Best character overall (Human Torch vs Mr Fantastic)

[coarse kelp]

I will just say

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[gaunt lake]

good point

[coarse kelp]

Reed no diff

[crystal kite]

Very great point

[serene spindle]

brooo

idkkk

[frosty siren]

REED

[tribal hearth]

idk i just think johnnys very charming

[coarse kelp]

HOW IS TORCH WINNING

[solar wren]

Torch is a hero and all but he's s terrible person

[coarse kelp]

That's not the topic of the vote

[viral pewter]

Don’t tell me how to kill the sexy alien

[urban fog]

This doesn't rlly matter much since I'm doing this poll to know who comes in third

[tribal hearth]

I thought it was who we liked better?

[urban fog]

Tomorrow will be finals

[vocal compass]

Never forget about when Reed was dating sue and they had a huge age gap in the comics

[coarse kelp]

Who's the better written character

It's not a popularity vote

[plush rock]

This is hard

[solar wren]

Whoever votes for him is not looking at the character, just the face

[mighty saffron]

Woah, loads of people voted Johnny at first.

[solar wren]

And?

[solar wren]

Was he dating a minor?

[tribal hearth]

Ohh sorry about that, misunderstood it completely

[flint night]

Even though i like Johnny more, Reed is a much better character overall.

[coarse kelp]

No no no no

HELL NO

THAT WAS FUCKING BYRNE

[obtuse otter]

i love both of them 😭 but i think reed’s character is a little more deep i guess???

[coarse kelp]

He made Reed a wife slapper

[vocal compass]

it was retconned so their age gap could not be so much and nothing else to say

[solar wren]

I mean was she a minor?

[coarse kelp]

The big age gap WAS the retcon

[coarse kelp]

She wasn't

[sturdy hollow]

Ngl i thought yah would think different but yah aint disappoint 😂

[mighty saffron]

WHY IS EVERYONE VOTING TORCH???

[solar wren]

If not then it's definitely not worse than Johnny sleeping with doctor doom's fiancee

[coarse kelp]

The age gap was a dumb retcon by the same writer who made Superman xenophobic who hates immigrants

[solar wren]

Bro lost the one chance to make peace with their greatest enemy because he couldn't keep it in his pants

Like wtf?

[arctic burrow]

the only part of slott's run worth keeping as canon is ben and alicia getting married

[flint night]

Hey, ik it's off Topic, but, can you send me this number 4?

[coarse kelp]

Fair but Reed cleats

[sturdy hollow]

Johnny is a asshole but at the end of the day he gon slide 💯 Its the same reason we love Tony Stark

[civic rivet]

Actually awful decision

[urban fog]

Whar

Oh

[civic rivet]

⓸

[coarse kelp]

It's practically ignored

[solar wren]

Whereas Reed would off himself if it meant a better future

[vocal compass]

⓸

[urban fog]

⓸

[solar wren]

Stupid decision

[flint night]

Thanks, chat

[civic rivet]

One more until it's fantastic

[urban fog]

My granny called she said travvy you work too hard I'm worried you forget about me

[solar wren]

Nah but still

Tony is different

[plush rock]

Ball ball ball

[coarse kelp]

Wait how wasn't Torch eliminated?

[urban fog]

This is bronze finals

To determine third place

Tomorrow will be the real finals

Sue vs Franklin

[coarse kelp]

Nevermind saw the tournament list

Great design btw

[urban fog]

Crazy work

Thanks

[mighty saffron]

Why in the nine hecks is everyone voting TORCH?

[urban fog]

FLAME ON, FUCK OFF!!!

[civic rivet]

Hides in Ben being my favorite member

[coarse kelp]

They think Reed is an emotionless moron due to Civil War

Same Civil War that made Stark a Nazi

[solar wren]

Hot guy=good character apparently

[coarse kelp]

Reed is hotter

Ask Sue about it

[solar wren]

He's not a playboy tho

[mighty saffron]

Thats just weird-

[solar wren]

Reed "any size you want" Richards

[solar wren]

Well people are weird

[elfin bloom]

i love mr fantastic but i have to say johnny

[solar wren]

Why?

[mighty saffron]

WHAT???

[elfin bloom]

i dknt even know 😕

[civic rivet]

Is this like when people like the injustice Or Snyderverse version of a character in dc?

[solar wren]

Johnny is a good hero, but a terrible person

[elfin bloom]

IM SORRY

[dark wave]

So if we guess top 3 we still get the role or if we guess first place?

[mighty saffron]

I AGREE

[languid shuttle]

no

[elfin bloom]

johnnys very cool and a great hero, just not the best person. at all

[dark wave]

OMG ADO PFP

[urban fog]

Just first place

[dark wave]

ah

[urban fog]

I just wanna edge yall

[solar wren]

Hai

[dark wave]

Mama how could you 🙁

[solar wren]

Elaborate

[languid shuttle]

nah

[urban fog]

The suspense is real

[languid shuttle]

i dont really feel like it

[solar wren]

Because you can't

[solar wren]

Wrong tag

[solar wren]

Shore buddy

This is a discussion

If you won't discuss

[urban fog]

Reed getting eliminated a 2nd time will never not be funny to me

[solar wren]

Get your arse out of here

[urban fog]

Then why are you in the discussion thread 😭

[coarse kelp]

This panel alone invalidates any bullshit Torch votes

[mighty saffron]

Why are you here??

[urban fog]

Mr Fantasticly stretchy dih

[languid shuttle]

idk

i was bored

[civic rivet]

Fantastic This Dih

[mighty saffron]

That's really weird-

[solar wren]

If you can't back up your opinion then keep it to yourself

[solar wren]

Context?

[final rune]

Fantastic Four #26 by Ryan North

would recommend checking out the whole story because it's absolutely ridiculous

[mighty saffron]

No but why are you texting that- Oh nvm.

[final rune]

(ridiculously fun)

[languid shuttle]

😢

[civic rivet]

Johnny is cool and all but can he do this?

[mighty saffron]

Dude, Why?

[languid shuttle]

🤷‍♂️

[mighty saffron]

SHRUG? Gosh darnit.

[languid shuttle]

🤷‍♂️

[mighty saffron]

I ain't continuing this talk.

[lament pollen]

good point

[languid shuttle]

🆗 👌

[sacred cypress]

This is a hard one for me

[vocal compass]

Do MR FANTASTIC

[civic rivet]

@sacred cypress

[sacred cypress]

I love both but I’m just gonna choose Mr. Fantastic

[sacred cypress]

What the fuck is that lmaooo

Jurassic World: First Steps

[mighty saffron]

Why did you text that??

[vocal compass]

have you never heard a curse word bro

[solar wren]

Hmm?

Is cursing not allowed?

[sacred cypress]

Fuckity fuck fuck fucking fuck

[civic rivet]

The Reedosaurus Rex

[vocal compass]

What the fucky

[mighty saffron]

nO, I mean the whole 'Jurassic world: first steps' Thing- i curse all the fucking time

[vocal compass]

its a play on Reed dinosour and the title of the new Fantastic Four movie

[mighty saffron]

Ah okay then

[late frigate]

Reed should win

[mighty saffron]

Nah, cos apparently people think TORCH IS BETTER-???

[late frigate]

Look at the votes

[mighty saffron]

What is with peeps today??

[timid sage]

I'm personally glad Reed didn't win He should have lost the first bracket - This message was totally not sponsored by Doctor Doom

[mighty saffron]

i did?

[mighty saffron]

Totally not-

[late frigate]

Mmh I see you behind your screen, Doom

Even me, Mole Man, is supporting Richards on that one

[timid sage]

Again I am not dr doom or a doom bot but Reed Richard is below Dr Doom in every single way and should have lost the first round

[mighty saffron]

lol

[late frigate]

Yep, def not sponsored by Doctor Doom

[timid sage]

Exactly also totally random not at all connected to anything but I've heard Latveria Is pretty nice this time... all times around the year

[mighty saffron]

lol-

[late frigate]

Subterranea is a better place ✌🏻

[timid sage]

I respect your opinion because I'm not affiliated with Dr Doom at all*

[late frigate]

Mmmh…

Suspect

[mighty saffron]

LOL-

[timid sage]

The word of not DOOM has been spoken you all shall be grateful and have a good day fellow users (soon to be Latveria Citizens) ✌️

[mighty saffron]

Yes sir- lol

[late frigate]

I am moving in Latveria, Giganto kicked me out of Subterranea

[toxic blade]

"flame on fuck off" LMAOOO

[mighty saffron]

Ehehehe!!!!! IKR??? LOL

[urban fog]

My humour is amazing

[mighty saffron]

Yes, i agree-

[toxic blade]

no because I actually started laughing out loud

[coral ridge]

Real

[mighty saffron]

Lmao-

[tough cave]

stop voting mr fantastic theres no way human torches character isnt cooler /s

😡

smart stretchy dude vs flying matchstick

[mighty saffron]

Don't Be rude, people can vote for anyone they want.

[coarse kelp]

Reed is more emotional

More respectful

Great father

Great husband

Much smarter

Better written

Savior and Engineer of the multiverse

Reed is the only being in the MULTIVERSE who managed to make Victor Von Doom JEALOUS

[mighty saffron]

I agree with you.

[tough cave]

i was trying to have a childish meaning to how it delivered it was never intended to be rude. I tried putting 😡 at the end to imply i was jesting

apologies for the delivery

i literally voted for reed lol i was trying to be sarcastic

apologies again

[mighty saffron]

Oh, okay then, Well if you are gonna be Sarcastic then put /s on the end of it, cos that means it's sarcastic.

[tough cave]

oh, i had no clue

thank u 🙏

[mighty saffron]

Yeah, if it's a joke then you put /j on the end of it to gesture that it's a joke.

[tough cave]

ohhhhh

i will keep that in mind for the future

thanks bro

[mighty saffron]

Yeah, no probs.

[tough cave]

sorry for the bad delivery ill fix it nenxt time

[mighty saffron]

Yeah, again, No probs.

[pale comet]

i genuinely thought johnny was gonna win the whole thing

[coarse kelp]

Reed is a better character overall

Sue is a better character with better rizz and powers

Franklin has better powers

There's no way Johnny was gonna survive this

[pale comet]

i think johnny has way more charisma than sue

[coarse kelp]

Not really

In fact he comes off as an asshole to most people he doesn't try to seduce

ONLY difference between Johnny and Sue is that she doesn't go around flirting with everyone

[pale comet]

true

[static jackal]

Johnny's my fav FF member, in all iterations (except 2015)

[solar wren]

People are stupid

Johnny won?

Apparently hot guy=better character

[mighty saffron]

Yeah, weird right?

[solar wren]

Fr

[heady aurora]

Yep

Chat

We should honor torchy

He's awesome

[solar wren]

He's awful

[solar wren]

Reed is a better character

Johnny is a good hero, but a terrible person

[heady aurora]

But he's HOT!

[solar wren]

He's a jerk

And Reed "any size you want" Richards is better

[heady aurora]

....

[solar wren]

What?

[heady aurora]

Sandwich

[solar wren]

?

[plush rock]

Why did it go from best powers to beat character

[urban fog]

Different criterias

[coarse kelp]

Better

That way Franklin doesn't win