Will Franklin and Valeria be present in The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025)?

[fossil nymph]

because i think so

[broken bramble]

I feel like they're an explicitly package deal

[gritty magnet]

Idk

[burnt mortar]

yeah i dont think they would do just one

[broken bramble]

Like Tony and Rhody. There's a reason Iron Man 1 had Rhody.

Or a more popular/better example: Steve Rogers and Bucky.

[oblique meteor]

idk who these two are

[broken bramble]

Sue Storm and Reed Richards Kids

[oblique meteor]

aw

[broken bramble]

Their son and daughter respectively

[finite cobalt]

I agree 100% with this

[twilit moon]

Franklin i think is very likely but i just don't know about val.
If doom doesn't have a big role Val wont be in it

[broken bramble]

Franklin is a comedically powerful character in Marvel. He'd probably be the strongest in the verse without question in the MCU if they don't nerf him.

Valeria, meanwhile, is Reeds mental gymnastics coach

[cursive nova]

not 100% sure about valeria i don’t really know the character that well but i imagine franklin gonna play a big role

[twilit moon]

Not really Val is alot newer than franklin.
Val only became a thing due to the rise of doom as a villain again

[cursive nova]

are they twins or just siblings

[twilit moon]

I think we could see both but i think it very much depends on dooms role

[twilit moon]

Siblings

[cursive nova]

ah okie

tbf i imagine they might save valeria for a future film in that case

[twilit moon]

Technically the original verison of val is the daughter of doom and sue

[sonic parrot]

Franklin to my limited knowledge is gonna be a weird one to do since all I ever hear about him is how much of a nightmare he is to write.

Doing someone as powerful as Franklin reminds me of how Star Wars fans were in a civil war over making Starkiller canon.

The idea of a teenage dark apprentice to Vader strong enough to rival Palpatine would be such an insane task that you either nerf him in which case he's not the same character or you don't have now have to justify why he doesn't just break everything.

[molten stump]

I kinda feel like it's a bit too early to introduce them

[sonic parrot]

That's kinda how I felt about them doing both Young Avengers and Champions at the same time but they seem to be going for it.

[weak quail]

Especially weird since we only have like... 1-2/3 of the founding members of the latter, and the last one of the founding three is wrapped in a whole other bunch of legal tango.

[sonic parrot]

We have two Champions so far and the rest are YA members

Of those introduced on screen only so far, Kate, Cassie, Billy, Tommy, and Eli are all Young Avengers, America is as well but she's from the second roster, the rest are all first roster. Kamala and Riri are both Champions.

[finite cobalt]

i think NO as their presence in the movie will just change the whole plot and galactus will be easily destroyed.

and it will be too early to introduce them

[finite cobalt]

maybe show them after secret wars or at the end of the movie while creating a new mcu

[dim wing]

I’m not sure how many of you know who Mckenna Grace is but I think she’d be the perfect casting for Valeria whenever she’s introduced into the MCU!

[sonic parrot]

I think the problem is her age

I can't imagine they wanna do the kids so old already

[wise blade]

I sure hope so. I'd honestly prefer they skip to the kids being teens

[finite cobalt]

It’s already confirmed

[plain igloo]

He’ll be a kid in First Steps, and a teenager from after that and onwards

[dim wing]

What’s confirmed?

[finite cobalt]

Franklin

[rustic portal]

Because.

[wise blade]

Ugh

[plain igloo]

That’s at least what the rumors about Franklin being in the MCU say

[glacial talon]

Just no

[crude sorrel]

I watch new rock stars so ye

[vast hamlet]

Franklin is leaked and Valeria is important for the Doom buildup

[glacial prawn]

I mean they better be

[acoustic gazelle]

Probably as a toddler and baby respectively

And they get aged up for Secret Wars

[vast hamlet]

its leaked that first steps points to franklins first steps

[harsh smelt]

i believe that's only rumoured/speculated so far

[vast hamlet]

there was a plot leak that makes complete sense from the info we have

[compact sleet]

i really hope they dont make an appearance

[wise blade]

Why?

[compact sleet]

i think they should introduce them later on and focus on other things

[wise blade]

Ok. I'd prefer they skip to when the kids are teens tbh

[polar egret]

They’ll probably show up later but not yet

[plain igloo]

Why?

[wise blade]

I don't like Reed & sue

Plus I always felt their kids should be around the same age as Kamala & co.

[plain igloo]

Fair.

I personally don’t mind having some younger superheroes in the MCU

[wise blade]

I think they need more younger heroes

And I think the F4 especially needs some younger ones

[sonic parrot]

I said it before they shoulda doubled down on the Young Avengers sooner

[harsh smelt]

imo Reed and Sue are a great couple, they've just gotten a bad deal in the past while

Namely, Fant4stic and Slott FF

North's run makes the whole family incredibly endearing

Hickman's too, but in a different manner