#Oppenheimer

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sharp coral
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you're giving a reason for bad development and storytelling but that doesn't change the fact that it's bad development and storytelling

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making the movie from his point of view SEVERELY damaged the potential of the movie itself and that's why it was a terrible choice for the movie and it ended up being a bad movie as a result

deep dirge
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Agree...

polar axle
polar axle
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the main theme of oppenheimer is destruction

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and its the most important theme of the film

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if you cant fucking see that

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well

deep dirge
polar axle
deep dirge
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Yes! I full heartedly agree with this indivuals opinion about this film Oppenheimer!

sharp coral
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He's not a complex character, at least he isn't in the film
He would be if the film expanded on the character and the themes he represented but they didn't, they presented him as an incredibly basic character with the idea that he wanted to make a bomb then was surprised that it ended up killing people
Which sounds stupid but realistically it is stupid because the film does not develop the idea so it ends up being one note and flat

deep dirge
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y couldnnt they just split the movie in 2 acts

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oppenheimer

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then the court stuff

sharp coral
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I wanted a movie about a character that actually expands on the character and the themes he represents but nope just got 3 hours of my man building a weapon capable of wiping out millions then was shocked when the weapon wiped out millions

polar axle
deep dirge
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Not really much destruction js the actual bomba scene

sharp coral
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Destruction in terms of what

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Just saying destruction is a theme doesn't mean anything

polar axle
deep dirge
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Now u sound funny cuz of how much times u said destroy

polar axle
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and dont forget, strauss destroyed his career

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thats the fucking movie

deep dirge
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Ermm

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ok

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👍

polar axle
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bro what okay?

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thats literally the theme of the movie

deep dirge
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U cant rlly make me change my opinion of the movie

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if i didnt like it then i dont like it

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stop babbling about destruction and stuff

polar axle
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why?

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its the theme of the movie

deep dirge
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umm

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ok

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but i didnt ask for u to babble about the theme

polar axle
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the smaller themes like power and obsession all basically lead up to the main theme
destruction

polar axle
deep dirge
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i stated my opinion abt how i didnt like the movie

deep dirge
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speech

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RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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🦅 🦅 🦅

polar axle
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lmao

deep dirge
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Ya ok

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i didnt like the movie

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too bad too sad

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😢

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continue dick riding christopher nolan

polar axle
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auch

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right in the feels

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how shall i ever recover from this

sharp coral
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Very surface level

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It reoccurs throughout the film but again it's not really explored in any real depth

polar axle
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are you dumb?

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they build up his relation with florence pughs character and then we see her break down and basically kill herself

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thats already something thats been explored in depth

sharp coral
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It's also something explored in a lot of movies because the idea of characters losing things, losing themselves or killing themselves isn't exactly a unique theme or concept

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So the one idea that does recur through the movie is one that is very generic and overdone tears

polar axle
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and yet you watch superhero movies and
all of their themes have been explored as well

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and you most likely dick ride nwh

sharp coral
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Does he know

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I literally hate NWH and most superhero movies lmao

polar axle
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what about mission impossible for example

sharp coral
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Never seen them

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Bro thought he did something

polar axle
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what movies do you watch

sharp coral
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Haven't been able to watch many movies for a while but my favorites in general are Whiplash, Shawshank and the departed

deep dirge
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W taste

sharp coral
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Never been a fan of Nolan's movies other than Memento which is also one of my favorites

polar axle
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any biopics by any chance?

sharp coral
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Social Network I suppose

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Great film

polar axle
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true true

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it doesnt mean that when a movie already has explored a certain theme that that movie is bad

sharp coral
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Yes but when a movie is built in a way that it touches very briefly on a host of themes without letting any of them really be explored in any level of detail other than the most basic one out there then that's not a good sign

polar axle
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MY MAN

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i thought were the guy that liked every nolan film

sharp coral
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Nolan's shocking

faint wigeon
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One of my favs

polar axle
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hm,,,,,,,,,,,,

steady radish
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nerds

true grail
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Thats the fault of the movie for taking on so many themes and issues without being able to address them competently

plucky relic
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Man this has become the argument thread of you two

slate rose
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Honestly I don't get the hate this movie is getting

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Yes I'd change a few things

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But it's already such an amazing movie

polar axle
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Now you Tell me what themes this movie handles

sharp coral
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Well the guy was literally investigated for his supposed communist links so he definitely was part of the red scare

deep dirge
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF THIS

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slate rose
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Omg a hat

true grail
# polar axle Bro the movie doesnt deal with that many themes It explains the ones that are i...

Lots, the conflict that arises when one acts as both scientist and politician, the morality of harnessing nature for slaughter, the consequences of unbridled ambition, the question of who bears responsibility for the decisions that shape history, etc. Unfortunately none of them are handled particularly well and we instead get a half-baked sub-Sorkin attempt at morality politics devoid of any insight

plucky relic
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Sussenheimer

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Ding ding ding ding

deep dirge
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rewatched Oppenheimer

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still didn’t understand anything

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y they gotta play music/sfx every time someone speaks

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so confusing

terse cliff
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skill issue

deep dirge
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Isn’t u the one who filmed the bomb scene

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😂

faint wigeon
sharp coral
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Don't blame him

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Hard to understand a thing in Oppenheimer since the sound blasts over all the dialogue

polar axle
faint wigeon
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All the theaters I ever went didn't have subtitles

terse cliff
deep dirge
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i live in hong kong

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the subtitles are in CANTONESE

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and i cannot read cantonese because my parents sent me to a INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL

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which teaches english

deep dirge
true grail
deep dirge
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True dat true dat

steady radish
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talk to em

brazen torrent
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Made it feel more dramatic

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I understood around 90% of it so it wasn’t a big problem for me

polar axle
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And he makes that his own personality

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God damn

steady radish
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nolan is mid tbf

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nolan makes movies for man boys who think they are escaping the matrix because they have more than 300 dollars in their bank account.

And then people who wish they were that

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I’ve enjoyed all the Nolan movies I’ve seen

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Which isn’t many

plucky relic
deep dirge
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just like how @terse cliff filmed the movie

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yeah no

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use your brain dumbass

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😂

deep dirge
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Nah

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dont wanna disturb people

plucky relic
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K

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But really why so much music? They wanted to make a musical or what??

deep dirge
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bc it sets "tension"

brazen torrent
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Gotta say tho the composer deserves an award

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Ludwig gorrensan or however you spell it

deep dirge
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yes fair..

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he deserves it

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not chris nolan though

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man made ludwig compose music for the whole 3 hours

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😢

brazen torrent
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I mean it was probably more like an hour and a half total of unique music

terse cliff
deep dirge
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womp womp

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still filmed it

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😂

true grail
true grail
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I’ve literally been listening to the OST so much

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It’s really great

plucky relic
terse cliff
sharp coral
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The music itself is great but it's use and implementation is some of the worst in any movie

dim yoke
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Watching this movie in 70mm was honestly the best way to see this movie

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like in that one scene where he asks "can you hear the music" then it cuts to that shot in the sky, in 70mm its like your actually there

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The quality of IMAX 70mm cant be compared tbh. Colors, sound, everything

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dim yoke
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"When I came to you with those calculations. We thought we might start a chain reaction, that would destroy the entire world"

"I remember well. What of it"

"I believe we did"

dim yoke
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Didn’t know this chat existed 😭

fringe idol
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oppen

dim yoke
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BOOM

marble grotto
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is bandrew ded?

dim yoke
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Since this is a spoiler channel

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Robert Downey Jr did really well as the antagonist

marble grotto
dim yoke
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I thought his character wanted to help Oppenheimer

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But he manipulated Oppenheimer all along

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typical Nolan move

marble grotto
marble grotto
marble grotto
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its not a nolan movie without pulling out a twist outta nowhere

dim yoke
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So I was just going all with it

dim yoke
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The boy was the main character all along

marble grotto
marble grotto
dim yoke
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dim yoke
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Probably something related to galactus

marble grotto
marble grotto
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don't ruin nolan for me

dim yoke
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But like a different universe

marble grotto
marble grotto
dim yoke
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And then a couple seconds pass by and…

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BOOM

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IMAX seats were vibratin fr

marble grotto
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but then silence

deep dirge
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stupid

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or did you never learn about oppenheimer

marble grotto
faint wigeon
marble grotto
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then BANG

faint wigeon
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No cgi fr

dim yoke
deep dirge
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L

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bandrew probably got banned by rocked for not agreeing with someones opinion

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😂

dim yoke
deep dirge
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yes

deep dirge
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common rocked L

deep dirge
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what?

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thats how hykran got banned

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talk too much then you get banned

faint wigeon
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Hykran was a good guy

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Rip

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So was woter man

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Rip too

deep dirge
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woter man

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who dat

marble grotto
faint wigeon
# deep dirge who dat

He was the one I usually talked too in this server he joined server after you still you don't know him

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Nvm you weren't active

sharp coral
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Don't let him direct anything again wallahi

deep dirge
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@keen bane wut happened to bandrew

polar axle
polar axle
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They teach us about gender identity and sexuality but not about one of the most important person in history 🗿

polar axle
keen bane
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Please don't ping me over every ban

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We gave what was solely a warning to bandrew, and instead of taking it, they dug themselves in a hole

deep dirge
deep dirge
keen bane
deep dirge
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Thanks

brazen torrent
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Never heard of Strauss before the movie tho

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deep dirge
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not gonna rewatch this movie..

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atleast not in cinemas

brazen torrent
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I’ve already rewatched it lol

deep dirge
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I will at home

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when I have subtitles

brazen torrent
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I wanna see it a third time but idk if anyone will go w me

deep dirge
deep dirge
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I watched atsv 4 times by myself

brazen torrent
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I usually like to watch movies with friends in theaters

deep dirge
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Watch it by urself

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It’s better

brazen torrent
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It doesn’t really change anything

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Also I like hearing my friends reactions

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Lol

polar axle
fringe idol
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NO

deep dirge
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Yup..

polar axle
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Change your name to rocked0 with a different number at the end

polar axle
true grail
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RDJ was terrible in this movie

polar axle
sharp coral
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He was quite good imo but his character was shocking

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Bro did nothing for 2/3 of the film then immediately became the focus of the third act

true grail
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Ya im exaggerating

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He wasnt terrible, he was just fine

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Im not sure why everyones acting like he was incredible though

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The fact he could even potentially win the oscar is just monkecoma

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Gonna have to disagree there

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I thought he was incredible

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To each their own

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I wanna hear people’s thoughts on the score though??

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I think ludwig needs an award for that

deep dirge
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placement is bad

dim yoke
dim yoke
faint wigeon
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specially at the end

polar axle
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It's the audio mixing that has issues

deep dirge
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o

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yeah that’s what I meant

sharp coral
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Yeah it's good music that's used really badly

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Playing loud thunderous music over normal dialogue scenes is awful sound implementation which is a same because the music itself is sick

deep dirge
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LITTERALY

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thats the only reason why i dontl ike the movie that much

sharp coral
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That's probably the biggest reason I hated it but the film itself is just badly made

deep dirge
true grail
marble grotto
true grail
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Maybe ATSV but i doubt it

marble grotto
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My bets are on Zimmer or Ludwig

true grail
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Tea

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Atsv i think will only be nominated in animated

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Idk why some ppl still think its going to be nominated for picture LMAO

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true grail
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Probably will be filled by either The Killer, Poor Things or Past Lives

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But ATSV is probs top 10

marble grotto
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And nimona is kinda eh

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Tmnt is decent

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But atsv is both deep and artistic it's rlly rlly good

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So can't not see it winning

marble grotto
true grail
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The Boy and the Heron will be coming out soon

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Not sure theres a confirmed date though

marble grotto
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dang

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yeah I bet its gonna be good

marble grotto
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I think Oppenheimer has at least 3 Oscar’s coming it’s way lol

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Seems like a movie made for the oscars

true grail
true grail
marble grotto
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And nomination for best picture

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And hopefully win but idk

ancient bronze
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I think im going to buy this movie just for the fucking sake of me of trying to fully flesh out and understand the dialogue in this movie

deep dirge
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i got a website

storm tusk
faint wigeon
deep dirge
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you get banned for that?

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or are you just acting tough and stuff

faint wigeon
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And why would I act tough lmao

dreamy pier
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God this movie was peak

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In imax it felt amazing

keen bane
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that's always been a black and white rule

deep dirge
true grail
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No

true grail
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To win picture it’d need to win either director or screenplay

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It’d be an absolute shit screenplay winner

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Director he wouldnt be a terrible pick but still need to wait for KotFM

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And The Zone of Interest

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Which i suspect might be better directed

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Maybe even Anatomy of a Fall

sharp coral
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Oppenheimer doesn't deserve an Oscar

true grail
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But sound no, the sound mixing was shit

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Screenplay absolutely not when nolan is still writing women like hes 10 years old

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Supporting actor no, RDJ was fine but nothing to go crazy over

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Director - theres probs better directed movies coming out later

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I could see it winning score and supporting actor at least

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I hope more though

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If anything I hope we can all agree Ludwig’s score deserves an Oscar

true grail
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RDJ would be an okay win

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He probably will win because its such a dead category

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Like who is his competition? Gosling in Barbie?

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I guess De Niro in KOTFM

deep dirge
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dat

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not disagreeing or anything just wondering wut did Nolan do wit writing women

true grail
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Its a recurring thing for him

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And its genuinely embarrassing to witness

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Hes supposed to be one of America’s most celebrated filmmakers

deep dirge
deep dirge
true grail
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He is

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I dont know if its an ego thing but this is criticism he’s been getting throughout his entire career

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Even someone like Ridley Scott was able to seek out Nicole Holofcener to help with writing the female perspective in The Last Duel

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If Nolan knows he cant write women thats ok but its something that is fixable and yet he continues to just make these embarrassing attempts

still bay
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Very good film

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Felt long but not in a bad way

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Enjoyed evry second

brazen torrent
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Same

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Honestly one of the best films I’ve seen in a while

worn walrus
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Less talking more action

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Too much dialogue, I like dialogue but i got just got sleepy after an hour 😴

deep dirge
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this is a biodrama

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not a ww2 movie

marble grotto
# deep dirge not a ww2 movie

ikrrrr I keep telling this to people who shit on this movie saying stuff like "too much talking I wanted to see a lot of bombings"

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like even if the hearing scenes weren't there and if the whole oppenheimer regrets his greatest creation thing wasn't there and the movie was just science-y stuff and one bomb explosion, people would have still shit on this movie

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at least the one we got was far better than just a science-y film abt scientists making a bomb and blowing it up

marble grotto
deep dirge
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y u saying the shiti said

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my BIGGESTTTTTTTTTTTTT problem is sound mixing

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its awful

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christopher nolan is mid

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christopher midlan

marble grotto
# worn walrus Less talking more action

if you mean to say the movie could have had a shorter runtime then yes it could have had a shorter runtime I agree 3 hours made the movie feel kinda stretched out thin

marble grotto
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sound mixing was actually not done well

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worn walrus
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Ok

deep dirge
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not the bomb

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and the bomb scenes were accurate

marble grotto
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nvm

true grail
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Action wouldnt have made this movie any better

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Its still fundamentally SHIT

marble grotto
marble grotto
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idts its shit but its not absolutely amazing either

sharp coral
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kyan cooking

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also the bomb scene was shit

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the big nuke scene looked like it was taken from Fallout 76

faint wigeon
sharp coral
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some of the visuals were great outside of the actual nuke scene

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soundtrack was good even though the implementation was dreadful

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acting cool too i suppose

faint wigeon
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Glad to hear some positive things

deep dirge
true grail
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Benny Safdie was genuinely bad

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Murphy and Blunt good

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RDJ meh, i think people are overhyping his performance bc they havent seen him do non MCU stuff for a while

bleak galleon
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I thought Safdie was great in the role and RDJ was incredible and deserves not just a best supporting actor nomination but even a win imo

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I think Cillian and RDJ both deserve Oscars for this

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And Ludwig gorrensan needs an Oscar as well

marble grotto
faint wigeon
true grail
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Glenn Howerton was much better than RDJ

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Would be a better supporting actor winner

bleak galleon
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Agree to disagree

true grail
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Its too early to say who deserves to win anyways

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We have yet to see KOTFM or The Color Purple or Poor Things

rapid compass
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I loved this film

brazen torrent
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Relatable

next bear
true grail
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Literally

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Murphy sure but RDJ monkecoma monkecoma

faint wigeon
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RDJ for the win

true grail
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Absolutely not

hoary spruce
true grail
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Spiderverse is not win competitive at all

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Be serious

hoary spruce
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Not to throw shade at Oppie‘s score

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Both are amazing and distinctive

true grail
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It might not even be nominated

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There is 0 chance it wins against Oppenheimer, Dune Part 2 or Killers of the Flower Moon

hoary spruce
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Let’s wait and see

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I think ATSV will be nominated for Best Picture too

true grail
hoary spruce
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We‘ll see in January 2024

true grail
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Nothing to see

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Its not happening lol

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Animated + superhero is a combination thats not to their tastes

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I mean not hating I thought it was good

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But like I’m not gonna listen to it after the movie

keen bane
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I quite liked Pemberton's score, it has a very unique orchestration with very memorable and dominant motifs

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Served the movie very well by injecting a LOT of energy and drive that matched the creativeness and intensity of the visuals

hoary spruce
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That’s what I mean

true grail
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It was a good score

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Just not really awards worthy

deep dirge
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ok score

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bad execution

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terrible sound mixing

marble grotto
true grail
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If the first one couldnt get nominated why would they nominate the sequel

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U could make the argument that ITSV didnt get nominated because it was a field of 8 back the. and now theres 10 slots but ITSV wouldnt have made it into the 10 either then lol

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Cold War, Can You Ever Forgive Me, and If Beale Street Could Talk were easily ahead

marble grotto
faint wigeon
true sequoia
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Sloppy Oppy was peak frfr

deep dirge
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😢

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thank GOD hk doesnt have really strict age ratings 🙏

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I’ll literally be 17 soon anyway

deep dirge
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saw a kid walk in watchin oppen 😂

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it was like a 10 year old

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💀

hoary spruce
sharp coral
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Nah cringe kid

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Watching a shit movie

deep dirge
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deep dirge
marble grotto
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hm

sharp coral
faint wigeon
true grail
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Garbage surpassing garbage

faint wigeon
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LMAOO

marble grotto
worn walrus
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How did that make 912 Mil

brazen torrent
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Surprised that didn’t make more

true grail
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Shouldve made 0

sharp coral
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Fr

clever elbow
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Oppenheimer

true grail
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Utter garbage

ashen elk
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If you went in expecting an action packed fictional movie

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Might be bad

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But it was a well told documentary

marble grotto
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kyan isn't what you think lol

worn walrus
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Should've had bad in the genre section too

sharp coral
south flame
# sharp coral No we went in expected a good movie with well developed themes and characters wh...

well developed characters? Fuck this is not a type of fiction chief, it's a fucking biography. Many people like you relate "opinion" with "facts". Just because the movie wasen't up to your high CGI, action, romance and shitty standards, you start calling it trash. Idiots like you don't even know how biographies are made, especially those of the scientists. The movie was perfect in itself, did you go in expecting a full 1 hour asmr explosion of the atomic bomb? And hell, many of these "haters" say that it lacked the essence of physics when those idiots can't even understand a bit of physics. It was made for a general audience, not your common physicist or a mathematician. It's a relief masterpieces like Einstein's biography (genius season 1) have been hidden from people like you, no wonder you'll try to impose your "high standards" to them as well.

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mf watches shit like "The boys" and thinks he knows how a movie or series is made

sharp coral
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what

dim yoke
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You sound so triggered that somebody didn’t like Oppenheimer lmao that doesn’t mean he doesn’t have taste

stone shadow
dim yoke
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Lmfao

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Dude also has “fuck this pronoun bullshit” in the pronouns section of his profile because his third grade teacher hasn’t gotten to teaching him about them yet

stone shadow
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Aw! Baby's first big yap!

south flame
south flame
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and I thought people couldn't get any dumber

sharp coral
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"I" is a pronoun acksually 🤓

stone shadow
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Youre thr only one who seems hurt

sharp coral
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Least transphobic Oppenheimer fan

stone shadow
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LMAO

true grail
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This message was like a year old

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Also why can’t biopics have well developed characters lol

dim yoke
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Funny

dim yoke
sharp coral
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How did bro even find this channel after a year of inactivity surely it would've gone hidden 😭

dim yoke
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Right 😭

south flame
stone shadow
sharp coral
south flame
stone shadow
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The fuck is a make up cosplayer

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And what relation does it have to trans people

south flame
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I never said I'm transphobic

stone shadow
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What relation does it have to trans people

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Cosplaying and being trans are not connected

south flame
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to become superman, you need to be born as superman

stone shadow
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Errrr

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So trans people who cosplay as characters are.... faking being the character??

sharp coral
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@stone shadow just stop being woke smh

stone shadow
south flame
stone shadow
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Let me become my true form

sharp coral
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Bros been watching too much Ben Shapiro

stone shadow
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Myctrue form guys

south flame
# stone shadow What

what is the adjective of "people" in this sentence?
So trans people who cosplay as characters are.... faking being the character??

stone shadow
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You said that cosplayers arent the character, and i asked that so you could clarify

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And i will admit i do not have an answer for your adjective question

south flame
south flame
stone shadow
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I xosplay myself lol

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(Occassionally)

stone shadow
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Also im sense minded enough to admit that i might lose this arguement

clever badge
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lol

tough panther
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lmao

quick jewel
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bro was hating for no reason at all 😭

tough panther
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it's literally just this 😭😭😭

stone shadow
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OH NRO LEFT

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THATS WHY

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LMFAO