What are your feelings about Robert Downey Jr.'s casting as Doctor Doom?

[rough briar]

who is choosing positive

who chose positive

nah

nah

nah

[twin mantle]

Delete this I want the first message

[rough briar]

who chose positive

[rough briar]

no

[finite shell]

rdj back in the mcu? wow im surprised

[honest jetty]

I’m interested to see what they gonna do with “Tony’s” face as Doctor doom

[twin mantle]

Gonna plant TNT under your house (in Minecraft)

[inland hawk]

He could be either really good or really bad

[rough briar]

😔

[red hatch]

Marvel will go astounding lengths not to cast a Romani actor.

[inland hawk]

Story wise

[twin mantle]

True

[rotund garnet]

Bro was iron man why tf he dr doom?

[rough briar]

He’s gonna be mid at best

[stoic isle]

i dont like it

no

[dusty plaza]

HOLY ASSGARD y'all wtf is happening

[cursive onyx]

If it's an alt universe version, a temp fakeout or something I'm fine. If he's the main Doom, I am not a fan.

[inland hawk]

Hell always be a good actor

[stoic fern]

Positive I am so hyped 🥶🥶🥶

[tawdry gate]

I don’t understand how it’s a good thing

[stoic isle]

great actor

but come on marvel

really?

[stark moon]

I was hoping for Victor von Doom, but this doesn't mean VvD won't come

[spiral trail]

The what?

[stark moon]

Plus I wanted Kang to continue too

[tawdry gate]

Yeah exactly
Just major disrespect

Desperately trying to get the fanbase back

[honest jetty]

RDJ making a great comeback, I just hope he doesn’t die again lol ;-; but they might do that just to officially get him out of the MCU.. 🤷

[tawdry gate]

Same

[thorn estuary]

hes not going to take his mask off

so what's it matter?

[nimble ore]

Honest ngl RDJ as Doctor Doom is a perfect casting

imo

[stark moon]

And he might. Nothing yet says he won't

[tame hamlet]

Could be a giant mislead like Marvel's done with trailers and cameos.

[spiral trail]

Is it mcu?

[honest jetty]

They might make him take it off for plot (twist?)

[thorn estuary]

its doomsday

[sick merlin]

Me too

[nimble ore]

wasn't there like a court case saying the film studios can't mislead audiences now

[humble plinth]

I was not expecting that

[thorn estuary]

isnt doom's whole thing that he doesn't take off his mask?

like his face is scarred

[tawdry gate]

If that’s the case and he’s just voice acting and it’s not supposed to be some multiverse variant of Tony or something then it could be okay
But from the speech it seemed like it was cause of the multiverse

[thorn estuary]

is doom multiverse or are they moving past it?

[honest jetty]

Is it like that? I don’t know much about the character, but if it’s like that then maybe not?

[tawdry gate]

Did you see the announcement or just the picture?

[thorn estuary]

just the picture

[rough briar]

multiverse they are just adapting Hickmans run for Emperor Doom

[thorn estuary]

i finished watching dp3 and i didnt even get to like, stew on how much i enjoyed it before this happened

[tawdry gate]

When they talked about it they were like “just to show you all the possibilities of the multiverse” yatta yatta rdj unmasked

[rough briar]

and it’ll probably just be a giant cash grab that relies more on cameos then a actual plot

[thorn estuary]

is this not for the ff4 movie?

with pascal?

[tame hamlet]

Yeah, but that's saying they can be sued for doing it, and that only applies for trailers.

[honest jetty]

Ooooh it is a mutliversal event, knew it!-

[tawdry gate]

No it’s not

[thorn estuary]

.what

then whats it for?

[tawdry gate]

It’s doom world avengers 5

Secret wars is avengers 4

[rough briar]

no it’s avengers like

6

avengers 5 is doomsday

[barren marsh]

Secret Wars is 6

[thorn estuary]

its just. its kinda disheartening that people are like 'the mcu is over! this is it' like the movie's not even made yet

[tawdry gate]

Forgot endgame and infinity war are separate

[rough briar]

I mean it just kinda feels like

“Hey! This will get our fans back!”

[tawdry gate]

They should really move on from avengers there’s like none of them left

[hardy copper]

bruh i voted mixed

[thorn estuary]

i mean, yeah, but still

[honest jetty]

Bro 💀

[thorn estuary]

let the movie play out first, then make the decision

[nimble ore]

oh mb

[hardy copper]

this.. right HERE!

[honest jetty]

Ur not wrong but when you put it like that-

[nimble ore]

thought it was for the movie advertising in general

[tawdry gate]

Like things are being titled avengers just cause it’ll make them more money-

[hardy copper]

LET THE FILM PLAY OUT, BEFORE CRITICIZE

[rough briar]

I doubt it’ll be that great anyways as I’ve said since they’ll probably focus more on cameos then actual plot

[thorn estuary]

like its working, isnt it? people are talking about it now more than ever

doom comics are trending

[hardy copper]

they gained a lot in non-avengers film too right?

[tame hamlet]

It makes sense to have Doom be a part of Secret Wars, since the comics Doom was the reason that event happened as well, but it feels too sudden to successfully build his character up in the span of 1 film (maybe 2) before Avengers 6.

[tawdry gate]

Yeah but avengers way more for sure

[honest jetty]

Who even is left from the originals?? Hulk is an old man, so is Hawkeye..

[nimble ore]

have you seen Deadpool 3, Black Panther, Gotg 3, or No Way Home

like some of their biggest films aren't Avengers movies

[hardy copper]

RDJ’s trending on Twitter, meaning most are anticipating.

[tawdry gate]

Thor had a horrible movie
Hulk isn’t even hulk
Hawkeye is still around but he’s getting old slowly

[hardy copper]

So if this will gain them more…

so be it

[honest jetty]

It’s X now.. 🥲

[tame hamlet]

Hulk isn't old, he's like mid-40s.

[honest jetty]

In she hulk he seemed like it, my bad ig

[tawdry gate]

Yeah but THE biggest ones are
And they’re seeming to title all their big crossover stuff avengers anyway

[tame hamlet]

He had the bad arm from when he snapped in Endgame, but he fixed himself.

[honest jetty]

Kay, point made. Hulk is still an option, but she hulk I’m guessing is taking over his place

[hardy copper]

Bruh, Marvel’s Avengers Endgame is their most successful film.

[tawdry gate]

I’m just saying if the film isn’t actually about the avengers it shouldn’t be called avengers

[hardy copper]

The second is Avengers Infinity War as well.

[hardy copper]

Obviously

But since this is Avengers, so assume it is about Avengers

[tawdry gate]

I doubt they’ll have time in secret wars or doom world to explain the new avengers lineup and the huge crossover level threat coming

[tame hamlet]

Oh, absolutely. Plus, there's Kate Bishop taking over for Hawkeye.

[honest jetty]

Yeah, it’s so hard to keep up (for me at least)

[tawdry gate]

What movies are before these 2 anyway?

[honest jetty]

I’m still not accepting iron heart for iron man, I don’t think I ever will… (me personally)

[hardy copper]

Well, Marvel is Marvel.

[nimble ore]

thats why i said SOME

[tame hamlet]

Captain America: Brave New World, Thunderbolts*, and Fantastic 4

[tawdry gate]

What does that mean?

[hardy copper]

Why’d u think Marvel wouldn’t have time on the lineup?

[nimble ore]

thats coz they're the NEW AVENGERS

SO THEY TITLE IT

THE AVENGERS

BECUAS

[tawdry gate]

I’m most excited about ff

[nimble ore]

THEY ARE THE AVENGERS

[tawdry gate]

In the MCU every single character is just an avenger

[honest jetty]

Yeah me two, I am already cooking theories (:<

[tawdry gate]

That just takes away meaning really

[tame hamlet]

It's like saying the second team of X-Men aren't the X-Men because they're not Iceman, Jean, Cyclops, Beast, or Angel.

[fervent verge]

RDJ is a great actor but like I was really looking forward to seeing someone new for the role idk :/

[tawdry gate]

Well in a big crossover universe ending movie I’d wanna focus on that instead of spend 30-40 mins summoning everyone up together

I feel like there should’ve been another avengers before that isn’t huge crossover like that just establishes a new team basically

[tawdry gate]

I hope they do a lot of scientist shenanigans

[nimble ore]

but they'd still need the crossover to bring in the non-avengers heroes

and multiverse heroes

so either way

you get the massive crossover

[honest jetty]

Ikr!!?? I love geeky reed ngl-

[tawdry gate]

That’s not necessarily true

Saying every single hero ever is an avenger is just bland
If they do end up establishing a main avengers lineup than congrats good on them
But if they just have a big crossover with everyone then it’s not really avengers- it’s just everyone 💀

[tawdry gate]

Yeah that’s what those 2 movies are
Idk what you’re trying to say here

[tawdry gate]

I love when they explore cosmic stuff it’s so fun
Ff are underrated

Annihilus is one of my favorite bad guys

[nimble ore]

your saying to have a movie with just the new core avengers, and then not have a massive crossover to bring everyone together

but in order to bring in ALL THE CHARACTERS

[hardy copper]

The only thing here, is we thought Avengers’ done in 2019…

but not yet.

[honest jetty]

Fr

[nimble ore]

you need a massive crossover

[tawdry gate]

That’s not what I’m saying

[nimble ore]

well thats what its coming across as

[tawdry gate]

I don’t know how it is

[nimble ore]

i'd rather have massive crossovers than have a smaller movie for the sake of having a smaller movie

[hardy copper]

well, i’d rather have plot twists on the film and full of fights rather than just talking blahblah

[tawdry gate]

Lol

[nimble ore]

go watch transformers then

[tawdry gate]

I just wanted a smaller film before that actually explains what the whole “avengers” deal is before a movie that throws every single character imaginable in it just to do it

[hardy copper]

i meant new movie.

[nimble ore]

oh mb

[tawdry gate]

Like Avengers West Coast or Young Avengers just to say hey audience this is the new main core line up

I think West Coast has more potential tbh

[hardy copper]

would y’all prefer the og casts?

[nimble ore]

still disagree but whatever, its your opinion

[tame hamlet]

If it's to end the Saga, the Avengers films would want to have everyone involved in the Saga. Infinity War and Endgame did that for the Infinity Saga, so the same should happen for the next Avengers titles that are meant to end the Saga.

[tawdry gate]

Idk why but ok

[tawdry gate]

100% lol
But I understand that time moves on yatta yatta

[hardy copper]

lol the fans are easy to comprehend right?

[tawdry gate]

Yeah a saga about avengers-
But this saga… isn’t really like that
It’s just randomly having two movies titled avengers
Like I said tho if within the movies they establish a core avengers stuff than congrats

But if it’s solely called that just cause it’s a giant crossover movie then I’d rather it just be “Marvel Secret Wars” instead and etc

Oh I leveled up apparently…

[nimble ore]

but it is about the Avengers, the next generation i mean

[tawdry gate]

Hopefully

We’ll see

[hardy copper]

Avengers ain’t Avengers witout the OG

Imo, this mightve been anticipated, but bs

[tawdry gate]

Tbh avengers without Janet is a bit sad

[tame hamlet]

Fiege said that Avengers-titled films after 2019 would be Saga enders. Also, the first Avengers was the film that established the Avengers at the end. It should be an Avengers film that establishes a new Avengers team.

[hollow idol]

i second this

[tawdry gate]

Then I just dislike something Fiege wants that I don’t believe makes sense or is honest in anyway

And I don’t understand what you’re saying with the second part

[hardy copper]

why just make another but it’s not titled as avengers?

if this’ll be what it’ll be, then idk

[hollow idol]

it means i agree with them

[tawdry gate]

I wasn’t referring to you?

[hollow idol]

oh

[tame hamlet]

We might have gotten solo films for 4/6 OG MCU Avengers (Incredible Hulk counts), but it wasn't until the actual Avengers movie when they were placed together and found their footing as a team, and by the end of that movie, started calling themselves the Avengers. It should be an Avengers movie where the next Avengers team is formed and titled as such.

[tawdry gate]

Yes I completely agree
Tho they were the avengers at the start of the film just not in the same way. Shield collected them to be a team
It’s just they left shield and did their own thing and became their own team at the end

But yeah an avengers film should be what makes the avengers lineup- obviously so
That’s actually what I want

[rough briar]

Idk what I'm feeling rn

[tawdry gate]

Fair enough

[tame hamlet]

Yeah, that's legit.

It's very confusing

[open cipher]

ANY role played by RDj will be good

[tame hamlet]

Agreed, but circumstances leads to complications.

[rough briar]

FRR

[tame hamlet]

I'm sticking firm to my idea that it could be a mislead.

[fossil void]

yeah that's cope

the most rational explanation is infamous iron man

[grizzled vector]

aw shit

[thin jetty]

Because I did

[tame hamlet]

Could also be Iron Maniac.

[fossil void]

ye

I really wish they cleared it up to avoid all this hysteria

because rn everyone is just confused

[tame hamlet]

Agreed

[fossil void]

but yeah I'm sure it's one of those storylines

otherwise it makes 0 sense to bring back rdj

[shell sundial]

if it’s the same universe as the other main mcu movies, then i think it would be a cool way after having RDJ come back, but at the same time, i feel he should just be Iron Man, but that’s just me.

[violet cedar]

Worst idea ever

[finite vapor]

Me

[arctic lance]

I just heard the news

And HUH?!?!??

[topaz loom]

Tbh….

Dumb

Why didn’t they get another actor

[abstract forge]

Why should they?

[topaz loom]

They can give an opportunity to a new actor or low end actor and bring them up. Also it’s kinda distasteful to the iron man legacy. Some might say “yeah but he’s playing a new character” but I’m pretty sure 100% in the film they’ll have something stupid where someone is gonna try to convince him to be good and not fight them cause he used to be “iron man”

But it’s lazy, this is a cash grab so people can be like “what how is he doom?!”

It’s a terrible idea EVEN if it’s a mislead

[unkempt oak]

Please be a mislead

[midnight wolf]

Happy we have RDJ. Unhappy that he is doom. Only have to see what happens plus if when Thor sees his face goes ‘Tony’ or smth

[pearl mauve]

It really depends on how they're gonna do it. I will not accept him just being there without any kind of explanation.

[fossil void]

same

[gaunt flare]

I saw this and i let out the loudest "HUH??!!" you have ever heard

[fast anvil]

Since F4 is going to be an elseworld story that night be how they explain it, plus doom has facial scarring, so he might not be recognisable depending on how bad they make it

[grand orbit]

He has been great as an actor. I enjoy him. So yes. I am feeling positive.

[true folio]

I’m shocked like SUPER SHOCKED

idk how I feel about this 😭

[balmy jungle]

Idk how to feel, we will have to wait and see. Russo's are cooking and I'm here for dinner

[hoary sand]

RDJ knows how to act in a full body suit, I'm confident he'll do Doom justice.

We'll likely never see Doom take his helmet off

[arctic lance]

Unless if Doom’s meant to be a variant of Tony Stark, which…

I don’t read comics, so idk?

[fossil void]

he was announced as victor so unfortunately not a variant

[nimble ore]

well not nessercarily

could be a victor from another earth who is basically tony stark

similar to how sylvie was a variant of loki

but was still loki

[autumn reef]

I just can't see Tony Stark as that... And idk how marvel will make it even sense... I mean I bet marvel is gonna just give it to us that's it... Half the things marvel don't explain... Srsly? Just gonna watch the movie and judge... I just don't have a good feeling about this

[grand orbit]

Same

[fossil void]

That sounds like cope to me

[grand orbit]

People couldn't see Robert Pattinson as batman, same for Ben Afflect. But those were fine. Very good even.

[hoary sand]

Will we ever even see Doom with his helmet off? It's a big part of his character to never show his face

[jagged sinew]

That’s what I was thinking too

They could just hide his face

And do an accent

I’m very curious how they are gonna do it

Very good actor so good casting choice

[hoary sand]

Yeah he'll do a great job with one of marvel's biggest villains.

Anyone would be better than Fant4stic Doom at least 😅

[jagged sinew]

lol

Low bar

Also

It’s good because

Apparently he actually had gone to try out for the old fantastic four’s doom

But got denied

So it’s clear he was interested, at least back then, and since he’s doing it now he probably is too

[fossil void]

ben affleck was perfect casting

such wasted potential

[uncut rover]

I don't think he's that fitting for the role

I'm not a big F4 fan but I imagine Doctor Doom as someone more serious than RDJ's role in the MCU

[fossil void]

same

[clear pendant]

Will there be a possibility of Pedro's Reed meeting RDJ's Doom?

That might be something

[fast anvil]

I'd assume they'd both be from the same universe no?

[arctic olive]

im LEAING towards positive bc we dont know until we see it

and im sure the wouldnt mess up the role horribly

[past scaffold]

Its funny that whatever marvel does the fans are never satisfied

I love rdj and im sure he's gonna do a good job

[violet wharf]

idk how they’re gonna pull this off but i trust marvel

[nimble ore]

yes coz F4, Thunderbolts, and Cap 4 casts are all in both Avengers 5 & 6

confirmed at SDCC if you don't believe

[radiant sage]

It’s like I want Victor Von Doom and played by a Romani actor, but at the same time, I realize RDJ Doom is a variant. I want to know what happened in his life to go down such a dark path

Sorry, that was all my reply to Jocasta on the pill

[twilit geode]

I think RDJ could definitely portray the character well as he has a wide range as an actor. However, it seems like a lack of creativity in the casting when another actor could have a chance to be in this role, especially an actor who hasn't already played such a huge role in the MCU

[lilac flicker]

If it’s the main doom, I don’t like it. If it’s a variant, it’s fine

[rough briar]

I love the fact that RDJ is back, especially as Victor Von Doom. Personally I'm okay with whatever route they go, whether it's the main Doom or a variant or whatever the case may be.

[lyric phoenix]

Is it confirmed if he is back as doom?

I heard it’s not confirmed yet

He might be iron man

Or iron man turned dr doom

[inland hawk]

Avengers 4 was endgame...

[tame hamlet]

The announcement was Robert Downey Jr as Victor Von Doom. We know nothing more beyond that.

[brave trail]

At first I was mixed about it, but the more I think about it the more it grows on me

It feels narratively satisfying

RDJ started this universe and he’s ending it

And they get to explore the multiverse even more

Something which (so far) feels underutilised

[slate glacier]

I think he'll do a good job as Doctor Doom, he won an Oscar last year for his villain role in Oppenheimer

[icy isle]

I think it is great to have RDJ as Doom.

Think about it, Dr. Doom is have big shoes to fill. He's big and complex character. Live action movie never justified him yet.

Setuping a new actor would be challenging.

[brave trail]

Also, they’re probably gonna need to start teasing him real soon

[tame hamlet]

Well, since Doom is a magic user, there could be something in Agatha All Along.

[tawdry gate]

Yes I corrected myself earlier why did you scroll up hours to reply to something that was long gone?

[manic briar]

Pain

This was the worst choice, marvel is desperate to cash in on the nostalgia

[tawdry gate]

Completely agree

[inland hawk]

I didn't scroll up, it was the first thing I saw

[tawdry gate]

How in the world 😭

Discord do be like that sometimes

[viral sun]

its over

[twin mantle]

Name a better duo than Marvel Studios and casting a white person to play a Romani character

It's happened three times now

[brave trail]

Marvel Studios had nothing to do with the casting of the other 2 Dooms…

[manic briar]

Wanda

[twin mantle]

Wanda and Pietro

[brave trail]

Sorry I didn’t know

[final plinth]

I hope Dr Doom is in the mask a lot of the time, or people are just going to think Iron Man.

[burnt dirge]

Hahaha! They might change the mask. Who knows!

[royal imp]

no mask at all 😮

[stoic fern]

If they do that marvel will die

[burnt dirge]

For sure!😂

[royal imp]

and they paid so much so better show the goods

ngl,rdj looked hella fine in the pic from the car

[idle meteor]

i’m pretty hype for it he’s proved he can do well in villain roles