#Did One World Under Doom live up to your expectations?

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nocturne novaBOT
toxic river
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You can tell that Ryan North didnt want to write the event, he even ignored it in his own F4 run

wraith wyvern
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It absolutely lived up to my expectations of it being bad

tranquil locust
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Yeeeaahhhh…. Not at all for me

rose bronze
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There's enough glaze in this here event to potentially make a donut blush 😆

silver moth
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I didn't expect much, so yeah it did

tranquil locust
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I in general have been disliking events a lot recently

Bloodhunt was the only event I can think of somewhat recently that I liked

silver moth
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It did not live up tomy hopes

tranquil locust
earnest trellis
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I mean, it did, but don't take that as a positive.

silver moth
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I hated that all the heroes were stupid

cerulean pagoda
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Idk why

glacial trail
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I did like it but it’s far from the best

drifting shell
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Idk anything abt this

glacial trail
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It felt small in scale imo

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Not enough stakes

vestal hull
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I enjoyed it, but hated the "oh, doom has a baby blender" type scheme

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it was a really good arc

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like

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i feel like his latverian citizens and Valeria are his only lines

brazen moat
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It was an Arc that Happened. That's all I can say tbh.
It had potential.

But it wasn't utilised effectively. And Ended too Quickly, for what it wanted to be.

vestal hull
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I also hated that reed learned magic

brazen moat
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Doom was Too OOC in the Latvaria Citizen stuff. Like 'Greater Good' of Humankind at Latvarian Expenses?
That's a Hell NO from Doom

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Not a 'Maybe?' let alone him actually actively doing it.

vestal hull
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it wouldve made sense if the think tank from the red hulk arc was the big twist to the world

brazen moat
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The Magic Side of things was too Under Utilised for it to have all started with the Title of SORCERER Supreme

vestal hull
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eh

brazen moat
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It was just a Gimmick, not a Actual Plot point

vestal hull
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it was less spells

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and more green lantern type shit

brazen moat
vestal hull
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i wish there was more him using actual spells like in the video games

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like

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cmon

brazen moat
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But There is More to a Sorcerer Supreme.
Like we discussed Power Boost. Yes. And also a bit of Responsibility (if Many deaths of Spider-Man Tie in was to be Noted)

But all other aspects were ignored.

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Doom Dormammu fight was cool.
But they forgot Dormammu isn't the Only One gunning for the Planet or Realm. 🥲

vestal hull
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but i do agree with him using the spells to make a absolute point cuz hed be smart to know that and Doom outsmarting Dormammu

vestal hull
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for the hype it had

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it shouldve been longer

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it shouldve ended with him still in control or something like that

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like when kingpin ran for mayor in nyc

brazen moat
# vestal hull but i do agree with him using the spells to make a absolute point cuz hed be sma...

Yeah. But When you have a Pantheon of Magic Users.
Having a Explicitly Stated 'You aren't able to use magic as you try to understand it and Tame it, make it do your bidding, when Magic is too vast for that' For Many years since Reed and Stephen know each other.

And sidelining all the available characters for a Magic Reed Doom Showdown, while epic in 'what if' notes, isn't a Great Concept

vestal hull
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i hated the reed vs doom fight

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that was so stupid

brazen moat
# vestal hull like when kingpin ran for mayor in nyc

Yeah Agreed.

Like For all it was, a Second of the Entire History.

It would have worked if Doom wasn't so so invested with OOC Methods. If you wanted to keep it Short.

Like Doom is SMART, he knows Reed and Crew can Dig out his Secret.

And he didn't have a Contingency?

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Like what?

vestal hull
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yeah

brazen moat
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Doom. The Emperor? Would Go down a Debate. KNOWING His Opponents would only come AFTER digging his dirt.

Had no plans to counter?

vestal hull
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yeah

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his only counter was a in the moment he pulls out a trump card that somehow kills his goddaughter

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like gng

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hes the more valid contigency plan for contigency plan batman type shit

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and youre telling me

brazen moat
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The Person who was Adored by Latvarians, BECAUSE for all Instances and Purposes, he Would Protect Latvaria over the Fucking Universe.

We KNOW this, if anyone knows anything about Zomibe Runs and Other Events.

HE would Torture Latvarians for Peace of Rest of the World?

Are you an Idiot to think that's Justifiable given Doom's Entire Character Story through Marvel History? 💀

vestal hull
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yeah

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i hated that so fucking much

brazen moat
vestal hull
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if i had one major complaint of this series, its that

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thats like his only one out of 2 lines

brazen moat
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The Only thing I hated More than that Latvarian Gimmick the Writer's pull (probably out of the Arse 🥲) was Stephen Strange being Heavily Sidelined from the Entire Arc spanning FROM His Title 😭

vestal hull
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it makes more sense for him to blow up a universe because he's petty like that than use his citizens as a fucking battery

vestal hull
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that was stupid

brazen moat
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But the Stephen things is my Personal Bias Seeping in Over Objective Characterization

vestal hull
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they shoud've at least expanded WHY he didn't try to stop him

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like

brazen moat
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As I can see Stephen going to Hell, let alone Asgard, to get enough power to challenge doom

latent topaz
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im sad i didnt like it as much as i wanted to

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i fuckin love doom

vestal hull
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if it was some code of honor type shit

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it was a good arc dont get me wrong

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theres just a lot of flaws

brazen moat
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But it's Writers Responsibility to atleast make Stephen be back in the Loop when all of it was being decided

latent topaz
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i LIKED it but i dont love it

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vestal hull
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modern doom feels crazy

latent topaz
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sigh

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it also didnt end how i expected

vestal hull
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going over a doom thing

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i compare it to triumphs and torment

latent topaz
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im assuming this is good for spoilers

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in here

brazen moat
# latent topaz i LIKED it but i dont love it

For me personally.
It has good moments.

The Doom Dormammu fight.
The Doom Heroes fight (san the Decapitation of Children)
And the Doom deligation of Responsibility to Spiderman for Cyttorak Deal.

All Doctor Doom coded stuff.

But the Debate. And the 'Gotcha Latvarian Battery cell' soured the entire Arc for me

latent topaz
brazen moat
latent topaz
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i agree

vestal hull
latent topaz
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the doom dormammu fight had me stressing while i was reading it in class 😭

vestal hull
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i reread triumphs and torment and then read that dr doom arc

brazen moat
vestal hull
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that fight was the fucking carry of the series

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i wish he used more actual magic

latent topaz
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i thought doom was gonna sacrifice the mantle for valeria

vestal hull
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he just sacrificed a lot more

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i did enjoy the end fight and the final issue

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i hated the debate to reed taking hank's title only to get folded by doom

brazen moat
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vestal hull
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i didn't expect that shit

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like at ALL

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that did get me hooked back on it

brazen moat
# vestal hull it did get me back when i saw valeria die

That Ending had me guessing yes. But by then I was already so over it that I couldn't care less (other than the Safety of Reeds Daughter tbh.)

The Arc or the Character Stories could have gone to trash for all I care at that point 😭

vestal hull
# brazen moat Ikr.

that segment and doom using green lantern powers/fucking green flame blade instead of more actual spells were my only 2 issues

vestal hull
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it went from like 95% down to 42% in 2 fucking issues

brazen moat
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But as if the Editorial had been wanting to Kick a Puppy while it was already on the death bed.

That they gave Orlando the Sorcerer Supreme Series to write.... And the less said the Better as of now. (I already ranted in Comics spoiler)😭

vestal hull
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oh yeah

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they gave that shit to wanda instead of back to fucking strange

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yknow

brazen moat
brazen moat
vestal hull
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like

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get creative

brazen moat
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What the Issue had In ADDITION to the Title Exchanging Hands.

vestal hull
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its fucking magic

brazen moat
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Was the Problem

vestal hull
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i didnt care about wanda having the mantel that much

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but it should be a short series

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now dont get me wrong

brazen moat
vestal hull
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one world under doom was so much better than civil war 2

brazen moat
vestal hull
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1 i think

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i fucking forget

brazen moat
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That's like saying.
Secret Invasion was atleast Better than She Hulk.

vestal hull
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hes made a couple emergency ones i think

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honestly, for a baller ending to a baller seires like blood hunt, this was a slight letdown

vestal hull
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carol fighting more super heroes than villians rn gng ;-;

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she punched doom in this arc less than she punched tony in civil war 2

brazen moat
# vestal hull i fucking forget

Yup. 1

Sanctum Sanctorum is a Ordinary House Stephen brought, after coming back to US after learning from Ancient One (and before he was passed the Mantle of Sorcerer Supreme, and only had gone by the Master of Black Magic title.)

It is HIS House.

And Since the Loki fiasco, it's somehow The Seat of Sorcerer Supreme, and Any Sorcerer Supreme now seems to think they own it.(But that's not even the main problem with the Orlando it seems.)

Because that Man seems to think There are THREE Sanctum Sanctorum, one in NYC, one in London and One in Hongkong.

Yup. Bro did research by watching MCU for knowing 616 Magic'

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When I read those lines. I closed the issue.
I was DONE

vestal hull
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i know its only one

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but esensially a couple emergency bunkers

brazen moat
vestal hull
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in civil war 1, so many pepole were pissed at tony

brazen moat
# vestal hull but esensially a couple emergency bunkers

Yeah Bunkers

Stephen has like 3 Places in 616.
His Sanctum Sanctorum
Strange Academy
And Kamar Taj

That's all there aren't 3 Sanctum Sanctorum made by Agamotto or something, like MCU established.

There is only 1 Sanctum. It's Stephen's House because He Brought it.
And it's Sanctum Sanctorum BECAUSE HE lives it in. Not the other way around 🥲

vestal hull
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yeah

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thats his home

brazen moat
vestal hull
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anyways back to OWUD

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they talked about doom making the world a better place

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and they touched base a bit, but they should've shown more of the biggest thing

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Doom being the fucking sorcerer supreme

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that concept alone shouldve been fucking terrifying

brazen moat
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I don't know why they didn't go that way

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Like Punisher is there.
THOR is a Big name, which even the Story hinted at.

vestal hull
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because not only is it a HUGE power boost, its the most creative and gives the most authority from that title

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yeah

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thor shouldve turned sides

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he and stark duking would be cool

brazen moat
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These are characters who would say If it works. And Nothing Directly is Bad... Than why are we even opposing it?

vestal hull
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like Punisher, Thor and hell, i think seeing Mr. Fantastic side with doom wouldve been fucking sick

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but my opinion still stands

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the concept of doom being the sorcerer supreme

brazen moat
# vestal hull that concept alone shouldve been fucking terrifying

...... Just think of Doom become something like a Dormammu character himself.
The LORD of the Realm.
Not just the Planet.

Sorcerer Supreme is of the Entire Realm

Give or take on defination/Story Title/Writer.
It's either the Entire Universe. Or the Local Cluster (of Galaxies) at Least.

Just think of Doom at THAT Level.
Because Damn Yeah, Doom has 'legal' Jurisdiction over it all

vestal hull
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yeah

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thats not just earth

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the entiere fucking universe

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he became the highest magical authority

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he couldve lived up to that one universe

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and i feel like sorcerer supreme is the most creative and fluid power boost possible

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hell

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doom ruling asgard wouldve been a cool side arc

brazen moat
# vestal hull the entiere fucking universe

Ikr.
Just think of Doom Walking in To Shi'ar Royal Court or the Galactic Summit or something

With 'Previous Sorcerer Supreme didn't seem to take Physical Political Structures into account, or care for them, so you had free reign.
But now, let's me make it clear. I'm Incharge' or something like this attitude

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brazen moat
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Bro being a UNIVERSAL Threat. Because that's the Fucking Post makes him

brazen moat
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He said so during the Dormammu event

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Also the Cyttorak stuff with Spider-Man

vestal hull
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he was that powerful

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that shouldve been a scary concept

brazen moat
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That's the Peak he could think of 😭

vestal hull
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i could either start erasing realities or i could use the

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Punch dimension^TM

brazen moat
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The Man with the Power to Go Toe to Toe with Pre Retcon Beyonder. (Because Beyonder said so about Stephen), was Tweedling on a Fucking Planet and Still Lost

vestal hull
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bro could have gone toe to toe with strange normally

brazen moat
# vestal hull *Punch dimension^TM*

Just think.
2 Pages.
One Panel.
Of Dormammu, Mephisto, Satannish, Shuma-Gorath, Nightmare, And few other HellLords.
Pointing blame and Insults at each other but still discussing the 'Doom Problem' Strange Left them

And just the Next was Leaders of Shi'ar Empire, Kree-Skrull Empire, Nova Corp (atleast whatever left of em), Wakandian Intergalactic Empire, and Other Galactic Powers.
All discussing the 'Doom Problem' themselves.

All worried and Annoyed and Helpless, because of Doom sending ultimatum left and right.

Because that's what Doom Does.

vestal hull
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that shouldve been how it went

vestal hull
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i do like the inhumans new role in the marvel universe

brazen moat
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Was just focusing of Marvel Magic.
But with how stuff is right now.
Until McKay or someone comes yet again as the Saviour of Marvel Magic Editorial.

I'd be so done with it too.

Last Bastian of Hope is Stephen coming back to Earth as soon as possible

vestal hull
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yea

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honestly

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i want a vibranium armored doom

little quest
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I think for me

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They compared it to Dark Reign, and I kinda felt that they gave it a good attempt

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But the effectiveness of Dark Reign was that it set a new status quo that all the existing ongoings had to work within

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And you could feel that

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Whereas One World Under Doom just achieved this by making new miniseries tie-ins

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While all the existing ongoings had one or two issues addressing OWUD and then going back to their regular programming with little to no repurcussions

split oar
violet mirage
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I was too hyped when i heard north was doing a doom event since north writes a great doom in his f4. The event was lackluster though

vestal hull
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it was a B+ series

lofty portal
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ok

rustic orbit
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Ur welcome

grand hare
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