#2025 Championship Song Battles 8
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Welcome to the song battle! Discuss the two songs here. The winner will be revealed <t:1764172800:R>
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The Line
Oh no
trapdoor
i love the line but trapdoor hits different
I like the line but trapdoor wins for me
I can't choose this 😭
Bruh
Whoever replies first I’ll vote the song you pick
Trapdoor fr is so goated
Trapdoor
I didn't realize how much I love both songs until now
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The line at the game awards would beat trapdoor imo
nico flashing the skull between them fries me every time
Okay!
The line is like a goated song
But in terms of recorded versions trapdoor wins
Bru 😭
noooo forest
God
Trapdoor
ill keep u in my memories
Trapdoor
Is it asking which one should be voted out or which one should be voted in
the sweep
I’m sorry, The Line
Yknow, again, if this were the live version of the line, I’d be voting the line
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CAN'T CHOOSE
coted in
Sweep Line
trapdoor, it still has one of their best bass lines
TRAPDOOR SWEEP
sweepdoor
Easy pick for me, I will go with The Line (it gets me so emotional every time)
trapsweep
Trapdoor all the way
I love The Line, but I like Trapdoor better.
and trapdoor doesn't?
Dang wait Trapdoor might win
HE THINKS THAT FAITH MIGHT BE DEAD, NOTHING KILLS A MAN FASTER THAN HIS OWN HEAD, HE USED TO SEE DREAMS AT NIGHT, BUT NOW HE’S WATCHING THE BACKS OF HIS EYES
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I think i'm going with Trapdoor
trapdoor ftw
Oh fuck you
@opaque idol think I know what you're voting
These both mean sm to me
Well, it does but idk, The Line does it more
my body’s on the line now (literally)
See Nico agrees, Trapdoor
dont trust nico
I do trust Nico
which is which??
On this at least
Trapdoor has been hitting me harder lately
I
maybe if this was the line with. the live scream id consider it a little…..but if were going with the actual songs….there is a clear winner here lol
vialism got to you
I thought both Trapdoor and The Line got taken out... I'm so confused
The angry panicky piano playing gets me
Ive had the line on Repeat all day but trapdoor got me througj some shit idk man
trapdoor
I'm listening to Trapdoor then The Line and then i will decide

@onyx wyvern do i really have to ask which song you’re voting for ?
It's double elimination for this poll
hello fellow ren…..
I'm going to be honest Trapdoor is clearly superior to the Line lol
Ohhhhhh
Boy I wonder what song I'm going to vote for. I bet none of you can guess
I love the little sigh at the end
I’m still mad that you all made HOTY beat Center Mass that’s the worst thing to happen in these entire battles
every scream in trapdoor so good
Bleeding > Blatant
it’s bleeding idc what the official lyrics say
hoty does not deserve to even be here in the top im sorry yall
Hello BrethREN
guys give the line another chance
its had plenty of chances
it's so peak
the line is so good
Say that again
Idk I prefer Blatant because it communicates that if you just take a moment to listen to somebody, you’ll clearly see they’re falling and need help
||gonna be brutally honest the line is mid when put up against 95% of their discography||
Hoty is good but Center Mass is better
RENegades
truth
omg.
I think trapdoor is underrated just like air catcher
Which one
The line is peak. Unfortunately, to me, trapdoor peak-er. More peak, if you will. Two tall mountains next to eachother but trapdoor is taller.
discord dont do me like that
I agree 1000%
air catcher is top 3 self titled
the line does something to my brain chemistry
as this isn’t the live version of the line, i’m voting trapdoor
i love air catcher
I just had Trapdoor on and it switch to Bounce Man right after. This is why shuffle is dangerous
Air Catcher 🥰🥰
and considering it was their least streamed song ever at one point….
Trapdoor is one of their best early songs though.
air catcher is like top of discography ro me its so good
To me is like Air catcher < Trapdoor < A car < Taxi cab
if only they had put the damn scream in the studio version
If you consider that The Line is in a series and trapdoor isn't then how would that turn out?
Why are the corpses fighting guys
without it the song just feels a bit flatter
for réal 😭😭
I wonder if there is a good live version of Trapdoor
for réal 😭😭
I’m voting the line, it came out a year after my grandmother’s passing and means a lot to me
my shuffle has gone from drag path to bounce man before it could always be worse
so i gotta give it to trapdoor here
Trapdoor is so good, it’s got the best scream until Lovely in my opinion
I think they have made a studio version of it before but its unreleased
Lowkey the line
the line came out a few days after one of my mom’s closest friends died and she always acknowledges that whenever it comes on in the car
I did see a live version of friend, please recently
As someone who also misunderstood it as bleeding as a kid, i love both, they both are really good. Bleeding is such a great visual, but as you said blatant is also great in communicating that it's so obvious and yet nobody bothers to reach out, check in or really listen
is it?
Nevermind it’s just the music videos birthday
November 22nd
The 22nd I just looked it up
22nd
but arcane is peak and twenty one pilots is peak imo so the mix is an amazing song
Still voting Trapdoor
The 22nd is my youngest child’s birthday as well 🥰
I see both sides but I never heard it as bleeding so that probably makes me more biased against it
Trapdoor 🗣🔥
I couldn't decide after listening to the studio versions, time to listen to live versions and decide
Ah fuck just kill me
I once had a playlist on smart shuffle play Goner followed by Ronan by Taylor swift( too sad. Auto skip) and I have apparently not learned to turn off smart shuffle
Ty
What
I've had Friend Please to Redecorate to Lavish before 💀
I think trapdoor deserves to be chosen
😭 real
I've gone from goner to tb saga 
Goner is fire
once my dj said it was gonna play sad music and the first song it played was lavish
Listen i love arcane and the line means a lot to me (i cried hearing it live and sung it like my life depended on it) but it does not beat trapdoor. Arcane or not. And i also don't like factoring songs being featured in a piece of media into these polls
The amount of play Trapdoor has gotten from me since the City Walls music video has been probably a concerning amount
Guys look at this abysmal rating
least obvious ragebait
that is atrotious
Fair! My non-native english speaking ass believed the lyric vide when it got the line blatantly (hah) wrong and didn't unhear it for years 💀
He even said he was dead serious
LMAO????
I think i know what song you are voting for

Wait guys
I realized
The grief empji is drag path

@onyx wyvern THIS IS OUR CHAANNCCEEEEEEEE
Viktor Nation, how we feeling?
I don't know what you're talking about, how would you be able to tell /j
Jaybe, jaybe not
DRAG PATH ISN'T THAT GOOD THOUGH
This is o e of my fav shows
We feeling like we voting Trapdoor
me when i lie
And yoy can go find a correct opinion
Dragpath is pretty damn good
plus she wasn’t even talking about the song she was commenting on the album cover
Lol well if the Judge won for Blurryface (which it should have) you know what I'd be voting for lol
Not 2nd on album imo but it’s good
true
Dragpath is good. I didn't listen to it right away, so I still have it in ranking jail.
It certainly isn't good enough to beat Tally
also on this one I'm voting Trapdoor
the live version is more compelling then The Line live, no hate to the line though, i love both these songs
fair
the line is one of the few songs where i think ur insane if you DON’T prefer the live version
fr
The live version is so much better
but Trapdoor live is just a little better than the line live imo
but i still love the line this was really hard to choose
eh, i'm not good at ranking things. it's on the same level as much of the rest of the album for me
I prefer TOP live in general, but I did discover them live, so I think the bar got set high at one point
We watch the game awards every year and was excited that they were performing. I thought I was prepared because I had gone to the Clancy tour. I was not
yippie!!! you have good taste
I need the game awards orchestra to travel with them.
thank you lol
also the studio version of Trapdoor has a Tyler scream unlike The Line studio version, which is a huge selling point for me
maybe a very hot take but I fear the line also has some bias because of the arcane relations ..
omg there is a live version of trapdoor from 2024
let me check the sound on it before sending
yup
oh most definitely 😅
it's good
i don't watch arcane so yeah......
like i love the line outside the show too, dont get me wrong its really good, but the show absolutely factors into it for a lot of folks
i love arcane but i try to keep it out of my rankings (i say as if i have precise rankings)
i really dont know lowkey
the only other songs from Arcane that i can think of that I like are Heavy Is The Crown by Linkin Park and Enemy by Imagine Dragons
trapdoor is just too iconic
I see a lot of people say it should be #1 of all time of tyler's screams and i do looove the line live version but I personally thing that there are other songs with better screams
I have seen Heavy is The Crown live lol
AHHHHHHHHHG I WISH
I'm stoked I got to see Linkin Park and TOP within' a month of each other.
THAT'S AWESOME
YOOOO ACTUALLY????.
I recorded some of it. But only the long scream because I wanted to see how long she did it for
The line live was obviously amazing, but even just the studio version of the song is one of their best. For sure my favorite of their lower energy songs, and I like it wayyy more than trapdoor
I feel like my preference on the song battle depends on my mood.
Fair enough, can you dm me that vid??
thanks!!!
Welp
the line sweep sorry
Not a hard decision
The Line 🪄🤍
MY BODDYY
This one is actively not fair to me personally, how rude.
ok i decided on trapdoor... i know its going to lose but i have to
such a hard choice though
I think I might have to go Trapdoor as well just knowing that it will be taken out...but I love both so much, it's okay I'm okayb😭
Taken out?
Yeah it’s already lost once and this is double elim 😢
I made my choice pretty fast with trapdoor anyway it best win
Sent
Why the skull on the line
It's lost once
this one is so brutal
this is the time that the line clutches up guys
The Line
Look, I’m the most obsessed with arcane ever. But trapdoor objectively means much more and is a better song
Trapdoor too good
Hello tally hall fan can I try you
Trapdoor and it’s not even close
i luv the line so much, but trapdor is just to nostalgic for me
it saved me, i have nothing more to say
polska gurom
oo hej :>
yooo
TRAPDOORRRR
This is unfortunately probably the only win The Line is getting
the line is going to win but i hate it for it
Its just better idk what to tell you
nuh uh 
I’ve seen people voting against Trapdoor purely because they dont agree with it winning the self titled bracket lmao
the line studio version is a good song but mid compared to trapdoor
So its getting cucked throughout this bracket
trapdoor was underrated until a year ago its so weird to see it winning
taxi cab deserved that win
or a classic like friend please
I’m more of a Fallaway man myself
i say this big trapdoor fan myself its top 3 in the album for me but not #1
I am surprised that friend please lost tbf
The animatic gave it such a PR boost
its so beautiful too
one of the only songs where i feel the janky production actually suits it
I only like a few songs off of ST and Trapdoor isnt one of them
loud incorrect buzzer
Please tell me Fall Away is one of those songs
Isle of Flightless Birds is my favorite off of ST
what st songs do you not like...
I also like Implicit Demand for Proof
I’ve been lining this gif up but he’s ducked my question 
HELP

I know how to avoid traps
do you like ... air catcher ....
Wouldn’t be a trap if you had good taste smh my head
if it makes you feel better i dont like the pantaloon or march to the sea
I mean whilst we’re here unintentionally bashing Self Titled I got something embarrassing to say
As a Clikkie since 2017 it took me until September 2024 to fully listen to Self-Titled

no thats valid
The problem for me is... the sound of ST itself is a lot slower to me and its not something I like as much as their later albums
i do not shun you for this 🙏
I had listened to every single album hundreds of times before I ever listened to Self Titled in full once though lmao
id just like the both of you to note youre talking to someone with a st username so tread lightly
The only songs I listened to was IOFB, Johnny Boy and Oh Ms Believer
I am not bashing anyone for liking the album
all bangers
wait happy oh ms believer season
That album hit first listen though dont worry
But uhhhhh
Bro TRAPDOOR
It DOES contain the only song in their discog that I skip
no thats valid
If we aren’t including doubt demo
bysyd doesnt pmo but march to the sea does i cant stand his voice in it
If it helps I've never listened to anything off of Scaled and Icy
March to the Sea is such a good title
voting in song battles when you havent even heard redecorate 
redecorate their best song of all time
Not even best off of SAI #ngltwin
None pizza left beef
big sai defender here
I’m a Formidable boy myself
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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
I ACCEPT
formidable is so fucking underrated
makes me tear up
I actually need to update my favorite 21p songs playlist
Everyone hates it I dont get why 💔 💔
formidable and timh best love songs
me myself my sai favorites are redecorate formidable shy away and saturday
this makes me an opp to most of the fanbase
saturday ❤️
I just KNOW you get called basic on a daily basis
dont make me pick
Shy Away was supposed to be their new big hit its not our fault y’all called it too basic smh
yhis aint fair
shy away is sofucking good i will fight everyone
THIS ISNT FAAAAIIIRRRRR
Well the only right answer for Trench is Jumpsuit so that makes sense
I will accept Levitate though
I'll stand beside you
cut my lip.
I have no clue if I'm basic or not
Well its not my least favourite song on trench so I’ll accept it ig
i also would die for my blood bandito and natn but those are very common takes
Mines either Jumpsuit or Nico and the Niners
i did not like chlorine until earlier this year and then it hit me like a pan to the face and now its incredible
Why dont more people answer with Levitate smh

Trapdoor forever 🫶🙏
lyrics in levitate arent interesting enough to me
Y’all didn’t deserve Slim Trenchy and that shows
My Blood is literally just my brother and I lol
i also prefer the funky sound of trench
I DON'T WANT TO CHOSE MY FAVORITE CHILD AGAIN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (still will chose the line because no acatad)
so morph cut my lip natn and pet cheetah are my bread and butter
I notice there is one song you’ve avoided so far
Jumpsuit.
oh i fucking love jumpsuit dw
Good
its not as funky sounding but like

Can I just say I hate you guys for screwing over RAB and Self Titled?
jumpsuit is goated and always will be
Kitchen Sink didn’t win I am not giving Forest my pity points
The better song lost smh
here's a controversial opinion
Disagree but cool
TO ME trench would be a perfect album if smithereens, neon gravestones, and the hype were cut
I don’t know who @‘d me but I am indeed voting trapdoor
apologizing now
The Hype???
Well . . . we can all have our opinions
the hype is not funky
I appreciate you
Have you heard the Berlin edition?
Saying Neon Gravestones should be cut thought
i like the hype berlin
That is an outlandish take
os much
fucking love it
want that
on the album
I'm sorry, neon gravestones? SMITHEREENS??????
i love the location session versions
I like Smithereens but is by far the worst song off of trench tbf
i don't like that tyler's just talking at me the whole song 💀 it's really beautiful and makes me emotional but its so out of place in the album
smithereens is very weak
Bro is the line wins this im gonna loee it
i like the performances of smithereens where its just him and the piano
“Waiter! Waiter! My lobster has too much butter on it! This steak is too juicy for my taste!”
It was right after Avicii's death, so it was kind of needed right then too.
I lowk agree but it’s not a bad song the rest are just better
thought it was included more so because of chester bennington
yes this is me
Chester would make more sense
Oh yeah it was right after that too
i would like neon gravestones as a separate single not on the album
I understand people not liking Neon Gravestones, but I think it is intended to kind of make people uncomfortable.
They were only a year apart
but it disrupts the album experience to me
it used to be my favorite on the album
so i get why people love it
Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell were who I thought of when I heard it
See to me it makes sense both album and lore wise, and musically fits really well with Leave the City
i wish the hype was swapped with hype berlin on the album
I'm surprised Kitchen Sink or Car Radio didn't win
But just my opinion
my feelings towards smithereens neon gravestones and the hype may be because theyre literally just dropped in the middle of trench and i think part of that is so that they could put NATN as the 9th song
Me with The Craving
if they reordered it a bit
i'd probably be more fond
Ok I'd agree with that one
stick neon gravestones towards the end
right around the legend leave the city duo
and i'd be very okay with it
I feel like thats the problem with EVERY TØP album
I actually kinda feel reverse about that lol
Especially with Clancy
That would have been killer placement right there
Clancy’s track order pisses me the fuck off
then bam smithereens... neon gravestones....the hype.... BAM BEST CLOSING RUN EVER
dude
dont even get me started
clancy's trakc order is like if you threw darts at a board and was like
yeah
sure
that works
I love Lavish and I love Navigating but why on gods green fucking earth are they back to back
Oh em gee do I LOVE trapdoor 😼
what in the everloving name of fuck is vignette->the craving->lavish->navigating doing
the only thing that makes esnse on that album
is overcomp opening and ps closing
everything else is completely fucking random
It does feel like a bit of a vibe change and uhhhhhh
i also accept backslide and snap back being far apart that makes sense too
And then on Breach you go from Downstairs->Robot Voices->Centre Mass
but genuinely what the hell were they thinking
Like bro
no breach tracklist makes so much more sense to me
What is robot voices doing in the middle of these two 😭
Surely it would make more sense going from Downstairs to Centre Mass
its an improvement compare dto clancy
A for effort ig 😭
I think Overcompensate into NS into Backslide makes sense, the PS at the end. The rest are indeed a bit wild on order but I'm not mad about it.
SAI tracklist is the funniest thing too
IF I CROSS THE LINEEEEE
bc they literally just were like
lets put all the fun songs here
and then the 2 weird ones at the end
yeah
Going from Tally to Intentions
the last album ordering that makes any sense to me is blurryface
i get whats happening in that album
there is FLOW
I mean that's literally Trees to Truce again.
no trees to truce i agree with
Yeah thats fine
tally to intentions is weird
Oh man.
trees and truce are thematically twins
tally is completely fucking unrelated
tally should be closer to center mass imo
maybe like downstairs to tally to center mass to cottonwood would make more sense
then stick robot voices towards the end
Tally feels like a Clancy leftover that they just thought “yeah lets wait a year to drop this”
Tally is about the whole cycle and intentions is what you learned from said cycle
you could argue
Yeah but it's still fire
that the entire album is about the cycle
Well yeah
Yes but musically it makes 0 sense
You’re going from an up-beat rock song to
Reverse instrumental
Like ????
tally is too like
tally is a very pensive song and i dont like that its second to last
it feels unresolved
Why the fuck didnt they put drag path on the album they must be punching themselves
Tyler receiving the nastiest sloppy of his life
drag path shouldve replaced intentions
Anyway I think I have to go with Trapdoor.
Actually that whiplash makes sense to me.
After the heat of battle with the internal, you get immediately pensive
i get why drag path isnt on the album but its the most beautiful closer they couldve done
Drag Path should’ve just been a single they drop 3 months after Breach released
Agree
drag path makes me bawl like a child
I loved Intentions at the end of the City Walls video but Drag Path should’ve been the last song on the album.
^^^
intentions at the end of city walls perfect
city walls opening the album feels weird to me actually
Why not on the album
Okay I'm totally with you on that
rawfear would be such a fire opener with teh vocals and everything
Like last 3 City Walls, Intentions, Drag Path
city walls is the best opener
i get story wise it doesnt make sense entirely
rawfear sets up the album theme verryyyy well too
but sound wise that is so fuckinghype
I'd also accept The Contract
rawfear lacks that opening punch its perfect as track 2 like holy cook
About to give myself the nastiest musical whiplash of my life 😍 😍 😍
It’s definitely an opening song I think it might just feel weird bc the video is the end.
i genuinely think they got stuck in the mindset that every opener NEEDS to be hype like jumpsuit; overcompensate and city walls are gorgeous tracks but they feel a bit like trying to replicate what happened with jumpsuit
(let me clarify i think overcompensate > jumpsuit its my favorite song on clancy but regardless)
I feel like Overcompensate suffers from that the most
I do like Overcompensate as an opener but City Walls should be later I agree with that
Its by far my least played Clancy song
overcompensate is a mashup of everything fans wanted from the band and like hell yeah i ate it up but its a bit fan servicy
Oh my goodness I must have played it a hundred times the week it came out
overcompensate is my most streamed song of theirs 😭
“Welcome back to Trench!!!”
You aint him bro
yes LMAO
It might be mine too
Overcompensate is purely theatrical. It works so so well. I mean I get how people can find problems with it but cmon its so so so so good
I feel like there's a message in it too
Tbf
Naur I love Overcompensate it had the exact intended effect on me when it dropped lmao. I felt so unbelievably hyped.
The best way to listen to Overcompensate is through vinyl
"I created this world to feel some control destroy it if I want" reiterated. We need to remember that it's his world and he can write what he wants in it.
Nearly 2 years later nothing has changed
Yes.
I'm like a sleeper agent and that song sets me off
That intro still gets me hyped.
Just like in Backslide with "kind of wishing that I never did Saturday". He can do what he wants and doesn't have to pander
That doesn’t excuse him for making Doubt (Demo) smh
the difference for me is that overcompensate introduces the theme of clancy ("overtake your former self" "days feel like a perfect length...the years seem way too short for my soul", etc.) but city walls gets bogged down in lore and feels like something that should come later, like after tally
I mean that was old and he just released it later lol
I know but that shit SUCKS!
wow i fucking love city walls
If Doubt (Demo) has no haters that means I have passed away
The song removed from the context of lore is a brilliant album opener. I honestly don't even hear the lore in it anymore. It just feels like its own thing to me. A good strong start.
I mean it's a demo. It's to try different sounds. It's unrefined.
Why you hating on pure fire
I wasn't gonna say it but . . .
My ears no likey
it does not make for a very accessible album intro though
jumpsuit is lore but balances that line perfectly
It's a concept album though?
so are most of their albums dawg
So you admit you're alone 🤣
Overcompensate was more on the nose
jk
It feels like the albums open and close with explicit connections to the lore but the songs in between do the character building and universe sculpting
I can't say anyone's interpretations are wrong but I really approach these albums specially because they are special to me
overcompensate has welcome back to trench & 2 lines referring to clancy, every single verse of city walls is an explicit lore reference
they're special to all of us
i'm just sharing my opinion please don't act like you're unique in that respect
Kinda, but it's also a reference to all the old songs, so if you didn't know lore but knew older songs you could still get it
yeah that too
That being said, I still agree that I think it would be good later
Oh yes give me that musical whiplash I cant wait for it any longer 😍 
HELP
Hot take but Drag Path is just GIRL HELL 1999 but 5 years sober
I can not explain to you how or why
It just is
...................
got it
yay!
They’re spiritually the same in my eyes
Line
don’t let them silence you twin you’re right
oh god
TRAPDOORRRRRRR
i’m sorry but the line is good but not THAT good
the live scream is what makes it really good
You are wrong
I love self titled but trapdoor is NOT the best song on that masterpiece
if it were acatad or taxi cab that won S/T i’d go with that but i like the line more
I lwk thought self titled was my most listened to how interesting
Literally this
acatad is so good it just encaptures everything wrong with life
Dare i say motion picture soundtrack level sad song greatness
The Line my beloved
DP not being on Spotify hurts me
I LOVE Overcompensate
Subjectivity and horse races
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Self titled means more to me than any other music
Young Tyler and young me were one in the same
Hey that's fair, its just not my thing personally
Wow
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I love trapdoor so much ❤️
It depends on if we mean the line game awards live OR the actual ost??? Like the actual ost is NOT better than Trapdoor but with the scream yes it is 💔😭😭😭 HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TELL
The Line and it's not even close especially if scream edition
PLEASE WE CANT LET TRAPDOOR DIE😭
Hoty is superior 🤷♂️
i wouldnt be mad at either of those, both are peakest of peak
Tf did hoty do to you, also yes it does
HOTY is amazing it totally deserves to be in here
Wrong
Not to Center Mass
HOTY doesn’t have a Josh dun name drop
And the Center Mass scream is better
Exactly
Just cause a song has Josh dun in it doesn’t automatically make it better
And the hoty has like 2 or 3 screams which is more than center mass, plus center mass scream honestly could’ve been screamed more
AND hoty has entertain my faith
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So it really is better
HOTY is better fr
yeah the Center Mass scream is ethereal
but I feel HOTY as a whole is more meaningful
This guy knows what’s up
That too
Look it’s probably because I’m not religious so the lyrics just don’t get me in HOTY, but personally the lyrics of Center Mass are just so so much better. And yes, HOTY has screams but they are very different from the “that part they aim FOORRRR” scream like they’re a different type and I prefer the type that Center Mass has. And yeah I was just joking about the Josh Dun name drop but still
I’ve never really felt a personally connection with HOTY but that’s probably just a personal thing
(Also I just really like Center Mass it’s my 15th most listened to TOP song of all time despite only being 2 months old)
I am as non religious as they get and idk man the entire second verse got me through some tough stuff... It's a message of hope and just the act of holding on to someone is divine to me
The second verse is pretty fire I can’t debate that
But
The ending of Center Mass feels so personal
He’s never talked about his Tattoos before
“I must’ve forgot, you can’t trust me”
“You should take my life, you should take my soul”
“Fight it, take the pain, ignite it”
So many good onessss
And the rhyming and flow of hoty… chefs kiss
i felt a deep connection to both
i can't argue much here because Center Mass is my top 1 of all time right now xD but hoty was with me through the times so there's a nostalgia thing as well
Also I personally believe that the thing he “doesn’t want to say what happened, he just wants to let it go” is the same thing that happened when his “treehouse [was] on fire and for some reason I smell gas on my hands”
I think it truly says something about me that my favorite part of HOTY is “Flesh out the door SWAT!”
Which now we’re just getting into theories but I also believe that that was metaphorically the start of the first Cycle. Because Stressed Out talks about Blurryface as a person who doesn’t have their childhood innocence anymore, and that’s what Center Mass and Forest kinda talk about
I thought it was cause it’s like a continuation of cottonwood cause it’s right after and he’s still mourning the loss of his grandpa which is why he mentions the funeral and missing them
I mean that’s how I saw it
I’ve heard that before but I highly doubt it given what the rest of Center Mass is talking about
Mb center mass is before cottonwood
…also that would be a stark contrast to the lyrics of Cottonwood
Well the whole point of cottonwood is to remember his grandpa and then with the funeral lyrics in center mass…
Cottonwood talks about how little he remembers his Grandpa but he’s glad he was there. But has to “look back in time through a telescope” to remember his Grandpa. Doesn’t really fit with Center Mass talking about how nothing will ever be the same
What other funeral would there even be
Plus Cottonwood said “the wind was tame” while Center Mass says “I don’t want to say what happened” as if something big happened to cause the funeral
Unless someone else in his life passed that I don’t know about
Given the context of the rest of the song? Could be a childhood friend.
keeping in mind I've been clancying for over a year, center mass is the only one to be able to do this... it really is that good
Could’ve been quick and fast 🤷♂️
Is that Spotify?
I really highly doubt he’s talking about his Grandpa though, because again with the whole thing about him talking about how little he remembers his Grandpa vs. “nothing was the same right after”
Although I could absolutely be wrong
I mean some Cottonwood lyrics imply that his Grandpa died to taking his own life
“I don’t condemn you” “were you sad or brave?”
It’s hard to figure out
My highest tøp songs are house of gold and redecorate for some reason
my highest are my GOATs Paladin Strait, Center Mass and HOTY (special mention Midwest)
In the past 6 months, paladin strait is up there for me lol, followed by almost the entire breach album
My Top TØP songs are Center Mass, ATROFD, Oldies Station, Lovely (Vessel), and Drum Show
I think it can be either its whatever u want lol
NOO THESE ARE MY 2 FAVS IN THIS
Oh
i forgot about center mass, number 2 & 3
lol
This ones tricky, they're both very incredible songs, the line has more of a steady cinematic develop over the whole song (plus the live scream but idk if that counts rn) while trapdoor has more energy and mood shifts as well as deeper lyrics. They're so similar but so different... i think im going to go with trapdoor though
My main issue with self titled is the vocals, his singing just doesnt rlly sound great but i dont think that rlly matters as much
I can't vote for this one 
the sweep
Hahahaha I’m not having fun anymore
Peak
Guys Trapdoor please
I know y’all are thinking of the live show here but think of the song itself
still sweeps
trapsweep
We arent voting on the live version of the line sooo...
If it was the live derision then the sweep butt
Hii flair!!
Im waiting for a professor rn uhhhh guys five me random 21 pilots song recs to listen to

-# its flare

-# Close enough
I love both but the line just makes me ascend
So real
I had The Line from the game awards on repeat yesterday and dang, that song is otherworldly. I love trapdoor but the live of The Line is just way too good. Is it specifically not the live version? Because then trapdoor may win.
the line hits a little bit more close to home, both are peak tho
I CAN SEE THE LIGHT SHINE ON MY FAAAAAACCCCEE
This one's hard 😬
Does anybody else’s discord crash every time they try to go into the song battles tab to vote?? 🥲 Whenever I click on the channel, it just gives me a gray screen. I’ve even restarted my phone and everything 😞
I can’t even vote 😭😭 I call shenanigans. This is RIGGED. THEY’RE TRYING TO SILENCE ALL “THE LINE” VOTERS 😤😤 I WILL NOT YIELD!!
Even though I can’t fight this time now, I will always feel the light shine on my faaaaa~ce 😔🦾
Will it disappoint us? Will it still win people over? (I had to get creative 😛)
Bro if The Line doesn’t win I’m gonna Riot™️
It’ll be the start of my villain arc(ane)
There’s gonna be so much Violence
I hope I didn’t just Jinx it
Okay I’ll stop now
It takes like 2 minutes to load for me
were not voting on the live version of the line btw
this is hard but I'm going trapdoor
oh shit 🫡 honesty i voted trapdoor bcs this isn’t the live version of the line so
No this was amazing 😭, I just couldn’t open discord again, I’m sorry lmao. Please never stop the puns 🙂↕️
You what.
I can’t believe this. I haven’t felt this betrayed since Clancy pulled down the red curtain and put it on as a robe 😞…
I love both of these but Trapdoor is just way better.
Trapdoor next question
Damn I just realized the Oldies Station vs Center Mass poll was only a 30 vote difference
did i disappoint you ? 🥲
That’s not in the song battles. 😪
Yes. 😔 But it’s fine! You’re entitled to your own opinion ✨
i know i know 😞
(you can bring the fire i could bring the bones)
okay that one was good 😭
thanks thanks
Nah you’re good and dw I won’t 🫡
I know you’re not asking me but yes. Very much so.
Let em’ know 🗣️‼️‼️‼️
uhh sorry 😢
(just joking 🫶)
i know i know 🫶
You'll make the fire, my bones will make it grow?
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NICO KNOWS BALL :D
yeah cause
where we’re from there’s no sun ☀️ ❌😞
That’s okay, where we're from, we're no one 🧍♂️🧍♀️❌🥲
cause our hometown’s in the dark 🌚🌃😎
(Same btw) (mostly)
Fun fact: a shadow tilts its head at me
If The Line loses the round, we are solely blaming them for it btw
Ew I shouldn’t even be saying things like that. I don’t want to put such an awful outcome out there. The Line WILL in fact get its redemption 🙂↕️
Yes yes 🙂↕️
Imagine if it loses by 1
True true
don’t.
My sincerest apologies
The stars never lie btw 🙂↕️✨
Nono it’d be ..v.’s fault
no way! me too: spirits in the dark are waiting 👻🌃
Yes yes
the line will loose
If you can’t trust the stars, who can you trust??
go trapdoor 🗣️🗣️
true though
Yk me personally I’ll let the wind go quietly
i’ll let the wind go quietly too fren
Put away put away
all the gods your father served today
off topic but
🗣️🗣️DO ME A FAVOR AND TRY TO IGNORE
AS YOU WATCH HIM FALL THROUGH A BLATANT TRAPDOOR
I always always ALWAYS hear bleeding trapdoor lol
😽
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT SONG DOESNT HAVE LYRICS THAT ARE EASILY MISHEARD???
THE LINEEEEEEEEE
LETS GOOO BRING IT HOME 🗣️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
😾
The craziest part is if either song loses the song kinda fits
Like watching Trapdoor fall through the blatant trapdoor and ‘take me out, finish this waste of a life’
And the line obviously you got “I can’t fight this time now” and “keep the memories of who I was before” and “I guess I never really faced my fears before”
I could go on
But I have calculus to do 😭
Omg what time is it for you?? 😭 I hope you get that done soon
damn i almost got late in packing all my stuff for a school trip and almost missed my bus cause i was defending trapdoor here
12…am…..
Wait what time is it for you??
9:30 am…
huh
Ew, west coast…
GOOD MORNING, ..v.!!!
ah thanks 🙏
Sometimes I forget that the earth includes many time zones ….or maybe I’m just tired….🥱
Gasp
haha nw
You shall not defame my beloved pacific standard time
And you’re in the worst one too 😔 I’m so sorry for you
GOOD (idk which period of the day) TO YOU !
Now you now how I chose my name
Double gasp
And which one are you in hmmmm????? I bet it’s a stupid one like cst or smth
It’s 3:34 am. Why am I still awake. I am not someone to lead by example 🥲
It’s the superior one. Eastern 🙂↕️
YOURE AN EAST COASTER???
Yeah! >:D
WEST COAST BEST COASTTTT
you don’t sleep much that’s crazy how do i know that
keep yourself up that’s maybe how i know that
…..bro. My brother. Sleep. I beg of you. Here on the (FAR SUPERIOR) west coast it’s only 12:30 so it’s okayish that I’m awake. But youuuuu should sleeeeeeep
We love the “huh” lore chat ✨
HAHA THEY AGREE WITH MEEEEE (unless the fire emoji is trying to tell me to burn and die in which case that’s not very nice)
nah i’m not evil 🥲
YES EXACTLY. You get it ✨
Oooooooo my hallucinations, I used to seeeee
LOLLLL
Glad to hear it
HAHAHHAHA THEY AGREE WITH MEEE
WEST COAST 🔛🔝
Me when I have schizophrenia and also recently developed blindness
You’re right (about the sleeping part 🙄). I’m sorry 😔. This song battle stuff gets crazy sometimes.
I agree. But I shall return on the morrow and we shall either celebrate most joyously or weep together (depending on the results of the battle)
I would’ve preferred you being evil over agreeing with them 😪
Bet bet. See you on the morrow tomorrow fellow Line soldier!! 🙂↕️🪖🦅✨
🫡 I look forward to our encounter (even tho you’re an east coaster.. 🤮)
(Me when I have schizophrenia and also recently developed blindness to the fact that East coast is better :P)
Oooooh just a few minutes till we find out who wins
Trapdoor better win!!!
Crazy
rip
I have bad news swordmaster
WHAT TF YOU MEAN THE LINE WON?
This is actually a crime
IKR
I'm glad it's close, I love them both
Tf you mean trapdoor lost
TRAPDOOR LOST?!?!?
HOW IN THE FUCK
Whaaaat ? Trapdoor lost ? I didn't think it would end like this ! I really thought my baby, The Line, would lose, but I'm happy it won ! (Sorry to all Trapdoor lovers however, I understand you 🥲 )
WHAT
Man these battles are true battles
You know what? I am not mad at all. I'm kind of happy it was such a close battle
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Aww well your song will always be a winner in your heart and that's all that matters
@onyx wyvern @leaden radish y’all happy now, huh ? 😞
YES VERY
Does it still mean burn in hell
I hate everyone here /nsrs
YES VERY
guys are we srs rn… this self titled hate needs to be studied
the line is good and all but trapdoor is BUILT DIFFERENT ARE WE SERIOOOOUUUUSSS
yes we are serious bc the line is amazing and I will not stand for this slander
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@leaden radish THE STARS NEVER LIE ✨✨✨🤩✨✨✨
NOOO TRAPDOOOR lost😭 😭
I think you’re just mad you lost 😜😛
🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️
trapdoor is easily one of their best songs
Oh shoot i didnt expect this
guys the line isn’t even that good in my opinion 😭😭 the live scream is what makes it good vs the studio version
WHAT
This is actually insane omg what do you mean
THE LINE WON?!
Can't say I didn't expect this, but I'm still disappointed
HOW WTF
These results are an enigma
LISTEM TO SELF TILTED OH MY LORDY
