feedback-suggestions

[rapid peak]

Why do you play with chat filter on

[torpid path]

but now instant crafting

because im trying to prove a point

that this update was not tought through

0 thought

[formal quiver]

Keep the feedback coming Timvy, we already have a meeting coming up to discuss some of the changes

[torpid path]

dude

i can get so much feedback

something that should have been done by STAFF

[formal quiver]

Then do it, always welcome to hear it

[torpid path]

not your own fucking players trying to save a server

[rapid peak]

The /remove sucks fr

Are vendys getting a fix soon

[formal quiver]

We gather feedback from players all the time, some of the updates we have released seem to not be getting the engagement we had expected however

We're always happy to re-review things, as I said. Feel free to put as much feedback as you want positive or negative. We always are looking at this channel

[torpid path]

i dont unstand how this was launched

without player feedback and thought of the possiblities

when i ran my mincraft server in 2013, it crucial to get actual player ideas and feedback since they actually know what willl break and fix

[formal quiver]

Majority of the changes are from player feedback, from the server and the discord

Some I will say are not, we're always happy to revert something if it's not going as intended as I said prior

[rapid peak]

Bringing polls back I feel would help or even coming in game and asking PLAYERS about changes before making them to get an idea if the people want it to be added or not

[torpid path]

man im so upset

not just me

but a few are opposed to this

everything about it

[formal quiver]

If you can make me a detailed list of your concerns of the changes Timvy I'll be happy to take them up with Ryan in our next meeting, however atm I have to be up for work in 5 hours. I'll check on the list tomorrow if you provide one

[glad pumice]

swifty showed me some illegal stuff ban him pls

[rapid peak]

like what

[glad pumice]

u showed me ur coc

[rapid peak]

my clash of clans base is gas tho

Ryan JD is a real 1 bro pulled up to our base once and asked about feedback

Should force admins to do it

[glad pumice]

ryan L rizz

[rapid peak]

dfda should be an admin

is that allowed as feedback

[glad pumice]

yeah i got like 25 bucks and a eggsuit for admin

hit me up like i promise im good

[willow sedge]

@torpid path please don’t think we don’t care, we really do and all we want to do is improve. We can’t improve without feedback so maybe we can just hop in a voice call soon?

[civic depot]

numb

[celest swift]

So the Rustoria 10x is dead and i got a few suggestions yall can try n use to revive it. Id recommend reducing map size because the map size currently is too large for the small amount of players the server gets. reducing it would increase the chances of running into other players keeping people wanting to look for fights and searching for raids instead of having to travel a humongous map. Secondly id recommend adding events to the server like maze, roam, koth and etc. Not only would it start to compete with other 10x modded servers attracting population but because its rustoria and its one of the most popular names to community rust it would easily get population if the proper changes are made to improve player satisfaction and longer attraction.

[civic depot]

I agree with these changes

aswell as I believe that the map stlyle should change, but apparently that may not be possible, a little fuzzy on those details

when the server is popping, its the most fun ive had in rust, at least the US 10x doesnt feel the way it used to back in 2020-2021 when pop was 350-400 on wipe days

so many of us want the server to be great again, and would love to share more feedback, Me, @celest swift , @hasty sandal and a few others have many thousand hours on the server, and miss the glory days :(

an example of a perfect map that happened a while back:

[willow sedge]

Thanks @celest swift and @civic depot we are trying to make some good improvements lately so this is very helpful and will definitely be discussed

[civic depot]

Just bringing back up some old points weve put in here from before, might aswell get as much feedback in as we can

this was replying to this #feedback-suggestions message

"if I could gold star one of these it would be the smoke gernades, online raiding with even numbers is impossible on the server a lot of the time, because of how many turrets you can have, big bases, etc, smokes add something so that the raiders have some sort of advantage
online raiding on the server its kinda hard sometimes ngl, even for those who have many hrs on the server.
another Idea ive discussed before is the raid block health being re worked a bit"

[thin heron]

A little offline protection might keep the numbers up.

[celest swift]

I agree. it would give defenders a solid chance in an online for sealing the base in online raids vs larger teams.

[thin heron]

The Rustoria 10x has the most natural feel out of all the 10x I've tried. Events like koth,maze, and roams would help but I would say 1 every 2 or 2 1/2 hours to keep that feel.

[celest swift]

@willow sedge

[sullen mist]

ive not many hours that you guys have on 10x, but its my most played server around 200hours maybe a little more, and i can agree with one thing, the map is way to large for the amount of people

[civic depot]

And you play the EU server correct?

[sullen mist]

[civic depot]

That Is usually around 200 pop from what I’ve seen

[sullen mist]

Yea wipe day its around 200-300

but 1 day after its max 120

[civic depot]

The US one (the one we all play) is around 40-70

[sullen mist]

oh shoo

[civic depot]

So it’s a lot harder to find people lately

It used to be much higher

[sullen mist]

i agree with you

tbh i didn't saw that you were talking about US

but all your idea can also be put in the EU

[civic depot]

Yeah, all the people that spoke / were mentioned above have 2.5k hours (on the low end) to 5k hours (on the high end) on the server

So we’ve been through thick and thin of this server

Really hoping it comes back, in its prime it’s the most fun I’ve had on rust

[dreamy harness]

Regarding repairing during raids, this is not the intended behaviour and it's not something i was able to replicate. Please let me know exactly how you experienced this issue so I can sort it out

[glad pumice]

that aint ur picture

[torpid path]

You can repair after 30 seconds on any damaged wall/door, etc. it used to be where you can repair once raid timer was over.

Health regen is insanely fast, 75% faster to what it was before, let’s say, you break a wall or door, and they replace wall/door it has 1/4 health right. If you pvp a counter, 2-4 min later the door/wall is 75% to 100% healed. Which is super fast. And even if you shoot it to prevent the regen it will still regen
I tested this out many times yesterday with all the older players that I saw on the server. And they all agree this is beyond stupid, the raid is pretty much impossible, especially if you live in the forest, as to which a raid can never be done or finished because of the amount of grubs. But these are just examples, I don’t want to get into detail about every real scenario, but then again who am I

@dreamy harness

[glad pumice]

yeah it makes me mad in raid defense

hqm wall is 500!!!!!!!!!!

[torpid path]

It used to be 200 or 250

[glad pumice]

3 rocket wont break me but midst online its fucking awfull

nah it was 10 im prety sure

[torpid path]

Wym?

[glad pumice]

then healed up

[torpid path]

You want to be fully healed?

Fast?

[glad pumice]

no

i want it to be 10

[torpid path]

10?

[glad pumice]

yes

that was befor the changes

it started at 10 then went up in hp

[torpid path]

Oh yeah

I see

It makes it more fun

The pressure

The online

[glad pumice]

yeah cus when u do a big online and they spam walls with 500 hp its fucking awfull

[torpid path]

But not it’s dumb

That’s what I was saying

Dude I only online

[glad pumice]

same with high walls

they start at full hp

[torpid path]

I spend 300-500 on wipe day on those huge as bases

The raid will never be over if this was the case

Plus it’s only a trio

Not a fucking Zerg

[glad pumice]

atm raiding is prety much imposible if its a 3v3

sealing is just cancerous

i used 125 rockets out of 250 last time on a raid on just walls that they sealed with hqm

its just not fun

[rapid peak]

Add food to /s

[glad pumice]

kit autokit i think

it gives u 3 meat

[rapid peak]

That shit sucks

I wanna be able to /s real food that gives me Hydration and Calories

[glad pumice]

add burgers

[rapid peak]

The Trio 5x has it

[glad pumice]

5x used to i think

[rapid peak]

Make the regular 5x have it

[glad pumice]

idk why it got removed or im just trippin

[rapid peak]

I don’t think it did

[glad pumice]

i remember 5x eu used to have it im 99% sure

[rapid peak]

Needs to be added back than

I need to be able to sit in base for hours while asleep with full hunger

I dislike there isn’t a point to run excav on the 5x also the regular quarry’s have a higher value

[glad pumice]

its better when pop is high

but as of right now i doubt it reaches above 1x

which is about x1 better

so like 2k extra sulfur each barrel which is really not worth when u saty there for long

[formal quiver]

@torpid path Are you around at the moment?

[rapid peak]

The pop is never high

Maybe 1 time a year

Excav needs a buff fr

[somber aurora]

Please, for the love of god, admins, remove automatic tier 3 workbench from Rustoria 5x EU No BPs.

[formal quiver]

Already on our list to be discussed, feedback noted

[somber aurora]

Thank you Gareth, cheers

[formal quiver]

Which 5x are you talking about here Swifty?

[rapid peak]

US 5x no bps

[formal quiver]

Thanks, will take a look now

[rapid peak]

I know that the 5x has /auto kit for like 3 steak but I’m pretty sure the 5x Trio server has food in its /s

[formal quiver]

They all should have the food to my knowledge, might just be an issue with it. Will take a look over it now

[glad pumice]

can u add a system to /Skin where u can select ur skin and it will automaticaly apply on craft

[formal quiver]

Already aware of that being wanted, not something that will come in seconds. Already on the list

[torpid path]

I am at work sorry, won’t be around for like 8 more hours lol

[formal quiver]

Fixed

[glad pumice]

18 points 💀

[rapid peak]

Thank you 🙏

[formal quiver]

All good, was hoping to hop into a call with you and discuss your concerns

[formal quiver]

Doesn't mean anything when I can set it to as many as I wish does it 😄

[glad pumice]

😭

sorry anyway pls buff patrol helis aswell

they are terrible compared to bradley

[torpid path]

@formal quiver I know that it’s hard to make huge changes because you may fix one thing but sometimes brings a lot more exploits

[glad pumice]

also theres a bug with bradley that it respawns after 5 minutes

i dont think its intended

[rapid peak]

I have a question, Why aren’t smokes for GL in /s

[glad pumice]

lag

im prety sure

[rapid peak]

damn

[glad pumice]

or might just be cus players like me who only play to grief the shit out of someone

[formal quiver]

Not intended, passed onto the dev to look at

[torpid path]

But there should maybe be a blacklist on the tier 3, always on. Like maybe blacklist walls unless your at base, since you can literally hit a tree and spam walls everywhere during pvp

I abused this a lot

[glad pumice]

okay anyway anychance u can increase the time befor outpost shoots u when u hold a gun

[formal quiver]

Already aware of the workbench issues, will be discussed later on today

[glad pumice]

i find myself sometimes freezing when tping to outpost then getting destroyed

[torpid path]

And literally crafted a full kit bought bought cards right at wipe, and was at large 10 min in, when this used to be at least 1 hour for people and the trio groups to be prepared

[glad pumice]

also maybe blacklist the word wog like the n word

so u cant type it

since its another racial slur

[torpid path]

But I do like the faster respawns for monuments, like cargo, brad, oil etc. more pvp @formal quiver many did like this

[formal quiver]

As I said last night, always happy to listen to the players feedback. Prefer when they're as critical as you and you don't just get the "It's bad" response

Actually giving constructive reasoning to what the issue is and why

[glad pumice]

did the tugboat glitch get fixed yet

where u can make it fly like a copter

[torpid path]

I told hokae yesterday that I can get a doc with actual feedback from players that have years/months that play this server with functional changes to 5x trio that can potentially be good and beneficial. But was ignored

[formal quiver]

Any feedback you have or gather, feel free to put it in here. We read this channel very frequently

[glad pumice]

add hamburgers

i mean lets be honest wouldnt it be AMAZING if u could buy hamburgers at outpost

[torpid path]

@formal quiver haven’t felt this issue since I myself pay for most kits on the server, but bag times are op with god kit, but respawn times are crazy, but I mean it’s kinda part of the server, donations keeps the movement

[desert hare]

Hey Gareth on the new servers that you had put perm T3 on you should put some consideration on only putting T3 access in TC range of ur base then when your not in ur TC range like on a roam or sum make it T2 then if you enter a monument you lose all workbenches

[formal quiver]

Changing a vip perk would ultimately be down to Ryan. However I know for a fact it's far worse such as instant bags on some servers out there. So it's not the worst of the things. However noted it

[formal quiver]

We'd honestly just remove it rather than complicating it such as that, if anything. As for the in range of base that should be fine

[torpid path]

Yeah I’m aware lol, it’s tough out here lol

[desert hare]

Ya im good with they to 🙂

I hate it NGL

[torpid path]

I like this idea too, some restriction because it’s not 10x or 100x to have it 24/7

[desert hare]

And Gareth you should start doin live events. Like I know you have been doing mazes and stuff but you should do like drop 4 locked crates in Launch and out NPCs around and keep brad there. Then for airfield you can do a cargo ship event like drop 5-10 airdrops or what ever but they drop really slow

and talking about air drops make then back to normal speed

[trim galleon]

The bag time cooldown reduced in kit pvp and what not is awesome imo

can't live without it 😄

[desert hare]

Just try and do PVP events they make servers fun and people know theres admins wanting to make the servers better

[trim galleon]

I used to do locked crates as an admin and I know others do every now and then aswell

[desert hare]

ya the 20sec before was a life canger

[trim galleon]

Don't know when it was last done though

[formal quiver]

Doing pvp events that use pre made arenas unfortunately are not as easy as you might think

Trying to make every player listen to what they're told and be organised is not possible

So the maze events are used as they're easier to control

[trim galleon]

What gareth is saying yeah. Organizing a pvp event takes a bit of time

[desert hare]

well cant you just spwan in locked crates in launch?

[trim galleon]

Yeah we have in the past

[formal quiver]

Yes we can do launch crates of course, I started doing that years ago

[desert hare]

I say in lauch because people just build around then and stuff

[formal quiver]

We have some other things in the works, however they just take time I'm afraid

[restive kraken]

ok 5x is fixed time to change how long people stay banned for now!

1 week is NOT enough!

[desert hare]

not just modded friend

[trim galleon]

#feedback-suggestions message 🙂

[desert hare]

Back when I mained 10x and US Ima be honest I didn't see on event going on

[formal quiver]

We've done multiple events over the last few days

Shenny and the rest of the modded discord have done a lot as well

[frigid carbon]

We’re doing events now and than, you can always join mtm discord to be notified

[formal quiver]

^

[trim galleon]

discord.gg/rustoriatm

[desert hare]

ya Ik the past few days has been a big revival for modded but keeping up with live events is what makes them fun IK there's so few admins but to put then on but its should try to be a almost daily thing

[frigid carbon]

Also has giveaways and such !

[desert hare]

ya been in it for a lil was dead for like 3 months but IDK i wasnt in it

[frigid carbon]

Depends on availability , as we’re still having jobs etc

[desert hare]

Ya IK real life like why have one when rust is a thing

[frigid carbon]

anyways! We have an event ideas channel in there aswell, and go over these channels daily. Feel free to use that channel aswell and we’ll see what we can do

[desert hare]

[glad pumice]

try playing without kit pvp 💀

[trim galleon]

Hell nah!

[glad pumice]

i feel like bag timers should be default and kit pvp only give u the kit itself

lets be honest 90% of the peopel buy it for the bagtimer itself

[trim galleon]

naaa I don't agree

[glad pumice]

and it makes it almost imposible to pvp without kit pvp

[trim galleon]

bag timer is a perk, having it as default does not make much sense

[glad pumice]

just imagine doing a 6v6 enemy got all kits and u dont

u aint winning

also 5x 10x made for pvp

[trim galleon]

you can still win

[glad pumice]

yeah when i pvp noobs i will

but when i pvp people that knows what they doing i wont cus they gonna spawn back every 5 seconds whilst im waiting timers

mainly midst raid

a bed gives u 60 or 90 sec im not sure

and a normal kit pvp normal bag gives u 30

u see how big of an advantage is it?

[trim galleon]

beds are better wdym

[glad pumice]

no they are not

beds are 60 or 90 not sure

whilst normal bag with kit pvp is 30 sec

[trim galleon]

-100s Bed cooldown (20s)
-160s Bag cooldown (40s)

[glad pumice]

yeah with kit pvp

[trim galleon]

20 seconds

[glad pumice]

but i mean if u dont own it

[trim galleon]

oh you mean like that

[rapid peak]

I have 300 second bag timer it’s miserable

[glad pumice]

idk how much kit pvp is but most people log on for a wipeday pvp which will make them chose atlas or vital instead

[trim galleon]

Yeah well I still think it's a neat perk! I buy kit pvp every time I play and 0 regrets 😄

[glad pumice]

yeah for u its good but for people that logs on just to play and doesnt wanna pay money for that its a really big of a disadvantage

and it really makes fights imposible to win

just imagine u place a wall and u get tripled u insta respawn kit up

what will a non donator do go back to his base and run 7 grids back

[trim galleon]

Mm well just look at how many people are complaining about workbench 3 as default. Imagine if they gave short bag timers to everyone, would be a shitstorm for sure

[glad pumice]

whilst ur probably already out of the area

yeah wb3 should be removed

but the bag timers is a really big issue aswell when it comes to the pvp

idm if they remove a bit of the bag timer but default bag timer shouldnt be that long

[trim galleon]

What do you suggest they do instead?

[rapid peak]

3mins Vs 30 seconds is a big difference

[glad pumice]

make deffault bag timeres 40 sec

[trim galleon]

(not asking in a rude way genuinely wondering)

[glad pumice]

and make kit pvp 30

[rapid peak]

default should be 120

[trim galleon]

I don't personally agree with that but then it isn't up to me

[glad pumice]

well yeah cus u pay for the kit

when u pay for advantage nobody cares about it being removed

[trim galleon]

I don't mind it either way

[glad pumice]

well dont pay for kit pvp and try playing 3 wipes u will see how aids it is

[rapid peak]

^

[glad pumice]

with this i dont say that nobody cant afford it its just nobody gonna pay just to enjoy the pvp

[trim galleon]

I have played without kit pvp a lot, been playing here since 2018

I don't really care if others have it I just care if I don't

[glad pumice]

well im sure u know how anoying it is when ur enemy got one and just respawns every 5 seconds

[trim galleon]

Well yeah but that's how modded servers are nowadays. Many are "pay to win", rustoria is way better than many other modded servers imo

There are servers you can get m2 in kit pvp etc

[glad pumice]

theres many people that quit rustoria cus of the bagtimers alone and the kit pvps

and its like 50% of my friendlist

[torpid path]

I love to myself too, but for the people that can’t buy kits have a valid point too, but it is p2w at the end of the day

[glad pumice]

nah not really

vital and atlas offer 30 sec bag timers im prety sure

also kits gives simular amout of loot

but all i really want is bag timers should be reduced cus without kit pvp u probably gonna lose 75% of the fights against them

just think about it dropping a full inventory m2 guy

u tryna loot him he pops a kit pvp behind u

its fun if ur the one popping the kit pvp but not if ur the one getting fucked by it

[trim galleon]

That's how it is in a lot of situations

but yeah since I use it I can't really hate on others if they use it on me aswell

[shrewd pulsar]

if too much people have low timer on bag it endup on never ending fight too

like a deathmatch

[glad pumice]

yeah but now its all about how much u pay for kits

[shrewd pulsar]

that's modded

[trim galleon]

Yeah what I was saying

[torpid path]

A way to counter that is setting a home or tp to a team mate, because I know how hard it gets with the 5 min bag timer, but you gotta adapt really, that’s what I tell my teammates that don’t have kits

[trim galleon]

modded is pay to win

[torpid path]

It’s unfair but to an extent

P2w

[glad pumice]

it is yeah but very unfair for bag timers

as i said 5 minute bags gonna screw u over so fucking much

[shrewd pulsar]

that's actually the only advantage worth of higher kits

[rapid peak]

I thought it was 3 mins

[shrewd pulsar]

removing it would make them useless tbh

[glad pumice]

yeah and thats the biggest advantage ever

[rapid peak]

Add a bag timer kit into rustoria store

[glad pumice]

i rather have people with 5 m2 kits than 30 sec bag timers

[formal quiver]

This is now fixed

A hqm wall for example will start at 50 base health after it's placed

You also cannot repair it with a hammer, it will regen passively

[rapid peak]

Make a 30 second bag timer kit for like $4 on rustoria store 💯

[torpid path]

How fast is regen now though, it’s 75% faster to how it was before, same with metal walls and stone etc @formal quiver and the doors

Yesterday I bought like 10 c4, broke 3 hqm doors, didn’t haven’t enough, when back to base and came back he replaced the doors and were at 100%

[glad pumice]

or just reduce the default bag timers

[rapid peak]

If they reduced bag timers I think like 1 min 30 would be chill

[glad pumice]

1 min would be good

[daring plume]

Thank you Gareth

[formal quiver]

It's not 75% faster than it was before, we're looking at the numbers as we speak

[rapid peak]

Doing raids makes it a bit hard with like 3min bags compared to a team with 30sec timers

[formal quiver]

See how it is with the current change we've applied, and let us know the outcome

[rapid peak]

But bring back allowing teammates to kit pvp bag you fr

[glad pumice]

yeah thats why i barely do onlines anymore its completely aids when a defender spams 20000 bags around the base with 30sec timers

and keep trying to loot bodys

[torpid path]

I added to the previous reply, but I’ll test this out later, see how much it impacted being on the raid zone, because onlining is gonna be rough

[rapid peak]

it is so bad

[formal quiver]

We're testing it right now to see the time it takes to fully replenish health

[torpid path]

So repair is disabled for how long? 5 min, till raid is over? Because I do think, and from the feedback I got, people should repair maybe after 5min instead of waiting the 10min, since they won raided , be rewarded to heal, both parties are given an opportunity to raid and def

Part of rust, obviously if another wall or door breaks, timer resets as usual

It’s an idea that can make it fun for all parties

[formal quiver]

If you are in a raidzone, you cannot repair something you have placed at all (during a raid) until the raidzone is over

If someone hits a wall that was placed for example, the day prior and is damaged. It can be repaired after 30 seconds

Nothing is controlling that, it's default. If that is what you're speaking about

[torpid path]

Maybe make it 5min repair timer? Instead of the 10min, trail and error? Maybe people would like this better, but raidzone still 10min, to prevent tp, allowing counter to maybe reraid etc

[torpid path]

This is 100% right, I’m focusing on raidzone

Raidzone, healing, repairing etc

Making the dynamic of it improved

Not perfect but improved

[formal quiver]

We didn't make any changes to being able to repair at all

Only the base starting health of the object

Everything else is the same

[torpid path]

Okay got it

Understood

[formal quiver]

That being with the update we released a few days back, and the change I just did now

The wall as I said will start at 50 base health and start repairing after a short time

You can stop that repair by shooting it, or rocketing/explo ammo it

[torpid path]

Okay perfect

I mean that’s one minor fix, should make things a bit better for online

[formal quiver]

300 base health for armoured for example wasn't intended, just an oversight

[torpid path]

Got it, 100% a much better deal

Overall, i think no raid circles is good, if you are close enough to hear the boom you can counter if not you shouldnt be there

Now mainly next issue is the workbench

[formal quiver]

That's a conversation that'll happen later today*

[torpid path]

Thank you @formal quiver I’ll get you some more feedback regarding balances and small changes that can possibly be added or revamped later today, after talking with other player’s

[formal quiver]

[torpid path]

One AMZING AND HUGE fix can be adding a timer to using pvp kits after respawn, like maybe 5 min? So that way if you a player dies, he can’t respawn and automatically just pop and kit and get everything back, the user died, therefore the other person should be rewarded with the loot and not get killed in the back, because I myself abuse this so much , and not just me but maybe. A lot of donators will oppose to this maybe, but this should help prevent people from rage quitting over this. This would be huge, 75% of the server would appreciate this, even some pvp kiters would agree

[rapid peak]

Breaks the whole point of kit pvp because kit pvp is used to get straight back into fights

[torpid path]

It’s too op

[glad pumice]

nah i can agree with timvy

[torpid path]

I have every single kit on the server

[glad pumice]

its super fucking anoying when someone pops a kit pvp in ur ass whilst u tryna loot him

[torpid path]

And I myself have made many rage quit because of this op feature

[glad pumice]

99% of my losses is either a kit discord or a kit pvp

[torpid path]

You want a to get back into the fight, wait the 1min cooldown and get a kit traded to you

Or wait the 5min

That’s my output and some people have agreed with me on this already

[rapid peak]

Why would they have to wait longer than /s

[glad pumice]

swifty lets put it this way

[torpid path]

The /s timer is 1min after you respawn

[glad pumice]

u kill a guy with 250 rockets

and he pops a kit pvp in ur ass would u be happy

and u lose ita ll to that

[torpid path]

^^

[rapid peak]

dfda I’ve died to this stuff before

[torpid path]

Perfect example

[rapid peak]

I’ve experienced it

[glad pumice]

yeah and it gets really anoying overtime

[torpid path]

It does

[glad pumice]

and even if u love the server enough to not ragequit lets say the server makes a comeback it reaches 250 pop

[rapid peak]

I don’t think it should be longer than /s though if there was a cool down

[glad pumice]

then half of it realizes that u can do all that for 7 bucks

many will just leave and chose a different server where u wont get a kit pvp in ur ass like that

[rapid peak]

i wait to /s or get traded a kit if something happens or I have a teammate tp

[torpid path]

Yeah and that 1 min

But the pvp kit should have at least a 2-5min timer

So they just don’t wait on a bush or something

It’s ideal

It’s something we can all adapt too and would benefit the server to help regrow

[rapid peak]

If there was cooldown it should be less than /s

[glad pumice]

nah it should be equal or more

since /s is expensive

when it comes to fullkit

[rapid peak]

I can do the same as a naked ak as I can do with a full metal ak

[torpid path]

So 1 min cooldown @glad pumice

[rapid peak]

or I just /s a custom and grub them

[glad pumice]

yeah but if both have 1min cd after death its good

[torpid path]

Swift but the idea is to reward the player that kills someone, and give them a chance to leave, and not get killed in the back instantly

[rapid peak]

Yeah I can see if it was like a 1 min cooldown

But it shouldn’t be more than /s

[torpid path]

Okay well 1 min it is,

@formal quiver add this to your list for the meeting

[rapid peak]

I’ve owned kit pvp multiple times and run without it

[shrewd pulsar]

but why should it be longer than opening a stash and gearing up ?

[torpid path]

Nobody stashes stuff on 5x Marc

Nobody

[rapid peak]

You only stash if it’s boom

[torpid path]

They all tp home depo and come right back out

And that’s a fact

[shrewd pulsar]

for now, but you might just change the meta

[rapid peak]

I personally use stashes only for boom to continue to pvp

[torpid path]

Meta will always change

It’s a positive thing Marc, for all the players, donators to non donators get a chance to not get instant killed in the back

I have 3 pvp kits, 3. 3 chances to do that

[rapid peak]

Only issue I have with kit pvp is the insane bag timer difference because 30seconds vs 300 seconds is a huge difference

[torpid path]

You but god kit, elite kit, if you want instant bag timers

Spend more money, get rewarded

It’s p2w swifty and that won’t be changed

But balancing out what’s annoying can help on the long run

[shrewd pulsar]

the issue is that if you remove those advantage you don't have other reason to buy it really

you can add 100 m2's doesn't make them more worth

[glad pumice]

u can stash but u need tgo kill someone for it first

[rapid peak]

You’re making it seem like players want it changed a insane amount

[glad pumice]

and if u stashed fair play

since its part of vanilla rust eitherway

[torpid path]

You can respawn from a far away bag, while you run back your 1 min timer is up, gives both parties an edge for defense instead of dying instantly on the back @shrewd pulsar

[glad pumice]

but when u pay 7 bucks to just kill someone from the back thats where the issue is

every 2 hours so if ur not a complete bot theres noway u can lose a fight

[torpid path]

It’s 1 min, Marc, I think the reasoning is very valid

I have every kit on trio, and trust I abuse the perks when I can

[formal quiver]

We have no plans to change the kits at the moment

As for the workbenches on the 5x, they have been reverted as of right now

[glad pumice]

i used to have almost every kit aswell aside kit god and i know how fucking op the bagtimers and kit pvp is when u die and pop it in their ass

[formal quiver]

You will now require a workbench once more

[torpid path]

Are you guys worried about growing a pop and making more money on the long run or simply keep making the same amount of money and letting people rage quit the server @shrewd pulsar

[rapid peak]

Goat

Now add a kit for reduced bag timers 🙏

[torpid path]

Swift there’s plenty of kits for that

[rapid peak]

I don’t want an Ak Kit

I want just a bag timer kit

[torpid path]

You have, hero, elite, ultra, god, pvp, pvp+ builder, builder+, they all have reduced timers

[rapid peak]

I’m not on enough to wanna purchase a higher tier kit for to get use of it 1 day

5x No Bps US strives for the first day and rest of the wipe it’s dead so we switch servers

[torpid path]

It’s enough to get you snowballing, which is the idea of it

[glad pumice]

i mean what will kit bag change

its still 1 day use kit that way

[rapid peak]

cheaper

[glad pumice]

yeah but doubt they gonna add it like that

[torpid path]

It’s not gonna get added people would rather spend the extra 3 bucks for a reusable ak kit every 2 hours

Sales will be low

[desert hare]

YES THANK YOU

[torpid path]

@formal quiver please consider adding the 1 min cooldown to the pvp kits after bag respawn, I promise you guys that everyone would appreciate this

[civic depot]

It’s a picture of one of my teammates

[trim galleon]

I was trying to craft turrets and was like wtf 😂

[torpid path]

Oh shit, gareth is co founder, he’s number #1 for listening for sure

[willow sedge]

I listen too

[trim galleon]

Shared nr #1

[quick perch]

[civic depot]

Did you guys catch the input we gave on the 10x earlier?

Just making sure as it was kinda washed away by this flood of feedback haha

[formal quiver]

Is that the smoke grenade stuff?

[civic depot]

Basically just what we mentioned earlier this morning, the maps (size decrease and actual terrain), smoke gernades, maybe events, raid block HP rework, etc

[formal quiver]

Map-size is Aden, he does the maps

Smoke grenades, we'll re-discuss

[civic depot]

And maniak mentioned maybe offline protection, wouldn’t hurt

[formal quiver]

Events, working on that. Time restricted I'm afraid

Raidblock hp rework, already fixed

[civic depot]

What hp does it start at now?

When you place a new wall

If you know

[formal quiver]

It was at 300 after the change, which wasn't intended

It's now 50 at the moment

[civic depot]

Still a little low imo, but for sure better than before

[torpid path]

Add the 1 min cooldown on pvp kit after bag respawn please, I promise, that this is an up for modded servers, the community will be grateful for this

[civic depot]

NOOOOO

That is not a good idea

[torpid path]

It’s better than 3 explo

Why not hokae

Elaborate

I have all my props and cons up earlier

Bro I give you guys hundreds a month, and it’s coming from an actual abuser of it

Why not listen to someone that single handedly made many’s rage quit because of this

Growing is the idea

So give me a valid reason to why you oppose

[civic depot]

Why is it a good idea? It helps you defend raids easier, being able to spawn, put it on, and then fight again, sometimes it’s a last ditch effort in many cases and it just seems completely unnecessary

[civic depot]

It’s not about this, I just don’t have to agree with every idea

[torpid path]

It is, but if you don’t have proper raid defense, beds, lockers, who’s at fault?

[civic depot]

🤦

[torpid path]

And I’m coming from pvp aspect of it, if you don’t prepare your base for an online, who’s at fault

[civic depot]

I mean like, spawn at an outside bag, and kill them trying to seal, or kill counters so your team can seal

[torpid path]

Kill someone, make the play of your life, then boom, gone in less than 5 second from the same guy killing uou from behind

[civic depot]

And then aswell like you said for PvP, there is no reason you would need to wait a minute

[torpid path]

Would you like that hokae?

Be realistic

Your being bias asf

Not open to change

[civic depot]

Bro what

[torpid path]

We wait already 1 min to do /trade or /s

Right

[civic depot]

Am I being gaslit?

I don’t understand

[torpid path]

Why not add /kit too

[civic depot]

Because it’s pointless

[torpid path]

You are being gaslighted

It’s an opportunity

If you died to 1on1

Why kill the guy from the back

[civic depot]

It’s totally unnecessary

The # of people that have PvP kit is also very low

[torpid path]

Okay

Well

The remove the timer for /s and /trade then

It can be LIFE CHANGING when getting raided and have not kits

[civic depot]

You act as if every fight that happens, it’s rust, you will lose big plays and you will make big plays

[torpid path]

If that’s your repossessed

Make it fair for everyone

[civic depot]

It could be anyone, what difference does it make who it is

[torpid path]

It’s to prove a point

[civic depot]

Not arguing with you anymore, I don’t think it’s a good change

[torpid path]

You obviously don’t play enough modded to have been killed like this

[civic depot]

And you throw passive agressive comments

[torpid path]

And that’s the problem

[civic depot]

Not the way to go about it

[torpid path]

Changes from people that don’t play these servers

Dude it’s not passive aggressive

It’s the truth

Difference

You go to depo meeting , you’ll be thrown facts left to right

@willow sedge @formal quiver what’s your outlook at this, I don’t want an opinion from a user that doesn’t play modded, at the end of the day you guys run this not him

[dreamy harness]

🐧

[formal quiver]

I'd prefer you don't argue with one another, you're both welcome to an opinion at the end of the day

[rapid peak]

5x should have a better decay rate because I don’t think a base that was raided should be up for 2 days

[civic depot]

I have nearly 2k hours on rustoria modded, aswell as teammates who all have 2.5k plus and even upto 5k that I’m basing my opinions around

I’m not just a random person coming in here to be a dick and contradict your opinion

I don’t think it’s a good idea, and It’ll stay that way for now

Also nice delete

[torpid path]

Decay is buggy, sometimes is fast and sometimes it long

I didn’t delete maybe admin did

But what’s the point of have many agree with adding a timer as a feedback

And get pushed because 1 chat mod doesn’t like it

[civic depot]

Who is many? I can name at least 5 people who don’t agree

[rapid peak]

Well something needs to be changed because if I can’t /remove it I need it to decay faster

[formal quiver]

I deleted the message, becuase this is a place to give feedback. Not bicker with one another

[torpid path]

Things get get reverted

[civic depot]

The fact that im a chatmod is irrelevant

[torpid path]

I can share my dms to you so you can see the feedback I’m getting? Since I care about growing 5x but if it bothers you that I’m trying to work a positive change maybe I shouldnt do shit

[civic depot]

Feel free to go actually read my input from before, that I’ve been giving for a while @torpid path I’m not just a random person being a pessimist trying to disagree with what you say, I’ve played it for years, and I’ve got teammates who I’ve played it with / against for years, and we all have the same opinion on the changes

[rapid peak]

/remove should be adjusted to be allowed to get rid of bags and walls in a non building blocked zone

[restive kraken]

@formal quiver can we get an update on the current situation of groups like Susu and GwBk being banned for cheating multiple wipes and still being allowed to play?

[torpid path]

Not a good idea

[restive kraken]

over 8 teams were banned alone this eu long force wipe, a similar amount on eu medium too.

[civic depot]

WOW!!! Not cool

[rapid peak]

It was like that on the Reg 5x and ppl liked it

[celest swift]

Can we publicly know how many assoc bans these groups have?

[civic depot]

No

Bans are private information

[torpid path]

Wow I’m not a mod so it doesn’t matter how reputable I have to be

[rapid peak]

Aren’t you a trio player timvy?

[civic depot]

This is a feedback channel

[torpid path]

Yeah swifty, but trio and 5x are almost the same

[restive kraken]

there should be a public view of how many strikes certain groups have

who is even keeping track of it?

[rapid peak]

The remove change has now made them the same

[celest swift]

That’s my feedback with the cheating issue being so rampant the player base needs to know

[civic depot]

There isn’t and I doubt there will be

[quick perch]

We will never make bans public information

[restive kraken]

i feel it's more word of mouth

so how can you keep repeat offenders banned if you don't even track their ban history...

[quick perch]

We do

[civic depot]

Just not out in broad day

[restive kraken]

hokae just said there isn't and doubt there will ever be

[celest swift]

Instead it’s “well i think i’ve seen Susu get banned twice now”

[quick perch]

But we’re not going to make that information publicly available

[rapid peak]

You could /remove bases after having TC and be able to remove bags and walls in non building blocked areas.

[torpid path]

The /remove should work on bags if you tc access btw

[civic depot]

Not publicly

I Said

[restive kraken]

why isn't it public i'm curious

[civic depot]

We of course have a record of bans within staff, that admins are aware of

[restive kraken]

i have a tough time believing that. the folder on susu would be massive if that's the case.

[civic depot]

It’s not intended for other servers, aswell as people don’t need to know

[restive kraken]

yet they're allowed to play!

[celest swift]

Can Ryanjd atleast have like a stage where he public addresses this issue?

[civic depot]

Ryan has spoken about it before

[civic depot]

He has

[rapid peak]

I’m speaking about the change to be on the US NO BPS 5x I could careless about ur trio server fr

[restive kraken]

can you link me the message where ryan talks about it? i'm curious what he has to say

[celest swift]

I’m not talking about a random paragraph message i’m talking about a Q&A with ryanjd for the player base

[civic depot]

#feedback-suggestions message

[torpid path]

They’re setup the same swift

[civic depot]

There y’a go

[rapid peak]

Are you ok bro? Because the /remove was different between the 5x servers

[torpid path]

I know that you can’t /remove other peoples places stuff even if you tc access unless they’re a teammate

[civic depot]

This was a direct Q&A from Ryan not to long ago

[restive kraken]

i see. seems like a minor inconvenience for a greater value but what do i know i don't run servers lol

[celest swift]

But that’s a different thing!

[civic depot]

It’s not?

[restive kraken]

can there just be an increase on association bans or some kind major improvement to how group bans are handled?

[celest swift]

he was asking about a channel that says “certain player was banned” when all we want to know is how many times a group has been banned

[restive kraken]

7 days is a joke for groups that have offended multiple times lol

[frigid carbon]

We already said its taken internally and will be discussed

[celest swift]

^^^

[frigid carbon]

Literally yesterday

[restive kraken]

has there been any update since?

i'm not tryna play us main this week and get cheated on for a 5th week in a row

[celest swift]

Why is none of this done publicly?

[frigid carbon]

No, thats was yesterday

[restive kraken]

it gets boring playing against Lua kids and debuggers all wipe

[frigid carbon]

?

[celest swift]

“done internally” why can’t it be a public vc with ryan where different players can give input?

[torpid path]

Groups bring a massive player base, if groups are 100% gone, they move servers and then server dies, it’s strategic

[restive kraken]

bro ur a modded player stop typing

[frigid carbon]

Because we wanna discuss this with all admins aboard before implementing stuff

[torpid path]

It’s ideal to 7 day ban

[celest swift]

And then will their be a chance for the player base to also discuss with ryan?

[restive kraken]

is timvy trolling?

there's no way staff talked to this guy for hours without losing their minds

[torpid path]

And most people that are in groups recruit people that pass “cheat” check

[restive kraken]

i already lost brain cells after 2 messages

[torpid path]

So why should other pay for someone’s lying

[frigid carbon]

If Ryan wants to discuss this he will

[restive kraken]

dale spent 2 years looking for z1p, i don't think thats the case bucko

[celest swift]

This isn’t a scripting issue it’s incredibly easy to check someone’s pc for hard cheats.

This isn’t the same scripting issue that plagued rust 3 years ago

[torpid path]

I once played with a cheater, until one day it because super obvious and left him. It happens, got lucky I didn’t get banned for affiliated

Didn’t know tell that one day

Groups suffer from that

[restive kraken]

got some ground breaking news timvy

groups recruit cheaters because they cheat 😲 🤯 🤯

[sullen halo]

#general please

[restive kraken]

having an ego is more important than spending $12 on a new account and $40 a month on some cheats

[celest swift]

no one asked bucko

jk luv u

[civic depot]

numb, our feedback is in

[quick perch]

Try to keep this channel contained to feedback/suggestions please

[torpid path]

Why are people so close minded

Anyways

[rapid peak]

Reduce cost of cams and laptops in /s

[torpid path]

@quick perch add a 1 min timer after respawn to pvp kits on 5x trio or remove /s /trade so they’re instant too, it’s a fair trade

If it doesn’t work out you guys can also remove it

[civic depot]

bad idea

[torpid path]

Stfu hokae

Fuck your annoying

[frigid carbon]

Stop . Both of you

[torpid path]

I do see you pinged

[rapid peak]

15 points per cam or laptop is ridiculous can we get a reduce down to like 4-5

[civic depot]

You want to fight 1000 turrets?

[rapid peak]

pal 15 points is ridiculous

That’s more than you can get afkin

for 1 hour

[civic depot]

It’s because turrets are very strong

For many reasons

[celest swift]

My final feedback is to raise the punishment for playing with cheaters and to go public on the amount of assoc bans that large groups have.

[rapid peak]

Turrets are not a issue just HV them or break power

[civic depot]

First part was taken into consideration internally, and Second part will never happen

[rapid peak]

Add torpedoes to /s fr

[torpid path]

I forgot, airdrops on 5x were updated, they fall way to fast, not a bad idea at all, but can it be reduced by half the speed, to give players a chance to counter since they are insanely good at times

[formal quiver]

Will try get that added soon™️

[formal quiver]

Will be discussed

[torpid path]

5x trio map needs improvement

Stop adding outpost near launch
Better monuments in the snow
Better terrain to build, so many mountains now
Everyone loves snow, doing this will bring action to snow, snow has been dry lately

[formal quiver]

^ @cobalt cliff

[torpid path]

5x trio
Include /kit on command timer when respawn from bags

Hokae said no because you need it for raid defense, rust gives you mechanics to do just that, lockers, beds, the server gives more options too, instant bags/beds. Tp to home even though it raid zoned,

In the pvp side we need it, you can kill a 3 man group with boom, guns etc, you make a crazy play, and then bam. They spawn behind you and instant kit, and dead from back

Why have people rage quit for making plays, and get them getting that hope and joy taken away in an instant. I have 3 pvp kits, and I do this myself, and I get lots of hate for it

I suggest to add this feature, if people don’t like it then remove it.

Oh buts it’s p2w, this server is already p2w enough, we already get instant bags, 10 second tp, what more do we want. A small nerf to this will make the server a little more enjoyable

Oh but you suck at pvp, I don’t, I’m #1 leaderboards for most wipes if I play.

Just do it

(3 up posts have Feedback from 15 people so far) including me

I simply respond to that would be great, a yes maybe or no, we want p2w. Instead of getting ignored for the 5th time

[formal quiver]

Your post isn't being ignored, I just don't have a response for you at the current time. As we discuss this as a group not a singular person

[torpid path]

Thank you for acknowledging @formal quiver

[glad pumice]

yeah pls do that 🙏

i got many kits aswell and its super unfair when u win fights just cus u can pop kit pvp right behind them 5 seconds later

so they cant even expect it

[winter badge]

I'd suggest A channel with the list of the administrators, next to their name there would be their "specialization"( english is not ny native language I can't think of a better word for this sry), and this could help with answerinh questions towards the community, like if I have a question about map generating and vote who should I reach out to, like for example, I had a question about association bans not to long ago, and the 3rd admin I dmd replied only, and if I'd have known that some admins dont answer dms I wouldn't have dmd them

[civic depot]

most times admins arent expected to answer dms like that

anytime if you come to the discord, somebody (be it staff, or an admin) will help you out

only very few admins have specific specializations, and 9/10 its already a role on their profile

Ex, @grave turtle specializes in payment support, and its in their profile

[winter badge]

I mean true, but like the reason I suggested was that I rather asked my question in private than getting flamed by a the whole monthly community

[civic depot]

nobody will flame you :(

if you ever need anything you can DM me

and I can help you out

its different for every ban

there isnt a set number / threshold

this channel is for feedback / suggestions though, so anything like that id be happy to help you in #support or in dms

[torpid path]

@formal quiver

[torpid path]

They no understand the pain

[glad pumice]

fr

[civic depot]

it seems horrible for player retention, especially of those who buy those kits (pvp, pvp+ and godpvp (for 10x))

thats just my opinion, along with whatever I said before aswell

[round scarab]

plz add t3 workbench always being active on the 5x no bps who asked for it to be removed

[civic depot]

Many Many people

#feedback-suggestions message

here was the official change, you can read above if you would like

[torpid path]

I’m talking about 5x strictly, not sure where you’ve been at. And I also have all the kits? So what retention if it’s coming from an abuser?

[torpid path]

It was to op for 5x, maybe to much of a headache to blacklist items from being crafted outside the base to then having it reactive when near base

[civic depot]

any of those changes will also be implemented on the 10x servers

[rapid peak]

I'm pretty sure they can do changes based to certain servers

[torpid path]

why does it have to be that way? why cant 10x be 10x and 5x be 5x, theyre both diffrent to a certain extent

[civic depot]

there would be no point in not changing it on both for 1, and 2 "modded the move" is now including our 10x servers, which are getting changes accoridng to feedback aswell, the only real differences between the servers in the multiplier (5x vs 10x) and the fact that you need workbenches on the 5x and not the 10x

[civic depot]

these two are two similar and have been grouped for a while

[daring plume]

5x and 10x have always had some differences and it’s gonna stay that way

[civic depot]

I literally just said they did

[torpid path]

smoil on 5x trio, keycard doors are always open

[restive kraken]

i wish i got the same attention from staff that timvy gets... 😭

[torpid path]

i dont get attention'

i get all the love from hokae

[restive kraken]

bro you've been typing to them for the past day and they somehow haven't muted u

[torpid path]

im trying to help, just one dude is being immature

[quick perch]

he hasnt broken any rules, why would we mute him?

[torpid path]

i have broken rules i believe, i have insulted hokae plenty of times

not proud but hes my #1 fan

[restive kraken]

y'all are pretty quick to mute me when i speak passionately about vanilla 😄

just going off past experiences

[torpid path]

any admin on right now? im on 5x trio rn, testing the regen and healing

its still bugged

can one of yall login and maybe call right quick to explain the situation?

@shrewd pulsar

@quick perch

[quick perch]

what do you mean?

for bases?

[torpid path]

yeah

im here

with a guy

in game chat

[quick perch]

what do you mean it's bugged?

[torpid path]

testing it out

out

so co founder said everythign is at 50hp instead of 1/4 right

since it would be cancer to keep raiding if they keep sealing right

especially in 5x

well

regen is stupid fast

hqm doors ar at 250 health in placement after 4 min of raid zone or no tc

and max health in 2 min

and half health in 1

sheet metal doors

placed in raidzone is 63 health

and max heal in 45 sec

[quick perch]

@formal quiver ^ FYI

[torpid path]

you can just spam doors to seal like stupid

regen is set like at 50 from the looks of it

[civic depot]

it drops debris

when a door is destroyed

[torpid path]

no

[civic depot]

meaning you cant place another one right away

[torpid path]

if someone can come in

yeah but if you have an airlock

one debri will be gone faster than the other

i placed hqm wall about 40 sec ago

its now at 250 health

every 15 sec it goes up 50 health on walls

sheet metals doors are pretty much instant

its a better fix

but still gonna be impossible to online

any door that was broken can be replaced

just think about not having enough boom because you dont know whats inside

so you gotta run back home

get more boom

and by the time your back, its all fully resealed

with health fully recouped or half, and now you dont have more boom and wasted boom for no reason

but i give up

it is what it is

im done

[quick perch]

Fixes aren't going to implemented as soon as you recommend them. Please be patient so management can review and make changes as needed

[torpid path]

obviously, but i cant get into calls with ryan or gareth since i work in the mornings, you can only explain so much in text. i had a 2-5 min demo ready. i got hokae with his pointless opinions, like hes not there to visually see wtf is going on. i try to explain at my best in text and keep it short as possible but its all pointless

[quick perch]

well hokae is still a player, so he's going to offer his opinions as a player which is fine. but the only people who can implement any changes are admins/management - and Gareth and Ryan did say they review this channel frequently

So I promise what you say will be looked at and taken into consideration

[torpid path]

well im done replying or giving feedback to this channel, if you ping i wont respond, hokae has push me out. good luck finding someone actively trying to genuinely help and grow a server

[quick perch]

unsure why you are "done" since gareth responded to you multiple times today already and told you what you said would be reviewed. some of the changes you asked for were even implemented already.

[torpid path]

I stated why, I’m here to try to give valid reasoning, and try to give demos and what. And then you got hokae just being annoying purposely at this point

[ionic radish]

why are obvious Russian cheat accounts with vac less than 150 days allowed to play these servers?

[civic depot]

we dont monitor VAC bans, only Rust EAC bans

and our Gameban policy is 180 days from first game ban

[trim galleon]

[torpid path]

@formal quiver they ended up putting me of work today, so I can probably give you a demo later today if you’d like

[willow sedge]

We'll review this and revert it back to the original regen speed, but keep the starting health at 50. We'll also review doors.

[frozen warren]

where can look eu main map who know

[vagrant venture]

On website https://rustoria.co/maps/vanilla_main_eu

[rapid peak]

Bring raid circles back otherwise it just allows other teams to raid the other team while being at Oil, Cargo, or out doing something. Also it brought counters to raids now I see maybe 1 person show up and counter.

[glad pumice]

fr the wipe it got removed i got roam raided 2x

💔

i only roam my own roof now

[rapid peak]

Lol same I got raided while I was out also because the clan knew it’s just dumb

[glad pumice]

there should be a way to know if ur getting raided

mainly when u roam really far or do some big pvps tryna /home and u see that u cant

[torpid path]

Thank you, yesterday when testing the doors heal back so fast, ridiculously fast

It’s though, because no raid circles is actually good, I have seen more people try and raid more, and if you don’t hear the boom you shouldn’t be there but the offline thing is a issue, but I mean it’s like vanilla rust. I think that it’s okay @rapid peak

[willow sedge]

We have seen this too. We do have offline raid alerts via Rust+ for you, regardless if you have the sensors for it

[willow sedge]

Yes I can confirm we'll revert the health regen speed on everything, but keep starting health at 50 respectively

[torpid path]

Does it still work? The other day it was bugged for me and my teammate, I can keep investigating, and let you know later on

[torpid path]

Thanks Ryan, did you read above regarding possibly adding a 1min cooldown for pvp kits after bag respawn to prevent instant back death?
And possibly reduce airdrop speed to %50 to let counters have a chance?

[orchid bobcat]

why eu main not working ?

[vernal shore]

as soon as they entered for the first time, 6 people from our clan entered, after the restart only 2(EU MAIN)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[willow sedge]

Not something I want to do at this time, not even /s and /trade cooldowns exist on other servers for example

Yet we have that

[willow sedge]

You have to be offline for it to work

[torpid path]

You have /s and /trade on cooldown

[willow sedge]

We checked after you said and it seems to work fine

[torpid path]

I’m aware

[willow sedge]

Yes that's my point

[torpid path]

Okay, I’ll update r ust+ and hopefully it was just me

[willow sedge]

We're already going above and beyond, but call me P2W if you truly want, but the /kit limits is just too much at that point

[civic depot]

Agreed

[torpid path]

I mean I have all kits and abuse the instant kits that’s why I suggested it because I’ve made people rage quit off the server

One of my friends suggested bring back old back timers, what was that? Was it always 5 min? Because I mean I’ve always had instant bags for years now since I main on 5x trio

[willow sedge]

I understand your points and it makes me more aware of the situation but I'll continue to monitor it

Right now there's hardly any donators on the modded servers lol

so the priority of changing it is very low

[civic depot]

People will rage quit regardless

[rapid peak]

I’ve seen less raids

[willow sedge]

also changing things that people have already paid for, is something i dont like doing

theres many issues

[rapid peak]

Also Rust+ doesn’t work when people are online

[willow sedge]

thats exactly its purpose yes

[civic depot]

Be it dying to those kits, or being in a situation where they could’ve saved their wipe if there wasn’t the cooldown

That’s my view on it

You are gonna die from behind after making plays, it’s rust

[willow sedge]

its not up for debate guys ive seen both sides and ive listened to them

no need to continue disagreeing and going round in circles with whats already been said

[civic depot]

I’m not disagreeing just giving my view on it

[willow sedge]

and as i said, ive read it, but thanks

i get you're both passionate about this

but yeah arguing is not what we want, critical discussion is more than welcome

[rapid peak]

This is a 5x not vanilla rust

[willow sedge]

but when people are getting angry then its gone too far haha

[civic depot]

Mhm

[rapid peak]

The 5x No Bps Us is literally filled with clans who offline raid it just allows them to have a even higher % when raid circles are gone multiple people have been just raided while being gone and no time to come home and defend

[willow sedge]

the reason why we havent posted a change log yet is that everything is totally up in the air right now

things are not locked in to remain

everything is subject to change

your feedback is more than welcome and we of course are monitoring this situation

[civic depot]

Are the changes discussed that are applicable to the 10x being mirrored

[rapid peak]

I saw the biggest reason of Raid Circles being gone was because it makes “online raid’s impossible” but it’s just not even that hard to do an online raid with counters it brings PVP I’ve seen like 0 counters at raids since this change tbh

[silver venture]

please tell me when this problem will be solved ?

[willow sedge]

we are actively working on the problem

[willow sedge]

which changes in particular

[willow sedge]

lets try giving it some more time to see 🙂

[civic depot]

For example like raid block would apply to both

[silver venture]

can you tell me approximately the time of solving this problem ?

[civic depot]

The health with raidblock and those mechanics

[willow sedge]

not sure what you mean? the regen speed reversion? if so yes it'll be both

[rapid peak]

Like the new /remove is based to not make a team wanna quit but if I’m raided while gone because a team is scared to online raid us it’s just gonna make me log off for the wipe

[willow sedge]

there is not a time i can estimate, as it is a problem we are actively trying to fix. we dont know how to fix it yet, or it'd be fixed by now.

[civic depot]

The main differences between them is the workbenches and gather rates

[silver venture]

so far without success ?

[willow sedge]

understood, i mean from my experience and the data im seeing, im seeing a lot more players return after they've been raided now.

[civic depot]

But many things are applicable to both

[willow sedge]

yes otherwise you would be able to connect. when we are able to fix it successfully, you will be able to join.

[silver venture]

ta I ta can connect at any time , just to know when the problems will be fixed

[rapid peak]

I don’t have a issue with the new /remove change I think it’ll definitely help a team stay on but I don’t think most would stay if they are just getting raided because another team knows they are out

[willow sedge]

keep an eye on #announcements as we will post in there once its fixed

[willow sedge]

i mean its up for debate really, we can agree to disagree but i remain hopeful these changes will and are helping the server

[rapid peak]

I think the /remove should allow a person to remove someone else’s walls though

As long as a TC isn’t near

[civic depot]

That totally changed how the game is played

[willow sedge]

when someones walls are out in the open without a tc near they go within an hour lol

[rapid peak]

I want the walls is the difference

[willow sedge]

i see well theres no way to balance it

how can we tell you are removing a wall in the open when theres no tc there

versus are you removing a wall in a base that you destroyed the tc of

no way to easily check that, otherwise yes it'd be done

[rapid peak]

Fair enough but I’ll just wait out now to see if Raid Circles get reverted since nothing has being finalized

[willow sedge]

as it stands right now, full transparency, im liking them being removed. BUT, this doesn't mean we can't reach a comprimise in the future. few ideas we have thought of

• delaying the notification/red cicle, i.e start the red circle 15+ minutes after the raid has begun, if the raid is still happening.
• making it a chat message to you if you are online when you are getting raided

[civic depot]

Please no chat message

It’ll be impossible to roam raid

People will instantly f1 and then defend

[willow sedge]

well the main disadvantage about the chat message is that you can easily troll people

[civic depot]

That aswell

[willow sedge]

whats stopping me going to your base and shooting a rocket at it everytime you leave

[civic depot]

Agreed

[round kestrel]

Can we talk about how I send constant proof of evaders and nothing is done

[civic depot]

I think it causes a lot more issues than it would fix

[round kestrel]

I'd like to dm you Ryan if possible

Been 6 months of hard proof sent to 4-6 different admins nothing done besides two digging in but why did it take so long when I had more than enough proof

seems everything is just swept under the rug

[willow sedge]

If only players understood that the "100% proof" that they send to admins of game servers, is not always good enough proof

[round kestrel]

Trust me it is

And if you looked for yourself

You would find out in seconds

I understand the point you just made but when I have current gamebans linked to him old gamebans his current account

Something seems odd when admins don't look into it / he's freely evading still

[civic depot]

This is not the channel for this, please move to #support

[willow sedge]

For example, I had someone just like you saying these exact same words to me, sent me a clip of this "100% esp'er" "trust me ive done this for ages, i know when its a cheater"

The clip had him making footstep noises during spam crouches and a guy came round the corner and shot him. as an example...

[rapid peak]

This is why raid circles need to be back lol

[round kestrel]

That the admins I've sent this info to have done nothing

[willow sedge]

we always act upon proof but sometimes have a refection on the proof you have submitted and actually consider if its good proof.

the admins you have sent the proof to, have reviewed it extensively

[round kestrel]

Gamebans linked to his discord game bans from 20 days ago

And y'all can't link it to him?

Seems fishy

Shit ain't being reviewed that's why

[rapid peak]

Players are being rewarded from a clan being at a monument and not being able to defend unless we sit at base 24/7 or roam very close

[willow sedge]

i can assure you you are wrong lol

[round kestrel]

Then let me dm you

And let's see

[willow sedge]

no

you can make a ticket

also, please leave my feedback channel

[twin spindle]

steam auth timeout

wtf

[frigid carbon]

Try now, go go go!

[rapid peak]

You could do the same with raid circles and rarely people would do it.

[civic depot]

The chances of you noticing a raid circle on the map vs a message sent to you in chat is not very high

You will be a lot more alert with the messages

Too much so

[willow sedge]

Hey, so I have just personally looked into all your previous tickets, and all of the previous investigations on the players you are referring to. Over 45, fully fledged investigations have taken place into the players you are referring to. I am looking at the proof of their investigations happening as well, as well as the proof behind the scenes of admins looking into your particular tickets.

Everything checks out.

These investigations goes back a lot longer than your reports.

Any continued proof of proper value that is uncontestable would go a long way. Your proof you submit is minimal if I'm being brutally honest. I respect you are trying to provide proof, however it's just not good enough to issue a ban for instantly. No admin would ban from the evidence you have provided.

It is not.

Gamebans you say are linked to him are not gamebans linked to him lol

We are investigating things further as you have been told

[torpid path]

I’ve seen otherwise, really depends where you live

[willow sedge]

But we can't just take your word for it lol

[round kestrel]

😂

[willow sedge]

Look, I have told you everything way more than you'd get from any other admin here, your stuff is being looked into

Whether you want to believe us and be patient while we rigerously review this situation or not is up to you

[round kestrel]

thanks man

[willow sedge]

Now this has concluded, I will stay in touch with this situation personally and make sure it gets the attention it deserves

Please use other channels in the future, as I like this channel to remain strictly as feedback so its an easier reading experience

Looking into your other reports as well, you have seen for yourself how many people you have gotten banned in the past

It's not like we don't do anything here lol, we just have high standards of evidence

[rapid peak]

I’m around the map at all times and hear 1-2 raids. When raid circles were on the map I would see them all the time

[round kestrel]

Got banned off a dm and one clip cause taunted reported me

That dm was fake as well

But why even argue the ban

[rapid peak]

Also I want raid circles back for a way of being alerted if I’m being raided since I’m not near base at all times.

[willow sedge]

No I mean how many times YOU have gotten OTHER people banned

From your reports

[frigid carbon]

Why didnt you believe my dms

[torpid path]

Server had drastically decreased in playerbase, with all the changes going around. People are learning to adapt or move, I’ve seen lalot of new players that build near tier 1 monuments, a lot of activity around there. But it’s still a matter of people liking the changes, almost dedicated players haven’t bothered rejoining after the update. So mainly wait and let people slowly come back for more action and more onlines

[civic depot]

I already told you to post only in #looking-for-group

[sullen halo]

it only gives 128 ammo ingame, 🙏

[sour knot]

probably because they changed stack sizes recently

[sullen halo]

thanks for telling me the thing i already know

[vagrant hazel]

us 3x is meesed up big time

us 3x no bp is so messed up

[shut snow]

3x no bps is vanilla loot

[vagrant hazel]

pls fix fast

[shut snow]

please fix it or im gonna cry

[frigid carbon]

Still?

[vagrant hazel]

yea its still bad

[frigid carbon]

We’re on it tnx

[vagrant hazel]

tp dont work

[shut snow]

it still broken

alr thanks boss

[vagrant hazel]

ok thanks man

[shut snow]

phew its wiping

[vagrant hazel]

YEA THANK GOD

ITS FIXED THANKS MAN

[torpid path]

Nighttime seems like a popular request on modded, 5min night time?

[sour knot]

would be good ^

[torpid path]

10x has a weird bug,
if you type something, you cant move or do anything unless you press esc

[celest swift]

make 2x wipe only on thursday

[trim galleon]

Yeah Bump on this, the pvp kits should all have 256 ammo.

[daring plume]

Was be able to reproduce that! Will be fixed shortly thanks

[trim galleon]

#918302210293637162 message I made a poll about this when I was an admin and some servers had quite the majority while some were not too sure. You gotta keep in mind that a lot of people just play on the server and aren’t in the discord voting and such so could be a lot of people who wouldn’t like nighttime.

Me personally I’m not really against it but I do think I prefer it without 😛

[torpid path]

I’m against it too, but it will be different from other modded servers and can drive some people over to rustoria, I mean it would be fun, night time is fun sometimes but to long on official and if we were to implement, it can always be reverted, maybe a test on a wipe? See how people react

[torpid path]

Bootyful

[torpid path]

God pvp has 256 compared to pvp and pvp+, maybe upgrade all to 256?

[trim galleon]

Agreed

[torpid path]

Trashy how many hours for dedi player?

[trim galleon]

2k on one server

[torpid path]

Was it 1250 or 2500

Oh shit

It went up

[frigid carbon]

It was always 2k

[torpid path]

Oh thought it was 1250 or 1500 for the longest time

[trim galleon]

feels like I've played so much on the 5x but I'm still 770 hours away

[torpid path]

I saw the poll trashy on the night time, why hasnt it been implemented? It’s been a while now since that poll and people want night time

[trim galleon]

Well we wanted a vast majority

72-18 is not that much imo

[torpid path]

I’m stupid

[trim galleon]

https://i.imgur.com/9Irkhdc.png

[torpid path]

Just saw lol

[trim galleon]

lowkey forgot we even made one here lol

[torpid path]

Overall still good rates

[trim galleon]

so basically 3/4 wants short nights

Yeah idk, I wouldn't mind it being implemented for a wipe or so to see what people think about it.

But then it isn't my call

[torpid path]

I main 5x, and I hear it often

It would be a positive change

@formal quiver add night on 5x finally, polls have spoken

Has trio ever been thought to change into solo-quad?

[formal quiver]

No. We’ve had this discussion many times at this point at the current time not something we will be doing

[torpid path]

🫠

[trim galleon]

What do you think about making all the pvp kits have 256 ammo Gareth?

[trim galleon]

Not that I've heard of but I don't think they want to considering trio is such a classic

[formal quiver]

I saw the post by Smux I will fix that shortly. As for changing the other kits not at the moment

[trim galleon]

Alright, thanks!

[formal quiver]

I've just checked this and for the nobps 10x eu it's 256

Not sure which server you're speaking of as I checked the one you sent a picture of which was the 10x eu, I also checked the 10x us and there's no issue there

[glad pumice]

no boots 🤨

[sullen halo]

boots=noob

[crisp compass]

Why are their never any solo official server?

[silver venture]

Через сколько включат сервер ?

after how long will the server be turned on ?

[celest swift]

Please make eu 2x vanilla wipe only on thursdays atleast make a poll or smth PLEASE

[vagrant venture]

Please post it in #support

Keep this channel only for feeback and suggestions

[trim galleon]

Adding beds to shop on @zealous iris would be cool

[celest swift]

make 2x vanilla wipe on thursdays only

[trim galleon]

Add 8x to /S on @zealous iris

[rapid peak]

Increase clan limit 8 ——> 10 on No Bps US 5x