What should happen to the MCU after Avengers: Secret Wars?

[golden imp]

The MCU will die if it keeps doing what it's doing, a full reboot or soft reboot are it's best options

[opal crown]

It should probably get a small reboot, but I don’t think restarting from scratch is a good idea

[sly skiff]

I think the best option is a soft reboot so they can keep new characters like Deadpool and the Fantastic Four, revisit old characters like Captain America and Iron Man and bring in new characters like the X men and Ghost rider

[coral dragon]

Or they could just... hire better writers, which has been the center of their problem.

[golden imp]

The writing is an issue, yes, but so it having to watch 100+ hours of TV so you can understand one movie

[dreamy wren]

hopefully stop this madness

or a well planned reboot

[junior dew]

honestly I feel like they need to wipe the slate clean

[coral dragon]

That's just the consequence of having a mass continuity across multiple projects. The exact same thing applies to the movies of all phases. It's not a problem, and one that, even if it were, wouldn't be solved by rebooting the continuity.

[golden imp]

What they're doing with the F4 is probably the best idea they've had in recent years

[winter steppe]

Screw it, modern MCU is meh. Whould be much more interesting to see entirely new stories

[junior dew]

I would prefer they start again but without the constant jokes

[deep granite]

both

I would say both

[dreamy wren]

they don't have the budget for both

[deep granite]

soft reboot to have teams such as X-Men and F4 here the entire time

[junior dew]

why can’t they just follow Gunn’s example and go for a more serious story

[deep granite]

while still keeping the old continuity intact kinda

just drastically different in specific aspects

[junior dew]

yeah

[dreamy wren]

and the average joe wouldn't be able to follow two separate universes with the same characters

[golden imp]

The current MCU is a mess, it's like a spaghetti of connected movies and shows - it's all tangled up and adding to it only makes it worse

[junior dew]

also revive some old characters that are dead for new stories

[deep granite]

hell no

Iron man stays dead

[golden imp]

Putting it in an alternate universe

[coral dragon]

...which is a solely a consequence of shitty writing and directorship/management.

[junior dew]

if we’re doing a reboot then what’s the point of keeping him dead

ironheart fuckin sucks

who else would replace him

[deep granite]

you know Iron Lad exists right

[coral dragon]

If Marvel wants to be successful, shoot Disney in the fucking head and remove them from the equation.

[plush pebble]

soft reboot
continue some characters and stories, major stuff like iron man and thanos stay the way they are, but this way they can have like mutants always being a thing

[junior dew]

I would rather they stop pining for the “new generation” and just revive him

[coral dragon]

Iron Lad isn't an Iron Man replacement and never in a good comic has he been.

[deep granite]

exactly

[golden imp]

And rebooting would fix the problem, even if its just a soft reboor

Reboot*

[deep granite]

keep the continuity somewhat intact

[junior dew]

I would rather we just start all over

[deep granite]

I never said he was a replacement but it’s the second best thing

[coral dragon]

Not if the exact same people are still working on everything, which they would be if the only proposed change is a continuity reboot.

[junior dew]

marvel as a comic book company has done it multiple times anyways

[coral dragon]

Except he's not, at all. He's extremely far removed from Iron Man.

[golden imp]

Then reboot it and change the writers, fix everything

[coral dragon]

He's far more associated with the Young Avengers and even then never served an Iron Man-like role.

[golden imp]

A reboot is still the best choice for the future

[junior dew]

we have to start all over so we can have a bigger lineup of characters like the x-men and all that

plus so we can actually see a faithful recreation of Secret Invasion and other stuff like that

[deep granite]

I don’t know nor do I care much anymore

marvel can do whatever they want

[coral dragon]

But again, if legitimately talented and dedicated writers and directors are put on to future projects, a reboot would not be necessary.

[deep granite]

they have all the money to do so

[deep granite]

especially since Disney is their sugar daddy

[junior dew]

Plus we could possibly get more movies or tv shows showcasing the avengers more often as a premier fighting force

[coral dragon]

Except not really. Both Marvel and it's parent Disney are BLEEDING money from all their failed projects and they're hurting bad from it.

[uncut pasture]

I honestly don't know what would be the better decision? Because storywise definitely the reboot but in the meta it probably won't be good for Disney to do that because it'd basically be a self report on how destroyed everything is right now, like the DCEU

[deep granite]

womp womp

[golden imp]

I don't see how that'd fix the tangled mess of a continuity they have right now

[junior dew]

the snyderverse getting rebooted was a good decision and marvel should follow suit

[golden imp]

Exactly

[uncut pasture]

Absolutely

[junior dew]

only thing is a lot of actors and directors are alienated from marvel because it’s recently been regurgitated slop

[deep granite]

I feel like all this complicated shit would be less of a mess if marvel just took a break

[coral dragon]

They don't need to. They're similarly in a Star Wars situation. The prequels sucked but they still made movies and shows afterwards, some of which (ex. Andor) were very good and incredibly successful.

[deep granite]

they should’ve took a break immediately after endgame

to actually cook

[uncut pasture]

Yes absolutely. I'm just saying it'd be embarassing and look bad if they did because they'd basically be self reporting on how fcked they are

[deep granite]

instead of pumping out even more projects

[golden imp]

They did fix the continuity errors in the prequels with comics and TV shows though

[junior dew]

I mean a little bit of embarrassment is a good trade off compared to being able to start all over again with the knowledge and criticism on what to do better

[golden imp]

They do need to fix the MCUs mess

[coral dragon]

The comics and most shows sucked, and they were doing retcons, not entire reboots.

[deep granite]

weird how marvel is going through the rough patch now while DC is doing pretty dam fine

when it was originally the other way around

[golden imp]

Then suggest retcons don't say that the MCU doesn't have to fix its mess. And like I said originally, a reboot would fix all of that mess WITHOUT fucking stuff up with retcons

[coral dragon]

DC isn't doing well at all either.

Quite literally every comic they're putting out is sucking and bombing hard.

[junior dew]

again, because they decided to wipe the slate clean. The only reason it’s doing well right now is because it isn’t releasing anything

[deep granite]

I don’t mean comics

[golden imp]

We're talking about TV not comics lmao

[deep granite]

I mean film wise..

[junior dew]

it’s only doing good in comparison to the trash that was the snyderverse

[coral dragon]

Why would I suggest retcons? I never gave any indication they were well executed in Star Wars 🤣

[deep granite]

it’s in better shape than marvel on the big screen rn despite them not even releasing a single film yet

[coral dragon]

Yeah and all the recent DC films suck. Literally the only good project I can think of from them is The Batman.

[deep granite]

under their DC studios brand

[golden imp]

Because how else is the MCU going to fix its mess...? You used Star Wars as an example of not having to fix its continuity but Star Wars actually did. I don't get your point

[mellow escarp]

No one wants a reboot

[golden imp]

I do

[deep granite]

I don’t care what they do

[coral dragon]

My point was that they didn't have to do an entire reboot to still make good and clearly profitable projects, which is true, though few 'cause Disney is run by fucking dimwits.

My mention of retcons at all was just correcting you 'cause you said they fixed continuity errors which didn't help your point when arguing for an entire reboot.

[deep granite]

just hope they make the right decision

[golden imp]

Soft or hard idc, they need to fix the continuity

[coral dragon]

Soft or hard? 🤨

[golden imp]

It does help my point though...? I'm saying that the reboot is the only way to fix the continuity without fucking things up. Retcons fixed Star Wars, but like I said, retcons would fuck stuff up even more like they did in Star Wars

[deep granite]

Idk why y’all worrying tho

[coral dragon]

Yeah but retcons are fundamentally functionally different from entire reboots.

And it's important to consider that "retcons" can include making entire projects non-canon

[deep granite]

DC bought out marvel remember

[coral dragon]

Even if that were true, DC would run Marvel into the ground anyway just like they're doing to themselves.

[deep granite]

Idk man

my pookie, my glorious, glorious king Zack Snyder

will save them.

[sick dove]

I have a feeling those polls are not well thought through.

I would love to stick with previous (not current at all) actors and characters. It would be nice, if it would continue but I would love a canon MCU animated line-up. For example I would love to see rdj come back as iron man but I don't want the same story in an alternative way.

[ebon estuary]

That's actually so true I didn't think about it like thay

But at the same time this universe just isn't interesting anymore and I'd like to see something new

[river flame]

It’s a tough choice

I see nice things on both sides

[coral dragon]

^

[agile sage]

No reboot!

[buoyant haven]

And I also see ugly things on every side

[dusky crypt]

soft reboot

Just keep The defenders and we’re good

(except iron fist)

[fringe zealot]

I don’t feel like a reboot will go well

I would stay in the same universe, focus on different characters

[deep granite]

I want my man Tony

[serene ether]

I want the old gang back cl bc the sad thing is that they never gonna all be in one movie again, all I'm saying is we NEED rdj bck for iron man 😤

[last vapor]

There's no reason to really reboot it ngl. Kinda designed to continuously rotate characters

Some projects are good, some are bad. That's how it's always been and how it always will be

[novel matrix]

No you dont

Tonys death was best thing endgame did, dont ruin it by bringing him back, and shut up about “its just a cameo”

[tame musk]

Idk abt having new characters tbh

Bc all of the generic blatant ideas for superheroes are already taken so the new ones would have weird abilities

[gilded quest]

With a reboot, they could recast and use different actors. It's hard to tell if Tom Holland wants to keep acting in the MCU. If he wants to stop a reboot would be a good excuse to recast.

[cerulean kestrel]

anything between a hard and soft reboot works

[cerulean kestrel]

what about the mcu's own version of the xmen?

[open pelican]

I think the MCU should continue as it is, but they should have more standalone films. Not every film needs to weave into a bigger story.

[deep granite]

I don’t want a cameo, I want tony. I’m not an iron man Stan, but mcu has fell off since then.

[ebon estuary]

dude it didn't fall off cause iron man is gone

it fell off cause the movies are shit

tired of people wanting to revive dead characters

it eliminates all stakes

[golden imp]

It'd be more comic accurate if they did revive people...

Which isn't a good thing in this case

[ebon estuary]

doesn't translate to film

[elfin ginkgo]

maybe reboot but like instead of starting from the bottom again they jus say "a mutant was there" or "now ff exist" with some scenes to show ofc

and then they start off where they left off