#Cast speed reforges increase mana cost of INT magics?

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kind heron
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Summary: Upon further testing with the help of other players trying different staves, enchants and reforges we have found that cast speed reforges are the cause of abnormally high MP costs for INT magics NOT mana reduction enchants like I initially thought. My current theory is that cast speed reforges interfere with the mana reduction provided by high int (Mana Consumption and Casting times of Thunder, Fireball, Ice Spear, and Hail Storm are decreased by 2% per 100 Int) it seems the cast speed reforge breaks the formula in an uninteded way.

Difficulty: Intermediate, easy to trigger but fairly detrimental to the player. Triggered by simply having cast speed reforge on a staff (and probably wand?).

Occurrence: Always when casting INT magics with a staff that has any amount of cast speed reforge, cost seems to get higher with higher cast speed reforge level? probably makes hailstorm cost more too haven't tested yet.

Details: After testing with different staves with and without mana reduction enchants, with and without cast speed it seems only staves with cast speed reforge exhibit abnormal MP costs, strange ES doesn't appear to cause the issue.

kind heron
tawdry pasture
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its likely a cast speed reforge problem more than strange enchant problem
have you asked anyone with strange enchant but not cast speed reforge if they could replicate same results?
last time my friend had the same problem the only thing changed for her was getting cast speed reforge on her ruin staff

kind heron
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hmm I don't know anyone with strange on a demo or ruin that could test for me but I'll ask friends to reach out. if we can confirm its cast speed doing it I'll change the title and send another ticket. It could be that the cast speed reforge conflicts with the formula for mana cost reduction from in high int (Mana Consumption and Casting times of Thunder, Fireball, Ice Spear, and Hail Storm are decreased by 2% per 100 Int)

cedar acorn
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my strange demo doesn't have a cast speed reforge and consumes the correct amount of mana

kind heron
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thanks, it does seem cast speed reforge related then. gonna have someone with an arcane cast speed 18 ruin test for me later as well so we can rule out strange es

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Cast speed reforges increase mana cost of INT magics?

sacred umbra
kind heron
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yeah that looks higher than normal, if you had spell walk on the fireball would be 8mp+ I think

sacred umbra
kind heron
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ok so its not mana cost reduction enchants, cast speed reforge seems to be messing up the mana reduction cost formula or something

sacred umbra
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another weird thing is when I put on my mp reduction set effect (-10%) my spells cost half (fireball 7 -> 3, thunder 13 -> 5)

kind heron
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I sent my new summary ect to my current ticket about this issue