#Did you like the Krakoan status quo?

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winged leafBOT
tribal pumice
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I’m unsure actually

neon dawn
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Eh.

wet gate
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Eh.

left helm
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Eh.

round zealot
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I just never got that into it

cunning kayak
arctic anvil
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It was a desperately needed kick in the ass for the X-books line and I think it could have worked going forward, but it had gotten sloppy in recent years and the ending was badly rushed.

echo mica
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Yes

trail thistle
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Krakoa post Hickman is BAD

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It was never going to end well

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It was a mutant sex cult with a Nazi, multiple sex offenders, and genocidal maniacs leading it

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That isn't even mentioning the crucible

pallid anchor
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Overall, good concept and idea, but in my opinion I think it strayed a tad too far from what made X-Men X-Men.

trail thistle
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It would be a good concept

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If it hadn't been done like twice before

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Mutants find an island to call home
Mutants disagree
Mutants get genocides

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That happens literally every few years

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Genoshia, Utopia, Krakoa

pallid anchor
# trail thistle It *would* be a good concept

Yeah, and I don't like how the X-Men kinda deviated from their usual schtick of helping humanity to barricading themselves on an island. That and the countless plot directions they took that I didn't agree with, that felt more OOC than consistent, at least to me, for the characters. But who knows, maybe I am wrong.

trail thistle
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One of my biggest issues with that Era is Kitty being a alcoholic murderer

pallid anchor
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The coliseum was another one too, and I scratched my head hard at it.

tardy dune
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Krakoa had very underwhelming exceution and fatal writing mistakes.

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All of us can agree on that.

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BUT

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In general I prefer mutants having a home of their own.

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The status quo itself isn't bad if it was written better.

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But what exactly are mutants without this status quo?

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Without a place to call home, mutants will be constantly being hunted and divided while their enemies stack power on them.

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And let's be real, Marvel will never make one final peace treaty between mankind and mutantkind so do NOT hit me with the "They should return to society and fix their relationship with humans."

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With the mutantkind having a home, writers can constantly keep fucking their relationship with humanity while I don't have to be sorry about my favourite mutants being divided and tossed around every week.

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So I say YES for the Krakoan status quo.

trail thistle
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The Krakoan status quo is the mutants forgiving their villains and death having no meaning.

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Sure, mutants having a home is good

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But Krakoa is arguably the WORST example of that

tardy dune
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I very much preferred Krakoa falling a part from the inside because of the messy relationships between heroes and villains.

Rather than it ending with the fucking 6836th genocide from outside forces.

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Again them allowing Sinister in and the X-Men having absolutely no problem with their former mortal enemies is bad writing and wasn't executed well.

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But that's execution, the status quo itself and the concept is interesting.

trail thistle
tardy dune
dreamy matrix
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I honestly rather admired the bold direction that Krakoa took

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It was rather refreshing to have the whole mutant vs humanity relationship shift from being oppressed to being at the same level

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Sure the whole resurrection stuff lowered stakes in many aspects

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But then it created new opportunities to have different approaches to stories

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Probably the best instance I can think of is how Logan's skeletons started getting collected

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Or how Cyclops died in the public eye and Scott needed to be careful about being seen

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Or just in general, every fight was more for keeping their Krakoa society stable, supported, and alive

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Certainly not appealing to everybody but I really liked the drastic difference in approach in Hickman's X-Men ongoing, because it was quite distinctly about all the delicate politics and social relations that Krakoa was being built upon

trail thistle
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Overall I don't like Krakoa, but Hickman's stuff was good. But the majority of the stuff outside of his works wasn't really my cup of tea

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I think the whole status quo of Krakoa is definitely one of the weaker X-Men status quos, though
I prefer Utopia to Krakoa if we're just talking about the times they've been an Island nation

meager hatch
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Always gonna like krakoa as it was my starting point for x-men comics as a whole and I read almost every x-title during the krakoan era, I’m wrapping up on the fall of x now, just a bit behind, looking forward to starting this new era of X-men

primal geyser
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Idk

hollow apex
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I don’t know