#Which is your favourite America Chavez design?
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I liked the teen vibe of America in the movie :)) i havent read the comics tho, but to me she seemed like an actual teen
the comic version is more dynamic and looks cooler. Nothing wrong with the mcu version but it's kinda just there i guess
I just fw the comics more tbh, they gotta be careful with Speed’s design cause I’ll riot if they ruin it
idk why, i just like it more🤣
The MCU version had the misfortune of being in a badly written movie
She also hasn't had time to grow as a character
MoM was pretty much a Wanda movie, it focused on her more than Strange or Chavez
I like both but the MoM needed to be a bit brighter
from what i've seen of her, the comics version seems to act like a 20 something
damn
at least to me. i don't get teen vibes
the MoM felt more like a kid although was missing some of the comics versions powers
The MCU was so bland, like Deadpool's costume in Fox before MCU
America is missing the colours that make her Miss America
why would she need a mask?
I liked the mcu design
America in mcu has like yoga pants and a denim jacket
Which is cool for a day out ig
But comic superhero design better
Nice fits but they both look normal
the MCU version could definitely look a bit more 'superheroic'
She just looks nicer 🤷♂️
Because of its illustrations
Comics one is simply more colourful
Agreed
The mcu version just reminds me of my own style, i like it
tough one but MoM just had a more casual and clean design
hopefully next time we see chavez in the mcu she has an even better design though
i liked mcu america i just wish she was the same age as kate
I wish Kate didn't feel like a Karen
Agreed
I'm not sure how but maybe something looking less like regular clothes
Cuz if she had a superhero outfit in her first appearance then that wouldn’t make sense cuz she isn’t really a superhero when she is introduced in MoM
True
I did find Dr strange an odd choice to be her mentoe
Since her powers are more like Thor's
Magic is varied
She's still a flying brick in the comics like Thor or Captain marvel
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Don't like how faded the American flag pattern looks on the MCU jacket. Just my opinion.
It’s better
👍
Everything MCU is better. Sometimes the more simplistic the better. Doesn’t always have to be flashy. And also if she wear normal clothes like in MCU it’s more realistic. She’s just a kid at the time learning powers she ain’t gonna have a cool uniform.
Even out great leader @modest osprey agree

Please don't
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And please don't put words into my mouth
Not particularly lmao
Bro if she is a kid learning her power, she ain’t gonna have a cool uniform lol?
Hm ok
Also did you see my poll request? I did it ages ago and it’s still not been done
There's a backlog but we also don't take every single poll
But it was a good. It was who really led avengers iron man or captainAmerica
Because people always disagree over it
So I wanna see what people think
She only really cared about her own dad's death and falsely accused Swordsman while ignoring her hero's murder spree and was rude to Yelena. She felt somewhere between "talk to the manager" and "all lives matter." Didn't feel like someone who'd be friends with America
I wouldn't say everything the mcu does is better
i thought she dated america in the comics? i see where you’re coming from but no one knew he was ronin so she had no clue. the being mean to yelena thing was bc she tried to kill clint (justified).
Kate hasn't dated America, no
I'm pretty sure she's straight in the comics, or at least hasn't came out as LGBTQ+
she's ambiguous in the comics (it's not explicitly stated in any direction)
she's only ever dated guys however
but she's constantly surrounding herself with friends all in the LGBTQ+ community (everybody but her in the Young Avengers are, all the guys she's dated are, etc)
and it's a constant in-universe and irl joke that there's probably a reason behind that
I wouldn't be opposed to her being LGBTQ, but honestly I don't mind either way, as long as she continues being written well she could be an alien for all I care
If she is, I hope she's bi, but gets in an actual lesbian relationship. Specifically because most "bi" comic characters are just in heterosexual relationships and are never shown being bi
I'm sure there are a few that are shown being bi, but it's the minority
𝚄𝚗𝚜𝚞𝚛𝚎.
I’m right your wrong get over it

She told Yelena she was ok with people dying as long as the hero wins in the end. IMO that's awful. And when she discovered who Ronin was she barely cared. I didn't like her at all
the age difference between the 2 actresses is too big anyways
Wasn't Yelana around during the cold war
That makes her like forty smth compared to Kate's twenty two
That ship has too big of an age gap imo
I meant Kate and America (I think people ship those 2 together)
honestly i don't even want Yelena and Kate as a team. Kate was rude and their "humor" toegether was childish
but anyways, back to discussing America
in the comics they're closer in age
idk if anyone ships these 2 in the mcu
nonetheless if they did it would be creepy
but honestly the actress they got for Kate Bishop, good as she is, is too old for the role
they should all rougly be Kamala's/America's age
i don't think they need to be a couple either but tbh i barely even care about couples in comics
MCU synergy can be good or bad (look at what happened to Kamala in the MCU)
MCU Kamala fucked with Comics Kamala so much, I don't like her death, I don't like that she's a mutant. She's still one of my favorite characters though
And Wanda
They changed her entire backstory in the comics to fit with the MCU
idk wanda wasn't treated well in the comics either for a decade before the MCU
tbh I'm glad she's not Magneto's duaghter
That's true, but AvX fucked her character up so much
It was one of, if not the worst Marvel event ever
Same with Civil War
Talking about Civil War, the only reason Civil War 2 happened was because of the MCU
I don't like civil war much either
i didn't like the message or how it made the pro-reg side fascists without any nuance to the subject
it was just another excuse to keep up that status quo
It could have been a good story if they hadn't done so much character assassination
Like with Tony
the x-comics treat Scarlet witch terribly. imagine making an actual minority the scapegoat for ongoing fake persecution of a fake minority
that was awful. and tbh the pro-reg side has a point but Marvel refused to address it.
honestly
the movie was better but still a mess
i refuse to believe these lifelong friends and colleagues would do this to each other
i honestly don't even read many comics with the whole 'secret id/fighting crime business' or much x-comics because of this nonsense
I bet you there are people who will defend stuff like that
I've seen people defend Kitty Pryde for saying slurs
it's disappointing
ewww
me too, the comics one just seems a bit more flashy (in a good way)
She is a WHITE JEWISH LADY saying the N WORD
How can you defend that and look yourself in the mirror??
and tbh with the whole secret id business: do these fans really think a world full of unaccountable masked ubermensch taking the law into their own hands wouldn't result in brutality and violence, especially towards minorities!?
ikr! i know it was 40+ years ago but it was wrong even then
You can like characters and say they've done horrible things
not to mention Logan Whitespalining raicism to Luke Cage
definitely
I mean I know some people may be scared of heros
Kitty is one of my favorite X-Men, but I admit that stuff was fucked up
What
I mean x men 3 was gonna be directed by Bryan
But someone else got the directors chair and changed the story
i'd be concerned if i lived in a world where they never reveladed themselves or are held acocuntable
ya brett Ratner
I’d help them out
i would because irl people who take the law into their own hands are usually dangerous
so add superpowers to that
i'd prefer if they at least held each other accountable
and having to tell my family what happened
Or make an excuse
I mean you know what happens when someone’s identity is revealed
i mean, we've seen recent examples (like those lunatics in NYC a few weeks ago)
Oh
if anything, i'd prefer to see Spidey and DD fight those giys
I mean won’t be long before someone does it and goes too far
those are the kinds of villains they should go up against more IMO
oh defnitely, in fact the USA already has a bad history of this
Ooof