#Newbie & budget fashion rental service

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hearty wind
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Sorry, but service type trades are not allowed here. Aqua_Sad

mint steppe
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FynniShock ❓

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(There exists a crafting service thread? where it's literally crafting and trading items as a service? This involves no trades? It's basically an advertisement for the new rental feature? confusion everywhere)

mint steppe
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Not sure how this is going back there, so basically I want to buy fashion for my own dressing room collection.

Not just any fashion though, but ones that will catch three birds with one stone -

  1. I get to buy fashion for my dressing room collection
  2. People get to rent what they want at an affordable rate
  3. I make pocket gold from renting fashion pieces i own

There's no scam or fraud to protect me or anyone from...

mint steppe
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yeah not sure how these other "services" have been allowed to exist, like crafting service/pawn shop service/bulk buy order service/art commission service, but this is somehow isn't pinkieOwo how unfair! somehow we're not allowed to take fashion rental requests! with fashion that i buy with my own gold! and there's no "trading" involved at all! just rental!!!! 🤦

bronze fossil
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Mabi don’t want you to use their features bcaFunnyLaugh

steel harbor
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We'd discussed and concluded that the wording of your original post was that you would "purchase requested items (to a limit)" and then "rent them back to the requestee dependant on how much you paid", which we determined came with the same sorts of risks we associate with Gold Loaning/buying an item on behalf of another.

In the interest of consistent moderation we'd removed your post due to explicitly advertising the 'service' of buying an item on request to be paid for later due to the risks involved. This would be similar to our disallowed gold loaning service.

There are no issues with advertising outfit rental, as are there no issues with Royal Artisan Associates advertising their skills, nor the act of selling an item to another player or requested materials to buy - provided the latter abides by the 'no gold loaning' rule. Our Art Commissions section is a special case, in which all purchases are done at the users risk and as such are not advertised in the marketplace.

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If you do disagree with our decision, our guidelines, or have any enquiry of where the line is drawn, you are welcome to reach out to us direct via mod-mail for additional discussion, or if for any reason you don't want to talk to a moderator, the community managers are also available to hear you out regarding any concerns about the guidelines or moderation.

mint steppe
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okay, thanks for discussing it and clarifying. I understand the rulings/opinions/outcomes from the mods.
But, it looks like there's been a misunderstanding/misinterpretation, so..

due to explicitly advertising the 'service' of buying an item on request to be paid for later
No, that's just incorrect.
I wrote, word for word:

"If there's an outfit you want on the AH, and you want to rent it instead..

  • If it's less than 2m
  • And I don't own it already
    I will buy it and rent it to you at the rates shown in pic!
    (until funds last)
    If you would, in the future, like to buy the item I bought in this manner, and I'm willing to sell it, I will sell it to you minus the gold you've paid for renting it."

That's NOT A LOAN. That's a DISCOUNT oml. 🤦 There's NOTHING BEING LOANED OUT. This CANNOT be a loan! this is a buy/sell/RENT......
Why am I offering discounts? It's simply a thanks for using my rental service. A legitimate feature in the game. Are we not allowed to give out discounts?! im SO confused
If the discount was any other amount, e.g. a flat x% discount, would that make it any different? No! it's the same froggin' thing.

I'm spending my own gold to buy fashion to own for ME for MY OWN collection. It's NOT buying an item on behalf of another.
I'm using fashion that I own to put up for rent.
ANYONE can buy my items, not just the renter.

is this not a regular buy/sell/rent interaction??

There's NOTHING in my original post that says or implies a requirement or expectation for the renter or anyone to buy ANYTHING or pay for ANYTHING later or at any other time.
This is NOT a LOAN. please for the love of frog this not a loan this is NOT a loan.

I think my post used Confusion and it was super effective! then it confused all the mods and myself and everyone else.

Again i'll just move to marketplace and word my post better, please also update the rules around fashion rental services. 😡
CHI ANGY ruairage

steel harbor
mint steppe
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If this confused the mods, then it's bound to have confused other people, so here's a simple example using car rentals. This isn't directed at mods.

  1. You want to rent a red car from the car rental.
  2. The car rental company buys a red car for the company because they don't have one.
  3. The red car is now available for rent from the car rental company by anyone.
  4. You rent the red car from the car rental company. Or you change your mind and rent a different colour. Or decide not to rent at all. It doesn't matter.
  5. The car magically teleports itself back to the car rental company after the rental period.

The car rental company still fully owns the red car.
The car rental company can sell/rent any cars they own.
The car rental company can buy cars to add to their fleet.
No cars are bound to any forms of contract.

  • The car rental company also sells used cars.
  • Previous customers with any rental history with the company are offered a discount for any purchases of their used cars.
  • The discount amount is equal to the total amount you spent on renting from the company, for the car that you're buying.

No loans. No obligations. Nobody owns the cars except for the car rental company.

Another example would be your rent.
Rent is not mortgage.
Paying rent doesn't mean buying portions of the house.
Paying rent doesn't mean you have to buy the house you rented.

Hope this helps as silly as all this is to say.

steel harbor
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While offering discounts won't get you banned, it doesn't quite clear the guidelines for the marketplace, so please explicitly don't advertise that discount.

We'd be okay with you making a note for users who want to buy a previously rented outfit to negotiate with you about the price. happy

thorn ruin
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Pretty sure she just means renters get a discount on an outfit she's selling if they rented from her before. People discount or sell below msrp or auction house price all the time. Don't know why mods are very adamant about being right. It's ok to be wrong sometimes, admitting it is a strength. Rental service is implemented in the GAME.

steel harbor
thorn ruin
steel harbor
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I will apologise that it seems like the word "service" is what triggered the removal of the post, but there was some nuance to the decision we failed to appropriately communicate.

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My apologies for the confusion shyfingies Advertising your outfits for rent as per the feature ingame is 100% ok.