so ive been using eclipse for all of my java projects. i assume its not the smartest idea to move IDEs this early on my java learning path but i do want to know why everyone uses intellij. what makes it so good? and what is a better IDE to eclipse
#should i buy intellij or stick with eclipse
primal steeple
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undone shuttle
Why would you need to buy intellij when it already has a (free) community edition? It's a great idea to switch to Intellij no matter at what point of you coding journey you are.
primal steeple
ok but why is intellij so good?
undone shuttle
If only there was one answer but you will know once you start using it yourself. I have not used ecclipse so I can't point out the differences between them. But intellij is built specially for Java with lots of built-in support.
Also, I have a suggestion for you if you start using intellij at any point. Get the "Key Prompter X" plugin for intellij which will pop up the keyboard shortcuts for the actions you take, a nice way to get familiar with it's shortcuts.
primal steeple
thx
inland belfry
ok but why is intellij so good?
Incredible amount of features, excellent support for basically everything(especially if you have ultimate), much better gradle support than eclipse and cleaner ui
primal steeple
Incredible amount of features, excellent support for basically everything(especi...
that does sound nice il try it
analog plank
so ive been using eclipse for all of my java projects. i assume its not the smar...
and what is a better IDE to eclipse
ultimately this is a personal decision that u have to decide for urself.
if it helps, 70% of java devs use intellij, 10% eclipse (5% netbeans, 15% other)
as Adi said, the community edition is totally free and can be used for everything u want (including commercial)
and is feature-wise already more than eclipse offers
jetbrains (the people who make intellij) kinda dominates the IDE market
(at this point i might mention that our server is sponsored by jetbrains though)
@fresh kite this is definitely the wrong place to suggest sth like that
also, im not sure if u havent read the part that we are sponsored by jetbrains
fresh kite
okay okay
warm iron
Most people don't even need or use the features Ultimate edition provides
orchid juniper
To be completely clear.
IntelliJ Community is 100% free for personal, education and commercial use.
IntelliJ Community is not limited in any way. There are no project types or project size limits.
IntelliJ Ultimate simply adds some productivity tools, that are most of value to larger commercial projects. These projects could still just use IntelliJ Community - they buy Ultimate only when the added value it offers make sense for their teams.
Can you use Eclipse? Absolutely. Could you use it for all of the same projects that you would use IntelliJ. Yes. However the vast majority of professional developers have now preferred IntelliJ for a large number of years (and that was true, albeit with a smaller majority, even before there was a free version).
Source: me. I used Eclipse for almost a decade but have used IntelliJ for longer.
(and before that, mostly JBuilder)
warm iron
also if you are a student by chance, Jetbrains offers free licenses
orchid juniper
Student licenses of Ultimate, yes, but do note that I think it might then come with a caveat, that it is not used for commercial purposes. Otherwise all the same.
fresh kite
Student licenses are only for collage/univercity?
warm iron
they give it to students studying in schools/colleges/unis
fresh kite
okay
wicked saddle
@primal steeple you can use vs code
analog plank
<@1404331130672644196> you can use vs code
we dont recommend vsc for java bc its java integration really lacks a lot
every week we have a bunch of people here with issues that are vsc exclusive, its really sad
for small stuff it can be fine but for anything beyond a single file it can be a real pain
theres a reason its used by less than 5% of java devs worldwide
but welp
primal steeple
<@1404331130672644196> you can use vs code
i mean i have it but it doesnt feel as good as eclipse witch is why i moved to that
i use that when im making web projects(vsc)
wicked saddle
I've only worked in web-dev. So, fault on my side.😶🌫️
primal steeple
to be fair i thats what vs is for(i think)
inland belfry
Vsc is def best for web dev, but subpar for almost any language
ashen current
VSCode isn't really meant for any language in particular, it's a code editor, not an IDE. You can make it work for most languages through extensions, but it is famously quite tedious and unstable when it comes to Java, which is why it's recommended to use IntelliJ since it saves you a lot of headache, especially as a beginner.