Episode 6: TBD
Aired: July 2, 2024 or <t:1719968400:R>
Synopsis: TBD.
Created by: Leslye Headland
Directed by: Hanelle M. Culpepper
Written by: Leslye Headland & Jocelyn Bioh
What did you think!?
#The Acolyte - Episode 6 - Episode Discussion
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finite obsidian
Huh
I wonder if they're gonna give credit anywhere to the folks that created the stuff they're bringing back
tough kiln
halcyon nacelle
My main takeaway is: Qimir is the Sith Apprentice, and his master is out somewhere after discarding him.
sinful geyser
Qimir is the girls father. The witches took his seed (from his back... for some reason) and discarded him
ebon aurora
My main takeaway is: Qimir *is* the Sith Apprentice, and his master is out somew...
Already seemed likely but even moreso now.
sinful geyser
Also, anyone not think that was Ahch-To?
halcyon nacelle
Also, forgot to mention but.. Damn, Qimir. (referring to that one lake scene).
sinful geyser
Got the Jane Austin fans paying attention
ebon aurora
Also, anyone *not* think that was Ahch-To?
It came up right away at our house, but I don't see any strong reasons now that it would be. Lots of existing and possible connections to Bal'demnic if they bring that back in.
Ocean planet, cortosis deposits, connection to Tenebrous which could also happen here.
Though also the way he was talking sounded like he might be much older than he looks.
sinful geyser
Those animals with the trunks... could be baby versions of the ones Luke milked
ebon aurora
Looked like parents with a child already, but maybe.
There were two big(ger) ones with a tiny one.
Also they have two legs with feet and the thala-sirens have four flippers, and pretty different head shapes. Things can change some as they grow but "they live on islands and have trunks" is basically where the similarities end.
broken arrow
Yeah, I think it was meant to invoke Ahch-To, potentially for thematic parallels, but not actually be Ahch-To.
median quail
I wonder if they're gonna give credit anywhere to the folks that created the stu...
When it's work for hire? No.
median quail
Also, anyone *not* think that was Ahch-To?
seeing Unknown Planet made me think of KOTOR's Unknown World
Not that it's the same planet, but that even such a slight similarity in wording will get people drawing conclusions
median quail
Yeah, I think it was meant to *invoke* Ahch-To, potentially for thematic paralle...
Luke giving Rey the cold shoulder but letting her tag along while he does his daily routine is pretty similar to this, yeah
But whereas Luke tries to keep her from exploring the darkness, Qimir uses her desires (curiosity, resentment, attraction) to draw her in
On another note, I like the answer the show gives for why Sol took so long to notice the switcheroo. Instead of a "technical" answer like Mae hiding her forehead mark and it being revealed at some point, it's all about Sol's emotions being so unbalanced that he can't feel what's right in front of him.
He was being super creepy in the last scene, too. Wonder where that is going.
broken arrow
Yeah, you picked up on that too, huh?
ebon aurora
Yeah that's much better than making it about her forehead, makes total sense, and he eventually calmed down enough to catch things.
sinful geyser
I enjoyed watching his face go to war with itself
ebon aurora
I remember somebody suggesting that Sol could be the Sith, which I don't buy at all but I do think it's interesting that blaming him for the massacre is a possible end result on the official Jedi end now.
But yeah sounds like we're getting to the dark secret finally.
median quail
Yeah that's much better than making it about her forehead, makes total sense, an...
Did he, or did Basil tell him?
ebon aurora
Yeah Basil is there too, I guess that's possible.
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So I was just about to say, I don't think we saw Sol interact with Bazil at all this episode?
Sol: "My whole team is dead!"
Bazil: "Bruh, I'm standing right here!"
Prime example of freakin' Jedi hubris right there.
median quail
The way Basil is revealed after Sol stuns Mae indicates that the info came from Basil, IMO
So yeah, Sol could have known much earlier if he had checked in on Basil, but admittedly Basil was acting very sneaky, too
ebon aurora
Sol: "My whole team is dead!"
Bazil: "Bruh, I'm standing right here!"
I mean he thinks Osha is with him at that point too, so yeah just ignoring the civilians.
median quail
I remember somebody suggesting that Sol could be the Sith, which I don't buy at ...
Hard to say whether Sol is being presented as unsettling because he's unsettled, or whether it's an indicator that there is some truth to Qimir's insinuations
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He certainly seems to have been harboring guilt for many years.
So we'll see where that goes.
median quail
Sol doesn't realize Basil is on board until the last moment, does he?
It's Padme & Obi-Wan all over again LOL
ebon aurora
He might not even know he's on the ship, yeah.
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Wait, I forget. They brought Basil with them, right? He wasn't a local hiring.
ebon aurora
Yeah
median quail
Yes, pretty sure
ebon aurora
He's on the ship before
broken arrow
Right, and he was the first to encounter Mae in the woods back in Episode 4, just before the cliffhanger ending, and clocker her and (presumably) her scent then.
median quail
HE IS THE KEY
ebon aurora
"Bazil is the key to all of this"
-Leslye Headland probably
median quail
I'm figuring this is a very elaborate Austin Powers reference
Bazil Exposition telling Sol who is who
sinful geyser
If only Pip was a Jedi master... easiest takedown yet
ebon aurora
Hold both buttons down to factory reset got a chuckle out of me.
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"Bazil is the key to all of this"
-Leslye Headland probably
||Bazil is the real Sith Master|| theory confirmed!!!
median quail
Mae casually resetting him; for all her (very short-lived) willingness to turn herself in, she's still a fucker
Of course, Sol also refers to Pip as just a machine...
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So basically, if a factory reset is that easy, does that mean that all this talk of 'taking droids to be memory wiped' was just the human masters trying to keep the droids in line through fear tactics?
median quail
one model having an easy reset doesn't mean every droid has that
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I know, I'm just taking the piss.
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Also trying to guess what the hate-blogosphere is going to get angry about for "bReAkinG TeH lOrE" this time.
median quail
Also trying to guess what the hate-blogosphere is going to get angry about for "...
Sol showing emotions?
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I bet one of them is going to get angry about the lightwhip and blame in on Headland or one of her writers.
median quail
"why didn't Qimir 720 no-scope all the bugs if SHE can kill one???"
ugh, even pretending at this stuff feels icky
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Yeah, I'm done
But here's a question, if we got a live action vector in the first episode, where are the Longbeams at?
median quail
just off-screen 😛
ebon aurora
Where are my longbeams, Summer? 🐕
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Huh, I guess they are classified as a 'cruiser' so probably not suitable for the transports we've seen in the series.
median quail
speaking of ships, I felt both Sol's ship and the one the rescue team arrives in felt very... Flash Gordon-y
with the shape and the antennas and all that
proper "rocket ships"
ebon aurora
Gotta throw some nods that way for George here and there.
median quail
I will say the rescue team being a third the size of the team that got TPK'd is a bit of a head-scratcher LOL
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Kinda looked like they were trying to invoke the same design language as a T-6 shuttle, maybe?
median quail
Though it makes sense with the green lady (don't recall her name) still trying to keep things low profile even in the face of disaster
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That was my take on it too
ebon aurora
Yeah I think that's the reason in-universe.
median quail
Kinda looked like they were trying to invoke the same design language as a T-6 s...
same lineage
ebon aurora
From a show perspective there's just nothing for 20 characters to do if you make it a reasonable response to possibly needing to fight something that killed that many Jedi.
median quail
ebon aurora
As much as I'd love a full transport of fun alien Jedi that are just background extras there are still budgets for these things, unfortunately.
median quail
From a show perspective there's just nothing for 20 characters to do if you make...
yeah, it's a bit like, "why not send 20 people with rifles after the psycho samurai?"
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As much as I'd love a full transport of fun alien Jedi that are just background ...
Look, they gave you a Kel-dor. Are you not entertained?!
median quail
at some point you gotta clock that this is all constructed to give us cool duels 🙂
ebon aurora
Much more entertained by the Selkath, actually, though I do also appreciate the Kel-dor
median quail
Look, they gave you a Kel-dor. Are you not entertained?!
they gaveth and they tooketh
broken arrow
At this point, they they were sending a rescue team out to find the other team meant to extract a single lone Jedi, and the only known opponent (publically) was Mae. So makes plenty of in universe sense. Doylist explanation? Costumes and extras add up.
ebon aurora
they gaveth and they tooketh
Just there to be a false sense of security for Jecki and Yord.
median quail
basically a blanket
ebon aurora
"They brought a bunch of redshirts so that there are people that can die... oh."
ebon aurora
We were this close to https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Butt
median quail
comment from reddit:
qimir is setting thirst traps
desert otter
Whoever decided to make Manny Jacinto a dark jedi needs a raise
strange rover
I remember somebody suggesting that Sol could be the Sith, which I don't buy at ...
I mean they dont know about the Sith and Sol is the only guy powerful enough in the zone... and he is gone now. So at least reasonable someone might say it.
strange rover
I will say the rescue team being a third the size of the team that got TPK'd is ...
Unless she is that strong.
(I have not read HR so I dont know her powers besides that she made a whip and what she did in the show)
zinc river
Well. That was once again awesome, no notes.
clever fjord
I mean she might be Kriss/Yoda level by now
She is sufficiently green coloured
But the puppet is far more animated
zinc river
Since it just came up over in #character-building: I love the effect for the lightwhip.
halcyon nacelle
To people caught up with the Acolyte and who delved into the HR novels and comics: How well would you say the Acolyte respects the source material? Asking because I recently saw a discussion about Filoni's works basically throwing aside pre-established written material, and was wondering how faithful to the source material this show has been so far.
rain dagger
median quail
I think this was about the Ahsoka novel getting overwritten by Tales of the Jedi
ebon aurora
That and KananCaleb's Order 66 experience in Bad Batch. Neither are actually a huge deal, but those combined would be the Canon examples.
He's not wildly throwing aside important canon at every turn, but is willing to revise things from books/comics to suit a show. I don't think there's anything at all in Acolyte that is retconning things but I'm not caught up on every single HR detail.
It's a bit after the other HR content.
median quail
Yeah I'm not bothered by it, but it does happen,,that's just a fact.
Plus, the show isn't written by Filoni
halcyon nacelle
I was thinking more along the lines of what happened with Ventress in Bad Batch. But also, the Ahsoka novel was one I knew about "firsthand".
visual lava
The High Republic series takes place roughly 200 years BBY. Acolyte is around 100 and change. It's in that fertile ground of little established canon. Beyond Vernestra Rowh appearing, it hasn't had any bearing on the events of HR.
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As far as I have seen, things seem to have been fairly consistent between The Acolyte and THR books and comics. Then again, not too much to compare. The Acolyte gave us the first live action appearance of a Jedi vector starfighter from THR, the Jedi robes seem fairly consistent with their protrayal in THR and ||flashbacks in Jedi Survivor|| and Venestra’s lightwhip was already established as a thing in phase 1 of THR.
So if there have been any retcons between THR and the Acolyte, I’d say they’d be pretty minor.
visual lava
If anything, the robes are toned down a bit to show the transition from the glitzy HR look to the relatively muted style of the prequels.