Which 'power level' of stories do you prefer reading?

[stuck furnace]

C and D for me

[wooden plover]

Moon knight is awesome

[fast tartan]

same

[tame halo]

Street Level is usually for more casual readers, and can be enjoyed by pretty much anyone

[modern mango]

a c and d

[twilit nebula]

I like street level stories a bit more than standard cuz most of my favs from both Marvel & DC are street level characters so there is some bias to my answer lol

[tame halo]

but I tend to go for cosmic stories because they touch a lot of interesting aspects and concepts, and tend to give you some really interesting interactions between charcters

[rigid shale]

I dont care for shit where there power level is so crazy that they can end the entire universe with on punch

[coral mesa]

I'm torn between B and A

What's the difference?

[rigid shale]

Read it?

[coral mesa]

I did.

[tame halo]

I feel like too many people take it as if cosmic stories are just stories where the mc, or the mv wins by a single shot, or is generally overpowered

[coral mesa]

I still can't see the difference.

[tame halo]

their world is for the most part scaled to the level of the main character

[coral mesa]

Yeah

[rigid shale]

Most of them are tho

[tame halo]

yeah in dragon ball

not marvel

[coral mesa]

LOL

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[tame halo]

not sure what kind of marvel cosmic have you been reading

[rigid shale]

What abt all the 'gods'

[tame halo]

they rarely even get any fights

and are usually a plot point

[rigid shale]

Yes bc most writers don't Even understand the comsic characters themselves

[coral mesa]

Marvel focus a lot into extremely powerful beings, they are plot points, but they are worse than dragon ball.

[tame halo]

i mean the gods are literally created to be plot point, they leave the overally weaker ones to them like Adam Warlock, Nova or Quasar to have their own stories

[coral mesa]

adam warlock, nova and quasar are not gods, even though adam warlock has people who worship him.

[tame halo]

literally what i said,

they leave the overally weaker characters (in comparison to the gods) to have their own stories

[rigid shale]

But you said it as if they were gods

Fuck

Damn typos

[coral mesa]

....

[tame halo]

yeah i worded it badly

[coral mesa]

I said A or B

I meant B or C.

[tame halo]

Warlock for the first few decades of his existence in the comics was not even all that powerful

[rigid shale]

I like c or d the most. But d mostly

[coral mesa]

What's the difference of B and C? It's too vague.

[tame halo]

prolly stuff like Avengers, F4, X-men yk

[coral mesa]

They are all the same to me.

I suppose B means events like Knull arc?

[tame halo]

I mean stories with characters like Phoenix, are different from your average Avengers ones

people have this misconception about the comics as if Avengers were the main team there too

when in reality it's only like this in MCU

and was most likely only done because they didn't have the license to F4 and X-Men

[coral mesa]

I feel like A is too exagerated

[tame halo]

i mean yeah the options are too unclear

I'd honestly label phoenix stories on the same power level as the supposed one in A

[coral mesa]

Agreed

[plucky nova]

I put very powerful because I’ve been LOVING all of the xmen stuff post house of X

It’s so cool to see them be so powerful

[coral mesa]

That's more like a B to me.

[plucky nova]

I wouldn’t rlly say so, like before house of X sure they’re B but like post of house of X where they’re like terraforming planets, nationwide creating ressurection methods, and are able to do like grand acts of power like making masses of land, establishing portals to other realms, contacting all beings on earth at once etc, jumps them up to very powerful in my mind tbh

Again specifically for post house of X

[plucky nova]

Oh also just making entire planes of existence 😭legion was so real for that

Wanda too

[coral mesa]

I say that it's a B because of the examples from A and the examples of B.

[plucky nova]

Agree to disagree ig

[coral mesa]

Ok.

[frozen star]

C

[covert barn]

YOU'LL NEVER GET AN ANSWER OUT OF ME JOCASTA!

[lone cloud]

I like all of them except for B
I really liked what I read from Hickman's saga (A), I am following the currnet Avengers run (C, I think), and who doesn't like some Spidey or Daredevil?

[primal plank]

Honestly i like street level stories, but i prefer the multiverse/cosmic ones

[lost path]

Where do cosmic stories for characters like Silver Surfer and Nova fall into? A or B? @chrome glacier

[muted bane]

This can have two meanings, what level of power do we prefer the main characters to be and what tier do we prefer their villains to be

I was going based off of the main characters

I really like it when some characters legit just seem to have the ability to be a problem for just about anyone they’re going against

And that’s mostly found in the high street tiers like spider-man and Luke Cage and in the mid-tiers

Those are my favorite personally

[muted bane]

I put nova into mud tier although he is pretty powerful but the tier right above that was scarlet witch, and Phoenix levels(I also think silver surfer can fit there tbh, but also both Novas don’t fit as there well in comparison to people like silver surfer)

Mid tier is super broad tbh

[muted bane]

That’s how I take it tbh

[muted bane]

Me too tbh

B should have been cosmic and A should have been a mic of pheonix level characters and multiverse shenanigans

[lost path]

Richard's Nova is up there with the silver surfer

[muted bane]

I blame the ranking systems partially here, Nova is around that level… but surfer can easily beat him

[lost path]

No he can't

[muted bane]

If they made a section and just called it the cosmic side(for the poll) then it’d be a lot easier to rank

[muted bane]

Wasn’t he doing that in Novas own run?

Nova fought him

[lost path]

Nova Prime is only slightly below base surfer's power level

[muted bane]

And did really good considering how OP surfer is but he wasn’t doing well, and surfer wasn’t trying😂

[lost path]

Silver Surfer received a massive amp during annihilation

By Galactus

[muted bane]

Oh

Damn

I didn’t know about that…

But wait

Even in recent comics

[frank badge]

I just wanna see them show powerful powers more

[lost path]

He fought Galactus level beings right after that story

[frank badge]

But not op powers

[muted bane]

He 1v1’d knull in his own comics

[frank badge]

Like cosmic level

[lost path]

Those beings took heralds out of battles with a single blast

[muted bane]

Rich is really powerful but…

[lost path]

He had an amp in that too

[muted bane]

Hm what amped him?

[lost path]

Can't remember if it was heart of universe or lifeforce

[muted bane]

He was fighting knull before he even became silver surfer black

[lost path]

But it was one of them

[muted bane]

He made the life force

In that comic

[lost path]

He made the life force?

[muted bane]

Hm

[lost path]

When does that take place

[muted bane]

Surfer, the enigma force

[lost path]

The enigma force isn't the life force

[muted bane]

Ah, ok I might be confused

What’s the life force?

[lost path]

The enigma force is what captain universe uses

Or cosmic Spider-Man

[muted bane]

I know

But I also remember something about it having another name

I guess I’m just misremembering that other name

[lost path]

Life force is basically what the Phoenix uses

[muted bane]

Hm

[lost path]

And Scarlet witch too? I think. @silver moss

But the life force predates surfer

[muted bane]

Scarlet witch does use it or something like that if I remember right

[lost path]

Yeah

[muted bane]

How often is surfer amped btw🤣🤣🤣

Cuz legit right after that he then became silver surfer black😂

Amps on top of amps😂

What’s his base?

I’m legit starting to question how often I’ve seen this dude not amped on something

[lost path]

Only sometimes in those big stories

But he really didn't need to be amped imo in that knull comic

He should be able to create a star on his own

[muted bane]

Ye that’s also how I saw it tbh

[lost path]

Pretty strong still

He can destroy planets easily

Rearrange molecules and stuff

Evolve lifeforms at will

[muted bane]

Nova can get a while lot more relative to him when he uses the full extent of the nova force, but usually doesn’t cuz of the strain it puts on him, so I tend to put him a bit lower than where I’d put surfer

[lost path]

Surfer is a bit above Nova when he has full nova force

At least, when it's controlled like it was during Annihilation

[muted bane]

Yeah ofc

[lost path]

Nova already matched the strength of an amped silver surfer

And nova did survive the blast that wiped out 3 star systems by Galactus

But surfer has more abilities

[muted bane]

I mean when he’s using all of it, like how he used all of it to defend himself from this dude:

Crap

I can’t send pics here🤣

[lost path]

Nova can really only absorb and blast energy and manipulate gravity. Surfer can do much more

[muted bane]

The dude named the “sphinx”

I think

[lost path]

Lol yeah sphinx was powerful

He's normally not using all in his fights

Cuz that's when it starts to affect him mentally

[muted bane]

Barely tho

[muted bane]

Yeah and that’s exactly what I meant

[muted bane]

Yep

Hence me putting him in a lower category than surfer

[lost path]

Still stopped surfer in his tracks

That same surfer killed two beings who took out Galactus prior

That's a big W for Nova

[muted bane]

Fair, but like surfer was hardly trying😂

[muted bane]

100% agree

[lost path]

He received a boost

[muted bane]

Rich is my favorite marvel character btw

[lost path]

So it was not as hard for him admittedly

[muted bane]

I ain’t trying ti downplay him😂

[lost path]

Nova with unrestrained nova force is above surfer I'm sure

[muted bane]

Above!??

Damn

[lost path]

Lol yeah he's cool

[lost path]

Yeah he already did it and Firelord said he was above the other heralds

Only below Galactus in power

[muted bane]

Ion know about that legit, surfer always seems to pull some insane stuff, but I do agree that in terms of raw power he might be

[lost path]

That's according to firelord

He didn't fight surfer or anything

[muted bane]

Also correct me if I’m wrong, current surfer is stringer than all of that right?

[lost path]

So there's no way to know for sure

[muted bane]

Ye

[lost path]

Not sure how powerful current surfer is

Sure he got amped again tho

[muted bane]

Damn🤣

I can’t win with this😂, I hardly ever know even the dude is amped unless it’s obvious usually

[lost path]

Yeah a lot powerful characters have had amps for the past few years

Thor

Hulk

Surfer

[muted bane]

I just see him appear and then just pull off insane stuff

[lost path]

Deadass the strongest characters be getting a boost in power

[muted bane]

At what point does it become their new base tho?

[lost path]

He does insane stuff in base form as well

[lost path]

When they declare it so

Thor's amp is technically his new base

[muted bane]

That’s my point, but like, I can’t tell when it’s cuz of an amp usually 😂

[lost path]

Not sure about hulk

[muted bane]

Then do we still call it an amp?

[lost path]

Yeah it can be confusing

[muted bane]

Hulk lost the mech

[lost path]

Isn't he still immortal hulk?

[muted bane]

He’s stronger in base form than he used to be, but he still lost the mech

[lost path]

Technically no lol

It's his new base

[muted bane]

He’s also no longer immortal but still insanely hard to kill😂

They cut him into pieces and he didn’t die😂

[muted bane]

Cool😂

[lost path]

Damn

[muted bane]

His regeneration without him being immortal is legit better than both deadpool and wolverine , and he doesn’t even need to use it as much as them…

[lost path]

Yup lol

[muted bane]

Also wait a sec, I see what’s going on here

I didn’t register that as an amp cuz the dude was weakened when he got it

I thought it essentially just recharged him more or less

[lost path]

Maybe it did. I don't remember much exactly other than the fact that he got a boost from an external power source

[muted bane]

Fair, I only registered as him getting back to around his normal power levels despite the other power source

Like u mentioned

He can make stars usually

[lost path]

Richard was fighting gladiator before becoming nova prime lol

[lost path]

Which is why I say his power level as Nova Prime is much higher than people state or believe

[muted bane]

I won’t lie to you, I’m not caught up on his old comics only annihilation war and after😂

I do intend to check out his old stuff tho, including his run with the new warriors

[lost path]

He's basically supposed to be like 100x stronger than he was here

With no known upper limit

[muted bane]

But ye that’s super impressive for a non nova prime

[silver moss]

different life forces

[lost path]

Exactly

[lost path]

Lol ofc

[muted bane]

Ofc that’s the answer considering how marvel is🤣

[lost path]

Marvel has different life forces

I'm not even surprised

[muted bane]

Me too tbh

[lost path]

Maybe at a point that would've surprised me

But that point has long passed

[muted bane]

That’s more than typical from marvel tbh😂

[silver moss]

the poll is wrong tho because the phoenix is an abstract and scarlet witch is the concept of chaos

[muted bane]

I mean

Rn

Legit

[silver moss]

so those two are basically the same

[muted bane]

I’d say they’re near in power

She was making pocket realities casually

[lost path]

This is when he had the entire Nova Force without restraint @muted bane

[lost path]

Exactly lol

[silver moss]

the phoenix is greater than most abstract entities

[muted bane]

Damn

Is the gold dude rich?

[lost path]

So I thought it was weird Phoenix was below abstract

[muted bane]

Ye

[lost path]

It is

[muted bane]

Damn

[muted bane]

It is tbh

[lost path]

The guy getting his ass kicked is Firelord

Who is another herald

[muted bane]

What comic is this from btw

[lost path]

He's not as powerful as surfer but still pretty strong

[muted bane]

I’m curious now

[lost path]

He has broken surfer's board

[lost path]

New Warriors #42

It was part of an ongoing event

[muted bane]

Ah, ok I really need to check out the og new warriors then😂

[lost path]

Yeah lol

[muted bane]

Have u read the cable and deadpool run? Where cable was really amped?

[lost path]

Nah I haven't read that

[muted bane]

Cable was amped to the point where he was able to break surfer’s board, but the entire fight, surfer hardly looked like he was trying and he ended the fight by legit just shooting off half of cable’s body and putting a block on his powers…

[lost path]

LMAO

[muted bane]

Cable didn’t even want to fight him either

[lost path]

I wouldn't want to fight him either

[muted bane]

Surfer just cane out of nowhere from the sky and started attacking him😂

[lost path]

Even if I was amped

[lost path]

LMAO

Have to read that

[lost path]

Do you remember which issue was it?

[muted bane]

I really love that run btw, it’s really good

[muted bane]

It starts on issue 9

Also cable was doing stuff I don’t even see Jean Grey doing as an omega level telepath, in this book and he was using his telekinesis to an insane level

[lost path]

Okay thx

[lost path]

Damn

Must've been a crazy amp

[muted bane]

I mean… I did say that he even broke surfer’s board😂

[lost path]

True

[chrome glacier]

I'd say B

[spring jolt]

I'd have to go with a

[nocturne venture]

I neeeed Galactus

[valid folio]

street level is just built different

[hardy plume]

street level is good but reading about the multiverse is way better cause you can get different story line for a same character

[winter sleet]

I only like high power level stories if it's a long story arc and it's well-written

[wise dock]

I like street level because you can relate to them and they are set in everyday places.

[tawdry totem]

well, not saying cosmic or multiversal scale stories are bad

i do enjoy them but i'd choose street level hero stories more coz they're relatable and stuff

[modern mango]

Idk

[lost path]

Oh okay

[calm void]

@brisk wadi, thanks for voting!

Why did you choose 'Street' level (e.g. Daredevil, Spider-Man, Moon Knight, etc.)?

[rustic whale]

I picked street level, but if I had to pick a 2nd choice, I'd say the abstract/cosmic stuff

[hoary rampart]

i like minecraft

[worldly fjord]

Honestly I thought Spidey and Moon Knighf would be at least Standard Power level. I like street level. Cosmic stuff is good as well. I kinda all of the options.

[frank lichen]

Tbh i don't mind any levels at all

Tho i guess with street level u get to see awesome physical fight scenes

[digital dawn]

Moonknight kind fits into most of the categorys depending on the comic lol

[woven coral]

Me too, my friend, me too

[hoary rampart]

wow, wanna be friends?