#𝐃𝐀𝐙𝐄𝐃’s Suggestions for a new Marvel Comic Book reader

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proud edge
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DO READ:

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Spider-Man (Peter Parker):
• The Amazing Spider-Man by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko (1963-1971)
• Ultimate Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis (2000-2011)
• Spider-Man Blue by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale*
• Spider-Man Life Story by Chip Zdarsky*
• Ultimate Spider-Man by Johnathan Hickman (2024-)

Spider-Man (other Spider-People):
• Spider-Man 2099 by Peter David (1992-1996)
• Spider-Man Noir by David Hine (2008)*
• Edge of Spider-Verse (2014)*
• Spider-Gwen by Jeff Latour (2015-2018)
• Miles Morales: Spider-Man by Saladin Ahmed (2018-2022)
• Spider-Punk: Battle of the Banned by Cody Ziglar*
• Spider-Man: Fake Red by Yusuke Osawa*

Fantastic Four:
• Fantastic Four by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby (1961-1996)
• Fantastic Four: World’s Greatest Comic Magazine by Erik Larsen*
• Fantastic Four by Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo (2003-2005)
• Fantastic Four by Johnathan Hickman (2009-2011)
• Fantastic Four Life Story by Mark Russel*

Doctor Doom:
Doctor Doom: Books of Doom by Ed Brubaker*

X-Men:
• Uncanny X-Men by Chris Claremont and John Byrne (1975-1991)
• Astonishing X-Men by Joss Whedon (2004-2008)

Wolverine:
• Origin by Paul Jenkins (Wolverine’s Origin Story)
• Origin 2 by Kieron Gillen

Avengers:
• The Avengers by Kurt Busiek (1998-2004)
• The Avengers by Jed MacKay (2024-)
• Avengers: Tech-On by Jim Zub*

Iron Man:
• Iron Man by David Michelinie and Bob Layton (1968-1982)
• Iron Man: Extremis by Warren Ellis*
• Invincible Iron Man by Matt Fraction (2008-2012)

Hulk:
• Planet Hulk by Greg Pak
• World War Hulk by Greg Pak (Sequel to Planet Hulk)
• Immortal Hulk by Al Ewing (2018-2021)

Thor:
• Thor by Walter Simonson (1983-1987)
• Jason Aaron’s Thor Saga:

  1. Thor: God of Thunder (2013-2014)
  2. Original Sin (2014)
  3. Thor (2014-2015)
  4. Mighty Thor (2015-2018)
  5. The Unworthy Thor (2016-2017)
  6. Thor (2018)
  7. King Thor (2019)

Hawkeye:
• Hawkeye by Matt Fraction (2012-2015)

Vision:
• The Vision by Tom King*

Daredevil: (this is the really good stuff)
• Daredevil: The Man Without Fear by Frank Miller* (Read this first because it’s Daredevil’s Origin Story)
• Daredevil by Frank Miller (1973-1983)
• The Marvel Knights Daredevil Era (1998-2001)
• Daredevil by Brian Michael Bendis and Alex Maleev (2001-2006)
• Daredevil by Mark Waid (2011-2015)
• Daredevil by Charles Soule (2015-2018)
• Daredevil by Chip Zdarsky (2019-2022)

Black Panther:
• Black Panther by Christopher Priest (1998-2003)
• Black Panther by Reginald Hudson (2005-2008)
• Captain America/Black Panther: Flags of our Fathers by Reginald Hudlin

Captain America/Bucky:
• Truth: Red, White, and Black by Robert Morales*
• Captain America by Ed Brubaker (2005-2012)
• Captain America: Sam Wilson by Nick Spencer (2015-2017)
• Captain America: Home of the Brave by Mark Waid*

Ms. Marvel:
Ms. Marvel by G. Willow Wilson (2014-2015)

Scarlet Witch:
Scarlet Witch by James Robinson (2015-2017)

Deadpool:
• Literally almost anywhere you want since his stories aren’t that serious, here are some good ones though:
• Deadpool by Joe Kelly (1997-2002)
• Deadpool by Daniel Way (2008-2012)
• Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe by Cullen Bunn*
• Deadpool by Gerry Duggan (2012-2015)
• Hawkeye vs. Deadpool by Gerry Duggan*
• Deadpool Samurai by Sanshiro Kasama (2020-2021)

Punisher:
• Punisher War Journal by Carl Potts (1988-1995)
• Punisher by Garth Ennis (2004-2009)

Venom:
• Venom: Lethal Protector by David Michelinie*
• Venom by Donny Cates (2018-2021)

Moon Knight:
• Moon Knight by Charlie Huston (2006-2009)
• Moon Knight by Jeff Lemiere (2016-2018)
• Moon Knight by Jed MacKay (2021-)

*= Stand-alone Story

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DON’T READ:

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• Civil War by Mark Millar
• Ultimate X-Men by Mark Millar
• The Ultimates by Mark Millar
(Can you tell I don’t like Mark Millar yet)
• Marvel Ruins by Warren Ellis
• Spider-Man: One More Day by J. Michael Straczynski
• Spider-Man: One Moment in Time by Joe Quesada
• Spider-Man Reign by Kaare Andrews
• The Amazing Spider-Man by Zeb Wells
• The Amazing Spider-Man by Dan Slott (seriously, what the hell was up with Silk in that run?)
• Ultimate Comics Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis
• Avengers Vs. X-Men by Brian Michael Bendis
• Secret Invasion by Brain Michael Bendis
(Can you tell yet that I don’t like Bendis either)

nimble hatch
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Thank you this is very much appreciated!!<3

patent ingot
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And Krakoa

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proud edge
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Wait I’m still working on it dw

patent ingot
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Oh good

proud edge
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I’ll edit the message to include Ultimate X-Men for sure

proud edge
proud edge
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Fuckkk I’m gonna need Nitro if I want to be able to add more stuff to my message

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Eh whatever, I’ll get it tomorrow, I’m kind of done adding more stuff today anyways

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Making a good quality comic book guide for you chumps is worth it 🫡

proud edge
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𝐃𝐀𝐙𝐄𝐃’s Suggestions for a new Marvel Comic Book reader

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Also wait will this thread delete itself if it’s inactive for too long??

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Oh nvm it just won’t show in the channel list

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blazing oak
proud edge
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Nice!! It’s sort of an older comic run from the 80’s so it might take some getting used to, but it’s great

vale compass
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Gonna have to respectfully disagree with not reading ruins or reign (as long as you know what they are getting into it, they're very fun), additionally I disagree with all of your hulk picks, especially Immortal Hulk. Should not be your first hulk book. Rest of them seem good.

proud edge
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I think Ruins is a little fun, but it’s sort of just basic shock factor and not much else imo. Sort of the same with Reigns although that one is just kind of dark instead of having a lot of shock value. I do agree with what you’re saying about Hulk though, I think there are probably some better comics to start with when it comes to Hulk but I haven’t really read that many Hulk comics 😅

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I mean I don’t think Immortal Hulk is really that confusing for a new reader though, I was fine when I read it as somebody who hasn’t read much Hulk

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Planet Hulk is probably the better starting point though

vale compass
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So much if it is payoff for older stories. its still a great book, but its not as good as it could be. Like All star superman.

vale compass
# proud edge Planet Hulk is probably the better starting point though

This one is a lot more subjective but I think a story where our character is pulled from their usual environment and setting works a lot better if you are familiar with how the character interacts with that setting beforehand. For example. Hulk finally being free of persecution on Sakaar hits harder when you've seen him be persecuted.

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like again, still a great comic regardless, but if you're trying to read it at the perfect time, its not at the beginning. (which is why I still haven't read it :P)

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# vale compass This one is a lot more subjective but I think a story where our character is pul...

I mean I completely understand where you’re coming from, and I agree, it’s probably better to have read older Hulk stories to enhance your understanding of the character before you read Planet Hulk. On the other hand though, I think you can sort of get a good sense of how people on Earth treat him inside of the story, with the main reason that he was sent to Sakaar in the first place being that humans didn’t want him to stay on Earth anymore.

Again, I haven’t read many Hulk comics so maybe there is a way better starting point, but it isn’t a bad starting point at all in my opinion

vale compass
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bronze age hulk stories imo are the best starting places, basically laid out the foundations of the character

proud edge
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Really? I’ll have to check them out

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I mean I can always update my list so I may very well end up putting those comics on this list

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Thanks for the suggestion

vale compass
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also, Bendis Spiderman on the no-read list is INSANE, its considered like one of the best runs of all time, aint it?

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is it just cause its 1610?

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I put the first Ultimate Spider-Man (with Peter Parker) on the Do-Read list and Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man (with Miles Morales) on the Don’t-Read list because there are better Miles Morales runs

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vale compass
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You’re good, it’s easy how you could mix the two up considering they have a very similar title

patent ingot
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Might as well also explain how comics work to anybody who is confused about them

Every individual comic book is called an issue, think of an issue like a chapter in a book. Issues can also come in variant covers, which are a version of the issue that comes in an alternate cover but still contains the same content inside. These issues are sold separately and then either what’s called a trade paperback or a hardcover will come out compiling usually around 3-20 of these issues. An omnibus will collect around 25-50 of these issues.

The difference between this and graphic novels is that a graphic novel completely ignores this system and contains the entire story all in one book, not separated by issues that were ever sold separately. It may be separated by different volumes if it’s a series of graphic novels, like the Bone or Amulet series.

A run is the section of a series that one author has written. For example if the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series is taken over and written by somebody else starting next book, then all of the books from the first one all the way to the most recent one would be part of the “Jeff Kinney” run. If they decided to reboot the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series to start back at a new version of book one, then a new series would begin. For this analogy to work, think of the Wimpy Kid books as issues.

A limited series is a series where the entire story is told in a set number of issues. Normally they are 6 or 12 issues long.

Marvel Unlimited and DC Universe Infinite refer to the subscription services that offer most of the two publisher’s respective libraries, so basically every comic book issue you could ever want to read is on them besides the most recent ones. However, you can read the most recent ones on DCUI if you subscribe to the “Ultra” tier, which is more expensive than the normal tier and only offered at an annual price instead of a monthly one.

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Here’s the different roles that a comic book team might take to make a comic book:

Writer – The writer writes the story and has the overall vision of how the story will go. They write the dialogue and how the story will progress.
Penciler – This person takes the script and draws the comic. They draw the comic in pencil which then gets inked and coloured later on.
Inker – The inker inks over the pencils that the penciler drew. Sometimes this is digitally but often it is with actual ink. The inker can also be known as the finisher – especially when they have added additional detail to the art which the penciler has not provided.
Colorist – This person gives the comic color. This used to be done with coloured ink but nowadays this is done digitally to allow for a variety of different styles.
Letterer – The letterer will take the script and place all the dialogue, word balloons, thought bubbles, sound effects etc into the comic in the intended places.
Editor – The editor makes sure that everything is good to publish in a comic. They will check for spelling mistakes, art problems and will also co-ordinate with other collaborators to make sure story elements will not interfere with other comic books.

Source used: https://www.howtolovecomics.com/comic-book-glossary-of-terms/#google_vignette

How To Love Comics
Glossary of Comic Book Terms

Here is a glossary of comic book terms, that are regularly used in comic book media and discussion, to help those new to comics.

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(This is also a good source for anything that I missed, I tried to cover everything important but obviously I couldn’t fit everything)

proud edge
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Lmk if y’all have any specific characters that you guys want recommendations on

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The first few volumes of it are peak go argue with a wall

sleek tinsel
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stinks sadly

bold pilot
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Swap out Bendis USM for JMS ASM, that's a much better modern 2000s spidey run

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sleek tinsel
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I'd add Gruenwald's Captain America to the Captain America list

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might drop some of my other recs maybe in the morning too tired cba now

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sleek tinsel
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Gruenwald's cool because it's more heavily focused on social commentary and like his interactions and reactions with the outside world

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whilst brubakers is more like personal/relationship focused

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Oh

proud edge
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Wdym oh

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Captain America Comic Recs

Avengers (1964) #4- Optional, Avengers uncovering Steve from freezing and he joins them in modern times
Captain America Man Out of Time- Modern retelling of Steve emerging from the ice in the present, somewhat retcons Avengers #4 but highly recommended. Works well as an "origin" retelling.
The Marvels Project- Not a Steve story, effectively retells the stories of a bunch of marvel characters from the 1940s/WW2 era, Captain America and Bucky being a part of that.

Englehart's Captain America #153-186 (Particularly the original Secret Empire arc, #169-186)- Older story, probably one of the earlier big stories dealing with Steve's relationship with America and kinda begins the big arc he has over coming to terms with his place in the modern world.

Gruenwald's Captain America #307-443- Long run, but really strong from what I've read so far, focuses very heavily on social commentary, continuing that arc of coming to terms with what America is and Steve's place in the modern world. Also introduces John Walker (US Agent) and all that stuff. Would definitely at least recommend the John Walker stuff up to #350 (I'm only at like, #362)

Brubaker's Captain America- Not going to list issues numbers because it jumps around titles and series for a bit but you can look it up online. My favourite comic run ever, widely considered to be the best Captain America run, if you read nothing else read this (and maybe Gruenwalds) but especially this. Introduces Winter Soldier, and focuses less on the social commentary stuff and more on characters personal relationships, and in many ways focuses more on Bucky than Steve. Ties into Civil War and a few other events.
Captain America and Bucky- Spinoff of Brubaker's Cap and should be read within that, adding it because you could technically read a bit of it standalone, deals with Bucky's origin during WW2 and becoming Steve's sidekick.

Remender and Spencers Runs- Haven't actually read these yet, heard mixed but relatively decent things (although the end of Spencers run is controversial). Mainly putting here because it brings in Sam Wilson as Cap which a lot of people might like.

JMS Run- Most recent run that just finished, I am not really a fan, just mentioning it because as bad as it gets the first arc is lowkey peak, puts a big role on Steve's background during WW2, lot of flashbacks and explores a lot of his life pre-serum.

proud edge
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Normally I would execute you for adding your own list of suggestions in my thread called DAZED’s suggestions but these seem like really good suggestions so I’ll spare you for now

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Everybody go check out these Cap comics because Juice probably knows what he’s talking about

sleek tinsel
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also when I searched up Avengers #4 just to make sure I had the right one google thought I was talking about Endgame

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crystal acorn
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Helllo dazeds suggestions for

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Don't read any of this
It's just DAZED's agenda

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Read Claremont X-Men instead

crystal acorn
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patent ingot
proud edge
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Also even if I didn’t is this any way to treat one of the main people who redirect others to your reading order thread 🙄

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Oh wait

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I'll send people here dw

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You better

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These are peak suggestions

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The world would never see a soul saying “comics are too complicated” if everybody listened to my suggestions

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Winter Soldier by Ed Brubaker, Captain America: The Death of Captain America also by Ed Brubaker, Winter Soldier (2012) by Ed Brubaker, Winter Soldier: The Bitter March by Rick Remender, Tales of Suspense: Hawkeye and the Winter Soldier by Matthew Rosenberg, and The Winter Soldier (2019) by Kyle Higgins.

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I actually copied and pasted that from another server

sleek tinsel
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TRUE

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this covers the brubaker cap stuff, specifically with issues since it does jump around a bit

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sleek tinsel
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Best comic run oat shrug

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