How many of the Disney+ shows have you watched?

[woven plinth]

Which has been your favourite so far?

[fallen jetty]

first

[chrome basin]

Basically every new mcu show except echo

[fallen jetty]

may not have been first vote but first chat

[snow jackal]

I didn't watch the groot show but I watched everything else

I enjoyed most of them

[glacial wedge]

Only ones I have yet to watch is What If S2, Loki S2 & Echo

[fallen jetty]

Only shows I’ve not watched are Echo, last episode of Moon Knight and Loki S2

All the rest are amazing

[snow jackal]

You should definitely watch them

Loki S2 is great

[fallen jetty]

I am Groot is good

[snow jackal]

I think Echo is good too

[fallen jetty]

Just shame that it’s without speech

[snow jackal]

ok i wasn't sure about it tbh

[fallen jetty]

Very short episodes so you should watch if you’ve got a few minutes Ykwim

[fallen jetty]

I’ve heard. Gonna watch it within the next few weeks

[snow jackal]

yeah

[fallen jetty]

Got a test week coming up tho so I’ve got very little time to right now

[snow jackal]

oh dang

[rough sapphire]

Watched She-Hulk, Echo, Moon Knight and some of Wandavision but haven't had much interest in the others tbh

[snow jackal]

Loki was definitely good

[fallen jetty]

Reminds me I’ve got to rewatch she hulk cuz I fell asleep during it, alongside ms marvel

[vestal slate]

What show is the picture the pill used from?

[silk orbit]

I didn’t really care about moon knight

[rough sapphire]

I only started watching She-Hulk for Daredevil but it really grew on me and I loved it a lot

[fallen jetty]

Fair enough

I’m interested in gods so that’s the only reason I watched most of it

Plus my mom has bipolar and my dad has schizophrenia so it’s like I’m watching their view of things sometimes Ykwim

[fallen jetty]

I’m not really keen on the animation, but the first two episodes were decent

[vestal slate]

She hulk was decent overall but it could have gone without the last episode

[solid lichen]

I was able to stay on top of it for a long time but I can only watch shows with the same plot structure and tone for so long

[mighty lion]

Does this include all of disney or just MCU?

[gaunt cipher]

Hardcore marvel community is going to be crying right now 😂

[snow jackal]

I really enjoyed Moon Knight

although its CGI & Jewish representation needed to be better

but Isaac did some of the best MCU acting

imo it's the best new hero solo introduction since IM1

[calm geode]

I think only ones I didn't watch were WandaVision and Echo. My favorite from what I've watched is Loki

[stark elbow]

Why so? Lol

[calm geode]

Oh and also I didn't watch MK

[stark elbow]

I’d say my favorites I’ve seen are Loki and WandaVision

[frozen ivy]

Loki for sure

[fickle crater]

Haven't watched Loki S2 yet, nor have I watched Echo

But my favorite is Moon Knight

[gaunt cipher]

People were talking about she hulk being good

[fickle crater]

I loved that one

[gaunt cipher]

The community at large hated she- hulk

[fickle crater]

Yeah and I don't really get why

[gaunt cipher]

Not saying that I do, just what I’ve seen

[fickle crater]

People also say they hate Brie Larson and I once again don't know why

[snow jackal]

Idk why

[snow jackal]

I'd definitely recommend it

[bitter summit]

I’m catching up on phase four stuff which includes a lot of tv shows so I’d say I have seen about half of them

[eternal hound]

Hawkeye.

[barren finch]

My favorites are WV and Loki (because AoS isnt a D+ show)

[shadow veldt]

I think it needed more actual Moon Knight fight scenes.

and not a Kaiju fight.

But Khonsu looked great overall, and I enjoyed watching it.

[snow jackal]

I understand why people didn't like that

For me, I enjoyed the cutaway because it put me in Marc's PoV

[exotic star]

My favourite was Loki or wandavision

[snow jackal]

For me it's Loki > MK > WV > Echo > what if > She Hulk > Ms Marvel > SI > FaWS > Hawkeye

Atm

[white spindle]

I love how so many people here wrote a lot of them

[quiet dragon]

my favorite what man

i didnt even watched disney+ shows

[shell pine]

Ms marvel and loki was definitely my fav

[ancient bronze]

Ive seen pretty much all of them

Finished echo yesterday

Enjoyed it a lot

Loki is by far my favorite but I enjoyed most of them

[winter musk]

Loki and Moon Knight

[hexed gale]

Just haven’t watched all of what if bc I lowkey hate it, and Echo, although I’m planning to start it soon

[hexed gale]

Jewish rep?

[radiant kite]

Mandolorian

[snow jackal]

Fans from the comics said they didn't show enough of his Jewish background

[snow jackal]

Me too

They did good with Maya as a character

[hexed gale]

huh, alright

[snow jackal]

I haven't read his comics nyself

[hot shoal]

The Falcon and the winter soldier, Loki, and Moon Knight were my mains. I’ve watched I think almost all of them and it was part of my watching the MCU in order last year and the year before. I kinda lagged in 2022 with it (watching it in timeline order) since I had to watch the first Thor and it was so boring so I decided to finish it in 2023 and I did so yay lol.

[lost radish]

Yeah depending on the writer it is or isn't emphasized, in recent runs it's more important and serves as a very interesting facet of his character, but based on the current run I' not sure how well they could implement it into the show

[dawn thorn]

Haven't watched Secret Invasion and the Guardians Holiday Special

[snow jackal]

I liked them both

[snow jackal]

I liked FaWS but I had a lot of issues with it

[snow jackal]

Ohh I see

[white hazel]

my favourites were hawkeye and loki. I didn’t like loki season 1 as much but season 2 made me like the show a lot more. also idk if daredevil counts but I really liked it as well.

[somber dragon]

I'm pretty sure I've seen them all. I still have an episode of Echo left to finish.

I think Loki was the best, followed by Hawkeye.

[snow jackal]

I thought Hawkeye was the absolute worst

Loki was top tier though

In a way it's too bad we only get 2 seasons but I understand why

[raven birch]

enjoyed Loki the most as well as Hawkeye and echo

[serene mesa]

I've enjoyed "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier", "Loki", and "What If".

[pallid copper]

Loki and What If has been the best so far

[devout comet]

Wanda Vision, Loki and What if are my A list

[solid lichen]

I'd agree with that

[snow jackal]

👍

[solid lichen]

Moon Knight's Jewish heritage isn't often too essential to his stories but if you're gonna show his backstory you ought to emphasise his Jewish heritage because it indirectly leads to him becoming Moon Knight

[pine schooner]

watching almost all of them is crazy

[somber dragon]

I've been working from home since March 2020, pandemic stuff. I just watch them on my 11" iPad on my desk as I work. If they're good, I later rewatch with full attention later on my big TV and surround system.

Nice way to make the work day feel shorter

[pine schooner]

very reasonable actually

[subtle hull]

Moon knight was my favorite because of how it explores a neurodivergent hero

a very apparently neurodivergent hero

[viral pilot]

coming here literal minutes after finishing echo’s finLe

finale*

meaning i’ve watched all shows

[waxen sage]

She Hulk

Nah I'm kidding

[terse owl]

The only one I haven't seen is I Am Groot S2

Hawkeye and WandaVision are my favorites

[carmine mountain]

That's a really easy 15 minute binge ngl

[terse owl]

TBH I just never watched S2 cuz I found S1 so lame

[gilded briar]

Yeah I have watched quite a few. Till she hulk. Then I bailed. I had hope until I decided it's not worth it. Also I'm quite busy for it.

[sullen iron]

I love Loki,,,,,,,

[hot shoal]

Care to list any? Lol

[terse owl]

The villainization of Walker even though he did nothing wrong

The added backstory to Sharon Carter

Them trying to make Karli sympathetic even though she's evil

Them weakening Bucky's intelligence and proficency

[hot shoal]

Those are actually good reasons.

[untold barn]

i missed echo

[snow jackal]

Sam and Bucky were a bit petty. Sam is suddenly all about peace when in Civil war he was belligerent. He also backtracks his one decision he made without Steve's approval. They disliked John and Lemar before they got to know them but at the end they're all cool. Also killing off Lemar. Karli was underdeveloped. And John isn't as bad of a guy as say Clint Barton when it comes to brutality

I liked the message of the show, some of the humor, and the subplot with the Bradleys

I didn' t like Sharon being evil becuase the MCU didn't know what to do with her

Zemo was good (as usual)

[mellow nest]

Their all bad

I watched wandavision, fatws, loki s1, and what if s1
All were garbage and made me quit loving the mcu as i did

The follow up to those being the equally terrible black widow, MoM, and nwh

Gotg3 is the only good thing to come out of the mcu since infinity war

[hot shoal]

Yeah the killing of Lamar was a bit unnecessary. Yeah John wasn’t that bad but he still had something about him that I didn’t like lol.

[snow jackal]

especially in a show about how Black superheroes are mistreated

they kill the Black best friend. Like, really>

[mellow nest]

Walker is the only good character to come out of phase 4

[snow jackal]

phase 4 has many good characters

[mellow nest]

Please name them

Namor is the only one to come close

[snow jackal]

shang-chi, kang, ms marvel, echo, ms america (potentially), Namor

[mellow nest]

Mid, didnt watch quantumania or ms marvel or hawkeye, who?, valid

[snow jackal]

Shang-chi was better than most of the phase 1 heroes in their debuts imo

Ms Marvel was not in quantumania. She had her own show

Ms America was in Multiverse of Madness

[mystic pulsar]

you liked secret invasion?

[snow jackal]

Most of it. It wasn't an accurate adaptation and the ending was rushed

But I like any Fury + Talos stuff

[mystic pulsar]

How did you feel about Hill's death?

[snow jackal]

It's far from my favorite though

[mystic pulsar]

or did you just not really care about her

[snow jackal]

Hill was wasted in the mcu. It felt a bit tacked on but I didn't hate it

[mystic pulsar]

yeah she was

[snow jackal]

It more felt the end of wasted opportunity

[snow jackal]

Exactly

[mystic pulsar]

she's such a pivotal character in the comics

[snow jackal]

Old mcu wasted most of its female characters

[snow jackal]

She wasn't even in civil war

[mystic pulsar]

yeah that was so crazy

[snow jackal]

But tbh while cw did some things better than the comic version, I don't love that movie

[mystic pulsar]

One of the most important characters for Civil War wasn't in the film

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

true

[snow jackal]

Yeah especially Janet van Dyne

[mystic pulsar]

black widow could've been good if the mcu cared about her

[snow jackal]

Yeah

Too bad she was poorly used

[mystic pulsar]

Janet was shafted so hard

it's abysmal

[snow jackal]

Ikr

Ant Man 1 is a way less good adaptation than Secret Invasion imo

Janet and Hank aren't old

[mystic pulsar]

I was reading an avengers comic and she seemed to be the second in command

i'm not sure what her exact role was

but she was giving orders and stuff

[snow jackal]

Yeah I think she replaced Steve as chair foe a whole

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

exactly

hank was TOO old

[snow jackal]

When fans talk about "dissing the source materoal" but forget her, I don't trust them

[snow jackal]

Hank Jan & Hope should switch ages with May & Peter

In thr mcu

[mystic pulsar]

I understand that having Hank old, meant that in the 80s or 70s, we had another superhero roaming about, which is cool I guess, but Hank Pym didn't even have a hand in Ultron's creation

[mystic pulsar]

LOL

[snow jackal]

80s thing didn't even really happen until what if s2

And Ultron lost what made him unique in AoU

[mystic pulsar]

yup

[snow jackal]

Mcu Ultron was carried by Spader's acting

[mystic pulsar]

before that, there were only fan speculations

[snow jackal]

Yeah

That's why I liked ep2

2 ant men, black Panther, and no black widow or Hawkeye around

[mystic pulsar]

true

[mystic pulsar]

LOL

[snow jackal]

Yeah he became just another evil robot

He started off menacing

[mystic pulsar]

Unfortunately

[snow jackal]

Then lost it

[mystic pulsar]

yup

really disappointing when they do that with their characters or films

start off good

[snow jackal]

That's why i don't miss that era that much

[mystic pulsar]

then lose the quality as they go on

[snow jackal]

Yea

[mystic pulsar]

lol understandable

[snow jackal]

Plus quicksilver was wasted

[mystic pulsar]

that was like, Phase 2 or so

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

Ant-Man, Age of Ultron

[snow jackal]

Yeah 2015 wasn't my favorite mcu year

I didn't like either movie

[mystic pulsar]

lol

[mystic pulsar]

The Quicksilver thing has been mentioned so much

and it's understandable

[snow jackal]

Ikr

[mystic pulsar]

he really was wasted

[snow jackal]

I liked him in thr movie

[mystic pulsar]

some say that he would've ended conflicts too quickly

[snow jackal]

Even though he was underdeveloped

Not really

He's not that powegil

Anymore than Captain Marvel is

[mystic pulsar]

and while that may be true, I do believe the real reason was the rights issue

[snow jackal]

Or Hulk

Super speed isn't "instantly solve" like some fans act

[mystic pulsar]

Some say Captain Marvel was left out of the majority of Endgame because she was too powerful lol

[snow jackal]

I mean, he can't beat someone who can fly, or become intangible

[mystic pulsar]

yeah

[snow jackal]

Thanos still beat her

[mystic pulsar]

true

[snow jackal]

The problem is not understanding how these powers work

They can cancel each other put

[mystic pulsar]

Makes sense

[snow jackal]

Yeah

We need more fights like that

[mystic pulsar]

the filmmakers just need to understand how to utilize them

[snow jackal]

Exactly

[mystic pulsar]

Imo, Vision was underused

[snow jackal]

Like the Infinity war battle on Titan

[snow jackal]

Big issue in phases 2 & 3

[mystic pulsar]

the infinity stones?

[snow jackal]

Vision is great

[mystic pulsar]

or Doctor Strange's abilities?

[snow jackal]

That and the team combining their abilities

[snow jackal]

That too

[mystic pulsar]

yeah the various and distinct attacks made that entire fight enjoyable

[snow jackal]

Oddly I think ant Man & the wasp had good power match ups

[mystic pulsar]

it wasn't like they were all spamming their lasers at him

[snow jackal]

Exactly

Civil War airport fight too for the most part

[mystic pulsar]

Thanos had a gauntlet that could've created a black hole

so guess what

he did that lol

[snow jackal]

Exactly

[mystic pulsar]

Doctor Strange utilized his abilities great

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

Unfortunately, Endgame came around and well..

Doctor Strange was basically not in the final fight

[snow jackal]

It bugged me

[mystic pulsar]

because he was holding back some water 💀

[snow jackal]

But at the same time he wasn't thr main focus

So I'm 50/50 on it

[mystic pulsar]

yeah

[snow jackal]

I definitely like infinity war more

[mystic pulsar]

what bugged me most about Endgame was Thor

[snow jackal]

Oh why

[mystic pulsar]

I understand he's not as fast as he used to be

But when Thor was fighting Thanos

the battlefield should've been SHAKING

[snow jackal]

Yeah

I guess Thor let himself go too quickly

[mystic pulsar]

I was hoping they displayed the rage Thor had for Thanos in that fight

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

if they showed thor's attacks being so powerful that you saw the earth cracking and stuff I would've been satisfied

because he's a god like character, right?

lol

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

Ragnarok had a whole thing about that

Then he goes to fight Thanos and it's the most underwhelming fight I've seen

[snow jackal]

Thor did seem weak

[mystic pulsar]

I'm not a huge fan of Zack Snyder's DC films

[snow jackal]

Oh me neither

[mystic pulsar]

mainly because he doesn't have the proper understanding of the characters

[snow jackal]

I didn't like JL's fight scenes because it's mostly beam spamming

And flying

[mystic pulsar]

but at least when he showed the power of kryptonians when they fought

[snow jackal]

Understatement of the century

Ok I'm exaggerating lol

[mystic pulsar]

Thor has a plethora of abilities the mcu just doesn't have him use

[mystic pulsar]

can't he make tornadoes?

[snow jackal]

Yeah

[mystic pulsar]

lol

the last time we saw a tornado from thor was in the first film

[snow jackal]

That's why I don't like bw and Hawkeye on the team. They provide nothing of interest in action scenes

Black Panther is a better addition

[snow jackal]

Dang I forgot he even had that!

[mystic pulsar]

I always look back on that first avengers film and wonder what Widow was supposed to do in the final battle

I didn't have an issue if Black Widow just stuck with shield

in the comics, she's sometimes an associate of Nick Fury

but they put her on the avengers to fight aliens in New York lol

like, what??

[snow jackal]

Ikr!!!!

[mystic pulsar]

Pretty sure the mcu did too

[snow jackal]

We should've had ant Man and Wasp instead

[mystic pulsar]

would've been much better

[snow jackal]

And tbh, much as I love Iron Man, his powers are basic

[snow jackal]

Exactly. No dull agents pretending to be interesting

[mystic pulsar]

because black widow stood there in the battle with the generic two pistol style

i can't even call it a style

lol

she did nothing flashy with it

[snow jackal]

Ikr

[mystic pulsar]

she just stood there and shot

[snow jackal]

If guns work, why not tanks?

[mystic pulsar]

exactly lol

[snow jackal]

At least Steve can reflect energy beams with his shield

[mystic pulsar]

yup

[snow jackal]

I'm not just about power levels but they do matter to some extent

That's why I don't really love the action scenes in the first 2 Avengers movies

[mystic pulsar]

When the avengers team started becoming made up of street tier characters, they were forced to nerf the black order

[snow jackal]

exactly

[mystic pulsar]

like when falcon joined

[mystic pulsar]

you're probably not aware, but the Black Order are serious business in the comics

if you mentioned them losing to one super soldier and 2 humans, you'd be laughed at

[snow jackal]

I'm semi familiar with them but I haven't read much of them in the omics

I know they're fairly new

[mystic pulsar]

yeah they came out in 2013

[snow jackal]

exactly

[mystic pulsar]

but they were tough

as they should be

[snow jackal]

They should be if they work for Thanos

[mystic pulsar]

They were Thanos' most powerful soldiers

To see them lose to falcon and black widow like that was painful

[snow jackal]

yeah it's one thing to lose to Spider-Man or Iron Man

[mystic pulsar]

in the comics, they put down the Hulk

Proxima Midnight ALONE put down the hulk

[snow jackal]

intense

[mystic pulsar]

granted, it wasn't due to physical strength

she was highly skilled and had special weapons

[snow jackal]

yeah it's not just strength as a power

but there is some power

like, Vision isn't as strong as Hulk but could possibly defeat him in some instances

[mystic pulsar]

but the mcu don't even show that

[mystic pulsar]

yup

exactly that

Corvus Glaive and Proxima were putting in work on the entire team in the comics

Hulk, Hyperion (Superman pastiche), Captain Marvel

[snow jackal]

oh yeah Hyperion from Squadron Supreme

[mystic pulsar]

you actually FELT their power

they were smart

and skilled

The avenger who was fighting Thanos at the time was Thor

[snow jackal]

which series was this?

[mystic pulsar]

Infinity

[snow jackal]

oh yeah i've been meaning to read it

[mystic pulsar]

It may not be the best written storyline, but when it came to displaying power levels, it did a good job

writers forget that characters like Thanos aren't meant to be beaten in a 1v1 by the superhero

they're to be beaten by the entire team

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

Seeing Thor struggle so much was great

[snow jackal]

i tend to prefer multiple hero vs 1 villain instead of vs goons

[mystic pulsar]

I like Thor, but he should not be beating Thanos on his own

[mystic pulsar]

fortunately, he frequently doesn't

but the same goes for Hulk and the others

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

they shouldn't be beating Thanos in a 1v1

[snow jackal]

none of them should beat Thanos 1 v 1

even 2 v 1

[mystic pulsar]

he's a team buster

[mystic pulsar]

nope

[snow jackal]

maybe 10 vs 1

[mystic pulsar]

that's something DC forgot

[snow jackal]

who beat him in DC?

[mystic pulsar]

when they had Superman pounding on Darkseid in the comics

[snow jackal]

oh

[mystic pulsar]

lol just referencing how Superman used to beat Darkseid in the 1v1s

[snow jackal]

from what I know, Darkseid shouldn't be easy to beat either

[mystic pulsar]

admittedly, it was never an easy fight for Superman unless bad writing was involved

generally it was a tough fight

but it wasn't a tough fight

if you know what I mean

like, Superman wasn't left bleeding or exhausted or anything

[snow jackal]

yea

[mystic pulsar]

they just fought for a long period of time

[snow jackal]

which he should be after going against Darkseid

[mystic pulsar]

superman has a few scratches and that's it

[mystic pulsar]

EXACTLY

[snow jackal]

they need some internal consistency

[mystic pulsar]

I was mixed about Captain America putting in so much work on Thanos

when he had Thor's hammer

mainly because I couldn't exactly recall the benefits of wielding the hammer

[snow jackal]

i think whoso ever wields it has the power of Thor

[mystic pulsar]

I know you get the power of Thor, is that just his lightning?

[mellow nest]

I came back to talking about darkseid

[mystic pulsar]

or his strength and durability?

[snow jackal]

i assume strength, speed, everything

maybe not at Thor's levels

[mystic pulsar]

because I didn't feel ANY of this

but Captain America in that same fight took a punch from thanos that knocked him out

[snow jackal]

i guess going up agianst Thanos, having that level still only lasts so long

[mellow nest]

Maybe find jane thor origins

[mystic pulsar]

INSTEAD of straight up killing him

[mystic pulsar]

maybe

[snow jackal]

I don't think Thanos can insta kill Thor

like, Thor is still tough

so whomever has his powers would be pretty tough too

[mystic pulsar]

yeah he is

[snow jackal]

and in the end, Steve still lost that 1 v 1

[mystic pulsar]

yup

Endgame displayed Thanos' actual skill well imo

with the blade

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

I just wasn't a fan of how weak the thor fight was

[snow jackal]

yeah I understand

[mystic pulsar]

This man killed your people

killed your brother

you chopped off his head

and you STILL weren't satisfied

now you get a second chance

[snow jackal]

i guess Thor's depression sapped his strength

[mystic pulsar]

I would've believed this if someone who worked on the film didn't say that Endgame Thor was the strongest he's ever been

[snow jackal]

wait, who said that?

[mystic pulsar]

not exactly sure

[snow jackal]

Hmm

[mystic pulsar]

i dont think it was the russos

[snow jackal]

it didn't feel that way

[mystic pulsar]

but I know they do comment on power levels sometimes

[snow jackal]

ofc we sometimes get conflicting statements

[mystic pulsar]

yeah

oh wow

it was the Russos

[snow jackal]

oh damn

[mystic pulsar]

I guess they wanted to make stuff like that clear

because they also said that Thanos was not stronger than the Hulk

his strength was equal

[snow jackal]

ohh

[snow jackal]

by the end of Endgame

so not necessarily during the battle

i guess

[mystic pulsar]

what was the change from the final battle to the end?

[snow jackal]

idk

[mystic pulsar]

Idk if they meant he was stronger in terms of emotions or something?

[snow jackal]

yeah

maybe

[mystic pulsar]

but the question was referring to thor's physical strength

[snow jackal]

so basically it's an answer to a question they didn't ask

[mystic pulsar]

exactly lol

not unexpected

writers and directors do that frequently

[mellow nest]

Unkissable please tell me you have the stan lee power levels clip

[mystic pulsar]

LOLL

I don't 🤣

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

but Thor in his first film shattered a portion of a planet

In Dark World, he fought someone who was using an infinity stone

in Dark World, he CHANGED the composition of the infinity stone

[snow jackal]

and in IW he withstood the full force of a star

[mystic pulsar]

In Infinity War the took the force of a star

so clearly they were letting us know that Thor is a powerhouse

which I have no problems with

he should be

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

then in Endgame for his final fight with Thanos, where he should be filled with rage, is so lackluster

no crazy lightning

[snow jackal]

yeah

[mystic pulsar]

no earth shattering blows

sometimes power levels can depict emotion

you just have to know when and how to do it

[snow jackal]

true. I'd like to see more usage of powers like that

the peak was DS vs Thanos

[mystic pulsar]

Exactly

[snow jackal]

although I liked some of the powers demonstrated in MoM

[mystic pulsar]

This was another issue I had for What If Season 2

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and by the ant-family in QM

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during the final fight?

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but What If isn't the films, so I wasn't as bothered by it

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both thor fights

the one in the 80s

and against peggy carter

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ohyeah

they seem to forget Thor's power levels

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I loved thor in this episode until the final fight where he just doesn't use his lightning???

is he the god of hammers?

his world was destroyed

again

his family gone

again

shouldn't the skies have darkened and lightning be everywhere?

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maybe loss weakens Thor?

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I was hoping if the films didn't get it, that What If will, since it's easier to depict powerful characters in animation

but nope

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yeah we got a powerful Ultron in it

we should get powerful Thor

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thor fought in the final battle just as he always fights

swinging his hammer around

barely using his lightning

no emotion in the final fight until they were being overwhelmed

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since he controls weather, can't he also freeze?

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EXACTLY

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yeah

we need that

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THAT'S MY POINT

THE VERSATILITY

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freeze, then shatter with lightning

i definitely agree

powers need versatility

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Thor can do more than just shoot lightning and throw his hammer

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right

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yup

the 1602 ep I really enjoyed

but still, lol

Thor man

why was he struggling with Peggy Carter???

I am baffled

I know different universes have different power levels

and it's possible that Thor isn't even an asgardian in that universe, just a powerful superhuman (since hela and loki didn't seem to have powers)

[snow jackal]

Yeah i didn't understand that one

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but Wanda was powerful enough to hold back the rifts in time

and STILL struggled to hold back Thor

so he clearly was powerful

but Peggy is just taking his hits?

Shield or no Shield

she can't put up a fight against an angered Thor

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What the hell did i just come back to

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MCU and its inconsistent power levels annoy me

but I doubt it will end

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What If

Season 2

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You see why i stopped caring?

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when will we ever get peak animation like EMH 😔

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Some said that her shield took the blows just like captain america did in avengers one

the blow that knocked back even Thor

Okay

so let's say that's how the shield actually works (that's not how it works btw)

Why was Thanos sending Captain America flying with his hits?

Why did he go flying in Winter Soldier when the grenade launcher shot the shield?

the shield doesn't negate or nullify energy

it's honestly quite inconsistent

but it's the mcu, so that's no surprise

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You say avengers one but in all instances where steve took a heavy blow he flew back

Which includes a strike from mjolnir

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https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxGZFM2RklQPYB7W950Pn6vZgRNnQYU8Ys?si=KkFQOKg2Am9x2DEP

that part

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Even loki was able to knock the shield out of his hands

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MCU forgot that Loki is an asgardian

lol

They forgot that he has super strength and durability

and can fight even Thor for a period of time

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Meanwhile loki show

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💀

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Sure he’ll never win against thor one on one(thats what the trickery is for) but not many can, and when he keeps getting compared with one of the strongest people tend to forget how strong he is

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Bro went from fighting thor to losing to regular humans in stores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9fMk8mXvJs

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Honestly dark world is the last time loki felt like loki

Even in ragnarok he kinda became a joke

Although most of the cast did

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Please

don't mention Ragnarok

How

do you literally

Kill off a character's

ENTIRE

SUPPORTING CAST

IN ONE FILM

Fortunately heimdall survived

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“But the audience found them boring”
THEN MAKE THEM INTERESTING COWARD

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probably because russos wanted to use him for infinity war

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THANK YOU

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For five minutes

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😭

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I was so glad sif's actress was unavailable

Something was telling me he was going to kill her off too

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Well i think sif technically lived

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but I celebrated too soon

because Ragnarok's success allowed Taiki to make another film

and Sif could not escape him anymore

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She died in tlat didnt she

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she appears in her COMIC BOOK COSTUME

(which was very nice btw)

(they finally decided to add color)

and her first scene is her on the ground after an offscreen battle

one arm

and a bunch of cheesy lines

they dont even expand on her relationship with Thor

how she could've been a potential lover

nothing

waste of an appearance

she doesn't appear for the rest of the film

until the ending

you know who they keep around tho?

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Make it awkward between jane thor and sif, thats so easy

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take a damn good guess

FREAKING KORG

WHO JUST

CAN'T

STOP

TALKING

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^^^^^^^^^^^

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Taiki loves his own voice 😭

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Its an insert character whatd you expect

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KORG WAS IN THE COMICS LOL

TAIKI DIDN'T CARE 😭

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he's from the World War Hulk storyline

and was a friend of HULK

Not THOR

oh my goodness

I can't

I was just reminded of the fact that we won't get World War Hulk in the mcu

it's over

im done

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But besides all of that, what do you think of my original thought that loki wasnt loki after dark world

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He wasn't lol

he changed

And not in a character development sort of way

in a Taiki involvement sort of way

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The last time Loki deceived someone was Infinity War

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Unironically the cliffhanger of him on the throne is a good direction of the character

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and that was when he deceived Thor

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and took the stone

but then what did he do?

raised his knife to cut Thanos throat?

What?

What was the game plan???!

almost 6 years have passed

and I still don't know why he did that

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I think that was more out of desperation than anything

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I can only assume it was the case

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is that even a cliffhanger?

or is that a conclusion?

he seemed kind of abrupt, so I guess it can be viewed as a cliffhanger

but im honestly not sure

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Technicalities aside it was good for him

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Yeah, he finally got the throne he wanted

i just want to know what happened to he who remains

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I hope someone does something with this

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At least What If showed the World Tree

Yggdrasil

It was the same one from Loki

So that was cool

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Moonknight is definitely my favourite marvel disney plus show

Followed by Loki

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I havent watched defenders luke cage or iron fist

Finishing jessica jones

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Just spent 20 minutes scrolling through a conversation between three people 🫠

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I have no idea why FATWS villainizes Walker so much for killing a terrorist. It’s so undeserved, remember in Civil War when Steve rips off a guy’s gas mask and kicks him into the ground leaving him to suffocate to death on poisonous gases? Yeah heroes in the MCU kill villains a fucking lot, which is fine because they’re in combat situations where villains are trying to kill them but suddenly when Walker does it he’s portrayed as a villain

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I understand marvel wanting to criticize brutality but they did it the wrong way

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What Walker did isn’t even that brutal compared to what Steve does regularly. It’s only the framing, music and the camera that makes Walker’s actions look brutal and villainous

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I mean, repeatedly smacking a guy in his head/neck with a vibranium shield until his blood gets on it is one of the more brutal deaths in the mcu

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https://youtu.be/ywSQNlbK73U?si=x0Y3OTAPeL-PjTC5&t=87
this guy is definitely dead, brutal way to go, broken back in the middle of the ocean

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Doing this to trained soldiers and militia in an isolated environment is vastly different than low grade freedom fighters in plain site

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"low grade"
they were whole ass superhumans

and they were not freedom fighters, they were full on terrorists i wont accept any other title for them