drifting fulcrum
I like #1120748524196335617, but its usage is a bit unintuitive / requires a lot of self-discipline:
That seems very similar to the old #showcase-archive , which is nowadays #1120122747348058263.
I was wondering if it could maybe make sense to try and allow #1120748524196335617 to take either of these shapes?
flint rivet
The forum format could be good for it
drifting fulcrum
(btw, I do like the ideä of #1120748524196335617 having a rather narrow [range of] topic[s], so I wouldn't want it to be part of #1120122747348058263, rather, have it be some dedicated (was this called "club"?) extra thing)
flint rivet
Agreed, I think it works well as being semi-focused
blazing walrus
I think this is a good idea. I would also want it to be written down how we can explain the purpose of channel to newcomers, before adding it.
Not my decision to make, but that is imo the main prereq here.
Make sure to check with other regulars of the thread to make sure they want this
slim cliff
a quick show of hands by users of this thread would be useful yeah
i'm not fundamentally opposed to the idea, the thread has obviously already seen a lot of use
slim cliff
Reddit without upvotes sounds like a major improvement
flint rivet
a quick show of hands by users of this thread would be useful yeah
I said it in the thread but maybe a mod should @ here there so that everyone who’s joined gets pinged?
pure mural
would probably be @-everyone, it shouldn't add everyone to the thread
but i don't trust discord
@-here is just "all online people" usually
slim cliff
Yeah, I actually don't know how either of the two would react in a thread tbh
drifting fulcrum
would probably be @-everyone, it shouldn't add everyone to the thread
Some searches appear to indicate it will only ping the thread members. Contrary to a role ping, which will ping every use with that role, irrespective of their being a member of the thread or not.
blazing walrus
I believe Melo has demonstrated this with an everyone ping in a thread before.
pure mural
alright, then melo or pen will need to do it
slim cliff
If @thick falcon is fine with it, I can do an everyone ping in the thread
thick falcon
yeee
go ahead
also, we could do a thing where we use the tag system
that way we can have a single channel for stuff like that and it can be shared between clubs
so lang-dev and dark-arts could benefit from that
slim cliff
I thought about just making a Shadow Wizards tag for #1120122747348058263, but you cannot subscribe to tags. So any post would still notify everyone in that channel, whether it's a wizardpost or not
flint rivet
It seems that Monad tried to ping but was foiled by discord
blazing walrus
correct, we're waiting on probably Pen to do it
slim cliff
i forgor 💀
done. Discord actually warned me that I was about to ping 40 people (as opposed to 20k), which I appreciate
slim cliff
oh shit we've been growing 💀
anyway, let's not derail and instead wait for actual feedback on the question to come in
abstract trout
I don't want it to be a forum
I like the linear channel, if people want to discuss it extensively they can do that in focused chats
drifting fulcrum
I like the linear channel, if people want to discuss it extensively they can do ...
In that case the #archived-showcase approach would be nice, right? It remains linear, while allowing for threads of discussion per post
scenic herald
I like that approach more imo, a thread per post without awkward UI
narrow copper
I agree with the Shadow Wizard Reading Club becoming a forum
sterile helm
Nah. No forum, just channel or like the old showcase.
scenic herald
Nah. No forum, just channel or like the old showcase.
any particular reasoning?
sterile helm
Because showcase, as is, is more fit for large projects and not smaller blogposts/crazy optimization stuff. I can't put my finger on why but I feel like it's the case.
pure mural
Personally, I really just don't like the unread notifications in forums. There's the little blue one, and then the regular gray one, and it just feels messy. (I know what they mean. I don't like them.)
cunning hornet
I agree with dawn, I don’t know why but forum unreads are much less good than channel unreads
but I don’t dislike them enough to think that a forum is a bad ideä
I would still like a forum
blazing walrus
bump
slim cliff
So what's the consensus on this one? It seems like people would like a channel where all posts are reading links and any comments go below it in threads
sterile helm
I still personally want that
drifting fulcrum
slim cliff
@thick falcon how much work would it be to implement this kind of channel? i assume enforcing a threads-only channel would require some amount of bot support?
thick falcon
nope, you just disable sending messages
should be easy
I'll take a look at it once I get home
pure mural
I don't think threads only is necessary. You should still be able to send messages for the articles without needing to click into a thread.
sage ridge
bump, I am intrigued
slim cliff
@thick falcon are you home yet?
formal epoch
bump, this would be really neat as a forum channel or thread only channel
slim cliff
@thick falcon are you home yet? :c
thick falcon
#shadow-wizard-reading
there is a small hiccup, in which you can't really post any links in there
but you can create threads
I dunno if a bot command for this would be useful
but that's up to how it feels for y'all
lyric siren
is there a reason why it isn't a forum channel?
blazing walrus
I think forums are worse for this, since they obscure chronological ordering more than a text-channel-full-of-threads
I know I've heard ambient negative impressions of forum channels from some members of the thread this channel was made for, which is enough on its own when nobody specifically wanted a forum
Anyway, Melo probably just read through the latest posts about this and made an educated guess which would be better received
One comment I do have is that the first message in #shadow-wizard-reading should link the original thread
slim cliff
having a good memory of the discussion here, I agree that there were strong objections to a proper forum channel, and we agreed on making a channel-of-threads by the time consensus was reached
@thick falcon could you link #1120748524196335617 in the first post of #shadow-wizard-reading ?
just to preserve history
drifting fulcrum
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there is a small hiccup, in which you can't really post...
Thanks! 
drifting fulcrum
I dunno if a bot command for this would be useful
I think it would, similar to how #showcase-archive worked: it allows "the main post" to be directly readable in the main feed, whereas right now we only get a flimsy thread title 
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I reckon getting bot integration there requires substantial more effort than "just" creäting a thread-only channel, so no rush on that feature, getting the channel already first has done most of the job for a fraction of the effort 
💡 Actually, for "a fraction of the effort", we could take the #emoji-and-stickers-submissions approach: put a severe slow-mode in there + at least one moderator to remove non-proper posts or smth like that, and let authors fork a thread off their post
slim cliff
That does sound doable to me, not sure what the others think
pure mural
works for me