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edgy jolt Mar 9, 2023, 6:51 PM

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and ... How are you even going to find mate here

small otter Mar 10, 2023, 9:17 AM

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thonk Rxh4 sus

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Rxh4, gxh4, Bxg2, Kxg2, Qg4, Kh2, Rh5, Nf3, Qxf3 I think that works

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and after Bxg2

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if Kh2

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then Qg4

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and white is getting mated

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no f3 coz of bishop on c5

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and after Bxg2, if white plays Kg3

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then I'm not bothered to try to find a mate there

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 9:50 AM

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Yeah kg3 and zere is no mate

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:07 AM

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is there a mate there?

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 10:08 AM

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In the puzzle yes but not in your line

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:08 AM

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ok

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wait I jstu realised

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nahh

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that's so sus

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Qg4+

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if Kxg4

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then Bxg2

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then h4

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then Rg6+, hxg6, Kh4 Be7, Bf6, Bxf6#

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and after Qg4+

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if Kh2

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then Rxh4+, Kg1, Qh3, Bxh3, Rxh3, Ne4, Rfh5

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and instead of Ne4

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if Qe4

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then take the queen and play Rfh5

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that's bloody illegal

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if anyone is finding that in otb rapid or less, give them a bloody award

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oh wait there's an even sussier line

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Qg4+, Kxg4, Bxg2, Nf3, Rg6+, Ng5, h5+, Kxh5, Bxf3+

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if g4 then Rh6 is mate

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and if Kxg6 then Rf6 is mate

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oh wait

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that's not mate coz of bishop on b2

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my bad hold on

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nahhhh

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wait a minute

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there's no way moving the king to g6 holds, bloody hell

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😭 can we remove that bishop from b2

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argh

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 10:38 AM

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Qg4 first

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:39 AM

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what?

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:43 AM

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Bxg2

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then Rxh4

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gxh4

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then Qg4+

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then Qxh4+

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Qg4+

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then Rh5#

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I think this works

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Bxg2 Kh2?

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:45 AM

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then rook take anyway

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:45 AM

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Kxg2?

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also after Rxh4 in the other line they can just play Rh1

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Kxg2 Qg4

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Rh1

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:46 AM

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oh right

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:47 AM

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so Rxh4 doesn't work

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Qg4+ doesn't work

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and Bxg2 doesn't work

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unless they do and we're just dumb

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:49 AM

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this is tough

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 10:49 AM

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can you just check Qg4 for me in case I missed something

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I did my calculations above

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the Qg4+, Kxg4, Bxg2, Nf3 line

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coz the other lines lead to mate, it's just this line

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:51 AM

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1... Rxh4+

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2.gxh4 Bxg2+

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3.Kxg2 Qg4+

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then it's mate

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if 2.Kh2 then you go Qg4

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then Qh3+ Qh1# is unstoppable

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@small otter

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 10:55 AM

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Bxg2 and white can just play Kg3 I think

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:55 AM

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if Kg3

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there's Qf3+

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then Kh2 Qh3+ Kg1 Qh1#

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 10:57 AM

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Knight on d2 covers f3

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 10:57 AM

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oh

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omg how did I miss that

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:00 AM

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strong panther <@697316775141965835>

I already analysed that line

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betermagne said it was wrong

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I'm kinda tempted to just ask for the answer at this point

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 11:01 AM

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Why ask him

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:01 AM

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coz he posted it

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 11:02 AM

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Just ask stockfish HmmBeg HmmBeg

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:02 AM

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but I'm not bothered to set it up

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 11:02 AM

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I’m guessing it’s some stupid subtle move we are missing

strong panther Mar 11, 2023, 11:10 AM

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stockfish says white is winning

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:11 AM

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ah

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we got jebaited

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it was white to move

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all along

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 11:11 AM

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peepothink

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:11 AM

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scam title

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:13 AM

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keen sun <:peepothink:772474444827983903>

we analysed Rxh4, Bxg2, and Qg4+ already

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 11:14 AM

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I didn't read anything because there was just too much analysis and I wanted mental peace pepefunny

gloomy parrot Mar 11, 2023, 11:16 AM

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You get that by not playing chess

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PB_cool_sip

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 11:16 AM

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gloomy parrot You get that by not playing chess

Yes

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 11:50 AM

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@edgy jolt what's the answer?

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:01 PM

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small otter if g4 then Rh6 is mate

This is so close lmao

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I mean the line above that

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But you just need to switch one move and the overall idea is the same

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:06 PM

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bruh

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wait

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instead of Rg6

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u play Rf6

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that's so dumb

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I'm saving that one

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:09 PM

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Nah forget about Rf6

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King just goes back to Kg5

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:09 PM

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huh?

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:10 PM

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small otter Qg4+, Kxg4, Bxg2, Nf3, Rg6+, Ng5, h5+, Kxh5, Bxf3+

I was talking about this line

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:10 PM

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oh

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I'm saying Rf6 after Nf3

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:11 PM

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small otter I'm saying Rf6 after Nf3

Ohh h5 then and if Rxh5 then Bxf6

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:11 PM

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bruh

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this is so annoying

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ARASRJALDKFJLSDKAJF

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wait

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wait

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nah

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Bh3

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Kxg6

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Rf6

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Bxf6

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Bf5

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Kh5

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g6

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Kh6

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Bf8

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I'm calling the police on you for making this puzzle

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 12:13 PM

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Calm down donkey

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It's fine

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Everything is okay

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:13 PM

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bruh

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just look at that solution

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it's not okay

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Inner peace

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:14 PM

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Brother i ought to call the engine police for even finding that

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Actually not even stockfish can find this at first

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I didn't make the puzzle lol but i wanted to share my suffering

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:15 PM

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I shall now proceed to hang myself

keen sun Mar 11, 2023, 12:15 PM

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Someone call the ambulance

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:15 PM

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and achieve true inner peace

zinc cedar Mar 11, 2023, 12:16 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/11mk6fy/i_composed_a_puzzle_stockfish_cant_solve_black_to/

r/chess - I composed a puzzle stockfish can't solve. (Black to play...

1,382 votes and 179 comments so far on Reddit

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:16 PM

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Drats I've been caught

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:16 PM

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edgy jolt But you just need to switch one move and the overall idea is the same

this was what gave it away

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:17 PM

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Damn, i thought that was cryptic

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Was thinking of telling it's a bishop move at first

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:18 PM

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I'm never doing another puzzle again

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I swear I wasted like 2 hours of my life on this

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:18 PM

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Lmao

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I never actually tried it myself

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:19 PM

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💀

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:19 PM

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I'm sorry bruh

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I gave it to a friend and he solved it in 40 minutes

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:19 PM

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what's his rating

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:19 PM

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Altho he was using a board

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2200s blitz

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:20 PM

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same as me

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but he did it 80 minutes quicker

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tho I was watching youtube

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:20 PM

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Hmm i may have hinted something to him so no worries

edgy jolt Mar 11, 2023, 12:21 PM

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small otter tho I was watching youtube

Watching YouTube and thinking about lines??

small otter Mar 11, 2023, 12:23 PM

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no switching

#black to play