Which pair of siblings have the best dynamic? | Marvel Discord | Page 1

near elmBOT May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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dawn knot May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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The brothers are iconic.

coarse ridge May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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The odinsons

normal relic May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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nat and yelena are actually amazing

high forum May 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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thor is so hot

rapid arrow May 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Get help

heady zinc May 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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thor and loki so iconic and easily had the best character development

brazen moat May 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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gotg is like really important to me 😭😭 wouldn’t go with anyone else

cedar shuttle May 19, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Thor and loki BESTTTT

urban badge May 19, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Thor and Loki were the most complex, plus they have the craziest back story

digital halo May 19, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Thor & Loki, easily

Gamora & Nebula are still pretty good though

Nat & Yelena suck

mortal olive May 19, 2024, 5:14 PM

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high forum thor is so hot

Your so not wrong

keen jewel May 19, 2024, 5:18 PM

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digital halo Thor & Loki, easily Gamora & Nebula are still pretty good though Nat & Yelen...

This

pale quail May 19, 2024, 5:23 PM

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Get help

keen jewel May 19, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Who, me?

short lark May 19, 2024, 5:26 PM

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Thor and Loki are just iconic

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Like their "get help" scene

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Forever great

slate berry May 19, 2024, 5:41 PM

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Why wouldn't anyone

median bolt May 19, 2024, 5:44 PM

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Thor and Loki any day

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But

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Gamora and Nebula were something else

zinc radish May 19, 2024, 5:54 PM

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All of these were great

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It's just

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Both of the other ones are sister x sister

sly walrus May 19, 2024, 5:54 PM

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Come on, what did you expect Loki

zinc radish May 19, 2024, 5:55 PM

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But this one has the brotherly bickering

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Which I love

zinc radish May 19, 2024, 6:00 PM

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zinc radish Which I love

"Get Help"

sly walrus May 19, 2024, 6:02 PM

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zinc radish "Get Help"

Peak

digital halo May 19, 2024, 6:05 PM

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keen jewel This

Glad we agree

digital halo May 19, 2024, 6:06 PM

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zinc radish "Get Help"

Ya get help was great

languid spear May 19, 2024, 6:34 PM

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ALL OF THEM

midnight jay May 19, 2024, 7:15 PM

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We all know why

high forum May 19, 2024, 7:22 PM

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I choose Thor and Loki, but I voted Gamora and Nebula just because their dynamic is way better than Nat and Yelena's

arctic reef May 19, 2024, 7:30 PM

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I love Gotg but Thor and Loki >>>>>

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:04 PM

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Idk what the point of Nat & Yelena retconned fake family even is

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At least Nebula and Gamora organically grew from their first appearance

autumn ridge May 19, 2024, 8:18 PM

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Because both of them don’t get along well but they do.

true herald May 19, 2024, 8:25 PM

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Because i love Yelena and Natasha and even those their dynamic is eh, i still love them so much

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:32 PM

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Nat and Yelena had like 1 movie

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Thor and Loki had a lot more time to develop and show

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:52 PM

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ocean gate Nat and Yelena had like 1 movie

Mcu managed many good dynamics in 1 movie. Thor/Rocket, Tony/Peter, Tony/Peter/Strange

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Unfortunately it often failed its female characters

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:53 PM

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digital halo Mcu managed many good dynamics in 1 movie. Thor/Rocket, Tony/Peter, Tony/Peter/S...

I disagree with most of those

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Tony and Strange were good

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:54 PM

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Ok. I'd take any of them over Nat & discount Nat tbh

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:54 PM

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I would too

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:54 PM

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Heck, even Carol/Monica/Kamala was better

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:54 PM

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ocean gate I would too

Oh ok

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:55 PM

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I just don’t think they’re good either

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:55 PM

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I think the dynamics generally improved since phase 3. 1 & 2 were quite lacking

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:55 PM

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ocean gate I just don’t think they’re good either

I guess we can agree to disagree there

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:55 PM

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Yup

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I do like Tony and Stephen

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Agreed

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I also liked Tony & Rhodey

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:56 PM

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Yeah I wish War Machine had more importance in the movies

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And in the comics ngl

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:56 PM

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That's why I'm looking forward to Armor wars

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I hope he shows up in Ironheart too

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:58 PM

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I hope those projects are actually done well

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I’m worried for ff 😔

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Idk I never liked ff so I'm more interested in it than I ever thought

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Pascal is the only actor who could make Reed likeable instead of an insufferable a-hole

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Idk about Sue though. She might still be boring

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 8:59 PM

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I like ff but the movies have done so badly with them in the past

digital halo May 19, 2024, 8:59 PM

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I agree the movies did fail them

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But I feel the comics themselves aren't that great so its hard for me to feel too bad

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I feel bad for their fans though

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Just not personally

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Galactus casting seems cool though

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:00 PM

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It seems like they’re cluttering the movie (ff) and it worries me a lot

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:00 PM

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I understand but at the same time, I think it might help them

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We've seen the origins twice

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They can skip that and give the main course right away

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:01 PM

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True ish

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I think they can mostly skip it but I still want them to like

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Mention it

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:01 PM

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Ya it's already well known enough we can skip

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I just want Sue to have an actual personality besides mom and wife

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Like strange said how they charted in the 60s so maybe they’re lost in time or something

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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Hahaha that was a good burn

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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That’s where we pick up and in one character monologue somewhere we hear about how Reed keeps screwing them over from Ben

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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I liked Krasinski as Reed tbh

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:02 PM

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ocean gate That’s where we pick up and in one character monologue somewhere we hear about h...

Lol

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I do like the actor they picked for Ben from the Bear

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:03 PM

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Like that’s not too bad of a thing for Ben to do since he’s kinda known for having tons of mixed feelings and complicated opinions on reeds

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:03 PM

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True

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:04 PM

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digital halo I liked Krasinski as Reed tbh

I like Krasinski as anything, I’m Krasinski bias

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:04 PM

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Understandable

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I enjoyed Jack Ryan too

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:04 PM

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One of the few actors I’m that way about

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I wanna see IF so bad

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:05 PM

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I like Pascal & Isaac in most of what I've seen

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:05 PM

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ocean gate I wanna see IF so bad

You planning to?

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:05 PM

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digital halo I do like the actor they picked for Ben from the Bear

He seems good but I haven’t seen anything with him

Is the Sue actress from that Hobbs and Shaw movie?
~~doesn’t give me high hopes in that regard~~

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:05 PM

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digital halo You planning to?

I mean yeah eventually

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:05 PM

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ocean gate He seems good but I haven’t seen anything with him Is the Sue actress from that...

She's been in some UK shows but I'm not familiar

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I wouldn't hold Hobbs & Shaw against her though. Idris Elba was in it too

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:06 PM

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I can’t wait to see Herbie

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:06 PM

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ocean gate I mean yeah eventually

On streaming?

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:06 PM

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ocean gate I can’t wait to see Herbie

I hope he looks exactly like he did in that art pic

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:06 PM

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digital halo On streaming?

Probably yeah

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:07 PM

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ocean gate Probably yeah

👍

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I can't say I'd rank F4 high ob my list of upcoming MCU projects. It's down there with Thunderbolts

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Avengers 5/6, Armor Wars, Agatha and Ironheart are higher

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:08 PM

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If Annihilus is the villain then it’s my most anticipated movie of all time

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:08 PM

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I think Galactus is

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They should keep annihilus for the next one

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Hmmmmmmm

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I dunno how I feel about that

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I didn’t think Annihilus would be it but still

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Galactus seems… odd

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Galactus is their 2nd most prominent enemy so I understand why they use him

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Iirc he was the first cosmic big bad in comics

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Before Darkseid & Thanos

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Exactly though

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It’s Doom or it’s Galactus

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Ya

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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I wanna see someth new

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Something special

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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I agree. I want new stuff too

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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I mean

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I do know that the last Galactus was…

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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But ironically that's probably why I'm not hyped for F4

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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Not even Galactus

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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ocean gate Not even Galactus

Exactly!

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:11 PM

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digital halo But ironically that's probably why I'm not hyped for F4

Galactus?

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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They want to do him better this time

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Galactus in general just kinda bores me

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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ocean gate Galactus?

Whoops, no. He's probably why I'm as interested as I am

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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Ohh I see

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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I meant the f4 in general being an old team of boring fuddy duddies (imo)

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:12 PM

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I wish Ronan and the Kree Skrull stuff wasn’t wasted

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Seeing Ben’s adopted kids eventually would’ve been cool

digital halo May 19, 2024, 9:13 PM

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I feel Kree fits Carol more but you never know. We could see Ben's kids at some point

ocean gate May 19, 2024, 9:13 PM

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I mean Kree stuff is Carol stuff

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But it’s also heavy in guardians, ff, and avengers

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They’re bigger than 1 movie imo

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It couldve been a whole phase with the Kree and secret invasion (done right tho)

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But they probably don’t wanna waste time with slow up moving things

vapid dune May 19, 2024, 9:22 PM

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Sorry not sorry I need my loki&thor duo again

fresh frost May 19, 2024, 10:52 PM

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I really love Nat and Yelena, I miss Natasha so much

calm apex May 19, 2024, 11:04 PM

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I find gamora and nebula sweeter

jolly vapor May 19, 2024, 11:34 PM

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No matter what they have each other back

digital halo May 20, 2024, 12:06 AM

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fresh frost I really love Nat and Yelena, I miss Natasha so much

While I don't miss her at all, I didn't like her death scene

honest cove May 20, 2024, 12:58 AM

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Who the hell is picking nat and yelena

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Even if you think yelena is a good character(shes not btw) thor and loki outclass them in every way

digital halo May 20, 2024, 1:24 AM

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Idk why people even like Yelena tbh.

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:02 AM

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yelena has good lore and she tells more about what happened in the red room in the movies she’s a solid character maybe not a great one but she still serves a purpose

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she also shows more of the human side of the black widow

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:04 AM

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Idk I thought her lore was a weak retcon for an already dead hero and her personality is just "extra quippy Nat" with a fake Russian accent

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Another powerless regretful spy is among the least inspired ideas imo

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I guess it didn't help that I didn't like either 2 projects she appeared in so far

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:05 AM

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her charter was very lazy put together but still it more gave nat a support in her charter

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:05 AM

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I don't think Nat needed that to begin with

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:05 AM

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and the assassins in the movies aren’t useless

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:05 AM

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What she needed was to be consistently fleshed out

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I didn't say useless. I just found them derivative and generic. More brainwashed kick/punch agents? I already saw that with Bucky

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:06 AM

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true

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:06 AM

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That bugged me

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:07 AM

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i think they give assassins in the comics more of a different kinda way of fighting and backstory

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:07 AM

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And tbh with how basic nat herself is, I don't think she could really make her own subfranchise

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:07 AM

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normal relic i think they give assassins in the comics more of a different kinda way of fight...

They should

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I feel Ghost in the MCU makes for a better agent than any BW

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:08 AM

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hee sub franchise would probably be about her part and more of the red room and how she got into SHIELD which i think is interesting but it’s not for everyone

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:08 AM

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digital halo I feel Ghost in the MCU makes for a better agent than any BW

yeah

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:09 AM

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It could be interesting if they don't make it too much like the other stuff. Iirc in the comics she has a more anti-corporate motivation (idk for sure though)

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I feel she doesn't work as a main Avenger and is better as a recurring one

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:09 AM

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i think it would have been better if the followed the comics to like how she could’ve been a super soldier or her relationship with bucky yk

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i personally love nat (scarlett johansson is hot) and the character is great in my opinion it’s not everyone’s taste i get that

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:11 AM

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I see

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That definitely could've helped

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:11 AM

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digital halo It could be interesting if they don't make it too much like the other stuff. Iir...

she did and it would’ve been better to see that on screen

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:11 AM

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normal relic she did and it would’ve been better to see that on screen

Agreed

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I would've definitely preferred if the Ant family was in the MCU Avengers team instead of her, but if they made her more like thr comics version, she still could've been a viable her

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Hero

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:13 AM

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yeah

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:14 AM

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Also not killing her off like that

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:14 AM

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i also think that they made thanos to OP in the movies and natasha could’ve had a bigger role in the grand scheme in the movies of obviously scarlett’s contract did expire but if they didn’t kill her off we could’ve seen more

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:14 AM

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digital halo Also not killing her off like that

it was dumb

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:15 AM

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I think no matter what, Nat wouldn't be useful against Thanos. Even Steve isnt

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:15 AM

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yeah

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:15 AM

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normal relic it was dumb

Exactly! She did for the worst Avenger

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Honestly few can stand up to Thanos

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

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she is still a normal human but she’s enhanced with training but not avenger maybe a front line agent in shield but not avengers level

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Exactly

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She works better on the side doing stuff like that

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

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digital halo Honestly few can stand up to Thanos

in the comic thanos was terrified of the hulk

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

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If they showed more of that it would be been cool

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:16 AM

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normal relic in the comic thanos was terrified of the hulk

Oh ya

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:17 AM

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digital halo She works better on the side doing stuff like that

yeah maybe like one that helps. on missions like in the captain america and the winter soldier age helped a lot but so did maria and nick but it would’ve been better if she worked like maria in front lines and close to fury

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:18 AM

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normal relic yeah maybe like one that helps. on missions like in the captain america and the...

Ya

normal relic May 20, 2024, 2:18 AM

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i gtg but it was nice chatting bye

digital halo May 20, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Ya let's chat again next time

upper kelp May 20, 2024, 2:46 AM

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As much as i love natasha and yelena thor and loki really are sibling-y

keen latch May 20, 2024, 2:47 AM

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Thorki obv. No doubt about it

high forum May 20, 2024, 2:57 AM

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"Let's do get help"

ocean summit May 20, 2024, 7:26 AM

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Thor and loki are just the more iconic (and in my opionon lovable) duo

zinc radish May 20, 2024, 3:20 PM

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ocean gate It seems like they’re cluttering the movie (ff) and it worries me a lot

I don’t know why they’re releasing ff less than two weeks after Superman

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It sounds like a really bad idea

vestal sierra May 20, 2024, 3:25 PM

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They had the Most Time On screen and In Continuity.
🤷🏻‍♂️

cedar shuttle May 20, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Natasha and Yelena were amazing

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But THOR ANF LOKI HITS DIFFERENT!!!

ocean gate May 20, 2024, 5:06 PM

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zinc radish I don’t know why they’re releasing ff less than two weeks after Superman

I didn’t even know that was happening

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Interesting

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No doubt Superman will at least a small cosmic element ||due to the possible Tyrant Sun thing?||

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So it’ll be interesting seeing 2 cosmic movies

zinc radish May 20, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Dunno what that is

ocean gate May 20, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Unless TS won’t be in it-

ocean gate May 20, 2024, 5:07 PM

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zinc radish Dunno what that is

What? ||Tyrant Sun?||

zinc radish May 20, 2024, 5:07 PM

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Ye

ocean gate May 20, 2024, 5:08 PM

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He’s in All Star Superman

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And uhhh

zinc radish May 20, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Oh

ocean gate May 20, 2024, 5:08 PM

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I’ll get more info real quick

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He’s in DC 1 Million too

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||”Solaris, also known as the Tyrant Sun, was created by Grant Morrison and first appeared in DC: One Million #1 in 1998 before Morrison brought the character back in All-Star Superman. He is from the 853rd century and is a secondary artificial sun, a sentient machine.”||

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There

zinc radish May 21, 2024, 2:08 AM

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👍

digital halo May 21, 2024, 3:57 AM

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Too bad we didn't get to see more of Wanda & Pietro

keen latch May 21, 2024, 4:02 AM

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digital halo Too bad we didn't get to see more of Wanda & Pietro

This is so true. But could they really beat thorki at being siblings

digital halo May 21, 2024, 4:03 AM

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Beat them? Idk

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Be 2nd best. Probably

keen latch May 21, 2024, 4:03 AM

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Yes probably

digital halo May 21, 2024, 4:05 AM

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Unfortunately they killed him off. For the worst Avenger no less

keen jewel May 21, 2024, 4:11 AM

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They killed off the only Jewish actor to play a Jewish character in the MCU

digital halo May 21, 2024, 4:28 AM

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Exactly for the Whitest guy they had

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Jewish representation in the mcu has been pretty weak

keen jewel May 21, 2024, 4:50 AM

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digital halo Jewish representation in the mcu has been pretty weak

It's insane how the MCU has (or had due to character death) at least seven Jewish actors that I know of, but none of their characters are Jewish

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Hank, Tony, Pepper, Jane, Natasha, The Grand Master, and Andrews Spider-Man

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Spider-Man could have an argument be made for him being Jewish in the comics (bc it's quite obvious he is, or at least was raised Jewish), but I don't think there are any references to it in the MCU/Andrews movies

keen latch May 21, 2024, 7:20 AM

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digital halo Unfortunately they killed him off. For the worst Avenger no less

Not the worst avenger. Clint Barton is the lucky charm of the Avengers. Whichever side he was on, that side won. Loki was winning until Natasha brought Clint back to their side away from sceptres influence.
Team Cap won after Clint joined them.
Avengers in infinitywar lost because clint was retired and under home arrest.
In endgame avengers won because thanos pissed clint off, thus motivating him to take up arms once again.

digital halo May 21, 2024, 1:30 PM

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That doesn't make him a good character. He's boring and all of his storylines were imo poorly done. I especially hated his Ronin storyline

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The "Clint on the winning side" is just a meme.

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All this talk about the New Assassin's Creed reminded me of Clint's cultural appropriation

#Which pair of siblings have the best dynamic?