#Copied studies on lichess...

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main ice
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I see a some copied studies on lichess. Like, some people just fully steal a popular study and then make it appear they themselves made it. Or recently, I've seen some studies copied from chessable courses (paid and unpaid). Does lichess do something about this? (like, delete it?). It just seems really unfair to me that a person spends a massive amount of time in creating good learning content, and some random kid longing for attention fully steals it and gets a bunch of credit.

minor stirrup
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For paid studies, we don't know if they actually paid for the pgn or not so usually we make it private. For copying public lichess studies, it's not a priority right now.

halcyon blade
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Pretty sure the owner of the study can disable copying of the study

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So if the owner is fine with other people copying their study, I don't see the problem

main ice
# halcyon blade So if the owner is fine with other people copying their study, I don't see the p...

The owner of the study probably isn't gonna be like "I'm gonna open this setting for people to fully steal my work and they get all the credit for it!". The cloning feature is there for a reason, not for other people to steal the study, but for players to clone the study and privately further study it; investigate more lines, see what the engine thinks, compare it to games, make it interactive to help in memorization...etc. This is of course a very helpful feature, but it can be used for what I've mentioned earlier. So, for studying reasons, the owner just leaves the setting at default (cloning on). I don't see a problem when players copy a study to further study the lines privately. But, when they steal it for getting attention/fame/more team members/..., I totally have a problem with that.

lost merlin
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Lichess has a takedown form here : https://lichess.org/contact#help-dmca , that the owner ( ie. chessable ) can use. It's hard for Lichess to know what is and is not stolen ( or if someone has permission etc.) - after all we don't have the chessable library or printed books copies etc. It's obviusly not perfect, but in line with how other sites handles copyright infrigment I think.