#2025 Championship Song Battles 13
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Welcome to the song battle! Discuss the two songs here. The winner will be revealed <t:1764604800:R>
THEY CALL IT
JUMPSUI
Hi
ALL THE WAY
oh no
COVER ME
hi nico
JUMPSUI ALL THE WAY
phew oldies won
god, this is fucking evil
see this is a very hard choice
JUMPSUIT
jusui
center sweep
idec who wins this one
SWEEPSUIT
CENTER MASS
Ngl jumpsuit kinda sucks
obviously i'm team center mass, but still
JUMPSUIT
JUMPSUIT
COVER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
CENTER MASS
poot im a whore message
well thats like
center mass ftw
CENTER MASS LALALALALAAA
Aaaah this is hard 😭
A LITTLE SOFTER THAN I USED TO BE
i have never seen so many kewl folk in one spot....
I think I'll go jumpsuit
No this one is hard
Seriously, center mass is one of their best songs ever
THEY CALL IT CENTER MASS
what the hell is thsi 😭
JUMLDJKY JUKCJYT CUVD NR
ok back to formula 1
Jumpsuit is peak
I’m gonna have to go with centre mass I fear
Jumpsuit no hesitation
jumpsuit easily
Used to mouth off often with artillery 💔
Although I vividly remember when jumpsuit came out and altered my life
This is the easiest one by far how tf is there talks of Centre Mass winning
THAT PART THEY AIM FOR
Fr
fuck it i'm voting papercut
JUMPSUIT JUMPSUIT COVER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This is meannnnn
if you freaking say so...
most hype opener ever vs most overglazed song on breach
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Fr😭
Once again, Im choosing over my two favorite children
jumpsuit is just so iconic its so sick in every single way this has gotta sweep
TRUE!!
oh it's you
AND THATS DENIAL NUMBER FOUR
Guys I can’t pick 😔
center mass is glazed bro it's not that good
this is cruel
MY TATTOOS ONLY HURT WHEN MEANING FADES
Jumpsuit is iconic but I prefer Center Mass
literally
I love center mass, but jumpsuit bro
I think jumpsuit became overplayed rapidly which is why a lot of people may lean center mass but jumpsuit is so freaking good… they both are

now it is cough drops and soft spots in a middle seat
center mass
Jumpsuit just suffered the Stressed Out fate
Going with Jumpsuit, I don't need any time to think 😎
(I love Center Mass as well, but yeah, Jumpsuit is special to me)
These are both good songs
a little bit of.. Tyler... Tyler all night long... no, no
jumpsuit has better production imo
the most overglazed song on breach is by FAR One Way
center peak
SHRINK IT DOWN TO NOTHING AND FORGETTING WHAT THE PAINS FOR
JUMPSUIT JUMPSUIT COVER MEEEE
guys guys guys, whatever we do here, it should win against oldies
they both have phenomenal production and kinda explode near the end, but like, center mass is also just a phenomenal song lyrically while jumpsuit has like 4 lines of text total
jumpsuit is just so much better considering the times
you are a professional ragebaiter and it will get to me every single time
recency bias gonna have a strong hold over this .........
I bring this screenshot back to backup my argument 
COVERMEØH
Yes
GET OUT OF MY FACE
center mass doesnt beat oldies unfortunately
I PULL ON MY SHIRTSLEEVES TO COVER BOTH MY HANDS
LMAOO
i love jumpsuit but center mass outdoes it so hard
grrr it was close last time
drag path
YES !! :3
receny bias 🥀
th you mean unfortunately
REAL REAL
Yes. Full stop
center mass here sawry
NEXT SEMESTER SWEEP
i'm just saying, center mass already beat oldies, sooooo...
its ok i took a break from ragebaiting last song battle so i could recharge my ragebait
oldies is the best song left
"i miss you so so much" 💔 my heart
jumpsuit is good but it's never been one of my favs
ur right i meant fortunately
Also y'all I've missed a couple days is The Line still in the competition ?
it literally did already
jumpsuit is so much better in every way
yea
i wish we could ban the phrase "recency bias" from this server bc its yalls favorite excuse
centr mass is probably gonna win due to new album hype
BRING MY ARMS CLOSER TO MY BODY, GET AS SMALL AS I CAN
because people hate pushing on through and they wanna be depressed asf 🥀
r.i.p. redecorate
i mean it's kinda true sometimes
THEY CALL IT CENTER MASS, THAT PART THEY AIM FOR
I love redecorate
it was the best on the list
"girl I really don't think you should take that" ❤️🩹
i think people are unwilling to believe some may think their music has gotten better over time
then it's kinda true people have way too much nostalgia for their old shit (like idk hds)
for the record jumpsuit lost to hoty with a larger margin than that of center mass
it is kinda true tho
thats true too
I'll never be able to get over the bass from jumpsuit ts a core memory for me atp
unfortunately the majority of this server says sai sucks
SHRINK IT DOWN TO NOTHING AND FORGETTING WHAT THE PAINS FOR
I think if I ever had to choose between The Line and Redecorate I would die on the spot
Gotta go Jumpsuit till we’ve seen Center Mass live tbh
okay thank god you're not one of those people with double standards
which it doesn't (ily sai)
Real
I PULL ON MY SHIRTSLEEVE
the only time recency bias applied imo was when drag path rose up in popularity and sweeped the second place spot because of the tiktok edits that had just blown up in popularity, that's the only example of recency bias imo
Well then they suck (I'm kidding you guys don't)
ikk
shouldve been oldies V cottonwood but this server is afraid of a matchup like that
CENTER MASSSS
I PULL ON MY SHIRTSLEEVE TO COVER HALF MY FACE
tbh i would be too
jumpsweep jumpsweep cover me
cottonwood is the most underrated song on breach
but why are we saying it won second place because of edits and not because the song is genuinely that good?? can it not be that the edits are because the song is good??? how is that recency bias
FR it's my moms favorite
center ass that part I aim for 😍✌️
cottonwood is frankly a 10/10 (one of the few i give to artists)
as long as oldies station prevails im satisfied
BRING MY ARMS CLOSER TO MY BODY GET AS SMALL AS THEY SAY
it must push on through
like i think top has a total of only 5 10/10's
freaky one pilots
THEY CALL IT CENTER MASS THEY PART THEY AIM FOR…
Im sorry jumpsuit
LMFSOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHIT UPPPPPPPPP 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
aorry giys i love center mass too much
imma start using shit up from now on
As much as I love jumpsuit center mass hits me personally, i love it
because it literally lost to City walls in the previous song battle, then beat it and tally in the second place one, the only thing that had changed was that the tiktok edits happened so it was fresh on everyone's minds again
like the only 10/10s are Oldies, Redecorate, Cottonwood, Drag Path and Tally tbh
What if instead of twenty one pilots it was twenty 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙠𝙮 pilots and instead of escaping dema they got 𝙛𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙠𝙮 with the bishops
or maybe the chat here was too convincing
11/10's are Center Mass
Why did I type that I'm leaving
3 10/10 on one album is crazy but fair
everyone was saying do the right thing and let drag path win and shi
i dont consider drag path as breach ❤️
FOUND OUT WHAT IN WORRRTHH I RUN TO YOUU III HOPE YOU UNDERSTAAANND THIS RUN-ON SENTENCEEE.. MY TATTOOS ONLY HURT WHEN MEANING FADES.. I THINK MY SKIN GOT WOORSE WITH GOOD INTENNTIONNNSSS
who tf disliked my shit
So that is why nico chokes clancy in the tower
I DONT WANNA SAY WHAT HAPPENED, I JUST WANT TO LET IT GO
anything above a 10/10 ruins the point of a 10/10 imo
that would be me 
HELP (yeah, it is)
He was born a choker
umm not really
center mass is definitely a 9/10
Do NOT do my boy CM dirty again or I will find you.
but i genuinely think drag path is a special case here because you have to remember it wasnt easily available to listen to before that. i genuinely saw people the first round not voting drag path just bc they hadnt heard it. i see your point but i also think the second time around more people had heard it for the first time or were able to hear it more, especially because of the edits, and appreciate it more because of that
10/10 is literally the ranking for "perfect" twin you legitimately cant do better than perfect
NOTHING WAS THR SAME RIGHT AFTER I WENT TO THE FUNERAL II MISS YOU SO SO MUCH TAKE WHAT YOU WANT TAKE WHAT YOU WANT FROM MEEEE TOOK YOU FOR GRANNNTTEDDDD
the center mass glaze here is insane
like it definitely just ruins the point of a 10/10
missing a lot from that list tbh. taxi cab, ots, migrane, gfh, message man, literally half of trench, next semester, vignette, city walls, drum show, and center mass are all 10/10s as well
tw: opinion
nah just people with good Breach taste
My teacher played taxi cab during class last week
🥔
most overhyped song in their discography atp
These are FACTS
no genuinely calling center mass 11/10 (basically saying it's the best TOP song) is glaze
id be jumped if i said it's actually hoty
i love the lyrics on Center Mass and I definitely connect to it a lot more, but Jumpsuit might be one of the pilot's best structured songs
nah, that's hoty, and it's not even close
Door's here 🚪
i dont even think jumpsuit is the best song on trench so it doesnt stand much of a chance. if bandito was here it would be another story
I just realized what your pfp is 😅😅🔥
i like hoty but i can understand that take
NOOOO but i genuinely love hoty
i love hoty
it's peak 🤞
oh no
i don't know which one to pick
it's like picking between favorite children
YOU'RE LYING
i love hoty but people act like it's peak twenty one pilots and it isnt
we're calling ourselves walls now apparently
it's good, but it's like a 9/10, not even a top 15 song by them imo 😭
Me deadass
HE DID HIS FAVORITE ALBUM IS SELF TITLED
What a damn tough decision..
I have that picture screenshot 😍
yeah i agree like i think its an important iconic song but that is not anywhere near peak of their music
jumpsuit is so beautiful live but center mass it’s an absolute vibe 😭😭
I love Jumpsuit but I gotta pick Center Mass 
this
whichever part you aim for (center mass)
center mass hits so good for me in such a personal and emotional way because 1. i have anxiety and you best believe i am pulling my sleeves up and looking around at people like they hate me 2. my uncle passed away and after we had his "celebration of life party" nothing is the same. It's gonna be the first christmas without him soon and im so like conflicted i dont know how to feel abt it💔 I just feel the lyrics too hard
rowan!
SHUT UPPPPPP
owen!!!!
i'd having to really think about what my top 15 is
why is everyone acting like i just murdered their family when i say center mass isn't "11/10"
IT'S SO AWESOME HE'S A HUGE TWENTY ONE PILOTS FAN HIS FAVORITE SONG IS ADDICT WITH A PEN
really pulled a "one step closer" 😭
Sorry for your loss. ❤️
because you did
i just know that cottonwood v oldies would be tough
😭😭
bass guitar ……
OH MY GOF YOU LUCKYYYY
no song is an 11/10
This is hard but I think I’ll go Center Mass.
cottonwood tbh
center mass lyrically. jumpsuit instrumentally.
because it's true, i just saw you come into my house and murder my family 2 minutes ago
exactly
so the line "took you for granted" hit me so hard because i didnt realize how much he actually meant to us until he died
IT'S SO AWESOME WE'LL LITERALLY TALK ABOUT TWENTY ONE PILOTS DURING CLASS
my entire bloodline just perished bro
i actually agree with this take
shh
So so true
THIS is why i’m struggling rn
even then it's close, center mass has some of the best production on breach
for sure
Center Mass is better and an insane evolution from Jumpsuit in literally every aspect. the writing is much more powerful, the production is more layered/hits harder, it has really good rap verses, Tyler’s screams have improved, the melody is more interesting, etc. This shouldn’t be close at all, but ik nostalgia is a powerful drug
and then in Tally he's just happy and acknowledging he's a bishop lol
this is where you rely on delivery!
Sorry Jumpsuit baby I love you.
That's actually insane 😭😭
what?
huh??
jumpsuit is still good there is no nostalgia blindness
im talking about my dead uncle🧍♀️
Sorry Tally?? Happy??
tally or cottonwood are easily best on breach
oh shit
did we listen to the same song gng
ALSO WHAT💔
thought you meant Tyler 😭 I'm so sorry
intentions is easily the best song on breach
Tally isn’t happy. 😭
Center Mass purely for the “girl, i really don’t think you should take that” intro
Tally is crazy energetic but I wouldn’t necessarily call it happy lol
MOYYYY DEATHHHH
i like the delivery
this is certainly a take
Literally
It's not my favorite but its up there
also this, I was at that show so it means a lot 😂
im literally replying to a message talking abt the reasons why center mass is so personal to me and i talked abt my uncles death🧍♀️ lmao💔
Lmaoooooooo
jumpsuit visually ❤️🩹
One Way doesn’t get much love, but it’s one of my favorites off Breach
honestly any song on breach is a valid favorite as long as it isnt one way or the contract
oops
wouldn't say easily but i could see it
guys garbage is the best on breach, trust
She's so underrated 💔
Hot take but there's not a single twenty one pilots song I dislike
my 5K minutes on the contract is staring at you so hard right now
a little softer than i used to be
hey contract is good
trees rab
trees rab
LMAO
She got me like am I dreamin 💀
I think One Way would have been a top 3 song on SAI but unfortunately it’s stuck in an album of literal masterpieces, so ‘extremely good’ (which it is) just doesn’t quite cut it for me
the autotune hurts ngl
fucking good, the contract does NOT belong on breach
same. i definitely like some less than others but i dont dislike any of them
I honestly forget abt this
fuck
twin?
it's actually great but it doesnt fit breach at all
Zero taste
Yeah same for me
cant vote
not wrong tbh
I LOVE YOU TREES RAB THEY DONT UNDERSTAND YOU LIKE I DO
yes vro u don’t believe the hype 
have you heard rab trees
also i think its interesting for how this same reason abt my uncle's death i can't listen to cottonwood at all. I just cant. That first piano note makes me turn it off immediately. It's like cottonwood just sets off a trigger in me and i just cant listen to it. When i listen to breach in full i skip cottonwood because i just cant listen to it
one way catching strays for no reason
relistened to RAB trees its not bad-
theres songs i skip but id say only a small handful of songs i'd consider as ones that i actually dislike cause mostly its just songs i wont go out of my way for
the contract defined the sound of breach bruh
How does the contract not belong in Breach…
it's H O R R I B L E
Like songs like Screen and Robot Voices and certainly not my favorites and I rarely listen to them but that doesn't mean I dislike them
i feel like the contract represents breach better than almost any song (besides maybe city walls or center mass)
‘zero taste’ and it’s 100% dark chocolate paired with straight vinegar in a wine glass
It fits that album so well. It wouldn’t fit anywhere else.
that is SOOOOO fucking wrong lmfao
the contract does not sound like any other song in breach 😭
relistening rn
The contract actually has a perfect amount of auto tune lol it's something so UGH I LOVE HER DAWG
It’s even my ringtone, I love the bass riff and the style he’s singing
screen isn’t all that bad but the “i can’t see past my own nose” verse goes so hard
i love the contract but i genuinely think it stands out weird as fuck on breach
why are we hating on the contract???
Y’all are crazy.
name two songs on breach that sound similar
LMAOOO
"that's a train" pack it up
edm album when
jumpsuit better win
HYPERSKRAMZ ALBUM WHEN
a train from the sky
i just hate the autotune and that part is repeated like 10 times throughout the song 😭
The Contract represents the album's sound the least
the song that represents breach the most by far is Tally but yall are freaking forgetting it
hear me out their purple era is edm
please omg
Booooo 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
a lot of the album is a distinct poppy sound and then the contract is just a hodgepodge of grating noise and autotune that serves as complete whiplash
yall fw the edm album but not hyperskramz
they dont have to sound similar but they all fit a sound and then the contract is just there. banging, for sure, but
💔
Yeah, it just never really grew on me like the others did. I'm sure if one of you locked me in a room and made me listen to it for 3 hours I'd be different
manifesting a Porter Robinson collab right now that would be my dream come true
LOOOOOL
and thats weird for me because cottonwood is a good song and i've never had to skip a song because it makes me so emotional to the point where hearing the FIRST NOTE of the song makes me tense up and i have to skip it. Not even 2012 goner does this to me💔 Cottonwood makes me emotional in the sense that it makes me sick to my stomach and it makes me feel so weird and i just cannot listen to it
vessel was close
i especially think putting the contract after garbage was a crazy setup why did they do that
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porter robinson OPENER would change game yo
screen and house of gold ruined its chances of that
so true
LETS GOOOO
i wouldn't say it's edm at ALL
i guess that makes sense 👍
Zero mf taste here
I'm not dying until I hear taxi cab live (I know it's not gonna happen SHUT UP)
it’s very electronic
they should represent what the album is about and the sound they're going for, so yes there should be hints of other elements on the album
i feel like downstairs should've been between the two of them
me with acatad ❤️🩹
I feel Tyler could do a badass edm album
theres touches of electronic but not EDM💔
bro I’m not saying they’re bad, I’m saying they’re not the same sound as the rest of the album lol
electronic =/= edm
My teacher played that one the same say he played taxi cab (thats so real tho I would die on the spot I love that one)
I’m aware
i think this makes more sense
IDK WHAT THUS MEANS BUT CLEAR!
i do hope they get more experimental like the sound they did with the contract though
I don’t think every song on an album has to have the ‘same sound’. It would get boring without variety.
An album with the same sound throughout its songs would be BORINGGGG
clear lowkey could be edm if it was slightly remixed that's why

i want them to do a new album that's heavily rap focused, like levitate, vignette, and center mass
OH honestly yes i agree
reallll
What I love about Breach is that it feels like a rejuvenated sound from Blurryface which got so easily outdated
RIGHT
My mom likes Kitchen Sink I think I've won
truce, intentions, cottonwood
eh, vessel keeps a consistent sound and it's a top 3 album by them
they dont have to have the same sound but there should be a sense of consistency
Jumpsuit SWEEP
but breach largely DOES fit a sound. the songs dont have to sound the same to fit a sound guys 😭
before you start your day
i need a shoegaze album from these mfs and i’ll be happy
i wouldnt mind this
For real
genuinely i think an entirely rap-centered album would be bad
I love the variety on Breach. I love all the aspects from past albums being used.
bad like bad good or good bad
vessel and blurryface are already mainly rap centered albums
I do think there needs to be real cohesion of sound for an album to be great, but I think that’s more down to consistent choices in pacing, mixing, instruments, etc. Not a copy/paste ‘sound blueprint’ that every song follows. That’s what tøp has always done well
bad like bad
I'm gonna go eat so bye guys this has been fun
i think they could execute it well, i think if they follow the same sound as they didnt with the contract for this rap centered album i think they could pull it off
vessel kinda, but not really blurryface
omg
would it be good? idk man i dont make music i just listen to it and judge it based on my own experiences
it's not structured very well though i'd say
but it's not rap, and it's not hip hop 💔
Girl i really don't think you should take that
lot of rap =/= rap centered
you say that as my breach cd plays this part wtf
josh dun
if we’re considering his recent output in terms of rap verses (overcompensate, center mass, city walls, etc), I think it could have real potential. but also as a hip-hop artist I would have to judge it from that perspective as well, which might be harsher than I do for their other albums.
then again i dont think thats what they were saying
this
it's like if ajr had done anything rap related
like they occasionally have a decent beat but it'd feel too much like theater pop if they top tried imo
Jumpsuit... but centermass is just so catchy 🥲
also ‘recent output’ extends only to Trench, almost every Tyler rap verse pre-Trench is ass but yall ain’t ready for that conversation
rhythmically i feel like they're interesting
vocally i hate it i hate it hate it
theyre not bad they can just be on the nose sometimes and might feel dated for current pilots standards
vessel i believe survived not feeling dated as much compared to blurryface
from a flow perspective they can be tolerable. But the rhymes are insanely forced, the vocabulary is not there, and the delivery is grating
like if i had to list how dated the music feels it'd probably be RAB, ST, Blurryface, Vessel, Trench and so on
after trench it just follows release order
thats fair
blurryface isnt that bad its really just a select few instances
i feel its more so dated with vessel
frick i really like both of these
blurryface is definitely a product of its era
I wasn't raised in da hood 😔
like i wont like the only ones that dont feel outdated are uhhh uhhh uhhhh
there's probably ONE
uhmmm
someone name some
Blurryface has the issue of VERY LOW LOWS and pretty good highs. overall I think it’s an album where they had a new and much bigger production budget, and a lot of new ideas (cause half of vessel was recycled RAB), and so they kinda threw everything at the wall to see if it stuck without really thinking too hard or trying to polish it. It had a lot of potential because of how much higher the production value was, but I think it feels insanely rushed honestly
part of the reason why i think a rap focused album would be great is because of how well done the sampling was in center mass, like the "right this way" repeated throughout the whole song in a way that felt sample-y, the "take that" being repeated throughout the first verse, ect
what were the biggest lows in your opinion
lane boy, polarize, and message man
Fairly Local, and Doubt and it isnt even close
i love those songs to death 😭
fairly local is the only hard listen to me
i cant stand those fucking verses
the weird low pitched horrible flow
I swear to god if Center Mass wins
those three get on my nerves like no other tøp song does or can lol
esp lane boy
bro blurryface is overhated
As kid who was actually raised in “da hood” I cringe… and also why a full rap album is not really a good idea imo
i love the flow on lane boy
...nah not really
genuinely there's only a few i can't stand
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There has to be a trench song on the finals
Trench is only top 3 pilots now sorry man
I think a rap album from Tyler when he was still saying this kind of idiotic line would have been terrible. but he actually got good at rapping so now it def has potential to be quality
that was a decade ago though, tyler has evolved as a song writer so much in that time
Clancy and Breach my beloved ❤️
You're just wrong
it's definitely their most cohesive album, but its not their best anymore 💔
It's objectively top 5 music albums ever, let alone tøp
hot take: trench isn't even top 3 pilots
objectively is fucking wild
ohhh fuck
woah woah woah hold your horses
trench is still #1, half of their best songs are from that album tbh
ok this round is actually hard
just fucking listen to Stick Season (We'll All Be Here Forever) and you got a better album than Trench 😭
hot take, it's almost TOO cohesive for a pilots album :P
honestly i think i’m gonna abstain from voting on this one
‘trench is OBJECTIVELY top 5 albums across all music genres across all time that has been’ is a take
trench isnt one i consistently revisit as much as i do with other albums but i think its their best work period in terms of production and writing
not my favorite but i think its their best quality
if you use the word “objectively” when talking about music it automatically makes all your opinions invalid
Top 5 albums oat is
OK Computer
Meteora (linkin park)
Trench
Demon Days (gorillaz)
Homesick (A Day to Remember)
I think it being a product of Tyler stuck in the basement forcing himself to get in that mindset really shines through. sucks that as artists we make our best work when we’re suffering LOL
that is a take (ok computer i agree with though)
Objectively to me just means "removing my bias"
Trench is top 5 of my albums of all time. But it is definitely not even close to top 10 of objectively best albums of all time
fr, like one of the best alt rock albums? sure. one of the best albums of all time? i love trench but it's definitely on the level of albums like to pimp a butterfly or ok computer
very true
removing ur bias is literally impossible
well that’s not what it means so don’t use it
you cannot remove your bias from a music review or a review of any art
I’m a The Bends girl myself but slay Radiohead mentioned 
The Bends is also 10/10
i am personally an in rainbows enjoyer
radiohead has like 5 genuinely perfect albums 😭
Theoretically not, but try doing it and you realize it's really easy
I just freaking love Radiohead
true
Also amazing
That was my entry point to radiohead
you quite literally cannot
I do think there’s nuance to it - like, there are conventional standards to certain elements of music, and going by those standards we can reach semi-objective conclusions. but you can remove those standards too; and then there’s no possible foothold for an objective take lol
taste is subjective
if yall havent watched their 2006 bonnaroo performance go watch it asap
its their best live performance hands down
Sure, but there is obvious objective truth to everything
Even art
Immediately proving your point wrong, if I play the same game you are here, I’d argue Clancy takes that cake and Trench is objectively incorrect
i find it crazy that i have to say this to like 5000 people
fr 😭
But I don’t play that game, so I don’t believe that
right like people will think ajr is absolutely garbage but i freaking love ajr because i love their take on theater pop
no theres not
true, but you can try to look at things from a more objective point of view, even if that doesn't remove biases. like trench is my favorite album, but i can recgonize it's not the best album ever made
there are objective truths to things that have objective core foundational standards. if you can remove standards from something and it still functions in any capacity, it isn’t objective
It takes a lot of discipline to be able to remove bias. A lot of discipline and a lot of education imo
but thats the thing, music is art, and art is such a spectrum that you cant really define something as the best
I also went to school for this entirely. Philosophy gang 
I think the whole point being there isn’t a best, there never will be, and it’s pointless to try
Comparing favorites is more fun than comparing “bests”
woah half an hour ago this chat was a bloodbath and now i come back and we're having sophisticated philosophical discussions
exactly
what happened
Just my two cents
agreed
someone said trench was an objective top 5 album oat
I said trench is "objectively" a top 5 music album
we're now discussing the fact that art cannot be objective
so we may have been kinda pretentious by correcting this person's grammar
u mean objective
cannot be objective
oops
but hey i'd rather it be in an online dispute about top songs than in the real world tbh
its hard to even compare different albums and songs and artists anyway, because they're all so different and good in different ways and at that point you can't even define what "good" or "best" means. and so i feel like its pointless to rank things or say "this is the best of all time"
While jumpsuit is amazing i have to go with center mass, putting fans in the song really makes it special to me
reminds me of something tyler the creator said, it was something like "i don't care what you think is the best album ever made, tell me why (random obscure attist)'s third album is your favorite, tell me what it means to you" and said how that's so much more interesting than discussing the "best" albums
Sophisticated philosophical conversations are my specialty
this omg
music discourse is often bs and i’m saying this as a chronic rym user
Love this, love him
Tyler gang 🔥
RYM is an addiction I don’t hold it against you 😔
people named tyler are peak
my 2nd favorite tyler
i'm more of an aoty girlie myself
What's ur aoty? I'll follow u real quick
this is why i love tyler more than tyler
yesterday a bunch of rym users were bashing aoty for their rating on the new yuno miles album
What’s rym
aoty users were just having fun and joking around. rym users have a ton of stones up their ass they hate fun
Am I old now
Rate Your Music
jumpsuit is literally him but center mass is everything to me
norapikmin3
yuno miles and fantano are the best hip-hop duo of 2025 fr
because at least tyler doesnt enable the privileged fans to do shitty things to each other lmao
The only time you can say if something is "good" or "bad" is when there are timing mistakes in the song or incorrect notes used and even then it could be on Purpose
clipse, more like eclipsed
I found tøp when I was young and spriteful (I’m 29 just being dramatic so help me god)
Website
even then someone people like the idea of asymmetrical deliveries and such
so you were 19 when bf dropped
ew get off discord
holy shit im young
Sounds about right. I saw them in 2012 during RAB era
I’m 19 now LOL
I literally have one with <200 members pls
Discord is literally for my age group pls y’all came after 


honestly it sucks that discord has the reputation it has, because it is unequivocally the best messaging platform ever made
nothing comes close
also the people running company are great afaik so that’s nice
Time flies and you learn and you still use discord so. Life goes on lmao
Mostly yes. That’s why it’s so jank a lot of times 
you can tell they love developing it as a platform (and are consumers of this kind of product) just off how well designed it is to use
real lol
Independent devs, minimal to no investors from my understanding
That’s also why Steam/Valve is the best gaming platform 👀
truee
steam is goated
now if only something like that existed but for streaming music 😔 I will hate Spotify til my dying breath
Any gamers out there 
fr, my boyfriend got banned on discord (he literally didn't do anything, his ex got banned and thought my bf's account was his alt and banned him too for some reason?) and we keep switching what we use to talk on constantly because nothing is as good as discord
bandcamp?
They do their best but they’re not perfect. Better than the alternative imo (meta, “”””x””””, etc)
But I haven’t had something like that happen So can’t 100% speak to it
the issue is finding a compromise between a streaming platform with really good utility and features, and one that’s like run by good people lol. I use YouTube Music cause at least it pays artists, even if the YouTube staff aren’t the cleverest
and also YT Premium gives you premium for both youtube and youtube music, for the one subscription
which is very handy
Imma move to gaming and find some HK fans 
This was a fun convo good song battle day love my clickkies I’m not old u r
peace
this one is kinda hard idk what to pick
center mass
jumpsuit solos but y'all ain't ready for that conversation
I’m sorry center mass is an upgrade in every single way
absolutely not
Well this is unfair.
i get that it builds up and the final chorus fucking SLAPS but paired with two pretty weak first two choruses center mass falls behind
the first two choruses of jumpsuit are equally weak. I’d say the song structure of both songs is very similar
or is it only one chorus in jumpsuit I forget
he put the whole song together really weirdly
jumpsuit is easy top 5 all time for me so im just gonna have to be devastated when center mass sweeps 😑
idk how we are expecting jumpsuit to win when center mass has sweeped everything with a HUGE margin. recency bias also factors in2 it. and jumpsuit was the opening track on trench so it got played 2 death before the album even released. obviously center mass is going to destroy jumpsuit and it's going to be so so sad jumpsuit should win this
Mental you have some of the craziest takes I’ve ever seen. /neu
Also covers my baby Blurryface’s ears.
HOTY beat center mass with a margin of a couple hundred
CENTER MASS!!
RIGHT... omg i forgot abt that. well that's hoty and jumpsuit (as much as it pains me 2 say) is NOOOOOTTT hoty. it's js not. it doesn't pull the same weight as hoty.
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@quaint swift @tropic valley easy choice
🙂↕️
you don't even have to ask me which song i gonna vote for
I think you’d be surprised how vicious the jumpsuit fanbase tends to be (not you afaik)
it beat my baby leave the city and then we got made fun of for losing by jumpsuit voters
yeah ig im trying 2 come @ this from a logical standpoint but i was not arnd for jumpsuit sweeping the first time. 🙏 Whatever wins deserves it this round so i won't be TOO sad but alas. my jumps 😔
If center mass doesn’t win I will burn this server to the ground

Center Mass. I love them both, but it's more personal for me.
This one is painful
jumpsuit
center mass pls
What does afaik stand for?
"i feel like i should know"
well well well..
LEAVE ME ALONE
gee I wonder…..such a mystery….its probably jumpsuit right? (/s)
I’m kinda conflicted because as a song center mass is better imo but jumpsuit was like the creator of an era of lore (I mean technically it was hds but that was retconned) and introduced tb, Clancy, Nico, and all that stuff
CENTER MASS PLEASE
yeaahh no waayyy how did you guesss 😲 /s
-# please
yeah i mean you're right but you wont change my mind 
I’m just a genius ig 😌🙂↕️
I’m just gonna wait for what @tropic valley chooses and maybe the prophecy will help me decide
oh sht i mean, yeah you're right that's why i voted jumpsuit of course, center mass isn't a good song it sucks 🤮 /s
kayyy
disagree heavily but okay
Oh yes ofc ofc 🙂↕️
btw my pseudo is completly false, i meant to write "hater" but it autocorrected in "fan" idk why 🥀
I feel like I will always have a leniency toward their newer stuff because I've heard their old stuff too much, which is why I'm going for the peak of their music career: center mass
underrated as fuck clikkie moment is when you like all their songs and so song battles become warzones. wdym i have to choose between CENTER PEAK and PEAKSUIT?????? this isn't fair 😥 it's not fair 😥 why can't we all kiss. center mass and jumpsuit are inseparable lovers. my jumpsuit is covering me and im shrinking down my center mass. can anyone hear me it's so dark out here.
keep jumpsuit alive
Kill Jumpsuit, still the least deserving song to win the Trench battles.
Center Mass is peak, anyway!
CENTER MASS FOR THE WIN
I understand you on this point ! I love every single song they made ! It's so hard to choose ! 
I GER YOU. THERES NOT A SINGLE SONG I DISLIKE
Peak vs peak WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME💔💔
My vote. One could say, they call it Center Mass
lowkey im aiming for center mass
Center sweep although it hurts against my boy jumpsuit
Oh I hate when that happens 😞
that part they aim for
wait wait wait wait wait
OLDIES STATION WON???
hmm
sorry guys jumpsuit is STILL peak 🙏 but i wouldnt be mad if center mass won that shit is peak
FOUND OUT WHAT IM WORTH!! I RUN TO YOU. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND!!!
THIS RUN-ON SENTENCE
MY TATOOS ONLY HURT, WHEN MEANING FADES
I THINK MY SKIN GOT WORSE, WITH GOOD INTENTIONS
I DONT WANNA SAY WHAT HAPPENED
I JUST WANNA LET IT GO!!!!
**NOTHING WAS THE SAME RIGHT AFTER **
I WENT TO THE FUNERAL
I MISS YOU SO SO MUCH
TAKE WHAT YOU WANT
TAKE WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME
<insert background synth>
that part they aim for
that piano will haunt me forever
It’s gonna be jumpsuit every time for me
You new clikkies will never understand seeing the eye close and living thru the hiatus only to come home one random day and see this song online
Plus Trench just deserves more recognition it’s literally their best album
Awww shit you’ve got a point there
CENTER SWEEP
I want to give Trench more love. I really do. It deserves better. But… center mass! I may skip this vote too. It’s asking me to divide my heart.
jumpsuit
this.
ikr
Center sweep?
nah
imo center mass is gonna win bc of recency bias but jumpsuit is gonna give a good fight anyway
and it's also js a banger song
oh my god it just came on my playlist as i was typing good lord. what a coincidence.
THEY CALL IT CENTER MASS
trench is their best album, but center mass wins imo
THAT PART THEY AIM FOR
#3 center mass fan spotted, we have to find #2 and our family will be complete
i dont remember who it is, i just saw #2 so i became #3
@bronze hemlock
yea that person
OMG
this is incredible
oops seems theres another #1 i didnt even know this
make yourself #0
yeah ive decided for center mass here
2 and 3 are the only ones following like the typical thing
imo it should be '#x center mass fan' no strings attached for everyone
that's just me tho lol
let's joe
WAIT I DIDNT SEE WHAT THE BATTLES WERE UNTIL NOW BC THE BATTLE CHANNEL HAS BEEN STABBING MY DISCORD IN THE THROAT TF YOU MEAN WE HAVE TO DO JUMPSUIT VS CENTER MASS
haha i wonder for which song you're gonna vote
lol gee I can't decide
lol don't betray our fam tho 🥲
as much as I love jumpsuit center mass is just better imo
first time in ages Ive really loved song lyrics
also the percussion is what got me into breakcore lmao
frr
honestly the only times where i click at light speed to vote in song battles is when center mass is involved, if it involves other songs i usually can't decide lol
same (it's because i don't like center mass besides the last minute from it)
but it's a good song
tally solos center mass
for sure
smooth save (/j)
I DONT WANNA SAY WHAT HAPPENED
I JUST WANNA LET IT GO
NOTHING WAS THE SAME RIGHT AFTER
I WENT TO THE FUNERAL
DIES
@twilit hearth nooo you got demoted 
well if it’s ranked then surely #0 is above #1
True true
i’m super late today
update i’m officially 2/12 yay oldies!!
center mass get me to 3/13…..
these are both absolutely incredible songs
but Center Mass is just really some of their best work :3
Center Mass is the one friend who when I'm opening up to I cry even more
Jumpsuit fs
CENTER MASS MY HUSBAND
omgg hii!!
jumpsuit sweep
THEY CALL IT CENTER MASS
THAT PART THEY AIM FOR
SHRINK IT DOWN TO NOTHIM
AND FORGETTIN
WHAT THE PAINS FOR
THAT PART THEY AIM
FORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
my 😭 tattoos 😭 only 😭 hurt 😭 when 😭 meaning 😭 fades
SHIRTSLEEVES SHIRTSLEEVES COVER ME
I really don’t want jumpsuit to win here… Center Mass all the way
I think my skin got worseeee with good intentionss
(Intentions you say….)
ALSO anyone notice how Tyler went from “intentions don’t mean much” in The Craving to “intentions are everything” in Intentions

Anyways vote Center Mass
nopee 0 is above 1 so its alright
oof this one is tricky 💔
I'll be happy w either one
i have to vote jumpsuit though bc my goat can't be out
Stole my top position 😭
Zero is NOT above 1, 2 is 😭
Plus, zero is nothing so you’re a nothing center mass fan now ☝🏻
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nvm 😭 at least i’m part of the center mass fam
It’s okay we’re a fan now 🥹
thank you 🥲
I hope center mass wins 😭 🤞
haha i wouldn’t have guessed it
but same tho
oh yeah ofc, jumpsuit is way better than center mass
center mass sucks imo ( /j )
😭
Frrr!!
turns out i havent voted
i actually was up at midnight when this came out but i was NOT making a decision
Finally I found someone in the same boat as me
yo who likes center mass??
i literally dont know a single person here that likes it
huhhh please give me name and location of the person whose screenshot belongs to i wanna fight 🤜🤛 it should be illegal to vote and re-vote for center trash 🚮 instead of jumppeak the loml 🥰
frrr nobody likes this garbage
UHHH
WASNT ME 🙈
FOUND IT ON TWITTER
I almost believed you there for a second and then I looked at your name XD
ofc ofc i trust you my fren
its cus she's a #0 fan shes not a true number
noooo ofc i was serious /j
but i’m a true center mass fan still
honestly if it gets to redecorate vs center mass its gonna kill me 😭
uh this won’t kill me personnaly 
center mass forever
sai is just my album 😭
so you’ll betray your name ?😞
nw it’s okay fren
yeahh ik
GARBAGE MENTIONED?!?!?!?
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like #3 center mass fan
lmg you are like level 30
EXACTLY
i thought i was level 1
oh
wait how do u check
use /econ score in #commands
oh yay im 3 too!!
yayy
THAT PART THEY AIM
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
Yessss let’s gooooo
Recency bias 100%
HOORAY
Nope Center Mass is just this good
Not better than Jumpsuit
opinion
They called it Center Mass 
Definitely better than Jumpsuit
that part they aim
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
Jumpsuit is their greatest song, recency bias wins again:/
rip trench
Naaaaah !! My baby Jumpsuiiiit !!! 
Alright we’re deleting the server
I'm still okay with Center Mass winning tho
No way center Mass won by that much, people are crazy
I dont rlly get the center mass hype as much as other people do tbh
YESSSS
Yall are making me hate it more
Why do yall like center mass sm
On a song that’s not even top 10 of breach
The recency bias that the clique suffers is genuinely concerning lmao
tbf jumpsuit shouldn't have won trench, there's like 8 better songs on that album
A center mass fan would say that
But if I say the same thing about Centre Mass I’m the bad guy 
morph, chlorine, neon gravestones, natn, cut my lip, bandito, pet cheetah, and leave the city are all better than jumpsuit, jumpsuit only won because it's the "hype" song from that albu
Yeah nah
No way this brother just said that chlorine and cut my lip are better
FR
Everything else I could sort of see but lets be real for a second dawg
We just straight up lying atp
they absolutely are, jumpsuit is good but it's really just the same thing repeated over and over, atleast chlorine and cut my lip grow over the course of the song
The biggest critique about Cut My Lip is that its literally repetitive 😭
but it grows throughout the song, it adds more and more elements as the song goes on
me when I lie
I dont even know how to respond to that cause I fear I’m gonna come off as an asshole no matter what I say lmao
But I’ll just say what we’re just talking for the sake of talking and leave it at that
no way
jumpsuit I still love you...
RIP Jumpsuit has been cut
yayyy center mass you’re doing great sweetie

@quaint swift @tropic valley the prophecy happened this time 
So upset
center mass<<<<<<<jumpsuit
this might be the worst song battle bracket of all time
Truly. It's because of recency bias.
i think center mass is overrated for sure
Recency bias is crazy
NOOOOOO PEAKSUIT............ MY BABY...........
sighs. sighs. sighs. i still think tally should have won the breach bracket. tally absolutely should have swept against jumpsuit and won rightly. center mass is good but it's A tier at best and tally is easily some of their best work
Center mass is great but I don’t understand the glaze
are only new gens voting in this?? this recency bias is insane LOL
sorry jumpsuit i love you so bad but center masssssss
if we’re talking about recency bias we should be talking about how the line keeps winning everything somehow
like how did the line keep winning over older songs
YAY CENTER MASS FAMILY UNITE @twilit hearth @main ibex @bronze hemlock
LETS JOE
center mass is actually understandable for winning i wouldn’t say it’s recency bias 😭
its just such a good song frfr
uh ive been listening to tøp for 9 years so idts
literally none of the songs from older albums are winning LOL y'all snubbed self titled BAD
trapdoor was my second fav in the whole thing, voted for it both times
you know ball 🤝
🤝
jumpsuit should of won
why jumpsuit keep losing center mass has one amazing section and the rest is average 😭
HELLO FREN OF THIS BEAUTIFUL FAMILY 
HEWWO
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wdym
new 2026 album?
For more time to pass by so the new album doesn’t have “bias”
But I really don’t think it’s biased people are just sore losers
recency bias so fucked
The clique is trying to change the narrative that Jumpsuit isn’t a great song and I really don’t get why lmao
At minimum its a top 5 song from them yet I see EVERYONE tryna call it one of the worst songs off of Trench 😭 😭 😭
Cause it lacks so much in lyrics AND progression… it’s the same 3 short lines of lyrics and the same riff and beat and everything throughout the entire song
It’s good, but nowhere near their top… even 20
It’s not a BAD song, it’s just not really really good either
And off of Trench, it’s on the lower side of the rankings, yeah
The simplicity of Jumpsuit is literally why its such a good song though
Some of the best drumming from Josh, one of Tyler’s best screaming performances, great production and the segway into Levitate is great
Drum Show is simple too and it’s a million times better 🤷♂️
Tbh almost any drumming from Josh is his best 😭
Sure it has a good riff and good screams, but many other songs have good riffs and good screams + more, like Pet Cheetah, Trees, Tally, and Downstairs for example
I won’t deny the transition to Levitate is good either though