#World Class Final Predictions
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I mean I’ve seen the entire show and tbh I don’t even think it’s yalls fault
Staff is screwing up your show
glassmen has it in the bag this year
1 crown
2 Boston
3 bluecoats
4 Blue devils
5 phantom
6 scv
7 mandarins
8 colts
9 through 12 no longer go to finals, only top 8
The one thing I absolutely cannot see happening is bd dropping out of top 3
my points are that the top 3 will be the same groups as last year, just a different order, and that boston will not win the sanford.
and either PC or spirit in finals, leaning more towards PC
- Boston
- BD
- Bloo
- Crown
- SCV
- Phantom
- Mandarins
- Blue stars
- Cavs
- Colts
- Troop
- Spirit
Splanta mentioned
I saw them rehearse Friday. Heat
bd is either getting 3rd or 4th
I see Top 4 being typical top 4 and seeing any of them being anywhere in the top 4
i can't see bloo or bac anywhere but top 2
I can see Bloo being Top 3
BD being 1-4
BAC being 1-3
Crown being 1-4
But that's me
And I am a Bloo fan over the other top 4 groups
Yeah I meant 2-5 for Crown. I don't think they have what it takes to win and ofc I can see Phantom or SCV beating them
It would be CRAZY to say Crown could get 6th but...
6th isn’t that crazy
I haven’t seen Mandies or SCV or phantom and they all have some pretty good momentum
I don't see Mandies beating Crown
Yeah I messed up on that message.
I wanna see phantom top 3
I was thinking placements between those 4 groups
I want to see like someone in top 3 idc who bc it’s all fucking fire
I feel like this year there are more fun shows than last year
I will die on the hill that Boston and BD will get top 2
Just from what I have seen
All that I can say about my own show. It’s better
Fun show too
Qhat group?
Raiders
Raiders
Mmmmmm
Microwave
Like I super badly want to talk about my show
I’m going to have to wait till dci Grand Prix bc that is Flo marching
All I can say for Splanta is that their music is SUPER fun
And it's another possible fan favorite for the Regionals
Idk if we’re going to be fan favorite but we’re my favorite
I saw they’re first 7 minute
Serious predictions only
I saw crown live last night, not sure how they will place, but they are better than the last 2 years, substantially.
Yup. Talent is always great there, show this year is better than 23 and 24 easily.
idk man
GOD'S HORNLINE IS BACK???????
they didnt really sound that crazy in the crown live leak i saw
they don't
DCI Finals Predictions
1-Blue Devils
2-Boston Crusaders
3-Bluecoats
4-Crown
5-Phantom
6-SCV
7- Blue Stars
8-Mandarin’s
9-Cavalier’s
10-Colts
11-Troopers
12-Scouts🙏
13-Crossmen
14-Pacific Crest
15-Spirit of Atlanta
16-Blue Knights
17-Music City
18-Academy
19-Spartans
20-Blue Devils B
21-Genesis
22-Seattle Cascades
23-Gold
24-Columbians
25-The Battalion
26-River City Rhythm
27-Raiders
28-Colt Cadets
29-7th Regiment
30-Les Stentors
(i know it includes open class, im doing my top to bottom prediction)
Dw oc is good
This is a solid list
I like it
Bdb not going to Indy though 😭😭
Womp womp ig
- Blue Devils
- Bluecoats
- BAC
- Phantom
- Vanguard
- Crown
- Mandarins
- Cavaliers
- Blue Stars
- Colts
- Pacific Crest
- Troop
- Crossmen
- Spirit
- Scouts
- Music City
- BK
- Spartans
- Cascades
- Genesis
- Gold
- The Battalion
- Colombians
- Raiders
- RCR
- Colt Cadets
- 7th Regiment
- Stentors
scouts in 15th wow
im seeing so many saying madison is not returning to finals
is this just a vibes thing
For me personally, I’m up in the air about the repertoire
It’s either going to be really awesome or the opposite
1: Bloo (GE, Vis)
2: BAC (Guard)
3: Crown (brass)
4: BD
5: SCV (Perc)
6: Phantom
7: Mandies
8: Troop
9: Blue Stars
10: Colts
11: PC
12: Cavies
PC 11th is bold
We'll see at the beginning of the season
PC over Cavies is wild
Fym “not this tbh”
It’s a prediction
your opinion is wrong obviously
Well 2 people liked it and grace’s reaction doesn’t count
Do you think that Crown can beat BD ?
I've seen both shows on YT and I think it's possible
man if you could hear those two hornlines side by side. lol
HELL NO
Doubtful tbh
Saying that Crown has a 4th place show isn’t even an insult it’s defo a compliment
Maybe I’m just delusional but the top 3 has been locked in place for me
As someone in pc I wouldn’t say that it’s a pretty good call
I see crown, phantom, SCV, and Mandies in competition with eachother
I have my ideas on how it will be ordered but in general those are my 4-7
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- Crown/Boston
- Boston/Crown
- Bloo
- BD
- Phantom
- SCV
- Mandarins
- Cavaliers
- Blue Stars
- Colts
- Troopers
- Crossmen
my boiling take
- Boston
- BD
- Phantom
- Bloo
- Crown
- Mandarins
- SCV
- Cavaliers
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Colts
- Crossmen/Scouts
crown lol
- Boston Crusaders
- Bluecoats
- Blue Devils
- Carolina Crown
- Phantom
- SCV
- Mandarins
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Cavaliers
- Colts
- Madison Scouts
- Pacific Crest
- Spirit of Atlanta
- Crossmen
- Blue Knights
- Music City
- The Academy
- Genesis
- Cascades
- Crusaders 98.65
- Bloo 98.55
- Phantom 96.7
- Crown 96.3
- Bluedevils 96
- Vanguard 95.25
- Mandarins 94.8
- Troopers 92.5
- Cavaliers 90.4
- Stars 89.5
- Colts 89.25
- Spirit 87.65
- Crest 86.55
- Scouts 85.7
- Blue knights 85
- Crossmen 84.7
- Academy 82.2
- Music city 80.5
- Genesis 78.7
- Cascades 78.5
I’ve made small adjustments
Most notably crown being higher and bd being lower
Mostly because I don’t like what I saw from the bd leaks
blue devils fifth!!
in their fifty years of competition in the drum corps international circuit, bd has placed below fourth an entirety of three times
the last time being in 1991 where they placed fifth
the other two sub-4th placements having happened in the first and second years they ever traveled to compete in dci finals
imma stick to my word
no matter how wrong i am
i do think BD in 4th or 5th isnt out of the picture though
thats a slightly less boiling take
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility
But I haven't seen boston or bloo yet
Crown is coming in strong
i think it is out of the realm of possibility
The show isn't bad
They're definitely going to be in the top 3 somewhere unless the others just have way better products
crown 4th. at the most
i feel more comfortable with 5th
if bd gets 4th, i will donate $50 to a charity of ryland's choosing
if crown at any point this summer beats bd, i will donate another $50
if they come within 0.5 of a point past july 15th, i will donate another $15
you can hold me to this im making dough and would not be upset with making a donation. im just very confident
realistically lowest bd is going is 4th
I just really don’t like this show 😭
blue devils have not placed below 3rd in 30 years
i see no reason why this would stop now
nvm i got that wrong
they've placed below third once in the past thirty years and have not placed below third in the past 19 years
change is everything brochacho
But I said pretty please 👉🏼👈🏼 (with a cherry on top)
you didn't add the cherry on top
during this time they've won two bronze medals, six silver medals, and ten gold medals
wait am I stupid this is self contradictory
did they place below third 20 years ago or 30
they've placed below third once in the past thirty years which was 2005
since then they have not placed below third
so in the thirty years since they placed fourth in 1993, they've only placed below third once, in 2005. in the 19 years of competitive seasons following 2005, they've medaled every year
You really love gambling don’t you
Of the 3 pinned messages in here 2 of them are you and the other is an announcement
This is very far out there, but here’s my prediction:
(please note, any 2 names with a slash are toss-ups in my mind)
- Boston
- Bloo
- BD
- Phantom/Crown
- Crown/Phantom
- Vanguard
- Mandarins
- Troopers
- Cavaliers
- Stars/Colts
- Scouts
- Atlanta/Crossmen
that's basically my ranking
although i'm not sure where to put scouts
actually I'd maybe swap stars and troopers
Honestly, I’m kinda hoping that either the Crossmen or Spirit can make it to Finals. It’s been quite some time since either of them have made it. Over a decade for each, right? 🤔
Both of them are coming in very strong
But so is PC
so 12th is going to be even more of a bloodbath than it usually is
I can never tell when people leave Colts out if they think they’re dropping out of finals or just up and forgot them 😶
I’d make a joke about Star of Indiana coming back and making 12th, but I’m gonna refrain since this is for serious conversations only. 😅
they're the new glassmen
I’ll be honest, I honestly forget about them. I don’t intend to, but they just slip through the cracks somehow. 😓
Colts outta top 12?
Spirit mentioned
Oh yeah Colts often get forgotten.
No one talks about them like we do other groups
I have my doubts tbh, but I’ll change my predictions.
Yeah I haven't recieved any videos and they haven't posted anything
Crossmen made finals in 19
Last time spirit was in finals was 2013
That is a pretty insane take
- Boston
- phantom
- Bd
- Bloo
- Crown
- Scv
- Cavs
- Mandies
- Spirit
10.blue stars - Colts
- Troop
Serious predictions only please
So I was right with Spirit, but wrong with Crossmen. Got it. I said that (at least Spirit) hasn’t been to Finals in over a decade.
This gotta be the craziest prediction yet
But switch SCV with troop and crown with BD and it’s a legitimate prediction lol
Spirit 9th stays as a middle finger
Idk if I should be offended by the people saying crest is getting 15th
I like this guy
- Boston Crusaders
- Bluecoats
- Blue Devils
- Crown/Phantom
- Phantom/Crown
- Mandarins/SCV
- SCV/Mandarins
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Cavaliers
- Colts
- Pacific Crest/Scouts/Spirit
this is INSANE
SCV in 12th is diabolical
I know
has that even happened
i know that they've never been out of finals
except for that one time
so odds are probably not
you mean 2023 when they were inactive?
yes
I wouldn’t be offended by anything here just skip basics block and play your trumpet all day and you’ll make finals
what if i dont play trumpet
No finals
man
only✍️corps✍️with✍️trumpets✍️make✍️finals✍️
- Boston/BD
- Boston/BD
- Bluecoats
- Crown
- SCV
- Phantom
- Mandarins
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Colts
- Cavs
- Scouts
Might change this up a bit later
Think about it - has a corps ever made finals WITHOUT a trumpet?
Oops wrong reply
This
bugle
Yes, 2003
Last time there was a soprano bugle
Not real
- Carolina Crown
- Bluecoats
- Boston Crusaders
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- Blue Devils
- Mandarins
- Phantom Regiment
- Blue Stars
- Cavies
- Colts
- Madison Scouts
- Pacific Crest
you never know...
I’m just happy you have faith in PC
i believe!
maybe impulse also does a sudden tour to indy and we take every award adn 1st
i can dream
As a impulse alumni myself impulse should really go to Indy sometime soon
Yeah that would be awesome i wanna go to lucas oil as a performer at some point and if it was with impulse thatd be crazy
Does impulse have hats this year
Asking because hats are kinda the staple of impulse
I don't know personally
I really hope that I didn’t march the last year impulse has hats
I remember people getting pissed that we didn’t have baseball caps last year and instead had baker boy hats
The new york times hats were pretty fire though
I have mine hanging on my wall
I regret not doing it last year the show looked like a lot of fun but I got really busy
The impulse logo on the back made pictures look so good
It was a fun show, my only complaint being the props, especially because I was the person hanging off the big prop in the beginning of the show.
They were apparently supposed to be skyscraper props but the art either didn’t come in or it broke (idk what happened really)
Like…LET ME HANG OFF A SKYSCRAPER PLEASE
Props still were pretty nice the front ensemble writing was my favorite part I think
It was good until the Taylor swift part
That was lowkey kinda not it
New york new york at the end too though 🔥 🔥
That was pretty fire
I liked spider woman
And in the heights
In the heights was also awesome if i wasnt so busy with show music i would be spending more time learning the music from that year
Impulse had a goated colorguard last year, one of the gals went on to march bd and im marching with one of the guys at PC this year
to BD is pretty crazy i cant wait to see all the world class shows this year
Ive only seen like 4 open classes i think
I wish I can watch impulse live
at the Gahr show
Gahr was so fun, I met so many of my current drum corps friends there and now a lot of us moved up to world class
^^ Tours gonna be a lot of fun I can't wait
Im gonna go sleep best of luck to PC!
Goodnight, and same to you!
We are wearing baseball caps for our standstill community performance today but for our show uniform we do not have hats or headgear
It’s good tho because our uniforms are HEAT
alright here’s my crackshot based off of nothing but vibes:
- blue devils
- boston crusaders
- bluecoats
- carolina crown
- phantom regiment
- scv
- mandarins
- cavaliers
- troopers
- blue stars
- colts
- scouts
i haven’t seen anything of anyone’s shows so just pure guessing
Yes and no, it’s breaking a tradition since the first year impulse has been around
Tweaked predictions
- Boston Crusaders
- Bluecoats
- Blue Devils
- Crown/Phantom
- Phantom/Crown
- Mandarins
- SCV
- Troopers
- Cavaliers/Blue Stars
- Blue Stars/Cavies
- Colts
- Pacific Crest/Scouts/Spirit
spirit mentioned
cavaliers in 10th 😔
I think cavaliers will do much better
I have seen some Blue Star show leaks and I’m unsure about the show concept competitively but they sound great as always
Big glazer of that mellophone line
only if blue stars are better, i honestly could see cavies beating troopers
but i went with my gut lol
- Bluecoats
- Blue Devils
- Boston Crusaders
- Carolina Crown
- Phantom Regiment
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- Mandarins
- Cavaliers
- Colts
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Pacific Crest
i think this is what i want to happen, i took cavs and troopers staffing overhauls into account so i hope they do better. i don’t know if scouts maintain the momentum they had last year but i also don’t know what the rest of the fringe corps are looking like so far
I want to see a cavs comeback
- Crusaders
- Coats
- Phantom/Crown/Devs
- Phantom/Crown/Devs
- Phantom/Crown/Devs
- Cavies/ Mandies / SCV
- Cavies/ Mandies / SCV
- Cavies/ Mandies / SCV
- Stars
- Scouts/ Troopers
- Scouts/Troopers
- Crest/Splanta/Colts/Knights(we hope 🙏)
Blue stars could also be in contention of getting top 6-8
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same
i think we'll see them top 8 with their massive overhaul of staff (especially with Jay Bocook and Rick Subel)
I’m not really expecting something dramatic like Boston 16 -> Boston 17
But 7th or 8th place isn’t out of the picture
tweaked based off of what i've "heard"
- Boston - holy conquest shots
- Bloo
- Crown - holy crap their horns are back
- PR - You’re not ready. I’m not ready. DCI isn’t ready. The turf isn’t ready. They’re not coming for 1st. They’re coming for the concept of rankings. They’re going to play so well that time folds in half and we all wake up in 2008 again.
- Blue Devils - apparently they're not as strong or good as i thought they'd be
- SCV
- Mandies
- Stars
- Cavies
- Troopers
- Scouts
- Splanta
:(((
ik it's a very subjective list loll
- Boston
- BD
- Bloo
- Phantom
5.Crown - SCV
- Mandies
- Stars
- Troopers/Cavs
- Troopers/Cavs
- BK
- Scouts
fuck
i forgot to put the corps
wow that BD and crown ranking is certainly subjective
almost entirely subjective list based on fuck all for everything below top 4
based on nothing ofc
yeah you would never have seen or heard crown OR bd this year for sure
not until i see both in august
but something tells me crown's show is better than bd's
it’s an odd year crown is locked in on odd years
What about 2014 and 2012
did i say they weren’t locked in those years
i just said they’re locked in on odd years
Wait I’m lost
- Blue Devils/Boston
- see above
- Phanny Phantom
- Crown
- Bloo
- SCV
- Mandies
- Star
- Cavies
- Troopers
- Scouts
- PC
I’m gna get flamed very much
Boston Crusaders
Bluecoats
Carolina Crown
Blue Devils
Phantom Regiment
Santa Clara Vanguard
Cavaliers
Mandarins
Blue Stars
Troopers
Colts
Madison Scouts
damn everyone is betting a boston win rn
I want to see a tie
I dont. ties are disappointing from an audience pov
Yes
Ties are very fun
I never view it as an asterisk win I just view it as double the fun
Yeah just take a look at the video of the 2000 (or whatever year) Cadets and Cavies tied) world championship retreat—when they announced co-champions the crowd started booing lol
Well the crowd wasnt really booing but it does seem like an anticlimactic response
https://youtu.be/iK05GsKE4jM?si=tAnQTGiRFLT3icoi
2000 Drum Corps International World Championship Finals
College Park, MD - Byrd Stadium
1 The Cavaliers 97.650
1 The Cadets 97.650
3 Blue Devils 96.900
4 Santa Clara Vanguard 94.700
5 Boston Crusaders 92.350
6 Blue Knights 92.000
7 Phantom Regiment 90.650
8 Glassmen 90.350
9 Crossmen 88.550
10 Madison Scouts 85.500
11 Carolina Crown 85.150
12 B...
Wait it may have been 1999 now that i think abt it
scv 1999 😋
1999 was the controversial one I thought
scv shoulda won alone (i have not seen the other show)
I have never seen a show from 1999
go watch scv 1999
enlightening experience
I like bd
also has what is personally my favorite lot video ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0ipJZ1eJTk
The 1999 Blue Devils Hornline blowin' faces off....(Not very good audio)
Was their final show to use g bugles I believe
Colts out BK in is wild
I think he’s tryna say they are locked in during the most random years
- BAC
- Blue Devils
- Bluecoats
- SCV
- Crown
- PR
- Stars
- Cavies
- Mandarins
- Colts
- Troopers
- PC
i like this list
PR in 6 tho
i got pr in 6 too
phantom dropping 2 places is crazy
They’re preseason predictions. 4-6 could go in any direction. Maybe one of them pops into the top three. Maybe a corps in the bottom six makes a move. It’s all guess work until we start seeing competitions. We do know the 4-6 corps last year were separated by a little over one point, so they were close. I expect the same this year.
This is a realistic prediction
yall aint ready for this
1 crown
2 bac
3 bd
4 bloo
5 pr
6 mandi
7 scv
8 stars
9 colts
10 troopers
11 cav
12 pc
insane take
what are you smoking and can i get some
Cavaliers staying in 11th is crazy
nah trust super realistic placements
Yeah I thought so going based off of past years and what I've heard about this year
I think once yall see Bostons show your opinion will change
Boston is gonna dominate this season
That’s my take
how’s spirit been?
Spirit is on fire
They’re top 12 and I really think they’re gonna turn some heads this season
I like Spirit of Atlanta
Have you done your preview show yet
Yea they did the concert I. The park and it was amazing
I'm so sad to not be here
I would like to go and watch the shows but I'm too far so I can't 😔
Have you seen any thing from Madison?
Spirit’s is so good
I wasn’t expecting the colors tbh
One video thanks to you
- Boston Crusaders
- Blue Devils
- Bluecoats
- Carolina Crown
- Phantom Regiment
- Sacramento Mandarins
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- Troopers
- Cavaliers
- Blue Stars
- Colts
- Spirit of Atlanta/Pacific Crest/Madison Scouts
Best Percussion: Boston Crusaders
Best Brass: Carolina Crown
Best General Effect: Boston Crusaders
Best Visual Performance: Blue Devils
Best Color Guard: Boston Crusaders
mind you i haven't seen any of Boston's show but I just have an itch that it is finally their year. I can also see Boston being ahead all year and then The Blue Devils swooping in and breaking their heart come finals night
i dont theyll get best GE i think coats will
i think if coats win ge they get second at the minimum
i mean that goes for anyone but you get what i mean
everyone keeps saying bloo will have a batshit crazy show so yeah i can totally see them winning ge. but typically winning ge means you get first place so I have boston winning it for that reason
GE: 
Visual: 
Guard: 
Brass: 
Perc: 
- BAC
- Bluecoats
- Phantom Regiment
- Carolina Crown
- Blue Devils
- SCV
- Mandarins
- Blue Stars
- Cavaliers
- Troopers
- Colts
- Madison Scouts / Spirit of Atlanta
This seems realistic
Swap Cavs and stars and I agree
i’ve seen the section that crown also used
i understand that but i feel like bloo will win GE by a super small margin leaving the overwin to boston
- bd
- bac
- pr
- coats
- crown
- scv
- 🍊
- the cavaliers
- stars
- colts
- troop
- you guessed it
devs take ge and vis
boston takes brass and guard
fuck it pr takes drums
I’d didn’t guess it
"you guessed it" is hilarious
dude it’s completely unpredictable
the least predictable spot in the activity right now
spirit, scouts, crossmen, bk, or crest could very well do it
Quick heads-up, this thread will be closing <t:1751058000:R> along with the other early prediction threads - be sure to lock your predictions in before then!
Wait the whole thread ?
yeah
these threads are basically early prediction threads before the season starts
once the tour starts, there will be prediction threads for every show that will be locked once the show starts
#event-discussion will reopen for discussions during the show
ok
- bd
- bac
- pr
- bloo
- scv
- crown
- mandies
- colts
- cavies
- troopers
- stars
- pc
I’m pretty biased btw
I can also see bac winning easily. in my mind it’ll be super close
No Access will reopen 💔
Little too soon for this but will predictions reopen briefly after the season ends like last year?
maybe
but if we do it'll be the actual finals thread
or maybe some super early 2026 thread based on the final scores that will be open for a few days
Alr thanks
I’d like to put in my last prediction based on what I’ve seen
- Boston
- Coats
- Phantom
- Crown
- Devils/Vanguard
- Devils/Vanguard
- Mandarins
- Cavs
- Troopers
- Stars
- Colts
- Spirit
No way devs are so low
Bds show bored me
And I’m not even a devils hater
The only full show I haven’t seen from my top 6 is vanguard and coats
And they are all better imo
Even the snipet of vanguards show they posted on their story was amazing
If BD gets less than top 3 this year
That’s it fr them
They gna be the next phantom or cavies
no idea
i dont know anything abt them
i dont rly know if ive ever said anything to em 😭 they left dcd for the majority of the time i been active here
i cant react to this for some reason
like it wont let me
i can react to other messages
i wanna thistbh too :((
he blocked you then
if you cant react it means your blocked
yeah he blocked me too, no idea why 😭
i say some stupid shit but not rly that terribly
lmfao ive barely interacted with him before
same
like i dont think ive had a convo with him before 😭
anyways this is off topic for this channel
BD is not placing below 2nd
3rd at worst
fr???
that would have been insane
lmfao
what convo
sorry i come into chat just to see nish talking to himself
that’s way funnier
i was hallucinating on shrooms
as you should
exactly
I think top 3 gna be Boston bd and Bloo fighting it out
Not way phantom breaks in
Or crown
Maybe crown could but it wld be reliant on their brass
in my mind the top 6 is just bd v. bac, crown v. blue, and scv v. phantom
Yeap
Sound bout right
BD got the right idea but def needs that bd pixie dust
Boston is
Boston
Bluecoats sweep again
Captions:
Brass - Bloo
Guard - Boston
Drums - Boston
Vis - BD
GE - Bloo
Guard BD
im gonna edit predictions
- boston crusaders
- blue devils
- bluecoats
- phantom regiment
- santa clara vanguard
- carolina crown
- mandarins
- cavaliers
- blue stars
- colts
- madison scouts
- troopers
don angelica - BAC
brazale - BD
ott - BAC
sanford - SCV
zingali - BAC
top 5
- Boston/BD
- Boston/BD
- Bloo
- Phantom
- Crown
- Bac
- Bd
- Bloo
- Crown
- SCV
- Pr
- Mandies
- Stars
- Cavs
- Troop
- Colts
- Spirit
After watching the video of PR’s dress rehearsal, I’m comfortable with my sixth place prediction, understanding that places 4-6 are likely to be closely contested. I think the top three from 2024 remain the top three this season, just placement changes within that group.
That does not diminish the 4-6 groups. They are all very good.
Collin
Overall Corps
1 Bluecoats
2 Blue Devils
3 Boston Crusaders
4 Phantom Regiment
5 Carolina Crown
6 Santa Clara Vangaurd
7 Mandarins
8 Cavaliers
9 Blue Stars
10 Troopers
11 Colts
12 Pacific Crest
13 Madison Scouts
14 Spirit of Atlanta
15 Crossmen
16 Blue Knights
17 The Academy
18 Music City
19 Spartans
20 Seattle Cascades
21 Genesis
Percussion
1 Boston Crusaders
2 Santa Clara Vanguard
3 Bluecoats
4 Carolina Crown
5 Blue Devils (I know this is a hot take)
6 Phantom Regiment
7 Cavaliers
8 Troopers
9 Mandarins
10 Colts
11 Blue Stars
12 Spirit of Atlanta
13 Pacific Crest
14 Blue Knights
15 The Academy
16 Madison Scouts
17 Crossmen
18 Music City
19 Spartans
20 Genesis
21 Seattle Cascades
so much BD hate
Not rlly. When a corps moves down in placements it’s natural for some to see it as a fall off, and some see as just an off year
Only time can tell but it’s not “hate”
i guess that's true
Revised caption predictions:
Brass: Carolina Crown
Visual: Blue Devils
General Effect: Blue Devils
Guard: Boston Crusaders
Percussion: Boston Crusaders
No not really.
The percussion caption is just so hard to predict. I hade to make a decision and I decided that all groups from last year are still gonna be better and I think Crown perc is also gonna overtake.
I still have BD in 2nd for overall corps.
I don't hate them at all.
From what I've seen, this may be my favorite BD show since 2017.
Love those spirit drums
I am a big Spirit fan
yeah that's true
- Blue Devils/Boston
- see above
- Crown
- Phanny boi
- Bloo
- SCV
- Mandies
- Star
- Cavies
- Troopers
11. Scouts
12. PC
GE- BD/BAC
Vis- See above
Brass- CMFC
Perc- SCV (Boston glazers hate me)
Guard- BD no question
final edits
As much as I disagree, Bloo in 5 is a valid take imo
I have them fifth as well
the curse strikes again
I mean I have them winning but its very possible
dude no way
Gonna lock in my finals predictions:
- BAC (Guard+Percussion)
- BD (Visual+GE)
- Phantom
- Crown (Brass)
- Bloo
- SCV
- Mandarins
- Cavaliers
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Colts
- Pacific Crest
if they win there will be riots in LOS
Line of Scrimmage?
respectfully, bac not getting Sanford
whut
Who is then? SCV?
Either that or
What does LOS mean?
lucas oil stadium
Oh lol. Makes more sense
BD percussion is the hardest for me to predict
they very on off
Yeah. I feel like the book isn't written for consistency and it's that BAC level of High Risk High Reward but BAC is just more consistent. BAC's pit has also held them back imo for past years and the pit this year seems so much better. That's why I have BAC winning the Sanford
haven't won percussion since 2015 tho
this is exciting
they seemed to have fine tuned those ludwig drums
BD pit is fire I will say
I agree, which is why I didn't pick SCV
Bloo in 5th? What’s the deal with Bloo?
lol
The beating BD curse
i have sooooooo many problems with bloo
It only applies to a corps first time winning
I don't agree with it. I am just guessing their rationale
i’ll have to watch bloo’s reveal tmrw but i don’t think they’ll fall off that hard
one major one is that they are announcing so late
if scv can hang onto third with whatever that 2019 show was i have no doubt bloo can do the same
nahhhhh scv was fluke
Vox Eversio? Right?
yeap
yup
What’s wrong with SCV 2019
crown got edged out by ]
Haven’t watched it so I’m asking not implying nothing was wrong with it
0.37
for me at the time it wasn’t a show i was particularly gripped by and i wasn’t totally sure what they were going for
I loved Beneath the Surface
keep in mind i was also seventeen at the time and i’m sure if i revisited it now i’d like it more 😭
i think scv percussion pulled them up
2019 is like my least favorite year
shld have beaten scv
I was 12 for the 2019 season so I only remember specifics
I would agree
WOW
I submitted them but I forgor
SCV got 5th in music 2 for 2019
Everything’s gonna be shared between bd and Boston except potentially the Sanford
Top 2 prob
Leaning towards Boston for brass and guard, bd for vis and ge
IIRC SCV 2019 was a visual disaster
maybe the medal will also be shared
Boston could easily win vis though, and bd got a chance at guard and maybeee the ott
grey pajamas
ew ties
guard: bd or boston i’ve heard awesome things abt bd but i also feel bac is going to be firing on all cylinders in all elements so i expect tight competition all season long
perc: scv is the safe option bc the rennicks just know what’s going on but i do think bac doing the west coast tour and going toe to toe with them might help them out
brass: bac (i’ve heard great things, tho won’t be surprised if crown or bd make a move)
visual: bd, don’t think i need to explain this one
ge: whoever wins most likely, probs bac or bd
hey its always possible
yeah
If Bloo wins it all like my predictions...
GE - Bloo
Visual - Bloo
Guard - BAC
Brass - BAC
Percussion - BAC
if bd does win guard i don’t see them running away with it like they more or less did in 2023
happened last year for 24th between Jersey Surf and Battalion
rip jurf
dawg
BD not even gna touch the ott
I honestly think bac has a good chance to take vis from bd. They had some amazing design last year
And their marching looked good
these are all vibes based i haven’t seen a single show, i just feel like bd will naturally fire back from their performance last year commandingly
really hope they return next year--they always have the most fun shows
real
tho i have heard that bac has continued fine tuning their brand of horns? so that might help em out. either way i’ve heard amazing things abt their brass so far
love how they're more about vibes and good feelings than putting on something insane with crazy props and uniforms only to get 5th
Barely seen bloo but bd and bac are too good for me to not predict them in top 2
825 horns.
They sound so good from what I've heard
that’s good, i remember them being kinda bad when they first came out in 23
the low brass is new and improved
as of this year
Low brass hit like a truck in that Mahler clip
you're remembering correctly about 2023
crown will 99.65% get the ott this year
the other 15(?)% will come from phantom and bac
99.65+.15 =99.8
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I got bac and bd in top 2 for brass
math not mathing
dont overlook crown
Bd and bac sound too good
it’s so funny that now the corps that has had historically incredible brass is now more or less the underdog 😭
I mean 3rd or 4th in brass isn’t an underdog
i do love a good underdog story (as a pacers fan)
actually I shouldn’t take any of the leaks into consideration
the og versions of shows are often very clearly unfinished
i just feel like people have been brushing crown off for the past few years and i can sort of see why
last year was just a design faliure
Even slight changes in corps quality can change placements at this level. Crown, bac, bd, they all sound amazing as always
the show designs just haven’t been very good most seasons post-2017
their show design as of late hasn’t really played to the brass’s strengths, but i trust that they’ve made the right adjustments
2017, 2019, and 2023 were good though
east coast sound and west coast drumming was... interesting
and i’ve heard really good things about their show so far
Crown 2023 was their last gods hornline year but that was recent so I have hope for the next few years
Their hornline is young this year from what I’ve heard
He got competition
Whoever the staff is at bd bac bloo etc
Kevin labouef produced a definetly ott worthy line last year
Talent is spreading even from crown itself
- Boston
- Coats
- BD
- Phantom
- Crown
- Mandarins
- Vanguard
- Stars
- Cavs
- Troopers
- Colts
- Crossmen
Best Brass: Boston
Best Visual: BD
Best Colorguard: Boston
Best Percussion: Vanguard
Best Overall Effect: Coats
no pc?
I have PC in 15
whos 13 and 14
Scouts and Spirit
scouts and bk?
oh fuck I forgot about BK
no bk??
PC is 16
but like
didnt expect PC to be so low
12 thru 16 is a toss up
mmmmm
Xmen, Spirit, Scouts, BK, and PC are all so good
as it always is
I just feel Crossmen might have the upper edge for 12th
13 thru 16 is a bloodbath and I havent seen enough from those corps to really know
i havent seen any of the bottom few corps
lol
I don’t think Crown is otting this year
I don’t think you can win brass against boston this year
They are so insanely well balanced
My take as well
Everyone's take is valid, others are just more right than others (joking)
“Some infinities are larger than others” and all that
troopers top 5 in finals saying it here first
I like that
also think madison makes finals again 👀
On second thought I can’t wait for this thread to lock
Crossmen’s uniforms are heat
very conversational opinion right here but i think bd is out of top 3
just thwre show isn’t like them it’s more of a marching band show and not a bd show yk?
just a marching theory
I don’t know what that means but hell yeah
I agree
I was bored by their show
i’m glad i wasn’t the only one
The performers are amazing it’s just the show design tbh
If BD is out of the top 3 I will personally sponsor your tuition to go march somewhere next season.
waitttt i love that bet
I’ll take that bet
Nah I like this take
if colts get above 10th i will audition for blue devils
If Phantom gets a medal I’ll audition fr drum corps
blue devils disrespect is wild and given that they have more than twice as many rings as they do non-medalist finishes, anyone betting them below fourth would be facing +100000 odds on something like draftkings
they have a down year and get 😱 third and now they're gonna place 5th for the first time in 30 years (which is their third worst ever finish at dci finals)
I’ll take those odds
what
Fans
?????
what?
Lmfao
I’m not even a blue devils hater
What
Imma head out
im not a bd hater
But this show just doesn’t hit for me
yeah blue devils shows are famously not crowd pleasers but they still win
BD is too established with their staff and member talent
It’s gonna take a lot more than an “off” year to lose their top status
in no world does the design team that has won something like 12 championships slip up so bad they produce a sub 4th show
in no world do the blue devils attract anything less than medalist talent
Only time will tell
brother time has told
And San an is gonna be our first real indicator of how the season will play out
BD just does everything right in terms of long term
man it literally does not matter how they sound or look in june
they sounded like dookie in their 22 community preview and everyone was like "did covid ruin the blue devils???" and then they went undefeated and won high brass
wild
Corps fluctuate around and Boston and bloo happened to at their peak, and bd a little low
It doesn’t matter if they got 2nd or 3rd or 4th
They aren’t going to fall off long term
Well keep in mind it was the first show. I imagine there's shit tons of stuff that just wasn't filled in yet so temporary things were put in that aren't as impactful but still have a visual contribution. Color guards do that all the time, especially at the higher levels. Scott Chandler is like their big visual guy right? He's a guard person
I think the anty will get upped by a ton as long as they develop their ideas. Assuming these ideas are so different from typical bd design language (I've seen the opener)
also i dont know about anyone else but it was hard for me to even tell what was happening on the field from a 360p video shot from the fourth row up in the stands
BAC All the way
their shows also evolve the most out of all of the wc corps
so what you saw in the leak is in no way representative of what you’ll see in indy
- Boston Crusaders
- Carolina Crown
- Blue Devils
- Bluecoats
- Phantom Regiment
- Santa Clara Vanguard
- Blue Stars
- Mandarins
- Colts
- Madison Scouts
- Troopers
- The Cavaliers
Trust, 110% accurate
Cavies 12th 😱
- BAC
- BD
- Bloo
- Crown
- Phantom
- SCV
- Mandarins
- Cavies
- Blue Stars
- Troopers
- Colts
- Spirit of Atlanta
Brass: Crown
Visual: BAC
Guard: BAC
Perc: Cavaliers
GE: BD
Cavs will not be that low 😭
Madison Scouts is gonna beat cavs tho. I’ve heard their first 3 movements
Spirit jumping 4 spots, knocking out Scouts, and beating PC is a hot take
12-15 or 16 or whatever is such a bloodbath that anything can happen
It’s late June, a lot of takes are a bit hot right now 🤣 anything is possible especially getting down past 10th
And spirit sounds good this year compared to last year in my opinion
Although I’m hoping Cascades can jump a bit. That’s where I’m auditioning next year lol
My current home town corps 🙂
That’s my birth place corps
I haven’t seen them yet, I didn’t know they had done a show lol. I might have to retract my statement
I saw a leak from a few weeks ago
Nah keep the take im here for it
I could see it
Ig my “home” corps would be cavs lol😭
I was between PC, Crossmen, Scouts and Spirit tbh
Haven’t seen PC or scouts or bk or any of the other corps so I’m more in the dark than you
First show is in just a few days
Are you marching?
I am
YOO my friends are marching!!!
I was born in Seattle so maybe I should pay more attention to them
What instrument are you marching?
Im in front
lol I almost auditioned for drumset and I wish I did
Are you planning on scades next year too?
I'm just tryin to get through this summer lol
I'll think about where I'm gonna go next year once Indy is over
lol fair enough
mandarins jump to fifth by finals
Cavies in 12th 😭
I’ll close the prediction form in like 10 mins for anyone who hasn’t submitted it yet
But I’ll leave this thread open for a few more hours until the preview show starts
Medals - PR BAC BC
4/5 - Crown/BD
6/7 - SCV / Scouts
8/9/10 - Troopers / Mandarins / BK
11/12 - Colts / Academy
GE Bluecoats
Guard - Crusaders
Percussion - Phantom
Brass - Phantom
scouts 7?!?!?! mandarins 9?!?!? academy 12?!?!?!?
Their name holds true
Boutta get roasted over a fucking flame for this one chat
Wym
sorry🙏 this is genuinely the craziest prediction ive ever seen😅
This
More on crack that I am
Tbf, I consumed mostly pre covid DCI
I also almost auditioned for drum set at Cascades
Still gonna be flamed asl for this one tho chat
I will say, to others, my captions make more sense than my placements
I don't think that's too far 😭😭😭
maybe perc too but i dont know much about perc
All the love to phantom but yeah they aren’t getting it
Their brass is good
But it’s overshadowed by other corps
oh i just realized you have phantom at 1 too
Oh yeah
I like PR percussion but BAC, SCV, BC, BD and Crown all have a much higher chance at winning percussion
I love what Matt Penland and Tyler Sammons are doing over there but Idk about Sanford winning. They'll average over 19 for finals week I think though
Finna pull a 2008
Also that's js between the 3
I'm not saying any of them are getting first specifically
I'm js saying medals are between them
oh
a lot of the “bd 4th” or “fall off” predictions are actually pushing current members to really lock in. moreso than ‘23 and ‘24 tbh
so being a bd hater might just make them do well lol
i don't think BD is dropping out of the top 3
They definitely won't
I’d be shocked
literally hasn't happened in 20 years
I'm assuming you're not but are you marching bd this year or did you age out?
I age out in ‘27 but I decided not to march so I could do an internship
I left a bit before move ins
y'all young as hell
i don't understand this argument
just because something doesn't happen very often doesn't mean it's impossible
it does make it unlikely though
i never said it was impossible
not anymore now that they don’t contract anyone under 18 tho
just highly unlikely as BD has the proven track record of consistency
no you specifically lol
i was in elementary school when you were born
that’s wild to think about lol
I wasn’t alive when you were born
i was 1
I’m a 2007 kid
06
05
I’m marching with someone who was born in 2010
i plead the fifth
Kind of crazy
Prophet did u age out in 19?
21
Your 8 years older than me
nah
06 gang
I think there’s a 2008 kid in bd right now? I’d have to ask him but he’s insane
On back line as the youngest dude in the corps
serious predictions only
oh mb
wild
imagine if that happened tho that would be crazy
A 2008 kid?? That’s insane
bd out of finals is not a very far off prediction if you’re predicting 2026 or 2027
lol
There was a 17-18 year old on the quad line last year from Ayala
bro what 💀
are you predicting dci will cease to exist by then?
well that is Ayala they’re cracked
why would they want to do that tho
that changed because of global politics though
it might happen but as of right now, probably not
ryan?
that’s crazy holy moly
and then he made 24 bd
Math says hes 17 meaning ageout in 2029
Crown 1
When I was 15 I was playing video games instead of practicing
same
i didnt take my trumpet home to practice a single time until my rookie year when i was 18
I believe BD attracts too much talent, which, combined with their championship design staff, makes it hard to imagine falling out of the top three.
if bd touches 4th thats it
yeah that’s the hard thing i feel like it’s could be possible but won’t happen
BD could drop out of top 3, but i dont think they will this year
i just dont see who would take 3rd over them
If it ever happens it will take a longgg time, and the stars have to align where other corps are at their peaks at the same time and bd is in an off year
Last year I personally think the only reason they got 3rd because Boston and bloo were having their best years in their entire history
That’s just what it takes to beat a corps like bd. And sustaining that will be very difficult compared to how well BD is long term
bd needs a staff change for them to fall out of the running for more than a season or 2
not just a single staff change
they wld need to change the whole staff fr bd to go down
I mean I’m not to educated on old dci but Cavs and cadets both used to be dynasty’s and they both eventually fell out of top 3 but once again I’m not very educated on older dci so idk what caused them to fall out of top 3
If anyone could enlighten me that would be great
I just think it’s weird to think that the blue devils are so invincible that they can’t fall out of top 3
did something happen that i missed
for cavies, I think a big part of it is that they lost their designer after 2011
plus the show design they were famous for wouldn't have translated super well to modern dci imo
yeah
But still my point is I’m sure at some point ppl thought both Cavs and cadets were untouchable and now one of them is folded and Cavs are bottom 6
its like madison scouts i think
How so?
they were top 6 until 2000's
Scouts 95-97 my beloved 💔
those mid/late 90s scouts shows were majestic
i'm sure the early 90s ones are too but i haven't watched them
95 is my fav scouts show of all time
Scouts are so good
two of their shows (2012 and 2024) have some of my favorite DCI closers

