#DD Newb

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jagged terrace
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Hi I’m a lvl 38 DD and I’m not sure what I am doing with my skills in battle .

Is there an order of skills to use for DD ?
I got lightning and fire mastery 20/20 .
And I am struggling with clearing rev hard rooms by myself .

upbeat girder
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What's your magic attack at? What's your int?
What gear do you have?
Are all of your magic skills r1 or higher?

full elm
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If you're level 38 DD, you don't have a link level above 3 for DD. Shoot for link level 10 at some point. Doesn't have to be now. It will not solve all your problems. But will solve SOME.

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You also will want a demo staff, and try to get it to blue special upgrade step 6 at some point, plus try putting on some 0-5m enchants (select protect equipment, use ancient or divine powder depending on how expensive the enchant is, and buy another scroll if it fails), get a level 100 spirit for it (make sure to have 100 bond before getting some of the later level ups because that will give you an extra ego point or two), use journeyman reforges or if you're feeling like putting up with this use both types of hope gems and then use the free weekly precises, get B or A erg.

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You also want stuff like elemental harmony or ceann bliana scholar. Yes all this will take tons of money, though you technically can farm ceann bliana stuff from glenn and make it yourself, getting the stuff to ensure your crafted ceann bliana gear will have the quality it needs will not be cheap and might not even be as cheap as buying the ceann bliana gear from someone else however, so research whether it's cheaper or worth it to craft it or buy the gear premade from a player.

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In total all of this stuff will probably cost like 400m or more.

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But if you just want part of it, that's at least cheaper. Like even if you buy all threads from players, you could get link 10 for around 80m. This is still expensive enough that it makes it a major pain to try out multiple arcanas before deciding which to use, but it's more obtainable and if you already know you want to be DD then DD is the only one you need to link.

jagged terrace
full elm
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You also want stardust, which might be somewhere around 40m gold, however grinding stardust is done on events that boost stardust quest rewards, like master plan, and the current event.

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From what you said you've achieved, I might be surprised you can even clear an RI hard room, you're clearly doing good.

jagged terrace
full elm
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For grinding gold in mabi what's most important is to find a method of grinding gold that you can stand.

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Most methods of grinding gold in mabi are probably things that most people simply cannot stand doing too much of

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As a result

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If you find even one thing that you can stand doing a lot

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It's a big deal

jagged terrace
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Thank you . I really need lvl 100 spirit , link 10 and some erg

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I will work on those

full elm
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It's basically working a second job in mabi for a while to get strong.

jagged terrace
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May i ask what is your playstyle?

I see alot of videos of people running around spamming fireball full charge while using dd skills

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Why fireball over thunder ?

full elm
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I'm rather ignorant but from what I've gathered it's kinda like this

Thunder:
Higher damage
More hits (good for getting spirit weapon mp I think, and also good for pragging, however I think they will make thunder count as only one hit in the future, lol)
Less aoe (bad if you wanna hit more mobs, good if you want less aggro like in glenn hm)

While fireball is the opposite
As a result, fireball at least appears to be basically a thing where you use it in less hard content.

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So basically I guess mabi's director discriminates against fireball and especially ice spear

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Using hail storm will disrupt your DD skill rotation unless you cancel it early so people don't tend to use it with DD

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And people tend to ignore Blaze and Ice Spear completely. Not sure how justified that is, at least DD links DO boost blaze. But people do tend to ignore these two completely I guess.

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Lightning Rod is boosted by demo staff

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Even then people tend to ignore it anyway I guess but

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Lightning Rod is still good

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Apparently they made it like nigh impossible to get dan 3 lightning rod though for whatever reason

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So in summary in content that is hard for you, you probably want thunder and maybe lightning rod if you prefer

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All three DD attacks are good too

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Polar Vortex, Shadow Flare, Thunderblight

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These three skills are basically nukes you use whenever you can, as long as you can manage to use them on the right mob and without causing too many problems for yourself or the party such as by drawing the wrong aggro.

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These three DD skills are WAY stronger than normal magic skills, barring Meteor Strike.

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People say Seething Mana is good, it can give up to 4 pierce, but my experience with 2 pierce Seething Mana hasn't seemed too good even in stuff like iirc tech hards and glenn normals, maybe you'll have more results than me though cause it's like all people rave about.

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You will probably also use Render Dorcha and Render Mana a lot.

full elm
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Besides people don't tend to use Polar Vortex on bosses.

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And on non-boss enemies, Polar Vortex alone can be sufficient.

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But Polar Vortex is small until link 10, and it can also become bigger from ice spear radius reforge, etc.

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To make up for your small Polar Vortex, pull mobs in using astronomy and then use polar vortex.

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Even after it gets bigger, astronomy pulls can still be useful.

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Meteor Strike is useful, especially with Time Shift.

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You will probably want techniques like dampen shock, blunting field, time shift, redoubled offensive, iron will, fateweaver, and if you feel like it, exploit weakness.

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And of course, pragarah.

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Bolt magic is mostly a wand thing, in which they use wand spirit and DD links to chaincast+4 fusion bolt.

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Even if you manage to actually freeze enemies with ice spear, I think this reduces damage done to them while the enemy is frozen, however enemies with a sufficient mana deflector rank won't be frozen anyway.

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And since they're not frozen, ice spear is not reducing damage to the mob supposedly, but mana deflector does reduce magic damage anyway.

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You can decide who to use thunderblight on by clicking or attacking the enemy first and then using it

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If thunderblight is on a mob, then using shadow flare on that mob will be stronger, plus bolt magic on them and general magic on them will also get some boost

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Shadow flare is also strong in general, so making it even stronger is good

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But shadow flare is not far from being a single target attack

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So yeah basically

against enemies who are not hard for you: just fireball spam

against non-boss enemies who are relatively hard for you: polar vortex, thunder, and if you feel like it thunderblight/shadow flare/lightning rod/meteor strike. You might also want mana shield on, and you can use render mana/staff spirit/inspiration to restore mp for it.

against boss enemies who are relatively hard for you: thunderblight, shadow flare, thunder, mana shield, and if you feel like it meteor strike/polar vortex/lightning rod.

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Nobody is gonna forbid you from using blaze though unless they are really impatient or something so I mean, at least with DD links boosting it, you CAN use it on any enemy if you feel like it.

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You can also use glyphs and potions to restore mana for mana shield.

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And lightning rod is mostly for after you have a demo staff, if you do use it.

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So I guess that about explains the basics

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Different content may require different tactics than this

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Just remember astronomy pulls exist and you can use them for polar vortex.

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You will still have a lot of frustration even if you follow most of my advice, probably, based on my own experience.

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It takes like every advantage you can get to be good in this game I guess, idk

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Good luck.

jagged terrace
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Thank you for sharing your knowledge @full elm !!

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I will try my best

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Nobody was bothered to tell me anything but you shared a lot .

full elm
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You're welcome!!!! I don't know that much but I hope this helps at least.

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Sorry nobody helped you, I find personally that people are not very helpful to newbies, at least in my experience they rather not tell them much, and instead tell them say 1-3 short things and then feel contemptful to them for being "lazy" if they don't immediately figure everything out from those 1-3 things or can't stand doing the lame gold methods suggested to them.

full elm
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@jagged terrace one of the best things might be to get a guild.
My guild is nice, I can invite you to it, but I heard dexian's guild helps newbies a lot too.

full elm
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Today my experience was that if I used the current event's 2x combat exp, the Frieren event's 4x potion, the +20% from the free vip we got recently, the elixir of happiness, the yellow prism, a remaining pisces starbright potion from master plan, an arcana 2x potion, and several rebirth potions, I was able to get an arcana (Alchemic Sharpshooter, but it should be the same for all other arcanas including DD) from level 1 to level 50 in 23.5 minutes by getting someone to do the Tech Duinn Revived Illusion hard mode first 3 orb rooms for me with the exp set to be distributed Equal to Everyone in the party settings. Which means I only got half of the exp, so if you do it all by yourself or manage to use a party with exp set to All to Finish then you will be able to get 100% exp and you won't need one of these exp multipliers I mentioned using.
Also to be fair, I didn't use every exp bonus I could have, if you have a grandmaster healer in the party then everyone else in the party except them will get 1.5x exp, and one of the divine link subskills can give you about 1.4x exp. So those are extra bonuses you could use that I did not.
I was told to use the elixir of happiness before using a 4x potion, because otherwise it may not let you use both. I don't know if this is true but I did use elixir first and was able to get both I think, so.
Elixir of happiness and yellow prism are currently around 900k each on AH, so they are at least a bit affordable.
Arcana 2x potion is currently about 13m on AH and rebirth potions are currently about 3.5m on AH so these two things are a lot less affordable, especially since you need like 10 rebirths to go from arcana level 1-50 if you use an arcana 2x potion and like 19 rebirths if you don't. It does help a bit that you can get a forgetful potion from dungeon voucher shop or events which will shave off at least one rebirth, and your natural rebirth can shave off another one.

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Hopefully this information helps you see how to get DD to level 50 asap.

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The elixir of happiness doesn't just give combat exp multiplier, it also gives an AP multiplier, so it's especially good.

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Forgetful Potion is about 4m on AH currently so if you try to get these off AH it's not worth it currently at least.
Of course all the prices may go up or down.

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There actually are some more exp multipliers that I didn't even mention so far, too. I am not so sure if those are even doable right now though.

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@jagged terrace You can also find a lot of information on like any aspect of mabi here, because it has guides on like anything.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oXG_vtjkVxWWxez9u8yINlVkEUezl7RnvymKnoCbfNU/edit?usp=sharing
Among many other things, it has guides on levelling too, which means you can find out about some more exp multipliers from there hopefully.

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Yeah he got the funny name.

jagged terrace
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I do prefer leveling up with rev hard

full elm
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Do note even if you have an exp multiplier as high as the one I used, if you don't use a arcana 2x potion it will probably take close to twice as long, since you have to use like 19 rebirths instead of like 10. So instead of 23.5 minutes it might take more like 45.5 minutes.

jagged terrace
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Compared to baltane

full elm
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Oh I also heard the gatekeeper baltane missiom is way easier to level up in than Nowhere to Run.

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And there's one more place that I know of that you could choose to level in which is Tech Duinn Awakened Abyssal Lord hard mode first room (where you fight tons of turtles).

jagged terrace
full elm
jagged terrace
full elm
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Well I spent more than I technically needed to cause I didn't think I was gonna use a arcana 2x potion so I bought more rebirth potions than I needed (still didn't buy enough to make it more efficient to buy the remaining rebirth potions I would need than just buying an arcana 2x potion though, which is why I used it).
I already had 6 rebirth potions before all this, bought 6 more, would have needed around 5 more rebirth potions than what I bought if I didn't use arcana 2x potion.

Now don't worry too much about rebirth potions though because systems like the Potential system (which you can access by pressing C and looking at the bottom) give a lot of them to newbies for free, and I think the growth guide and dungeon guide (accessible from the second icon from the left in the bottom bar) might also give some. You will DEFINITELY have more than enough rebirth potions for one full arcana if you didn't use these already, for free.

So if I don't count rebirth potion expenditures, I spent about 15m. Cause it was about 13m for the arcana 2x, about 1m for elixir of happiness, and about 1m for yellow prism.

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And I say definitely cause I had more than enough free rebirth potions to level at least 2 arcana from 1 to 50.... And I still had more leftover after that. And during these two arcanas, while sure I did have an arcana 2x potion then too, I made much less use of it then cause I was levelling in nowhere to run with less exp multipliers so I was levelling slower and couldn't make even close to full use of the potion, which meant I had to use a bunch more rebirth potions I think.

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What an arcana 2x potion does is it gives twice as much arcana exp for each level up. Which means you need half as many level ups and rebirths for arcana level 50.

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But the potion only lasts for 1 hour.

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You can only use one elixir of happiness per irl day I think, and it only lasts for one hour too.

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So it's best to try and get an arcana to 50 in less than 1 hour, if you are trying to powerlevel it.

jagged terrace
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Do you happen to know what would happen if i shared exp with a party of one but im lvl 200

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where does the exp go

full elm
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Depends. If you are the only one in the party, all exp always goes to you.
If there are others in the party too, and if the exp rule in party settings is set to equal to everyone, it will be split between all party members, so you'll get less.
If the exp rule in the party settings is set to all to finish, then whoever finishes the enemies gets all the exp. This means even if you are not the only one in the party, you could still get all the exp.

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We can add each other in mabinogi some time if you want, too. I was gonna dm you about that, but you seem to have turned off DMs for this server and you also seem to have turned off friend requests.

jagged terrace
jagged terrace
full elm
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I already got off mabi for the day.

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It's 7 am, my current bedtime, lmao.

jagged terrace
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is your ign snowball

full elm
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Nope. Thanks!!!!