#Helper Haven (R.I.P)
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And I have a headache
WHAT DID I DO
Gn bestie!
YOU LITTLE SHIT
You can't really call him bestie when you do this, regardless of how funny it was.
Lmao
Increased spacing emphasises the separation
See
Or
helper haven with keon
Oh actually
helper haven with keon
There we go
This is good
We all do
Yo.
Yo
Oh I know what this is
This forum is getting dry so you need advertising again
THAT'S WHY YOU PUT MY NAME
THAT'S SO SMART
Ironic

When I look at the channel from the outside it shows up as "helper haven...".
Hmm
But from the inside it is helper haven.
How do I emphasize the clear divide between us and keon?
Can't.
Lol.
Why
Ridicule?
Just wondering don't worry
Helper Haven (keon ridicule room)
You need mental help
Not for you maybe
No I don't trust you
you're all my enemies
Why
You're turning everyone here against me
I have no clue what you mean
Your reading to deep into this
Its just helper haven
For snuff's sake, helpers, stahp bullying Keon. Systematically. @marble grail
Otherwise...
I'll show you a thing or two.
That is very menacing
And very non menacing at the same time
How does he do it
Keon just said some dumb stuff I dnt even know what he's saying
Oh this is interrupting my beauty rest
Gn bestie love you too!

good
@marble grail me - has farmed 75 lotto boxes so far.
Also me - has opened all those boxes.
oh rot 2 is usa for dps. i should get her to x/10/10
Still also me - poor as shit @marble grail
Tho I should do the calcs, but right now, I just need to rest
God damn I farmed
120 boxes in 3 days
I deserve sleep now
just dont be poor 
I farmed 75 of these things.
I'm probably the go-to NA hell example of how not to spend your lotto QP and mats and embers if you're new. @marble grail
you arent new tho
True enough.
Luci dreaming about you isn't enough? XD
luci dreaming of me is the dream
look at it this way
either nate pings me,
or nate spams cat gifs
this support list is an instant reject for me

Rude.
gotta be toxic

I LIKE SILVERS
I like silver riders
I have Ozy but me like Medusa and Ushi more 🥲
I’m not a complete noob
Damn, my Musashi fell short of killing on second wave of this 90 and the remaining cards didn't kill.
😭
It wasn't. The serpent survived and I got all Castoria cards.
Guess you just hit a real low roll

This never happened in the last rotation. I never failed to kill the wave cleanly.
Musashi sometimes fails clean kills on r1 90 too
I had like 2k more dmg issues
(w3)
I am talking about wave 2.
Oh
Yeah
The 80k enemy
It is normal
You probably just highrolled each time

Lucksack
I used arctic and once out of every, I guess, 7 runs
I find that extremely unlikely. Maybe attribute issue?
It would go to 4T
You should be getting the same damage as rot 1
Attributes included
No idea why this happened then. If this is the same as rot 1 this should have been an impossibility.
Are you using the same skill order
Yes.
They’re both sky attributes
That’s strange tho
They’re both 160K, basically identical HP
Both sky attributes
I’ll do a run to see if that’s the case for me too
According to the calc in Aralia's comps, it should only not clean kill on wave 3. There is no note there about the comp failing on wave 2.
Yeah I don't know man.
I don’t know if you’re just coincidentally getting back to back low rolls, but I guess just play around with it
i think there's something missing
It's strange that's for sure.
#JasonIsRelevantForSomething
Does Jason actually clean kill with only double castoria?
Me no have fous I have to wait til guda 5 
I mean, he gets 80% refund off waves 1 and 2, sooooo...
Oh that’s a Reines
you can try with no fous
I didn’t see her there for a sec
is this plug comp
Just hyper lambda
According to the calcs I see, even with Waver plug it involves carding on wave 3.
Un-ironically , that would work better.
Just make up class advantage with grails
imma hyper my usa

hyper implies 3 appends as well no?
Well, this time I still didn't clean kill but it had 5k hp remaining instead of 12k.
I mean the comp doesn’t clean kill everytime
If you just got really lucky
Like maybe too lucky

Hey
The odds are astronomically low that I highrolled every single run last rotation.
Sieg isnt that annoying
True but I did card the leftmost mob for 200~ sometimes
Like some low number
So it isnt THAT highroll
Oh you mean 5k
Ok thats a bit

Yes but I did rotation 1 90 for about 42k lotto currency and not once failed to kill wave 2 with np alone.
While in this I've failed to clean kill all three times I've done it.
Wow. I'm only at 60.
Yeap, Circe feels like a remarkably good ST DPS for rot 2 at NP2+.
APPARENTLY
NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Shrug.
She's not the most consistent wave 1 killer, but in exchange, her defense down makes her variants the most consistent for Sieg murdering wave 3.
All jokes aside
My first lotto
Is literally
Smooth as fuck
Ngl
LIKE IM CRUSHING THIS SHIT
Yes I save def down for w3
:3
My first lotto was a month after I started again so I only did 30 boxes.
You started in March mate. You had plenty of time to prepare.
Your first lotto is w Castoria
5 months after I started in JP was a lotto where I did my boxes.
Ofc it is gonna be smooth
Didn't have Castoria either haha.
You have JUAN THO
Literally who cares
Arjuna Alter even with event pmod in Karnamas cant clean kill w3
Shit character
Zoi would kill me for this im joking pls im /s pls
Yeah and? You ain't shy of having good servants either.
TRUE
ME SORRY
I HAVE SERVANT OF THE YEAR
I just realized rot 2 90+ is really easy to do
But I kinda wanna do rot 3 90+
But no one has mlb on saber
And I need the purple stuff whatever it’s called I don’t know what the name is right now
And that drops on there

ok my scuffed Sieg works
2/9/8
lvl8 makes the battery 99

And it is 100% clean kill
On wave 3?
bro

sieg is worse than skiara on w3
Oh
class advantage what
What NP is Skiara
Actually 6S +8
HOW
Min 2
mine is 2 l100
5S
i say this but i'll 5s when i get mlb
Issue of having low apples
I will 6S if I get a drop
Then back to 5S if I get 4 drops
Yes I have
80 ish apples right now
Guesstimating my bronze apples right now
Hmm I figure out tomorrow if my box needs r2 or r3 90+ mat
The life of a first lotto man is always a tiring one

I just wish his NP didnt make us inspect the Dragon
Watch this swag
I used 50~ apples on r1
I will try for 100 in r3
Life is good
6S +8 no plug card
Stomoe at np2 doesn't do enough dmg for rot 3 90+ final wave right?
Just Sieg cause
He’s Sieg.
Oh wait
Rot 3

Hmm I should build my Nero saber to use for rot 3 90+ so I don’t have to borrow Artoria’s for -1 bonus

Wait nevermind that doesn’t work

Idk
Probs not
Even Seiba fails
I am gonna swap my MLB to Artoria on rot3

Life is good
BLESS YOUR SOUL
👍🏻
According to this she doesn't.
ONE EXTRA BOX
Hmm I don’t know AZ to be honest I always like to check my math
When borrowing comps
You can only trust yourself

Yeah I missed the double Castoria
How
19k carding at lowroll according to Aralia.
Cause math right
Oh me bad at math
It is 40 runs

Happens
rot3 is one more box every 100 boxes
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

Just gotta pray and get Saber card 
I am trying to spread my apples to what I can do comfortably.
Well, now that I know rot 2 can fail on 90 for me I might just use my apples on rot 2 90+ to clear shop.
am forced to do 90
Hmm to be honest me no wanna take break
I need rot 3 90+ mats
But I have nothing to do for the next few days other than grinding 90+ with Nat AP
Understandable

Whatchu doin for rot3

Not enough stars 
Oh true
Unless I pray on pepega crit
Thats what I did for the entirety of rot1 w3
Havent failed as long as I had one (1) Artoria card or one Kama buster
Hmm should I really
If I have MC freedom, I could patch lost buff with arctic right
If you fail w3 it is 4T

? Not MC freedom
Wait
Will you pepega 35 stars
What
I thought you were gonna do New Years
Yes I pepega 35 stars
Wait no no NY
Yeah nvm
Dont do that
35 stars is too cringe
(Thats what I did for w3)
Star distribution is not always weight
Cards get random flat additions
So what happens if you get Castoria Q 100% Saber Q 100%

☠️
1 + 2 + 3 + 2 + 5
Then how many was Medea

Oh yes this is harass me room
Hmm yes I go sleep on this

I wake up with new comp world has never seen before
To infinity and beyond
I was gonna say you can try my or Choc’s idea but I forgot it needs self Saber or Drake/Beni
For the calc
Uh idk but I ran appended USA for both rots
So count that as yes
@wintry juniper don’t comment on it without calcing

What is the ce used
Smile and wave
But it doesnt matter even appendless can do it

6S
I’m trying to calc the node that usa fail to refund
I don’t know actually
She doesnt fail either
Yeah mine is 4/9/9.
You failed too azeem?
Yes on wave 2.
If we have 2004 2nd wave will hardly fail
@stray flame 
But this would assume a leveled 2004 no?
Mine would be level 1.
Level 1 should be fine
Oh yeah I think 1/9/9 doesn’t work on rot 2
Your extra ng will be enough
Well my problem is dmg on wave 2. That means I'd have to use the np dmg skill on that wave.
No, I save that for wave 3.
I see
You can try to ng up wave 2
I refund enough without it and getting no USA cards.
What no caster mob does to a mf f
It becomes 94% for me and then I use either the Tropical Summer or the Spendid New Year mystic code.
I'll have to consider it.
Your damage will be great in w3
AZ what is her refund with no Tropical s3, 84?
Because double castoria lacks np damage
Oh 2004 can patch 6% alr
wait what are we calcing?
Yeah I have no doubt it will. My issue was never refund however.
why are people in help asking for rot 2 comps 
yesterday, heck even few hours ago i don't think anyone was asking
because asking for comps after the round starts is the way to go
They all ask wgen the rot shows up 
Cause it just reset and no one is ready
They’re make us do their homework
Hm, if I S3 on wave 2, she might get to 100%, and then I can try another mystic code.


That’s the sad part
The homework has been done

My God

Especially when we have newest anniv implementation in JP
I was ready to burn my Artemis for Lunar Memories

Then @unkempt light reminded me that Nito IKs
i just got pinged from another discord asking about rot 2 

Ascending new servants gives rewards
Tell them to just try it on the field

WHAT REWARDS
I don't need to burn for it cuz I have 15 rp. XD
Pure prism, saint quartz, rare prism
So don’t be like keon
No this is investment
Play the game
Full ascend limited low rarity
Summer 4 rerun gave so many. That's why I have 15.
WHAT DID I DO
2 YEARS
WHAT THE FUCK WHAT I DID WAS RIGHT
IM NOT WAITING 2 YEARS TO HELL WITH THIS
how to get RP? dont be new 
True true
Lots of cap
It is okay Keon
Uh, only welfares and FP gacha exclusive servants give rp for fa in JP.
Me back to lowercase
Those are harmless questions
What is harmful is asking for comps when rot is up
If you’re not using 4
I think asking for info is fine
So you still lost Sq.
That isnt how it works
AND I THIUGHT I WAS BAD
If you’re new and you don’t know where to start
It’s normal to ask
Harmless questions are OK
That’s why help channel exists

[REDACTED DOCUMENT]
To help people achieve self sustainability
dot refund demo
🙏🏻
When I was new I was terrible. I'm glad I found out this server.
But some people treat it like some sort of lazy place to visit
I am pro now guys me don’t need help
omg what do i do for comps? Let me just ask help
That’s why people ask comps
Too lazy to think how to pick cards in a card picking game

Do you guys get pissed off when people ask if their comp will work then
Or is that okay
I think that’s okay
I hate that unironically more
Just try it
Literally
Test run it
Making is harder than trying
also the q when they ask help instead of looking up the wiki
we're not google search
I mean at least they tried
Huh???
What the

No i never asked
That is so easy cmon
keon be nice
Callyo are you mean JP helper
I’m one of the kind ones
Callyo seems less frustrated than you rn
But if you show that you’re hopeless

Me kinda nice in help to be honest
Cally p epic helper ty Cally 
Yeah thats fair ig but still pub channel
wait fuck np1 usa needs carding on 90 node 
welp time to go calc if spish refunds enough
Oh yeah wait
Oh my god too many clicks
I like newbies who try to learn
wait?
I hate newbies that are annoying and don’t show comprehension
like keon 
It’s extremely easy to know if the person is actually seeking help or confirmation
The reply they give after your answer
Determines it
Thanking us means they will go and read straight
Medea / Spish (np3+) / W / C works
wut
But if they ask the question in another form
im asking about 90 not 90+
I am fast learner
That’s when you know the direction is
I am smart
Oh
what np spish
For confirmation mostly
90 who???????
For example
Guy comes in and asks if Cu op
We say no
Guy will say “but my friend”
Confirmation seeking
Yes we shit on friend

Your friend sucks
ye the np1 usa double cas leaves some carding which can be poopy
It’s good to confirm
But when you confirm that answer is not the one you seek
Learn to accept it
One day I grow grumpy like you people

Who saber?
Hey Cally I just Grail’d my Gong to 100 because they said he was good at farming
What do now
Hm, I SEE WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. The reason I couldn't kill the wave 2 snake thing with my Castoria cards after the np is because my Castoria was only raised to 70/80 to get all her skills.

oh lmao
it's cuz I followed the advice in help!
It scales with the p20 and a40
if the comp relies on face cards to clean up after np
So yeah
Esport for whales
In her case it does.
LEVEL HER UP
I am a dolphin so it's fine.
Good thing i am in JP

I play jp too!
Lots of shit easy to do on JP
SO LEVEL HER UP
EN is weird
In fact EN’s claivoyance makes people weirder
The meta chasers become way more toxic

Hmmmm
Ah yes
I'd rather spend rp
The illusion of choice

en-help: clear cut pepega
jp-help: you get clear cut if pepega
Guys me wanna ask
Is buster looping overrated
Cause you can make same stuffy with arts
Buster looping is mainly just to say f u enemy comp.
It’s also easy to find out how people value it
Just bring up Junao or Melusine in the conversation
Same thing
And say they are plug reliant
You’ll know the person who engages is either a buster overrated person
Difference is, it still relies on enemy comps.
Or someone who knows what buster lacks
It isn't the same thing.
@bronze sand this is gonna be the worst rotation isnt it 
I know that np1 Junao is great for a newbie who has a koyanl
Like you can do the same thing buster can do with arts
But when i say junao is not the class agnostic preferred looper
Some people start saying i am wrong
I’d rather die

Uhhh
Junao relies on debuff to smack people
If somehow w3 resists his debuffs
genuinely dont know what to run for 3t 90 that lets me use arctic
Cmon but he’s very reliable
He will then sometimes fails
Buster doesn't rely on refund, which relies on enemy comp. Not hard to get.
So what is the next best option
Just dont use Arctic 
usa needs carding, spish doesnt refund enough
No like
but arctic and atlas are all i have left to lvl
Buster is just add up to 300.
Just don’t do it oomfie 
wait spish doesn't?
I personally think it’s best to just use all systems
And pick the best system for the situation
Put starting charge on Spishtar, bring double castoria, Oberon
I have had times where I preferred using buster system over arts
That’s buster looping with arts servants
I just feel like Koyan is just
Overrated
You'll find situations where that doesn't work.
spish is about 10% short sadly for refund
Why damage?
Buster can be more flexible for looping when you are against weird nodes
That was just an example
do you have append?
yes
Lmao confirmed Spish sucks
But at the same time arts can most definitely 6s a lot of nodes easier than buster
Ye.
So to each their own honestly
so i guess i suffer with usa potentially carding
No I’m saying arts can literally do the same thing as buster
this is for 90 ye?
yes
Quick is a sad mention here cuz it usually forces 5s
And buster can be better than quick if we do 5s comparison
Kscope + double castoria + Oberon
Not really. Like I said there are situations where what you described won't work.
Quick still works fine though
That’s 300% charge
People just copiuming too hard
Besides, quick system is now the highest damage
Cuz of m65 sscadi

Super steroid support
Yeah one of the sad parts about it
At least in damage section quick will do better than buster and arts
Cuz right now
Castoria comps lack np damage
So it’s usually up to looper or mc
Buster comps don’t have attack up
If you somehow don’t hit man trait
Or not using artoria
Your damage will be lacklustre
Hmm true
Junao still okay but he’s plug reliant so
@marble grail
does this not work?
t space np2 lvl100 ce250 p20 | a20 n20 | m100 ng60 | [lancer hp10596, lancer hp15219, lancer hp10786] [a20 n20: lancer hp16752, lancer hp21132, lancer hp81886] [a40 n40 n20: lancer]
basically save a castoria s1 for w2 and w3
Damage will be extremely high but the refund will be awful
No point in doing quick
save the castoria s1 how
using spish batt early?
spish bat, append, double castoria s2
3rd asc then
WHAT
That is ass
Okay I like ascension 2
Should I use the ascension 2 art or the FA

i dont like FA art
:rp:
Or :USO since Val
🚮

Imagine
yesss more arash bonders
I wonder what my Arash bond it
burning a 5* is 5 rp not 3
Hmm I’m bonding Spartacus cause he’s the only other decent 1*
Me no wanna waste bond
Well he started in March.
like if you have np2 do you get both copies worth
Yes we have higher en pee level Bunnytoria
think so
So he wouldn't have gotten any rp from reruns.
























