

It’s mostly just a huge middle chunk that’s missing after the Netflix shows tho

[remote wedge]

Yeah I don’t think it was done to the best it could’ve been

A lot of this show to me just feels like hype moments and aura when the old Netflix show had absolute peak writing

[cold rose]

i feel like they could’ve done a much better job with the character stuff but it does have a few good moments, i hope now they can start writing in some really awesome scenes

but i don’t think they will unfortunately

i’m worried every dialogue scene is gonna be followed by flashbacks or a fight scene

and it won’t have the merit to stand on its own

because that’s the sort of problem this season has got

[remote wedge]

I do hope that season 3 has a lot more focus on Matt cause he didn’t have much in this season

It was a lot of side character stuff

[cold rose]

daredevil and bullseye talking was interlaced between a flashback sequence which is rlly odd

[remote wedge]

Albeit I absolutely love all the Bullseye stuff they’ve done

[cold rose]

i didn’t love the side character stuff either which took away a lot from it for me

i liked some of bullseye stuff, i liked the scene with matthew lillard and jessica jones

[remote wedge]

I’d like to see a Bullseye special or someth

[cold rose]

yeah i’d like to have a more in depth exploration into bullseye

like they’re doing for punisher

[remote wedge]

The only problem with MCU Bullseye is his main focus is Fisk and it needs to be swapped onto Matt

[cold rose]

i imagine it’ll be swapped onto val

or the dodc

[remote wedge]

In the comics DD is the one guy that Bullseye hates THE MOST and he is always trying to ruin his life

[cold rose]

ohh cool

[remote wedge]

He actually kills Karen in the comics, as well as Elektra but Elektra’s death is a lot more popular

And Elektra also comes back to life

[cold rose]

aaah right

i really wanna see him in a thunderbolts type team also

i hope the sequel to it is where they actually try to kill valentina

that would be so fun

[remote wedge]

I always thought a neat villain for a Defenders s2 or anything like that would be Purple Man if he wasn’t dead after JJs1

It would also give Matt the opportunity to fight one of his older foes too

[remote wedge]

I’m curious if they’ll be like a whole second line up of Thunderbolts that’s more accurate to what the thunderbolts are while the New Avengers turn into- well- the New Avengers

And maybe they’ll butt heads

Abomination tho was kinda… messed up…

[cold rose]

yeaah i’d quite like to see yelena swap if that happens

[shadow python]

I LIKED IT

HELL I LOVED IT

[copper flame]

give me more Zemo

[remote wedge]

I would also love more Zemo

[copper flame]

I think Bruhl could really convincingly do a Citizen V thunderbolts team

itd also play nicely into how this Zemo is a master of deception

the MCU version specifically

[remote wedge]

Zemo in general, com is or not, is super fun because he’s super strategic

I love strategic villains

[buoyant pond]

I think IGN had it right, 7/10

[thorn pumice]

Peak

[civic briar]

I didn't know other Zemo fans existed

[faint perch]

The season finale was incredible. It was insane. It was mind blowing. It showed how people were rising up against him, but at the very end, they all knew the truth about fighting for the true justice, but it is sad that Matthew went to jail.

[copper flame]

of course we do

[floral totem]

The reveal was super unexpected 🤯

[meager echo]

Because i chosse

[cold rose]

yeah same

make a movie so much more interesting

this is why i like civil war so much more than winter soldier

but from a visual perspective winter solider is better i think

but the dynamics just make civil war so much more interesting to me

it’s probably the best russo film

followed by winter solider imo