Human, elf, and giant… Who is the strongest race on NA and why?
#End the Debate
last terrace
last terrace
@stoic gulch Anything goes.
bright temple
They each have different potentials.
Elf will always have the fastest speed meaning if you can kill the enemy in one shot they move faster and are therefore better for things like fast clears.
Humans have Support Shot and Final Hit. They need no one else to perform their maximum.
Giants have better maximum stats at the moment. They do not have Support Shot or Final Hit though.
Elf is probably the worst race but you trade everything for movement speed.
Human and Giant is situational.
last terrace
@bright temple Does the 200 close combat max damage boost from Elemental Knight Arcana apply to knuckles? I know it says “Close Combat Weapons” on wiki but… because knuckles can use close combat skills does this damage buff apply? I’m a returning player is why I ask.
Ok because it can’t use the skills
I wonder if we will see new Arcana talents in the future
last terrace
Wonder what type of talents…
Archer/Gunner… Grants access to a 50 BMG Sniper Rifle
👁️👄👁️
arctic mortar
99% sure it's going to correlate to the talents already given name
Like Saint Bard is evolved Choir Master and EK is spellsword
And I'll willing to bet it's going to use different talents than already used, so no close combat, mage, heal, or music
Also has to use existing weapons
This is all speculative based on what was done with SB and EK
last terrace
@arctic mortar But 50 BMG?…
last terrace
Yes sir
Bang, bang
It will do 10000% dmg and always crit
Actually it will be a gunner/alch class
Using a combination of flash bang and heat buster your character will unlock new knowledge of how to craft and operate a 50 BMG Sniper Rifle
arctic mortar
Idk why you said M
arctic mortar
Also I'm imagining alchemy x archery side there's Bombardier talent
last terrace
That might be a good buff for elves
Since most humans will stick with elemental knight I bet
last terrace
Well it is hard to imagine what other combos they can pull 💀💀💀
If they buff fighter….
💀
last terrace
Can’t do lance. It will exclude elves
yet again… KR hates elves
Also the skills have to work with both weapons…..
They should do magic/fighter tbh
Shyllien mana knuckles were such a cool concept
which would’ve been awesome if buff’d
steep pine
Would be nice for elf's to get some love instead of giants.
rocky meadow
They should do magic/fighter tbh
Merlin for druid arcana would only make sense
last terrace
@rocky meadow We have DPS (element knight) and Healing Support (Saint)… So the next Arcana might be a tank or non-healing support?
rocky meadow
Thwres no debate to be had anyway
Its always giants
last terrace
But why? 👁️👄👁️
bright temple
Its really simply not always giants. The only answer is the inverse to this debate: the worst race is Elves.
The best race depends on the circumstances, but in the majority of cases Elves are worse.
rocky meadow
Lint's a giant, and i main elves, theres no fight to be had, ill just be splattered. Elf frail
rocky meadow
i regret that devcat did not have any kind of race balance sense since genesis, rather
In NA specifically, elves still gotta deal with lacency issues /w archery, so their arguably best skillset is... buggy, too
same /w fighter displacement
maybe 64-bit will help though
last terrace
I will admit I don’t understand how they can’t balance the game
That or upgrade the servers
This is 2023 💀
rocky meadow
maybe 64-bit will help though
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that is an upgrade in itself
would be nice if it mitigated NA latency in a significant way
night patio
; v ; elf... elfs are.. ok .. just need a little help somehow.. honestly dont know a good way to improve them and not making every race the same ...
last terrace
@night patio Buff elven magnum to be like giant smash and make elven magic missile operate on magnum damage + magic attack with faster skill loading but with a CD of like 4-6 seconds?
It would be awesome 😎
night patio
<@155168752323919872> Buff elven magnum to be like giant smash and make elven ma...
well that sound interesting to imagine.. i wanted something like those skills like the lighting rod .. something where you use your bow and shoot forward not depending on targeting ... but again .. i wish a melee style for the race. not more bow plz ; v ;
last terrace
well that sound interesting to imagine.. i wanted something like those skills li...
Can’t give them melee or giants will want javelin buff’d 💀
Yea the mag nerf
rocky meadow
They gave us chains... But made giants best at em damage wise
rocky meadow
Dagger or rapier meleee for elves would be nice. Or heck, scythe.
Older untouched niches that could be their own thing
The scimitar still sits forgotten
last terrace
Give them fusion intermediate magic 😂😂😂
rocky meadow
I dont want more magic elves are gonna be samelevelish at. Ice spear boon for elves still a joke
night patio
I dont want more magic elves are gonna be samelevelish at. Ice spear boon for el...
yea i dont like that for the race, but yea i feel they need make something that can make them strong and cool to play ... still i been enjoying alot arkana ele knight on link so i really not complaining that much, if they give us something else will be cool to add to my combos
rocky meadow
i tried EK briefly on my main too, but having to stick exclusively to a celtic axe doesnt feel nice
esp when other races can have both damage and a shield
night patio
esp when other races can have both damage _and_ a shield
double shield racial skill 
adding erg shield and spirit shield lol
arctic mortar
Elves have racial skill where they can shoot shields and it explodes on impact, damaging everything in a large radius
night patio
Elves have racial skill where they can shoot shields and it explodes on impact, ...
honestly talking of shields... i wish the charge skill can be boosted and faster to use , i always use it even if make so low damage
arctic mortar
honestly talking of shields... i wish the charge skill can be boosted and faste...
It's really clunky. I hated the dan test
last terrace
double shield racial skill <:pinkieOwo:741024778160439317> adding erg shield an...
Is erg and spirit shield even planned in future content releases?
sturdy aspen
99% sure it's going to correlate to the talents already given name
Lumberjack Arcana talent when
Most realistically, I can see them making an archery Arcana and an alchemy Arcana, but I can't tell when they would make life skill Arcanas
night patio
Lumberjack Arcana talent when
that will limited to elfs and humans , and kr loves giants lol so theres more changes for a lance arcana so giants and human can have it and elfs can stare at them at the distance