#Should Kang be recast or scrapped entirely?

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foggy hollyBOT
earnest gorge
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recast fs

frail scarab
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kang actually has a believable reason to be recast

placid seal
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somehow kang returned

plucky kiln
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i mean
didnt he get discarded offscreen entirely?

prime crown
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Idk, i just vote yes

quiet compass
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Recast and drastically rewritten. He's been terrible since his MCU introduction.

hybrid bone
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i think a few recast

and probably some kang skeletons around dooms introduction or smth

plucky kiln
terse laurel
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recast would be best if this next arc is really all about him, but no one really cared about ant man 3 for him to be completely written off

tropic turtle
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Well, Isn't this fitting? (for my answer: He just looks cool)

earnest gorge
frail scarab
plucky kiln
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the movie was mid too man, if they do recast him
hope they do it better this time

earnest gorge
drifting light
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As of right now I think it would be best to discard him as it doesn't seem they are going to focus on Kang with the new Avengers movies rn, but perhaps later they can recast him if they have a new plot that works. Idk if it will tho, depends on how the multiverse stuff ends in Secret Wars

quiet compass
frail scarab
plucky kiln
earnest gorge
frail scarab
blazing marsh
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Recast. I was looking forward to Kang

frail scarab
earnest gorge
drifting light
modern quest
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He's too important.

plucky kiln
blazing marsh
drifting light
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If they're bringing in Dr. Doom, I feel like Kang will conflict with that (for the most part, they can still do some kind of transition thing) so at least for this saga, I think it would be best to discard

blazing marsh
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I like when Doom and Kang interact

plucky kiln
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mcu after a certain point was disappointing to me

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hope it picks back up again soon

drifting light
# plucky kiln what about the upcoming secret wars and few other films heard they were huge ban...

If they can write Secret Wars in a way that would make sense to have both Kang and Dr. Doom together, then I think they should recast but if not then I don't think it's worth it.
And by having them together I mean more than just like a transition scene from Kang to Doom as a villain bc then a recast kinda will be wasted in a way bc if they recast I would want to see him still have a major part of the story, not just passing the torch to Dr. Doom

earnest gorge
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there is no way he’s gonna have a major part in the movie

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it is gonna be a transition

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to doom

keen lark
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I’m fine with them going fully with doom bc doom is cooler

drifting light
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Yeah that's how I feel too, which is why I don't think they should recast. At least not without having a plan to still have him in the next saga

earnest gorge
hazy thicket
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Yeah idk why they didn't just recast in the first place

visual jolt
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i mean they should recast and just use him later hes a time traveler for mephistos sake

hazy thicket
drifting light
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Right now Kang is at a good place to not need a transition bc his story can be rewritten as closure with the end of Loki S2 so if they do a recast for a transition then I think that would be a waste of a recast.
I think they should only recast if they still have plans for him to be a main character

rose merlin
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I mean they was setting him up to be a decent character its a shame it all got scrapt

flat arch
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Other actors has done way worse (RDJ/ Ezra Miller and a few others) yet they were all able to come back to the screen…

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He wasn’t even guilty 💀

echo kiln
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We honestly shouldn’t let an actor ruin a character

quiet compass
earnest gorge
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just saying it would be better than the ants 😭

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but yeah I get u

quiet compass
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Kang could solo the entire old comics Avengers with no difficulty and only lost because of a slight oversight. Same with the Fantastic Four.

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He sure as hell isn't losing to socialist ants

cyan sluice
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i haven't seen the new ant man so idk what else they did but tbh they should at the very least bring back the og actor (can't remember his name) and give kang an ending of some sort, right now he just kind of disappears and it's kind of random

mossy belfry
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give us kodos 😆

placid patrol
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I think discarding Kang is a mistake.

He fits into the whole multiverse/time thing. He fits into the Young Avengers. He fits into the TVA stuff.

Sure, some of the stuff he's been involved with hasn't been as well-received, but throwing stuff away is not the answer. Fixing it and moving forward is.

placid patrol
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Drug addiction is not the same as domestic abuse man

cyan sluice
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flat arch
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flat arch
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RDJ has had a worse track record than Majors…yet he was able to play Iron Man and now DOOM??? Wowzers

keen lark
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But who knows

flat arch
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Brought him back for round 2 in the MCU 😵‍💫💀

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And correct me if I’m wrong but I think he’s the only person playing 2 different characters in the MCU, no other actor has 2 roles 😭

low frigate
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RDJ’s addiction was years before the MCU and he was a few years clean

flat arch
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A have a few others

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# low frigate MCU and DCEU are entirely different companies. I definitely don’t agree with DC ...

Different companies with similar policies and yet the law and recruitment is still the same and only one of them are making exceptions, I don’t know what you mean by worse, false accusations exist meanwhile it’s not the same for addicts whereas technology proves you’re under the influence…that’s not a comparison between he say and she say, which is all hearsay, but “worse” is subjective, both are still objectively illegal and placed on your criminal history

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And even then, it’s not only RDJ, you seek to be fixated on individualism instead of illegal politics

low frigate
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Majors is under investigation and is still walking free as we speak

flat arch
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flat arch
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Acquitted of the actual physical assault charges specifically

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flat arch
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NPR is the source

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flat arch
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  1. RDJ is a known criminal, I’m comparing current records of RDJ (currently on his background) to current records of Majors, yet there’s nitpicking
  2. Majors is not found completely guilty and was acquitted of his charges, shown in the official documents
  3. An guilty person with evidence of the crime would not and could not be walking around as a free man, false allegations exists therefore it’s unreasonable to automatically call him guilty within context, and the worse he’s being charged with is…probation? Not actual prison not jail time??? 2 and 2…
flat arch
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Or just google exactly what the “specific” charges are

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He was not found guilty of intentional assault

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Do you know that if you accidentally bump into someone it’s assault?

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There’s context for being guilty

low frigate
# flat arch 1. RDJ is a known criminal, I’m comparing current records of RDJ (currently on h...

RDJ is a known drug abuser. That is very different than abuse. They are not the same thing at all. If RDJ was found using drugs during filming (which again I repeat physical violence is much worse) he would likely be fired. However he was clean for three years.

Majors was found guilty for two FELONIES, Assault and Harassment.

He is not walking around free, he has to do a 8 month anger management program sentenced by a judge. In the state of New York you do not have to be sentenced to jail for a felony.

flat arch
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Woah, how are you underlining? 💀

low frigate
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Do the double _ before and after, with no space in between it.

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Also official court documents for his conviction aren’t out yet, but they are for the trail.

flat arch
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Gotcha, we can continue now, I was just curious, somewhat new to discord 😂

loud pond
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They built up that entire storyline for a reason, scrapping it wouldn’t make sense and would be confusing

flat arch
# low frigate RDJ is a known drug abuser. That is __very__ different than abuse. They are not ...

Yes, I don’t disagree with 1 crime being worse than another, stealing candy from a candy store isn’t as bad as an actual bank robbery, granted, but point still stands on both crimes still being illegal, if you have a track record of stealing for years and you became a felon only for someone to hire you and therefore you hide your stealing tendencies or simply get better at it so that it’s less obvious, the likelihood of you not being a thief isn’t very likely, yet your job still gave you a second chance…a second shot at greatness, yet someone who is also a criminal gets 0 chances and is automatically permanently punished with 0 redemption? Reminds me of the Bible, angels sinned once and was forever fallen and destined for eternal darkness, yet humans not only get 2 chances but many? Even with the likelihood of humans continuous history of sinning? See the comparison?

He was just at a book signing and movie theater with his girlfriend 💀 just because you have an obligation to show up to probation doesn’t exactly mean you aren’t going home at night, compared to actual inmates

flat arch
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Also no one said he can’t be redeemed, but if RDJ has assaulted someone while filming Iron Man, he would be fired. Maybe in 10 or more years he could get another big acting job, but he committed a major crime while filming.

flat arch
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I know that, of course he can be redeemed, I already indirectly argued for it, but I’m saying that if there was a crime, you’d at least expect the entire trial to run its course before making a decision…especially when the person in question is literally correlated to your 15+ years of story plot on marvel canon and was also set up in multiple movies/ shows/ tie ins for a future project

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Instead it was a hasty decision that messed up the writing and now…RDJ as Doom? And people wonder why the movies aren’t as good anymore? Miss after miss and failure after failure? Not a coincidence

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# quiet compass Oscar Isaac

That was sarcasm, Josh Brolin plays Cable and Thanos…but Oscar has multiple roles as 2 different characters?

quiet compass
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Oscar not only plays each personality for Moon Knight, but also Apolcaypse (which they seem to be trying to retroactively make canon), and Spider-Man 2099, with which they seem to ALSO be trying to make canon.

low frigate
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Marvel hated those

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I talked so much I got this 😂

quiet compass
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And we know why

low frigate
quiet compass
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Marvel doesn't have a plan lmao

low frigate
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Their plan was "more TV for Disney+" and it fucking bombed, and for good reason

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# low frigate Chris Evans

Definitely 😂 Michael B Jordan and even Paul Bettany…played 2 different versions of the same character 💀

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*endgame when it premiered

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Most crimes aren’t on video, and the crimes that are, you empirically see it’s not as bad as you’d think? Idk

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# quiet compass

Also that is comparing the first episode (which many people were unsure about) to the entire time endgame was in theaters

flat arch
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Bad decision making if you ask me

quiet compass
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flat arch
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Do you see how big he is compared to her? If he “actually” shoved her? I doubt she would still be on her feet let alone 2 feet away from him…if he tried i wouldn’t be surprised if she ended up flown across the street

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Okay so to correct myself, Endgame got more views in theaters, but Agatha brought in about 500 k new viewers (estimated by Variety). On the other hand Endgame did not bring in nearly as many (I don’t have the data, but I would be very surprised.). Plus it’s an easy cash grab for Disney to sell Disney +

low frigate
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He definitely needed to be fired.

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quiet compass
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# low frigate Oh great. I’m so glad he decided not to kill her, and to instead pick her up and...

Just watched it, her head didn’t touch anything, was it close? Sure, but the camera is more than 30 feet away and grainy so who knows, but we clearly see that he wasn’t looking at her head and seeing where it was going to purposely “slam” her head, same way you can hold a baby and still have an accident, hence why the intentional aggravation was dropped, boycott? Seriously? Wasn’t there a writers strike and nothing happened?

low frigate
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Regardless he needs to be fired anyway.

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I don’t know how you can justify acting like that.

flat arch
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Why are we acting like he was a raging Hulk again? You saw the Devil Hulk and I saw the jolly green gentle giant 💀

low frigate
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I’m done arguing with you about it, you sound young, and it’s not an issue to me if you think he shouldn’t be fired.

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# low frigate I’m done arguing with you about it, you sound young, and it’s not an issue to me...

You made it seem like he was a monster…when actual monsters exist in this world, and there’s a clear difference between him and a guy actually beating on a woman purposely trying his hardest to knock her out, not saying accidents aren’t made but to sit here and look at a guy showing massive restraint and still pretend like he’s a demon? even the courts acquitted him on purposeful intent…they saw it clear as day that any injuries wasn’t on purpose hence why they dropped it

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All I’m saying is I’ve seen worse videos than that…Diddy, and the comparison is night and day

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But sure, I’ll consider myself the winner lol later

shell heart
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The entire kang idea wasnt even giving

quiet compass
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I think you forgot to finish your sentence lmao

thin geyser
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bro was ass from the start

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why do y'all want him back

thin geyser
flat arch
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And is that your only contention? I must’ve done pretty good if your only complaint is “peer reviewed” 💀

thin geyser
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I don't think you know what that means

flat arch
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What makes you say that? 💀

thin geyser
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peer reviewed is used for scholarly work lmao

flat arch
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  1. That’s hilarious
  2. Were we not talking about doctors diagnoses?
thin geyser
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thin geyser
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no I literally read that one message and replied

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thin geyser
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look it up yourself buddy

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what point

flat arch
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You made the claim chief, burden of proof

thin geyser
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y'all debate bros are sad

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hope you grow out of it

flat arch
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If I’m so wrong in using the terminology, send the evidence of me being wrong 💀

thin geyser
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not gonna google a term for you because you're scared of looking it up yourself

flat arch
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But sure, just say you don’t want to prove your claims, no problemo

thin geyser
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we're in the marvel discord and you're trying to debate me

flat arch
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flat arch
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You messaged me chief

thin geyser
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I was making fun of you

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LMAO now you have nothing to say

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# thin geyser

“Author’s scholarly work, RESEARCH, or IDEAS”…

thin geyser
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research...

flat arch
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So are doctors researchers?

thin geyser
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on an abuse case...

flat arch
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Who do you think diagnoses people with concussions?

thin geyser
flat arch
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Can you answer them?

thin geyser
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a doctor that diagnosed someone with a concussion isn't a researcher

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a medical practioner is different from a doctor who does research for a living

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not answering the second question cause it's stupid

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# thin geyser most aren't

Ok, it was a yes or no question but I suppose that works, ok so if doctors do research…do doctors not peer review each other?

thin geyser
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how do you peer review a concussion??

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That wasn’t my argument, my argument on peer review was based on the actual article itself suggesting that she somehow had a concussion…and you actually read what I was arguing you’d know this

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Can articles not be peer reviewed?

thin geyser
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but I didn't, which nulls your first point

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thanks for admitting it

thin geyser
flat arch
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Are you being serious? I legitimately can’t tell if you’re trolling or not 😂

flat arch
thin geyser
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it's mine

flat arch
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So why am i obligated to answer your questions when it has 0 relevance to mine?

thin geyser
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this is my third question that you've dodged

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you're clearly doing this in bad faith

flat arch
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You call it dodging, I call it irrelevant and I’m not exactly obligated to answer questions that aren’t correlated to my argument

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You’re using a red herring and asking loaded questions

thin geyser
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then I'm not obligated to answer yours

flat arch
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Never said you were

thin geyser
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thin geyser
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that's what I thought

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can't abide by your own rules

flat arch
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What rules? I’m the one that’s educating you, all you’re doing is being fallacious and I doubt you even know what that is 💀

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I simply know who and what I’m talking to

thin geyser
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I don't think this is productive

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if you want to really talk this out then we can vc

flat arch
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Why does it need to be productive? Not all discussions have to be

thin geyser
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now you're afraid of vc lmao

flat arch
thin geyser
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you're def just afraid you won't be able to get away with dodging my questions in vc

flat arch
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By your logic, your running away from texts 😂

thin geyser
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running away from texts and leading where?

flat arch
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We can both play the baiting games chief

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thin geyser
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exactly

flat arch
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then do it

flat arch
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Track

thin geyser
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it's a hindrance because you refuse to engage in a way which holds you accountable to your own standards

flat arch
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My own standards? You were the one that made claims and wasn’t trying to prove anything, I had to educate you, and how would vc change anything? Can you prove I’m obligated to answer questions in vc more than texts? How?

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You’re the same one that complained about it not being productive yet now you want to vc?

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Contradictory

thin geyser
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because you won't just gloss over my texts and will actually have to answer lmao

flat arch
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“Have to answer” I just asked how?

thin geyser
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What makes me more obligated in vc than in text?

thin geyser
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how about you find out lol

flat arch
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Are you implying you’ll just yell into the mic and s-perg until I answer? 💀

thin geyser
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no

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thin geyser
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you don't have many conversations irl do you?

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thin geyser
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how old are you anyways

flat arch
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No one is forcing you to continue texting me and then begging me to vc 💀

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thin geyser
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not old enough to know what peer review means clearly

flat arch
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Chief, all you did was show 1 definition from 1 website, as if Oxford/ Webster/ Dictionary.com doesn’t exist 💀 if I had pic perms I’d show you that there are multiple different meanings and ways to define “peer review” you didn’t do much but yap

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And you’re struggling to answer basic questions

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So how old are you?

thin geyser
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well you could've just said you didn't have pic perms from the start instead of being antagonistic

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that would've made things a lot easier

flat arch
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Because I actually wanted to understand your argument until you began to get condescending 💀 and once I realized what I’m dealing with you know the rest…

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But regardless you still haven’t explained anything

thin geyser
flat arch
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Never forgot, you’re using a false dilemma

thin geyser
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the real dilemma is if you know what peer reviewed means

flat arch
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As soon as you argued that peer review is only referring to scholarly based studies then I understood your level of intelligence…

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thin geyser
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I can, but I won’t until you explain why I’m obligated to

thin geyser
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W maturity 💀

thin geyser
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bro said W maturity with a skull emoji and is talking about 3rd grade

flat arch
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Bro is new to the internet and social media

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Who complains about emojis and sarcasm?

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Be lucky I can’t use gifs

thin geyser
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bro lacks reading comprehension

flat arch
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?

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Based on what? What haven’t I comprehended?

thin geyser
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bro just proved my point

flat arch
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Me: You’re deaf, you can’t hear properly
You: huh? How?
Me: Exactly

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W logic

thin geyser
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bro just did it again

flat arch
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L jokes…not funny

thin geyser
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what's funny is you don't know what peer reviewed means

flat arch
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Asking me how old iam when he’s still in daycare

thin geyser
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epic own dude!!

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thin geyser
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I can, but I won’t until you explain why I’m obligated to

flat arch
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Either way…sheesh

thin geyser
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what computer do you use

flat arch
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Your moms…

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Nice Mac book

thin geyser
flat arch
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What happened, you can dish out jokes but can’t take them?

thin geyser
flat arch
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You started it chief

thin geyser
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no I didn't start using a mac

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she doesn't either

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thin geyser
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what jokes

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thin geyser
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the joke is that you don't know what peer reviewed means

flat arch
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Ironic

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I know, trust me, she soooo nice, but she didn’t donate the mac she said I can borrow it

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I haven’t visit her again to give her back the computer

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Soon

thin geyser
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can I have it

flat arch
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Ask her

thin geyser
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she said yes

flat arch
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I’ll be there on the weekend, you can get it after I finish having a lovely time with your mom… she’s always hospitable 💪

thin geyser
flat arch
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W spam and repetitiveness

thin geyser
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thanks

flat arch
whole ingot
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kang is probably the easiest character to recast in marvel history and they just didnt

alpine radish
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Kang is a great villain and could be even more dangerous than Thanos and make some great adventures if done right.

sterile ledge
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yeah just recast him

thin geyser
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no

blazing marsh
whole ingot
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hopefully

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still really stupid that they just cancelled every kang plan that they had instead of just recasting him

blazing marsh
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Well that's what those whiny fanboys get for being impatient

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I was looking forward to all the variants

sterile ledge
thin geyser
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he's ass

sterile ledge
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he has potential

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if the other variants are introduced too

night cliff
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Kang obv needs to get recast

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He is a very important character

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They cant just scrap him

rapid oasis
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they can

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they do that with most their villains

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though the soft reboot is a perfect opportunity to recast him

thin geyser
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ye

thick moat
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If they redo Kang post SW do we think they're gonna scrap all the extra teams or stick with some? I can't imagine they'd wipe it all away fully

unborn rivet
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yk what would be good, kang should be in doomsday where he confronts doom and fights but infront of the avengers he gets obliterated the second the duel starts

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would be a good end, showing the next big bad

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like you can't just remove him

thick moat
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Maybe

thick moat
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Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, main Avengers at the least

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That's three teams

blazing marsh
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I think they'll still keep them

twin tendon
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blehhhh

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poorly written character outside of loki

ancient mango
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I think the recast should be just for a quick scene, like the Council of Kangs get obliterated by Doom. Otherwise I didn’t think he was that interesting a character

chrome bloom
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He has already been fired by Marvel as they should.

blazing marsh
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I thought he was pretty interesting

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Recasting isn't hard tbh

balmy coyote
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I liked Kang as a character.

blazing marsh
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I felt they did him better than Ultron

balmy coyote
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Same.

blazing marsh
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Although What If? did a good job with Ultron

low frigate
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One of the best villains of all time