Who should the main antagonist of Secret Wars be?

[grand nimbus]

Do you expect any surprise villains?

[woeful tinsel]

Doctor Doom needs some MCU respect

[hearty pond]

K I’m gonna say, you can’t have secret wars without the Beyoncé’s

*beyonder

[drowsy trellis]

Fr tho

[restive acorn]

Yes

[upbeat elk]

Doom and beyonder are essential

[restive acorn]

😂

[hearty pond]

Yeah doom is important too

[woeful tinsel]

Doom could make for an interesting tactical invasion rpg similar to plague inc where you invade a certain area and try to take over the world

[dark roost]

Doom shouldn't be hes important for the 2015 version but it should be the beyonder. Save doom for later and a big F4 movie

[vapid spear]

Pretty sure f4 are getting a movie before secret wars comes out

So you'd have time to set him up

Though hopefully not in as rushed a way as kang felt

[modest sedge]

need to bring McMahon back and give him a proper movie

then make him the antagonist

[orchid dove]

def

[vapid spear]

If they reworked kang a bit he would work better for secret wars then doom, since they might not have enough time to set him up actually

[orchid dove]

dr doom

[woeful tinsel]

Realistically it's probably gonna be him and that's why I voted him but doom would be hella cool

[sacred gust]

Imagine Dr. Doom killing Kang and just taking over Battleworld for himself

[upbeat elk]

I'd wait another 10 years for a proper secret war with a well set up doom

[vapid spear]

In the original it was the beyonder who was the main antagonist, then in the 2015 version doom was the main antagonist, but seeing how we don't have any setup for either, kang makes a but more sense

[vapid spear]

Oh yeah definitely

Doom is an amazing villain, shame we haven't seen any of him so far though

[inner comet]

Yeah fr same

[sacred gust]

I just hope the actor they get to play Doom does him justice

[orchid dove]

They can't do Doom without setting him up first
They are setting up Kang, It should be Kang.

[marsh pebble]

I mean, they’ve done crazier things. I’d not be surprised if it is Doom because he was a major powerhouse in the comics, especially God Emperor Doom.

[orchid dove]

I wouldn't be surprised either, but they would need to set him up in at least Phase 6

[marsh pebble]

Yeah id expect that

[orchid dove]

I would be surprised if they just chucked him in randomly

[versed zinc]

Just bc it happens in the comics doesnt mean it's gonna happen in the MCU

[primal minnow]

You can't just establish Doom in Fantastic Four and then have him be the villain of Secret Wars despite Kang having more build-up from the near-start of the Multiverse Saga.

[silk bobcat]

Should be Beyonder, obviously.
I mean, how is this even a question?

[little galleon]

kang and beyonder are still way to powerfull for the current mcu heros imp

[silk bobcat]

(Kang should have been held back for years, decades even…so much baggage there that muddies, well, everything….but anyhoo, that’s not the question, so whatev’s)

[steady dock]

Kang and Beyonder are kinda boring

[silk bobcat]

COuld always switch it up and bring back the Grandmaster (Goldblum was fantastic) as an alternative...something he would have done if hadn't already been the Beyonder originally.
I don't remember what happened with him in the end of his last MCU appearance, though.
...and, I guess, that would also be less Secret Wars'y and more...Contest of Champions.

[spare citrus]

Doctor Doom ain't Secret Wars lvl

[mint aurora]

God emperor doom on the other hand…

[primal minnow]

They're only adapting the premise. Civil War, Infinity War and now Secret Invasion aren't adaptations of the comics' plots, yet still adapt the comics' premises.

[orchid dove]

From whatever I have heard from this storyline by a YouTuber, Doctor Doom is smarted than Kang

[spare citrus]

He can be the smartest, doesn't change the fact that his ass would be beaten by only 4 heroes

[orchid dove]

"It just makes sense"
-JFK 2003

[valid frost]

Doctor dooms is very underrated the man steals power from the Beyonder not to mention Marvel practically confirmed he is smarter then Iron man

[steady dock]

I mean let's be fair a character is only as smart as the writers make them

And giving a character like Doom enough character development and moments to be smart to justify him being a Secret Wars arch nemesis probably takes so much screentime they're probably not willing to give

[valid frost]

Ya, you’re probably right which has been shown in a comic where kingpin who usually has trouble with street level hero’s can now just beat doctor doom up

[broken wren]

i suspect connections with Doctor Doom, yes!

[placid yoke]

kang the conqueror

[foggy crescent]

dr doom aint underrated lmao

[foggy crescent]

2 of em did it right
one does not do shit with its premise

[primal minnow]

What's the "one" you refer to?

[foggy crescent]

isnt it obvious?

[prisma sentinel]

Beyonder is perfect for Secret Wars. MCU Needs a truly unbeatable threat to put the Multiverse in perspective.

[primal minnow]

Infinity War?

[limpid stone]

Can't wait for more Galactus.

[foggy crescent]

You Cant be serious

[primal minnow]

I seriously don't know what you're referring to.

[foggy crescent]

Secret shitvasion?

[orchid dove]

Nah not only the F4

[orchid dove]

Stan Lee said this once.

[steady dock]

It's a common saying among many authors I think

[orchid dove]

Hmm

He said when comparing who is stronger?

[prisma sentinel]

Techniclly out of the three only one cant truly be killed or...heck be beaten. Though God Doom is nuts...

Depends on the Variant... The one in Quantemania is just a variant. If he was beaten by Antman and Wasp then he obviously isnt the strongest variant. He said he beat Thor in his reality but whos to say in his reality Thor wasnt just a fat slob like he was at the start of Endgame. Or that maybe he had just blindsided him killing him.

[valid frost]

Unbeatable? Doctor doom steals and stores the Beyonder powers

Along with other cosmic beings

[prisma sentinel]

Technically speaking yes though he did turn Molecule Man variants to use as essentially a multiversal bomb. Which Doom was stripped of his powers by Molecule Man not long after and he was beaten by Reed Richards

[valid frost]

I haven’t read Doctor Doom vs Molecule Man yet

[orchid dove]

Yeah

[valid frost]

If he can’t really be beaten then that may be why they won’t have Beyonder as the antagonist due to the fact he’s overpowered unless the writer always him to get beat up

[prisma sentinel]

Nah they retconned him from being malevolent to more of an unstopable over powered loveable goofball who wants to understand humanity.

[prisma sentinel]

Plus its funny that he literally says that no force can kill him without his consent. As he literally makes his own weaknesses and strengths on a whim. So essentially in order to beat him youd have to convince him to voluntarily make himself vulnerable enough to be defeated.

[prisma sentinel]

You also have to remember that The Beyonder is over the Living Tribunal in power. With the Living Tribunal being literally placed by the One Above All to govern the Omniverse. That puts the Beyonder second and literally as a pier to One Above All.