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today is my birthday
Happy birthday
thanks!
Unexpected explosions
What vision
Idk if ts is art too but, stone tools
Lucy looks great but for the guy... the face needs some edits but I think u cant rn bc it will messed-up other things
Yeeeaaah I might be too lazy to do that šš I know š„
But its a non-existent reflection ok?? šš
I wasnt kinda in the right mood drawing that, I just wanted to idk, finish it
Why black ones are separated from white ones?
I know all things are great but the face of him needs more work all good
Cus they are from different stones š

psycho mantis
this is amazing
More later, but first is this waist of lead
That scene was so depressing
finished :D
My roblox avatar
Cyberpunk Edgerunners fans vs happiness š
Rowlet the goat šÆ
My fav pokemon type shi
improvements
Oop forgot to mention that for the 4th one i used a template but i donāt know who the artist is if that is ok!
Nice are u a full time artist?
Or just for fun-
For fun ;))
anyone knows about why can't i able to post pics here ?
Maybe you aren't level 5
Yay.. it's done UwU
Loos great ngl
Oh my god balatro š°
Hi, small artist here.
I made a jjk trend by animating Raiden shogun and La Signora. I'd love to see your thoughts on it ( āį“ā)ā§
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU6CrFEjUnd/?igsh=dnpxczl5NGM1ZHo5
Raiden Shogun beating La Signora
Took me a while to finish but it was worth every part of it. This game made me realize how funny it actually is. When the new season of JJK came out and noticed a new trend so I remembered THAT part when Raiden Slashing her so I was like "Wait... IT FITS?! GIVE ME MY TABLET I NEED TO ANIMATE IMMEDIATELY" so yeah...
@wise sphinx i live ur pfp
wallpaper i made for my sister
š„
build a oc
Me?
Like a picrew?
Im trying to learn how to draw, but idk what app to use and also how to get good products with no pencil. Any suggestions?
If you want to try a free program, you can try Krita and see if you like it
The best thing you can do is just start trying things, less overthinking and more just screwing around
There's also some good mobile apps for drawing that are free, but I'm not familiar with those
Art trade I just finished =]
purple looks good
your art mogs me whenever i see it
I have no time
Art class final
Yes
heads were too big so shrunk them a bit
aye aye captain 
the final showdown (in my perspective)
every single thing and reference in that image is dead
except for the robots
Kept you waiting
huh
That is a very nice and unique mask
GG @gentle sorrel, you just advanced to level 5 !
Yes
ok
When you get high enough level yes I forget the min for this channel
Doodles
thank you!! its called a voxel :>
this art is so evangelical
Goat
OMG WAKFU MENTION I LOVE WAKFU
big fan
I JUST MADE SOME BULLSHITT
They need to start paying me
It's... an experience
Dont you worry more is to come to bless ur ears
I made 3 bullshittt songs too if you want to see
yeah sure
hell yeah

@pearl dune
can we be friends?
"Not here to be your friend" kek
The main four when they were lil jits
who is this man
His name is Dante, from a visual novel called Today, Iām Harvesting You!

š
i see i see

love em
NOW people will start saying you're a furry
Indeed
Haven't felt like drawing anything of substance in awhile
i like the bottom right face
who are you
you are who
Can I give you some advice?
@fossil turret i found someone else
Fuhh ahh gae
Lets go!
I was handed peak
Sure
I made a chocolate marshmallow ravioli desert
If u want, u can send it for the #art-contest
U can ofc, just dm one of the art mode the one u want
Real proud of this one
A neckline that low (anatomically) would be showing Pennies
As a woman thatās not particularly true at all especially if having a bigger bust most Pennieās face down at the ground also itās a corset from the era before they added bust cups meaning the Pennieās even of small chested women sat right below the neck line of the corset also it was a fashion at the time to have low cut cups even on their undergarments but I do see your point but I did do that on purpose
I plan on giving her a full body design and youāll see it is proportional
Cool
The main thing that made me think that at first was that it looks like her spine is straight
Sheās leaning forward some
Im afraid im going to have to agree with salmon that some pepperonis would be showing
unless her boobs are somehow very long and volumous at the top? which im afraid would not happen
š thatās the top of the bust have yall never seen a corset or a womanās body before
hi hello i am a woman and yes i have seen a corset, however! sometimes you are allowed to be wrong
Hi Iām also a woman and not all of our bodies are the same!
Crazy how that works
im aware! i have seen many! naked! (life drawing)
I'm not gonna argue with you, but as someone with, what I like to think, a good amount of anatomical knowledge of the female body - the drawing simply isnt correct
I have worn a low cut corset and it looks nearly the same her full body is not in frame and I explained the choice I made
And simply isnāt correct is your opinion
Whatever u say lady
Annoying if youāre going to give advice or opinion do it in a productive way
Well you don't seem to be accepting advice anyway because you are clearly correct and no one else is because we are all stupid and have no idea waht a woman's body looks like
Did I say that
No
You responded to my explanation of the low bust choice and stated I was just plain wrong
I'm getting that vibe from you since you are just straight up saying I am wrong lmao like hello two people have commented on it
Doesn't matter what 'choice' you made because it's not right anyway
Itās a choice art isnāt right or wrong like huh? If it was advice on how to make it look better if thatās the style I wanted Iād be like cool
Yeh you're right I will
I wasnāt doing a live portrait study for a class right and wrong is an opinion and youāre just being rude atp
I will go draw some anatomically correct tatas instead
Salmon at least asked if their advice was wanted
yappayappayappa
Yes draw some have fun and remember art isnāt about right or wrong itās about ART and maybe donāt be a dickā
Have a lovely day

Just remember guys, art can be wrong! And I am not being a dick because I have a vagina
Vulva miss educated in female anotomy



Geist
Drew myself as a spider-man for fun
Want some advice?
Yes plzš
On the leg that has the bent knee it kind looks like there are three joints or a broken bone near the top where the knee bends
Also the area between her legs is kinda high up, usually there is a little more space there
Still a great drawing
Hmm Alr, thxš
Im still practicing my poses and anatomy so thank you for the tips
Also the arm going forwards is kinda skinny at the shoulder and it would look nicer if it got bigger closer to the camera
Glad I could help!
That is a very hard angle to draw a leg from
Why is that angle so hard to draw
Oh wait
The legs not long enough
Concert on Monday 
idk what to do with this thing i made
peak
My fingers are hurt
This is amazing
No matter what i can't seem to stop drawing furries in this dumb generic way
I wish I had an art style
Keep adding sounds lol
Sort of think about what would sound good and add it
Experiment
That's a nice sample you got
š
yeah i was tryna make something kinda similar to how miss the rage sounds
Bruh.mp4
Ohh I see. We'll there's a tutorial online on how to make that sample with vital (it's a free synthesizer)
Du coup, le week-end Ƨa te va (pas forcƩment celui-ci direct) ?
Art passed off my room
this is quite nice
@delicate cove
Shirt reminds me of stevens universe love that
most recent and very random stuff yup
Whatās your opinion on door to phantomile
Also klonoa pfp spotted
And very nice art

peak
Ty
Iām tryna take elements from multiple characters for that oc
I might change things on the fly
Ye week end prochain stu veux
This is gonna be the peakest thing ever
cute

woah des gens qui parlent franƧai 
wi wi baguette
bjr
super smashys
Trying out a new lineart style
superb
thanks, king
I'm sorry for the inconvenience, but what level do you have to be to upload photos? I just want to show what I draw too
Iāve seen level 5 members posting art here
(Memeber role)
thanksthanks, and... as a sub level? it's just that I'm new (seriously, I'm sorry for the inconvenience, I just don't fully understand English)
GG @wide dirge, you just advanced to level 2 !
donāt worry, just engage in some small talks and you should level up by the end of the day
thanks š
bruhv2. mp4
looks good!!
aww cute
everyone has one dork
you can try different styles
artstyle comes on its own
Did a birthday special for my college friend
GG @tawny nova, you just advanced to level 11 !
Just rate my art
? /10
idk
We needed content so we released the Lacari files.
Music by TeffyD.
@Lacari #animation #memes #lacari
Jesus Christ loves you guys and I recommend reading John chapter 14 verse 27 in the Bible
this is a meme server twin
not everyon ehere is catholic
Note: He sent this twice somewhere else here
ew 15 time
just a bot
I swear the entire bible to choose from and all people can come up with is the same verse weāve all seen a thousand times
I personally like Jonah 4:7.
hello
GG @amber pine, you just advanced to level 1 !
Maybe a goat?
3/10
Why?
could have more effort put into it, the emotions feel unclear
You mean it's not great?
it just feels a little lazy thats all, make the faces a bit bigger
Too lazy
Sorry
lol
you dont need to apologize, just keep learning
What about this?
better
Ok
make the outline maybe a dark green
GEOMETRY DASH 

fire in
Rock on the ground

Cheeseburger

SO CUTE
TYYYYYYY
ooooooo i like!!
Thank youu
Book of life?
Yessir
I remember watching that movie when I was younger
And also nice art
Yes love that movie I watch it every year and thank you
Paracetamol
Goodnight chat sweet dreams
right here twin
house wife. mp4
can i post images that i took ingame and have since edited here?

the one with the bike is ghostrunner 2 and the other one is ghostrunner
Wowza
Did a simple serval ā¤ļø
Bleh
Guys why I can't send anything
ur lvl is not high enough
finally beginning rendering
im lazy
Hell yeah brother
will forever be rendering eyes like this
this the first time i actually rendered and experimented in months
im goin sleep
beautiful
Fandom fandoms

That pose is insane holy 
BERSERK š„š„š„
Metal gear appreciation āļø āļø
so many furries
Ikr
A pencil drawing of Rainworld i did a while back
This is super impressive, is there any way I'd be able to see some of your other work?
how do I level up
You need to chat
ooh okei
What the actual flip
THAT'S DONE WITH WITH PEN AND CRAYONS?!
Insanely well done my dude
Sword
Epic
ty
just chat
Jane Doe ZZZ double D, feet IN frame
erase those sketch circles š

hello
@oblique bolt has leveled up! (0 ā 1)
Raaa
Idk
Even more furries
Nothing but FURRIEZ
because they're COOL
Anyways I might draw something of worth tomorrow
Draw minos prime
No
kitties
the latest
Not the black bar
dw boy i can hook you up type
š¼
oh wait legit?
thanks cuh
i was gonna send original at first then irealized i'd proably get killed
Yeah yeah
Even tho it's just art
And it's only a sketch still
So it shouldn't count
Unless for some reason you were to draw nipples
wrong file
I'll repost when I color it
exactly that
Im not the best artist
2 years ago they made a big deal of this bro
Its hair that I struggle with
dude i CANNOT draw hait
HAIR*
every time i've had to i straight cheated
i js throw random lines on a dark colored shape and hope it works š
WIP
Have been practicing rendering on procreate since I got it from my next project
(Left Is from today, right is from 2 weeks ago)
Try first thinking of hair as different shapes combined together
And most importantly that they always overlap
welcome to the thumb
GG @remote gale, you just advanced to level 14 !
@delicate cove bot
@delicate cove same message zepperdepep reported here
@dark pasture has leveled up! (0 ā 1)
?warnings 1459206827765141742
There are no warnings
ok
@dark pasture stop with the advertising
gonna be so real i thought the right one was more recent, i personally think the shading gives more structure to the face. You had more variety of hard and soft shadows/ highlights. Left is still good just too soft imo. Keep it up
Aya wip
You

The lighting has Def improved. I know most people use references and quite skillfully map out the lighting. I think the shadows on the older one does give it a bit more character (because the hard shadows give a little more aggression and masculine appearance) but hey quite well done
Who am I to say anything. I can't shade at all š¤£
John Lennon said WHAT???
Our historical heroes aren't often as morally guided as we think they are.
Music by Scareev.
#animation #johnlennon #history
cuTE
i've gotten good at drawing heads
one day i will learn poses but i feel like ive stepped down from the level i was at just a bit ago
Speedpaint included
Sketchy concepts today
Jesus Christ loves you guys and I recommend reading John chapter 14 verse 27 in the Bible
Jesus Christ loves you guys and I recommend reading John chapter 14 verse 27 in the Bible
when i change the shadows from linear burn to normal he comes metallic
š
Pretty sick
was going through some of my old art when i found this gem
i know ive posted it here before and i forgot when, but looking back at some of my old art, i feel like i have improved a lot and it feels awesome
Looks sick
thx a lot
Genuinely so beautiful man
I sharted in class
Line work
Aku
Orang misterius
why can't I see the option to share pic??
I unsharted
done with ts for now
sitll need to do a turnaround and stuff like taht or whatever
might change things tho
i wann petpetpet em
toothless<3
yummy
Fresh alerts rolling in, payments confirmed, momentum loud. Every notification hits different when preparation meets bold execution this year. Energy unmatched, results speaking volumes.
I remember this
I didn't draw much tonight
I was watching the summer hikaru died
Pretty good show
I wish I had a boyfriend

paws
Too cute

Get crazy at drawing furries and pull the fuzz
Hi
Same. But like... A woman. 
kitties
awww
IDK HOW
youtube fr, thats how i learned
I've tried yt and idk, nothings working
Marc brunet and lines sensei are rlly good
do you have a good understanding of basic shapes and 3d form?
Study animal and human skulls too
I got good by staring at dog skulls and figuring them out
can you show me how you make your guidelines?
Which ones
KITTUH
furry heads, dont add any detail, just do the guidelines
From what im seeing here, i feel your issues come from not understanding head anatomy
Yeah, pretty much
What will be ur next username 
zartraz feet freak

ok, study human neck structures, human head proportions, and canine skulls. That'll be a good start
do NOT try to learn every muscle and every bone. just learn the basic shapes
theres almost no situation where you need to know every detail
Got any good yt videos for it ?
@real totem do you love my new name?
im unsure of which videos are good on human heads, i used a paid course for that. However, you can try people like Sycra, Marc Burnet, Lines Senei, and Drawlikeasir
for animal heads, i used a picture from google
Gotcha
my most important tip for you, dont jump from topic to topic. I see you're doing headshots and body studies. Choose one topic and stick with it for about a week at minimum.
You got it boss
Jeanji
How can i send photos
U need 2 be LV 5
Ye that kinda annoying
Ty dude you helped alot 
Np
I hope it doesnt take alot
Ah du coup je viens d'y penser, Ć quelle heure pour ce week-end ?
i dont french
ā¹ļø
dw
Is that a bad thing? lol

Pretty cool
Is almost done!
Just finished watching the summer hikaru died, pretty epic
I was gonna make another 4 panel comic but I forgot where I was going with it, plus I'm creatively bankrupt
Toujours!
Tu as quoi comme plage horaire ?
En vrai jsuis dispo le toute la journƩe. Peut etre plus l'aprem
Mais du coup pour blender, tu vas nous montrer quoi par exemple ?
Pensais vraiment a la base dla base apres jadapte si faut autre choses
Ouais, car mon pote me disait qu'il serait plus intƩressƩ par genre decimate et texture atlasing
En vrai jme renseigne mais pas sur que je sache faire
Ok ok
my pet cat of 10 years passed away recently so i drew this as a memorial :,)

This reminds when my dog died when I was in a hospital
@hot mist
This guy advert twice in this server (here and in meme4youtube)
good luck

That one random Friday night be like
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GRAAAA IM SO FUKING LAZY
So dank boii š š«± š«±
sorry for your loss :( our pet is in a better place now where theyāre no longer suffering ā¤ļøāš©¹ā¤ļøāš©¹
Thatās ok it was like 7 or 8 years
When it happened
Raised the bust line since it was an issue š
goofy
I'm an artist from green mountain and this is my art
Also, my furry art got its first like on twit, so I doodled the first fursona I ever drew

whats your twitter?
snek
I forgot her blush
bruh. mp4
smash.zip



I did it again
(I hate Miku)
glad you decided to take the feedback. Looks much better now
Didnāt ask you
wowwww ok so u were really rude to me saying I was wrong about my criticism and then you take it, ignore my compliment, and be rude again?
you are a total ass LMAO
Acting like that backhanded compliment was anything but backhanded š but Iām the one who is rude
I wont even point out what else is wrong because there is simply so much to correct itād take a while
Youāre just sad
Iāve been doing digital for only a year so Iām happy with my work be rude to someone else lil girl
Not little but erm keep it up I guess⦠you have a lot to learnā¦
You have a lot to learn about being a decent person I wish you luck and much therapy for your negative outlook on life
Im actually a really awesome person, i am just not nice to the people that dont deserve it. I have many friends that love me and I love them so really I dont care what you say
And you keep talking to me?
Thats cus its so good and youre not a verified artist so you cant talk in that channel :(
I havenāt applied dove get over yourself š does it make you feel good to put others down itās so odd
I didnt apply either but whatever haha
You literally started this whole thing idk why u r making me out to be a bad person. This all started becase i agreed with someone elses criticism
In the passive rude way bffr
you said they could give u crit, they did, i agreed, and u said my crit wasnt accepted like i didnt say the exact same thing
no u r just bad at reading tones
not everyone is going to be jolly! Hello! The boobs r too long!!! Hope tjis is ok!!! Ur still epic awesome!!
I donāt enjoy your tone or your presence have a lovely life
Nor do I enjoy yours!!! Hope this sooo helps!!

this is so peak
rude
Not rude it was backhanded comment
Which is rude
To whom
you just cant read the room ig
Why do yall fight over art
Art is expressing yourself
Basically an opinion itself
And opinions differ
You canāt change that
Since when is art uniform itās art that was my whole point you canāt insult someoneās art by blatantly calling it wrong and then expect ppl to enjoy your feedback
And her whole I could list everything wrong with it but it would take a while is annoying and rude but yes I canāt read the room š bc I posted art I enjoyed making and she decided she yet again needed to make backhanded comments

It was sunny who started it
no, looking at it sunny just stated their concern, could of just said that's how I like to draw corsets, but instead questioned sunny on their experience, I'm stating my concern because it felt like Mair latched out to slightly negative feedback, I will agree that both are in the wrong for having the argument in here or for having it for so long, but thats my consensis im done past this point
This is the third time theyāve fought
The first time sunny started it
Itās like poking a open wound
Stated concern š that was not advice it was blatant in calling my work just wrong after I had already explained the choice
than take it somwhere else
so am i
i like how you canāt even respond to her directly
@tender heart lowkey love your art i like how you drew the castle
reminds me lot of game of throne
thanks!
Yall how to post images, itās gray for me. But also does anyone know how to make sure graphite doesnāt smudge in sketchbook
GG @river jewel, you just advanced to level 1 !
Lvl 5
This entire argument started because your ego is bigger than your ability to draw. You were given valid critique from people who know a lot more than you, and instead of saying thanks and disregarding it, you chose to argue. Regarding the drawing you made, Sunny was absolutely right.
Yall thinking art needs to be uniform or all the same style and be blatantly rude about it is disappointing from the art community maybe learn to keep unwanted opinions to yourself
I also accepted and explained my choice to the person who offered advise where as she proclaimed you canāt make choices in art art can only be right or wrong
I never said art needs to be uniform or a specific style. What I DID say, is you decided to argue instead of accepting critique, because you think you know more than people who've been doing it significantly longer than you. It doesn't matter if its a "style" choice, you were still wrong. And a bit of advice, nobody is going to respect you or bother to help if you continue to act as immature as you have been
Instead of typing a Novel find better uses or your time than inserting yourself into someone elseās quarrel
Public channel <3
@shrewd light
This one is pretty good but it tackles anthro heads specifically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFRncPCS24U&list=PLw_tY5Efx79T2Nm2Pvt7mBZ9g-CDAu5dX&index=10
This is the lumis method. I personally dont use it but when I was learning I did. Also draw like sir is a pretty good free resource
Alrighty
I know this face...
I was going to practice the last two days but I got burnt out
tuff
Practicing just gets into my head
terraria house, maybe not the channel for it and if not my b
I focused figure drawing so now im quite good at that but I neglected heads so they're pretty mid

GG @shrewd light, you just advanced to level 2 !
i fw this heavy
ty ty
fweddy
anyway i drew super saiyan 3 freddy fazbear
cause feddy fabear
aw man no gif privilages again
its the pink hedgehog girl :D
cool
Tyty
it reminds me of how sonic was drawn in the sonic cd opening
he looks like a donut
he is
Im not good at practicing at all
I ruined my favorite brush and I'm losing my motivation to draw rn
Im only motivated when i have someone to draw for but I don't really have anyone that wants a drawing
My posts got like 50 views though so that's cool
WHATS YOUR TWITTER PLS
not even in dms?
Not rn

Drew these two pieces. "The Sheep in Wolf's Clothing" and "What You See, I Relive". The second one is based on a game called centaura so that is my creative take on the original artwork.
yes u are
Really cool
I tried covering a cc song. Am i cooking and should I keep going?
im scared
good
I can't draw
I can't draw in my room it's so uncomfortable
And I have family occupying my drawing chair in the living room

messaging has cooldowns for when you get exp, i wonder how much more i need to send to get lvl 5
It ain't that hard
yeah i'll most likely get it soon if i keep yapping somewhere
Nice work on the art
GG @icy saddle, you just advanced to level 1 !
Thought those were chairs
eh

I'm terrible at leaves
And shading
Not the worst flower I've drawn though
So I'll take it
what about my house? lmao
calamity mod btw
The very first thoughts spouted out by Mehmood while watching the teaser for the new backrooms movie by Kane Pixels.
Clips taken from Backrooms - Official Teaser HD - A24.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKGhxMi50y8
Music by TeffyD.
@kanepixels
#animation #backroomsmovie #kanepixels
left bottom looks great
Very art
Wonderful
I remember my first furry art
Now here I am
Not a furry, just a furry artist
its hella fun to draw furries with all the fluff and im not a firry either

im as normie as can be
TRUE
I like drawing them it's so fun
Its pretty much all I draw anymore
OH THE EARS AND HAIR IS SO FUN
I LOVE BIG EARS
YESSSS
hes only of 3 layers
my other art is basically all ocs till now or a bunch of wallpapers
Look at his big ol ears
AAAAAA SO CUTE
my other art
im.a fairly new artist
so ya thats my first furry
its sooooo fun
to draw
did u know i got inspired by someone in this server to draw furry art
š
Same lol
Pretty awesome
thanks
i dont really know
how to shafe
š
u have any shading tips?
also learnt for the first time i could change opacity in layers š isnt there any all in one ibispaintx tutorial video on youtube
shade
Nah lol
im.glad i started drawing digitally i love to draw

Just use a different layer with overlay and use a darker or lighter color. That's all I can think of
ohhh thanks and how do u blend in ibispaintx
smudge?
Yeah I'm pretty sure
No problems
lol
Whoa art talk right above yes yes
Colors and blend modes
Feels like reading a podcast transcript
My Brain has no cognitive functions
Car
Vroom beep beep
I love my gay son
very noice
very pretty
very edible
uhh
i mean
credible
Ofc its a femboy
arent you one? 
very nice
smash
wat
if anyone is curious who they are, they are not OC's theyre skins from minecraft from players in a server im in 

GenesisX and his famous giant jaw
And Finley
And some practice or whatever
I need to draw an actual something but idk what

I might be open to suggestions

Sometimes I feel like an old man attaching emojis to every message
more arts from minecraft skins
Ayy these are pretty sick ngl
is this lore based?? scaryy
How long have you been drawing for?
2 years
Wow
This is a lot in two years imo
someone asked that in dms and i got ghosted š
They forgot to answer twin you can always find a positive explanation ā¤ļø
but negative x negative is a positive
@dark turtle has leveled up! (7 ā 8)
Doomer copium
GG @tacit osprey, you just advanced to level 5 !
I added some background. Cuz why not.
nope
the server has not much lore its a non pvp server
just people building and stuff
theres pvp though but its toggleable
Hell yeah
Oh damn I actually forgot to send this
DAYUM!
Cat, there's no name yet.
beautiful
Smash
Smash
Smash
Chat you might as well go by Bi of highland
Hmm I eat bad shee first and leave the best things for the last
Understand chronology boiii

the first coloring was with blue light filter on at 100 š
What's this
images i took in SCP: 5k, i think they look pretty nice
They do
not enough games have a good camera feature
:3
not my best but i still think it looks pretty
what software
did u model all this?

Is this Gmod or something
SCP: 5k
?
Idk how to reference
Bro you only draw furrys and freaky poses 
That's not true
Look at this

@minor orchid has leveled up! (11 ā 12)
hell yeah
taking screenshots of a game..
yeah?
you got a problem?
š
its photography but in video games
@deft nest
End it
Maybe gourds and a gun
@hot mist
handled
love you bbg
?
Sorry I wasn't awake at 4 am and couldn't bring justice in time
āPointlessā using Pointillism art
its okay, i forgive you
Thank you
G/91 <3
Redrawn
Is it going to make me furry?
i do have a whole photoshoot of the leopard 2a4 and some german jets





