Which superhero film do you think will be the most successful in 2025?

[edgy cradle]

literally not even close

[late relic]

Captain Ohio : Brave new sigmas

[pastel bane]

Yes

very sigma answer

[earnest dust]

superman is the most hopeful i've been for a new superhero movie in a minute

[versed haven]

thunderbolts all the way tbh

[edgy cradle]

these f4 cannot be serious

that movies def flopping

[jolly vapor]

Yeah, James Gunn is a pretty good choice for Superman. But then again, your competition in the last decade is Zack Snyder so.......... yeah

As for the actual Marvel movies, I don't know which I'd vote between Brave New World and First Steps

[frozen dagger]

Superman has the most potential. James Gunn has cooked on the Guardians films so Im confident that he will deliver with this...

[jolly vapor]

Because yeah, F4 has the most miss or miss run of films out of Marvel I think

[misty furnace]

nah probably x-men tbf but i get what you mean

[late relic]

Thunderthighs

[late relic]

Gyat Studios Supersigma

The Edging Four : First Gyats

[jolly vapor]

You sure? I remember X-Men getting more triumphs, but that's because of more films compared to F4's.... 4

And all 4 of those movies not getting that good of critial reception

[runic canyon]

Thunderbolts will probably the best film( if it’s done right) but f4 will be the most popular

[vivid mountain]

fr but don't forget that in the thunderbolts harisson ford will be in it

[runic canyon]

I’m really excited

[vivid mountain]

same

when it's on scene?

[runic canyon]

Huh?

[vivid mountain]

when it's the movie at cinema?

[runic canyon]

And cap will be a Flop . I’m calling it

[runic canyon]

When is it at the theaters ?

[vivid mountain]

Tbh I watched the trailer and it's not good

[runic canyon]

Is that what you’re trying to say ?

[vivid mountain]

cienma

[runic canyon]

Uhhh?

[vivid mountain]

at the movies

[runic canyon]

Yes . That’s …. The theater . And uhhh I’d have to check

It’s scheduled for may 2 , 2025

[vivid mountain]

k thx

[dawn hare]

I think f4 will be the most successful

[night island]

Heyyy! This is my poll!

[dawn hare]

Neat

[night island]

I’m just seeing this rn

My personal vote goes to Superman

[cloud gazelle]

Guys Sentry or Superman?

[dawn hare]

I think Superman will be the second most, I think captian America will be the next most, and I think thunderbolts will be the least successful but I don’t think it will flop.

[night island]

[dawn hare]

I think Superman and f4 will most likely reach 1B

[mental plover]

Same

[dawn hare]

I think captain America has a decent chance

And thunderbolts I don’t think will reach a billion

[night island]

For Superman’s sake, I hope they Barbenheimer or Moaned us.

[night island]

I think the big players really are Superman and Fantastic Four. I don’t see Brave New World or Thunderbolts* cracking a billion, but am open to them at least having some success

[cloud gazelle]

Even I do because only real marvel fans see it , because captain america is more famous so imo he would be on top next is Superman alongside first steps

[night island]

It feels weird that I’m talking in a poll that I made, when I already have my personal stance. But yeah, still interested in hearing what everyone else at least in this server thinks

[night island]

Yeah, but it’s Sam Wilson’s Captain America. Not to shade his Captain America, I definitely do like him but even if it’s Captain America. I wonder how much of people will be excited for a Captain America movie without Steve Rogers? It’s also releasing in February, not in the summers or the holidays like the rest of the ones here

[wild forum]

Its mostly either f4 or super man I'm hyped for all of these marvel movies so I'm def tryna see all of em

[night island]

Also if it we’re the Captain America everyone’s familiar with. Are we sure he’d be considered bigger than Superman or the Fantastic Four?

[night island]

I’m gonna see all of them, just to see how each one turns out 👍

[wild forum]

Yeah I'm hyped

I got low expectations for thunderbolts tho

[night island]

Same here

Those costume ain’t it, chief

[wild forum]

They pretty bland

[night island]

Yes. I’d add on ugly too imo

[wild forum]

Should've added some light yellow hence the name thunderbolts ig

[dawn hare]

Thunderbolts missed the opportunity to add punisher to the movie

[silk glade]

Superman’s like the most popular superhero ever n shit

[pastel bane]

I'd still take Batman over him anyday.

[silk glade]

same

Batman’s prob my favorite superhero in general

[pastel bane]

Batman's in my top twenty five, probably twenty one.

Anyway, I think F4 will succeed and if it doesn't, of those four I think Superman has a good chance at being genuinely good.

As much as I dislike F4.

[silk glade]

James Gunn is directing it so its kinda a given

[wild forum]

Agreed

Im just a bit anxious about how the f4 movie gonna be, with f4's live action attempts

[night island]

Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man are the big three that’s said a lot

[wild forum]

And i don't really like human torches actor

[wild forum]

He doesn't seem Johnny storm ish

[pastel bane]

I'd still take Wolverine over all three, but only over Spider-Man by a hair.

[silk glade]

saying that at this point is equivelant to saying that 60 minutes is an hour

its super obvious

[pastel bane]

I just hope they explain how F4 are set in the 60s, unless this is more retcon stuff.

[fair pilot]

superman's the biggest superhero

[night island]

60 minutes is an hour

[silk glade]

F4 being introduced this late into the MCU is crazy

especially since the MCU is terrible now

[night island]

In fairness, before it would’ve been rights issues that prevented that

Same with the X-Men

[silk glade]

I don’t have high hopes for any of the upcoming MCU movies

[pastel bane]

I only have hope for the upcoming X-Men film, but that'll be after Secret Wars, if it's not canned before then.

[silk glade]

the first sign that Doomsday and Secret Wars will probably be mid is Marvel paying RDJ like 100 million dollars to play Doctor Doom

they do that so people will watch the movies because they themselves know the movies wont be good

[warm marsh]

F4 sweep

[carmine nimbus]

That’s like, not true at all?

[silk glade]

atleast how I see it

[carmine nimbus]

My issue with that is you can’t really say something will suck just with pure speculation.
We do not know much about the next two avengers movies, what their stories like, and how they’ll work.

[pastel bane]

Captain America 4 is said to have bad results of screen test.
I think Thunderbolts bolts will be okay-ish as it is grounded except sentry stuff.
As a marvel fan ,i will not think of superman movie to be famous much.

And fantastic four has a good plot and better story,cast,action and whatever i want

Even then going into MCU

[mint cradle]

Fantastic four has been hyped so much, so yeah

[sturdy sky]

Yelena y Bucky

[carmine nimbus]

Not sure I’ll enjoy captain America 4.
Thunderbolts looks pretty cool so far
Superman I think will be really fun
& F4 I am pretty excited about.

[gentle prairie]

Superman is the biggest Superhero of all time

Every Superman movie has been successful, even the bad ones

People have a bad taste of the F4 due to the earlier movies, Cap 4 will be bad, though Thunderbolts could be good

It has a meh cast though

[carmine nimbus]

Which movie?

The one with the “meh” casting?

[gentle prairie]

What?

[carmine nimbus]

What movie are you referring to?

[gentle prairie]

Thunderbolts

[carmine nimbus]

Alright, just curious.

[gentle prairie]

Four Cap rip offs

A Nat rip off

And Ghost

Alexi and Taskmaster have a bad track record

Yelana and Bucky are popular, even though they usually have bad writing

So they might attract people to the movie

Ghost is a bad choice, nobody liked Ant Man 2

[carmine nimbus]

Crazy. Nobody at all…nope not even a mouse 🫤

[gentle prairie]

Mickey himself came down and told me he didn't like Ant Man 2

[carmine nimbus]

That so? Too bad Mickey is a fictional character, buddy

[edgy cradle]

basically john walker carries

[gentle prairie]

It's sarcasm, and I'm not your "buddy"

[edgy cradle]

LOLL

[gentle prairie]

Yeah

[edgy cradle]

ant man 2 is like the worst mcu movie ever

only thing i liked is one certain joke

[carmine nimbus]

No shit, genius

[carmine nimbus]

I thought it was fine, but that was probably because the dude from the fallout show played a character.

[craggy token]

I'd bet $200 on Fantastic 4

[edgy cradle]

ok

i'll collect that $200 in a few months

[west plaza]

glad that people are in agreeance that the new cap film will be shit

[edgy cradle]

i think it will be good

[craggy token]

The issue is that I'd actually need a way to guarantee that I'd win money if it were, plus I think that'd be against some sort of rule lol

[carmine nimbus]

There’s a chance it will be good. But it’s one I’m particularly not excited for

[edgy cradle]

[craggy token]

The general population simply does not care about Superman anymore

[edgy cradle]

thats cap

[craggy token]

If it were Batman it'd earn like 3x as much

[carmine nimbus]

I do not think that’s true

[gentle prairie]

Yeah, it isn't

[craggy token]

The people want X-Men now. Superman is too basic for most superhero enjoyers now

[gentle prairie]

Superman isn't basic

[carmine nimbus]

Again, not true

[craggy token]

It is, DC's strategy with Superman is fake it till you make it

[gentle prairie]

People do want X-Men, but Superman is still the most popular superhero of all time

[craggy token]

Trust

[west plaza]

superman is not basic, i blame snyder for this viewpoint being popular

[gentle prairie]

I blame people not reading comics

Superman is one of the most interesting properties DC has

[craggy token]

The illegal immigrant thing is the only interesting part of his character.

[gentle prairie]

As if the racism allegory isn't the only interesting part of the X-Mens identity

At least Superman branches out

[gentle prairie]

The X-Men have been doing the same allegory (horribly, may I add) since the 70s

[craggy token]

Movie will make like $1B. $400M coming from the hype train that is the start of the reboot

[carmine nimbus]

Not everyone will read comics, sad but true. If anything they’ll rather read books than comics cause they’re more “intellectual” (but that isn’t the point.)

You’re going to need to adapt the character in a movie show for people to get the character

[craggy token]

F4 gonna do $1.5B

Trust

[gentle prairie]

F4 won't do that much

[carmine nimbus]

Again, what’s with the assumptions

Too much “this will do bad” or “this will sweep”

[gentle prairie]

The general population dislikes them more than they do Superman after the horrible movies, Superman had some good movies + he's in one of the most popular Superhero TV shows of all time

With Gunn at the helm, people trust DC more than they did before

[craggy token]

Ok remind me to bring it up again in August next year

[carmine nimbus]

Those movies are pretty old. I don’t think they’ll change much of people’s POV

I mean yeah there’s fan4stic but that’s like 10 years ago

[west plaza]

[gentle prairie]

Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer, and Fan4stic are all horrible and have left such a bad impression on people it affected comic sales

[west plaza]

watch superman vs the elite

[gentle prairie]

Plus the horrible portrayal of Reed in MoM

And the fact that their comics are only now coming back into popularity

[craggy token]

People want Spider-Man, Batman, and the X-Men nowadays

[gentle prairie]

Then compare it to Superman, who has had great movies, except for three (BvS, MoS, and Justice League) has had amazing movies, amazing comics, and amazing animated shows

He also had one of the most popular recent Live Action shows

[carmine nimbus]

Wow, I will admit I have not heard of that part. That is extremely unfortunate, I read some of their comics and I thought they were extremely awesome.
But why are they so hard to adapt in non comics?

[gentle prairie]

And even looking at the three bad movies, people love Man of Steel

People trust Superman more than the F4

[gentle prairie]

Probably because they didn't put enough thought into the writing

[craggy token]

My b I forgot the part where he left Lois Lane in space. That one was pretty interesting

[carmine nimbus]

I’d like to ask one thing.
you seem like a “comic connoisseur” and I was curious if you have any recommendations for both Superman and Fantastic four?

[gentle prairie]

Norths F4 run is amazing, and I've really enjoyed Tomasi's Superman run

[craggy token]

#general message
This was also me btw so don't be surprised about my hating

I genuinely do believe that F4 will do that much better though

[west plaza]

unfortunately f4 will do well despite it probably being crap

[craggy token]

Oh I absolutely agree that the Superman movie will be more critically acclaimed

[orchid oxide]

I know its gonna be FF or Superman, but Thunderbolts is my most hyped.

[craggy token]

Same tbh

[hexed ingot]

weather or not Disney can restrain itself from politicizing the Ad campaign for Fantastic 4 with be the determining factor of weather or not it beats the Superman movie at the box office.

[hexed ingot]

Why. The trailers suck.

[orchid oxide]

Bucky. Yelena. Need I say more.

That is all I need to know.

[hexed ingot]

You're excited for 2nd string Black Widow? 🤨

[orchid oxide]

We love and respect Yelena in this household.

[hexed ingot]

Almost nothing happens in the trailers.

The closest thing we even get to seeing how the characters play off eachother is one of the posters (a still image)

It gives the impression they don't have anything of interest to show.

[orchid oxide]

Trailers don't necessarily always match up to the film. There are some great movies where the trailers were kind of meh.

But honestly I would disagree about the trailer. I thought we got some good insight about the characterizations of each character and the stage they are in at the start of the film.

I'm more happy that they aren't showing everything right off the bat so I can be surprised when I get to the theater.

[craggy token]

I'm trying to figure out where, but I remember specifically saying D&W would gross $1.3B at one point, and well...

[craggy token]

I must admit slight error. I found the post, and what I actually said was $1.1B, but I jokingly said if they cast Taylor Swift as Dazzler the Swifties would find a way to push it to $1.3B

So that is where the error comes from

[steep shard]

James Gunn is an amazing writer, I know he will do what the people want. But I just can't trust Marvel with making good adaptations anymore.

Sure, I'm excited for F4 but... It's not the same excitement I have for Superman, especially after what Snyder did to him

[craggy token]

Also I didn't get to this earlier because I was just doing a little trolling as I do, and not taking the conversation too seriously. But this is very incorrect. Yes, there's the racism allegory, but the X-Men have been used as an allegory for literally just about every real-world issue. And they usually do it pretty well

My favorite was an incredibly well-done allegory for (trigger warning I guess) ||child sex trafficking||.

[gentle prairie]

The racism allegory (that the X-Men as a group are) has not been done well since the Claremont era, which was over twenty years ago. There is an argument to be made that the modern interpretation of the X-Men are an allegory for LGBTQ people, but that is also done very horribly

The X-Men being an allegory for racism has only led to the X-Men being racist right back towards humans, with things like saying that mutants are superior and the better race, and creating multiple ethnostates

And one of their biggest civil rights leaders, Charles Xavier, is a horrible person who is a shitty example of what a civil rights leader should be

The X-Men in their existence have caused more genocides than they have been a part of

And also, most of the X-Men are bad people

Which is a very bad way to present a group of people who are oppressed

[craggy token]

Correct, me and my family joke about how awful he is at leading all the time lol

[gentle prairie]

And for the LGBTQ allegory

Almost every single big LGBTQ character on their team has done something horrible

Iceman has gone after a minor, Mystique has 🍇ed multiple people, Daken has also done what Mystique did, I could go on

That is very obviously a horrible way of portraying LGBTQ people

The X-Men as a group is a horrible allegory for things like oppression

[edgy crystal]

I think Thunderbolts will, it's bring back a lot of important side characters

[west plaza]

only one is actually a good character and theyll definitely ruin him

[hexed ingot]

Believe it or not the thing about Crossover/ team-up movies that draws audiences in isn't the recruitment process. They already did most of that in post credit teasers anyway. It's what they're going to do TOGETHER that people are paying to see.

[simple heart]

im acc surpirsed fantastic 4 is winning in the polls

Thunderbolts just seems more hype to me

[orchid oxide]

Okay? The trailer still made me hyped for that part too.

Plus there’s still more trailers to come

[craggy token]

#1282384961520799897 message
I definitely see what you mean, I also agreed with like X-Men '97, but I think you're focusing too much on the bad. A lot of the storylines have them simply trying to do good while still having to face the discrimination.

Sorry I took so long to respond, I was trying to do like 5 things at once and had to focus on other things for a while

[gentle prairie]

Yeah, but those storylines are few and far between when it comes to modern X-Men. I can't think of a good storyline involving them facing discrimination from the past ten years

[pastel bane]

Another day, another X-Men shame.

Lol.

[pastel bane]

That's why I think my focus will be set mostly from 1975 to 2005.

That's a thirty year lapse, which is a long time in comics besides being in general.

Anyway.

I think of all these movies, Superman is the only one I will watch in theaters.

[gentle prairie]

If you ever need a reading order, ask me

I have one that runs from 1975 to 1990, I can easily get that extra 15 years

[pastel bane]

Do you think it's worth it, Ducki? To go into 2005?

I mean, the only reason I left the 90s was because of me owning X-Men: The End, which goes from 2004-2006.

[gentle prairie]

Personally I'd go to 2008

That's when Whedons run ends

[pastel bane]

But then I have to read Storm with T'Challa...

[gentle prairie]

You don't have to, you can just not read the Black Panther comics from the time

[pastel bane]

Fair enough.

[pastel bane]

Should I just read up to Messiah Complex, you think?

[gentle prairie]

It's up to you, personally I would read the Messiah Complex anyways but that's your decision

[main spade]

less people know about that side of marvel so im guessing thunderbolta

[ember skiff]

Idk

[night island]

Superman didn’t choose his own movie, but Brave New World lol

[humble blade]

Don't have high hopes with Superman

But I genuinely am hyped to see how they handle Red Hulk and Leader

[dusty lynx]

prob fantastic four because its main villain is played by rdj

[west plaza]

Wrong one, your thinking the next avengers movie
The villain of the f4 movie is galactus iirc

[floral minnow]

So excited Abt thunderbolts
I'm rlly hoping it's not a flop
But it is being released May
And there's like all of my favorite characters in it (u can see why I relate to antihero by Taylor Swift so much)

Especially buckyyyyyy (pls see pfp)

I dun know anything about f4 tho anyone have any films movies shoes to watch to prep for the new movie? Or have some context 😊

[night island]

It’s a new version of Fantastic 4

You don’t really need to watch anything prior to understand

[uncut schooner]

I'd recommend watching the old films at the least. They're not too good, but it's an easy way to gain knowledge on the team's origin. Another option is the animated series. I think it might be good.

[cloud gazelle]

Anyone knows the context?

for thunderbolts

[night island]

You can watch FATWS, Black Widow, Ant-Man & The Wasp for that

Also maybe Wakanda Forever too

[pastel bane]

I didn't see anything but Ant-Man & The Wasp, honestly.