#Should Riri (Ironheart) carry on Tony’s legacy?
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trim forge
i'm really looking forward to seeing more Riri
it's a fair argument that she didn't get much to do in BP2, so i'm looking forward to seeing her take the spotlight in her own show
but she definitely needs to forge her own path and not just be in Tony's shadow
vestal mason
She can be her own person not Iron Man's legacy
noble cove
Fuck off Ironheart
tropic iron
i would like to see her carry tony's legacy but yea i want her to be her own person too and not just be in tony's shadow
copper gale
Peter Parker should find a way to take up after Tony
copper gale
Sorry but Peter deserve better than Iron heart. But I think Iron heart need to go on she own way
copper gale
Sorry but Peter deserve better than Iron heart. But I think Iron heart need to g...
You mean into oblivion?
harsh stream
She and Rhodey should be the legacy
hard kiln
Cheadle is better
agreed
bro terrance was terrible imo
correction: he was good in the first iron man, but would've been terrible in the later movies imo
ionic frigate
noble cove
I hate her backstory and how she’s a plot device in Wakanda Forever
harsh stream
Eh I thought her backstoey was ok
She didn't really need to be in WF but she didn't hurt it
Idk I find the IH hate excessive sometimes
hard thorn
Give her like a few years and we'll see
she definitely has potential
can't wait to actually see her do stuff ngl
noble cove
She didn't really need to be in WF but she didn't hurt it
I could be fine with plot devices sometimes but I found her implementation really bad. She’s in this plot because she built a fully functional Vibranium detector without using Vibranium to test if it even worked but it absolutely does work 100% to the point where she was able to sell her revolutionary Vibranium detector machine to the CIA, and she created this revolutionary Vibranium detector in two months for a school project?? And this has lead Namor to send the Wakandans to kill her and they were going to when they were under the assumption that she was a professor at MIT but for some reason them finding out she’s a student changes everything and they’re fully on board with protecting her to the point of causing war between them and Talocan. I disagree with her not being needed for Wakanda Forever because her creating the Vibranium detector is what sets everything in motion, it’s just her implementation that sucks
harsh stream
I guess because they're not inhuman people who want to see a young woman get killed?
Also where does it say a vibranium detector needs vibranium
noble cove
I guess because they're not inhuman people who want to see a young woman get kil...
I’m fine with not wanting to kill someone. But what I’m trying to highlight is that Shuri & Okoye were fine with it when they were under the assumption that this inventor was a professor
If you wanna have a moral compass about not killing people shouldn’t that just apply to people in-general? She’s studying not teaching shit, I guess we can’t kill her anymore
noble cove
Also where does it say a vibranium detector needs vibranium
You would definitely need Vibranium when creating a Vibranium detector to be able to even test if your machine works and you’d probably need Vibranium to learn where to even begin building a machine like that and not like a shard, you would probably need lots of it
harsh stream
I’m fine with not wanting to kill someone. But what I’m trying to highlight is t...
I thought it was because they didn't trust outside academics.
harsh stream
You would definitely need Vibranium when creating a Vibranium detector to be abl...
I mean, it's not exactly a consistent science
noble cove
I just find it absurd imo
And also it’s kind of absurd to me that for some reason of all things she could’ve chosen to build for her school project, she chose to build a Vibranium detector of all things?
And two months. Goddamn.
Being able to build something like a fully functional metal detector when you don’t even know what metal is and don’t have any metals to use, in two months. Jesus Christ, when I was watching Wakanda Forever I was almost convinced that they wanted me to believe she’s got some sort of superpowers like Reed Richards and that’s why she’s so insanely smart
harsh stream
I don't see how that's any crazier than any other super genius
balmy sigil
I love ironheart, the run of those with courage is my favorite comic of her and I thought she was funny in the movie
noble cove
I don't see how that's any crazier than any other super genius
It’s her history and how nonchalantly she does all of this.
For example, let’s compare her to Iron Man. His big invention, I think everyone can agree is the Iron Man suit and then we ask how did we get to that point. Well he’s the son of a prestigious bloodline that has a long history of being involved with science & technology, he’s incredibly rich giving him loads of resources & tech, because he’s super rich he was sent to the best schools & universities, he’s worked & ran Stark Industries giving him loads of first-hand experience in working in both science, technology & business, he had help from another genius named Yinsen and he had to be placed under a literal kidnapping & life or death situation to be able to do what he did
Ironheart… is an MIT student who did all of this for a school project
trim forge
there's certainly some lore there with the red corvette(?) that Riri has as a memory of her dad
feel like that's something they'll hopefully dig deeper into
there's also an argument to be had that this is like 17 years after Tony built his first suit - irl at universities you can build technology that would far surpass the capabilities of the original iPhone (also roughly 17 years old today), so it doesn't feel so wildly imaginative to figure that a smart-enough college student with enough interest and resources could build something of similar capabilities
noble cove
there's certainly some lore there with the red corvette(?) that Riri has as a me...
I vaguely remember that, I think it was something like how Riri was either repairing or taking apart the car when she was like 3 or whatever? But even with that, I still find it absurd that you could build a fully functioning Vibranium detector when you don’t even know what Vibranium is and you don’t have any access to it
noble cove
there's also an argument to be had that this is like 17 years after Tony built h...
Sure but IRL collage students today would know what the first iPhone was and thus could build something akin to it. Which is not the same as to what Riri did with the Vibranium detector machine she made
trim forge
having personal experience in the university research space, there's a lot of resources and technology out there that drive a lot of research forward
many groundbreaking research discoveries come from universities
and we don't really know much about the worldbuilding of the MCU, and it's totally plausible that research has been done into vibranium and other tools and resources that Riri could have hypothetically used
noble cove
many groundbreaking research discoveries come from universities
I haven’t been to university before I doubt we can ask someone to build a metal detector when it had never been done before and that person wouldn’t even know what metal is or have any access to it
trim forge
and yes, vibranium isn't publicly accessible in their universe, but neither are many unstable and rare elements in our very own universe, yet people are still able to research and sometimes eventually obtain/discover these materials
noble cove
and we don't really know much about the worldbuilding of the MCU, and it's total...
Given how much the Wakandans are protective of Vibranium. I highly doubt that in my opinion
trim forge
not sure if you fully grasp the concept of research in this context - if people were fully restricted by not being able to physically obtain materials/entities/etc to study, research would still be quite a few decades behind where we are today
Wakandans are protective of vibranium, but that doesn't mean people can't still research its properties
noble cove
not sure if you fully grasp the concept of research in this context - if people ...
It’s not just about not being able to obtain the material, it’s also about not knowing anything about the material
trim forge
you know that the study of the outer reaches of the universe is entirely based on mathematics and very clever calculations of what are very often extremely blurry images
and people do know some things about the material, including Captain America's rather public shield, and since 2018, Wakanda has also been more public with their resources (even if a lot of it is only for people to observe and not use)
I most certainly would consider research into vibranium plausible
and even if there isn't much to go off, when has that ever stopped researchers irl?
noble cove
Fair enough, I guess I don’t understand enough about the subject to make a determination about what is and isn’t scientifically possible
trim forge
Research (irl) is very often fueled by the interest and desire to learn and study more about something unknown, and that's what drives a lot of researchers to dig into what they discuss in their papers
it's a very interesting field
personally it's not one I'm most fond of being involved in myself, but I've had experience