#<deleted>

15 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

somber niche
#

I have two thoughts;

  1. Yes, please buff. Just some max damage, maybe another pierce? But thats it.

  2. No, do not buff. Soluna Blade has been top dog for a long time, and we are getting to a crossroads where we will need to see the next superstar two handed sword emerge. If Devcat wants to continue having Soluna as the Super Star of the show for 2h Swords, they need to buff it every update, or give it a massive buff(Maybe even with what you are suggesting) and adjust farming requirements accordingly. Otherwise, let it slide to #2 with grace. Its still #1 after Bri Lech, by a small margin, and actually seemingly more affordable than the Bri Lech sword.

Those are my thoughts.

twin plaza
#

Do we really need to buff an old weapon that was BIS for years? Do we need to buff it every time a new piece of content comes out? Why do ONLY two handed swords get this luxury of being able to go all out on an item that will never be replaced.

somber niche
broken plaza
#

Soluna is roughly same stats as a fully upgraded / enchanted max damage path 2h soul liberator sword. Only real difference is soluna has 25% extra smash dmg while soul lib has 20 but also has assault 20 too

twin plaza
somber niche
# twin plaza Yeah but it also still has extreme bias, one item class never needs to get a new...

There is some truth in that.

However, it makes sense that if the Time/Cost ratio is worse than the alternatives, then the time/cost should be rewarded.

People didn't spend years getting 1 sword by hand, or break their wallets to get the sword just for the next tier to come out and be easier to get and better than soluna? That would rub a few people the wrong way.

Until they make Soluna easier to get and the time/cost of another weapon tier above soluna to be worse than soluna, you are going to keep seeing these posts.

twin plaza
#

Soluna in general is a mistake, people complain about feth having the endgame weapons for ruin/bow to the point that the new SL weapons are pointless. even if soluna is way lower drop rates does it make any sense for the BIS weapon FOREVER (for only two hander sword). Like it had its run being BIS and even now its not outclassed completely so it has another 4+ years of life span. 8 years being top/almost top dog weapon in an mmo is enough. Why cater to it.

somber niche
# twin plaza Soluna in general is a mistake, people complain about feth having the endgame we...

I think you missed my point.

"Until they make Soluna easier to get and the time/cost of another weapon tier above soluna to be worse than soluna, you are going to keep seeing these posts."

That line suggests that if there is a weapon that is Stronger than soluna, but harder to get, that you will see no one post about Soluna anymore. All the attention will go to that new 2H Sword.

(Agreed)The mistake was releasing a weapon that was as hard as Soluna to get, allowing it to exist in that state all these years, and now you have these sunken costs and especially time to acquire it. To respect the time and cost, you have to buff it. Its the only weapon with this problem. However, I already named the solution.

"That line suggests that if there is a weapon that is Stronger than soluna, but harder to get, that you will see no one post about Soluna anymore. All the attention will go to that new 2H Sword. "

Read it again.

I can make the same argument that it was a mistake for Taiwan to create the Ruination Weapons but we are here now. "Daddy nexon" doesnt have to buff them because they are just innately better. I dont know about you, but I think there are many people out there that are happy they dont have to grind forever and pray they get the material drops for the next 3 years in the new Raid for their next step up, because they have ruination. They are big chillin.

All that aside, Soluna is in a unique place right now. The only answer is put a sword in the game that is big end game that surpasses Soluna, so the complaints end.

Otherwise you will continue seeing these posts. Until then... you are gonna see it, and you may even see the Sword continue to get buffed. 🙂

stone inlet
#

Also, just passing through, the Soluna is among the only 2h swords elves can actually wield. So that's one thing it has over the new weapon.

At least, until they finally give elves all 2h swords....
I'm really hoping they do.

vernal juniper
#

I think people should stop coping and just accept that their investment is going to lose value as time goes on as with all other items.
No one forced you to make the money flex weapon. No one needs the money flex weapon to clear.

If it were to be buffed at all, it should be behind a grind wall. It doesnt make sense to have a weapon be permanent BiS forever for free. Make some funny upgrade system where you need to sacrifice the new weapon/its mats to make your soluna better. (But then again does it make sense to specifically add an upgrade system for one specific weapon that maybe a handful of people make because they decided to make a meme?)

My opinion is that I dont care if it gets buffed or not, if it does get buffed then dont do it for free. Soluna would become the best money efficient weapon to ever be released if they do keep buffing it.

rancid void
#

The one point I want to make is that soluna is way harder to make the brie lech weapons. Yes the materials were more expensive for a bit but there are already enough materials to make weapons on KR. The first soluna took the NA server 1 year to make. We have averaged like 2-3 Soluna made per year since then. There are around 15-20 soluna total in all of mabi NA.

Soluna will always be expensive as long as running Alban SS is as costly as it is today.

While running Alban is much easier now, the cost of entering Alban SS has not changed much, in fact it has from time to time increased in cost as less people run the older content that drops Alban stones...

I feel like this weapon still deserves to be better than brie lech weapons, even though it is old.

I will make a better formatted version of this suggestion instead.

twin plaza
#

It is difficult in that it is rare, the places it drops from are in no way a difficult encounter by modern standards. the only reason its price is as absurd as it is now is that its hidden behind layers of RNG.

broken plaza
#

soluna actually gettin a form of buff. The soul lib weapons showcased to be able to get special upgrade level 8 in the latest livestream and soluna is planned to receive the same treatment

twin plaza
#

Cringe

somber niche
# rancid void The one point I want to make is that soluna is way harder to make the brie lech ...

I think the number is up to 30 or higher.

I do agree that Soluna, right now, is harder to make, but I do think the Brie Lech 2H will be more expensive in cost to build than Soluna, making Soluna the more viable end end game option between the two.

More people have Access to running Phantasms/Alban, More People have Access to Low Erg Crom for Profit, and More people have access to Tech than anyone will have access to Brie Lech's hardest difficulty. Drop chances will be abyssmal as well.

So I think Soluna remaining on top is fair, because there are arguments that make sense to continue buffing it, but we really need to have them either make that sword slightly harder to get, and buff it crazy, or they need to finally let it go to #2 and lower as new content is released.