#LATAM leg of Tour shows 3 repeating cycles

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dull narwhal
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Well, here is my theory. Put way too much time into it, but it's time to remove the band-aid, stop hiding it, and let it free. This is my theory on what the last leg of the tour (LATAM) was showing us with the repeated shirts and a step forward for what to look for in EU.

TLDR: Shirts from the LATAM leg are showing the story in three repeating cycles (timelines). This is also what the Blurryface album represents.

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https://www.figma.com/board/njmMLTBGju4cmO1Gu1CfeV/Trench-Timeline(s)?node-id=0-1&t=Z1DyGkkpPtkpXxWO-1

upbeat dagger
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this theory is so so scrumptious. what are your thoughts on the nose cut from heathens/jumpsuit/the outside ? do u think it’s possibly related ?

dull narwhal
dull narwhal
tough cradle
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Nice! I'm also interested in this 3-stories-told-at-once idea. There seems to be a lot of planned "discontinuity" through the music videos.

dull narwhal
# upbeat dagger this theory is so so scrumptious. what are your thoughts on the nose cut from he...

Disclaimer - the following theory is about noseScratch and not exactly showing the same thing as I originally saw in the LATAM shirts. Regardless, it could be the same. I just wanted to make sure that people recognize that this isn't a further explaination for the 3 timelines that I saw in LATAM. Cheers! 🍻

Pardon my delay!

Okay, this is going to be a wall of text and probably will have to split it up, but here goes. Spent the morning plotting this out.

First some rules I'm assuming:

  • When you become a 'glorious gone' your soul/essence is preserved in the neon gravestones. While your neon is intact, you can be seized by someone else. When your neon is destroyed, you can no longer be seized.
  • Seizing is controlling a dead body in another timeline. You have the ability to walk in their shoes. (This might only be from the antler's powers, not sure)
  • If your neon is destroyed while you are being seized by another, both souls create a new timeline with your soul and the one seizing you as a merged entity. NoseScratch
dull narwhal
# upbeat dagger this theory is so so scrumptious. what are your thoughts on the nose cut from he...

**HeavyDirtySoul **is the event that brought Clancy into the world of Trench/Dema. The car is the vessel (Donnie Darko Style). There are 4 unique scenes that we see with this
1st: TB drums – car loses wheel – car swerves around TB – starts a fire at drums – hood comes off -> Clancy wanders into Dema by himself

2nd: Wheel and hood are gone – car swerves around TB drumming w/fire that is growing – bishop is driving -> Bishop takes Clancy directly into Dema

3rd: Bishop is not driving – car falls apart – night time – car starts on fire – car swerves around TB drumming w/fire – Clancy jumps off and joins TB -> Clancy 

4th: It is dawn - Car drives straight and is intact.

**Jumpsuit **- this could be the events right after HDS or the middle of the timelines.
Timeline 1: Clancy wakes in trench and wanders into Dema himself

Timeline 2: Clancy wakes in trench and runs from Bishop, who eventually takes him to Dema

Timeline 3: Clancy is at the HDS car, grabs jacket, and starts walking down the road

Between HDS and Jumpsuit, it is a bit iffy in my mind as to what we are actually seeing. However, I feel like Saturday -> Paladin Strait is more clear.

dull narwhal
# upbeat dagger this theory is so so scrumptious. what are your thoughts on the nose cut from he...

Saturday
Timeline 1: Clancy performing on the sub and the seized dragon crashes the sub.

Timeline 2: Keons in Dema with the Neon, seizing.

Timeline 3: Doesn't exist yet.

So, to recap. In 1, Clancy is performing, In 2, Keons starts seizing the dragon's body in 1 and he crashes the sub. Let's assume that after the sub crash, Clancy died in the ocean. 

**The Outside **
Timeline 1: Seized dragon at the bottom of the water.

Timeline 2: Keons seizing the dragon and gets killed by the bishops. 

Timeline 3: Clancy at Voldsoy. (noseScratch)

At the start of the video, we see that Keons (in 2) was seizing the dragon (in 1), and the Bishops kill him (in 2). At this point (2) Keons is dead, but he can be seized because his soul is still intact in this timeline (2). 
Let me jump to the end of the video: Clancy (in 3) seizes Keons (in 2) and after some sick dance moves, destroys Keon's 'Neon' (2). Keons no longer exists, as Keons, in this timeline (2). His soul escapes from the Neon and creates the timeline (3). Keons has been recreated as Clancy with the scars he received from the bishops (in 2), noseScratch.

Overcompensate
Timeline 1: Could the seized 'Clancy' at the end of the video be happening in this timeline?

Timeline 2: Clancy recruiting people to his cause. (Before Paladin Strait has happened, so Keons is not a bishop yet in this Timeline).

Timeline 3: Clancy seizing someone pretending to be Clancy. (noseScratch)

I go back and forth on this one, but I think the majority of this video happened before Clancy became Keons (See Paladin Strait above).
dull narwhal
# upbeat dagger this theory is so so scrumptious. what are your thoughts on the nose cut from he...

Navigating
Timeline 1: Nothing in this video.

Timeline 2: Clancy rocking out at fire.

Timeline 3: Clancy meets Banditos on the shore (noseScratch). TB Walking with the mask toward Clancy. Clancy meets TB at fire, receives Clancy Mask.

Paladin Strait
Timeline 1: Clancy picks up antlers that are already in one piece. We've never seen antlers whole, so I'm assuming that this is before anything else we have seen. Later, he forges these into 2 pieces. With the banditos, he is given the map and Clancy outfit. No black on neck or hands.

Timeline 2: Clancy on shore singing with his uke. Black on necks and hands. Goes with Banditos to tower. Scales the tower, and 'destroys' the bishops. These bishops were being controlled by Nico as a trap, so the bishops aren't gone. Nico grabs Clancy, and Clancy drops the two antlers. Clancy opens his eyes, he is now Keons. Maybe Nico asks him to become a bishop and the shore is him contemplating the idea, eventually accepts, with a plan, and becomes Keons. 

Timeline 3: Nothing here, the events take place prior to this timeline being created. (no noseScratch). It's possible that the bishops seizing the vultures are from this timeline into the timeline 2. This is how they knew that the banditos were coming. 

After these events, Clancy's soul gets preserved in neon and with this, Nico creates Keons as another bishop. Keons still has the antlers that Clancy scaled the tower with, and what he uses to seize the dragon. Torchbearer somehow retrieves the Clancy mask. 
Keons assumes the role as the 9th bishop, and takes leadership of a district in Dema. His thought is that you can't control other people, you can only guide them (free spirit). Keons learns the powers to create timelines, and begins to plot how to destroy Dema. (Long game).  Since his own soul, Clancy, is preserved in neon, he keeps recreating timelines utilizing his soul.
upbeat dagger
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oh wow so you’re saying keons IS clancy? i gotta like draw this out so i can understand it visually but im definitely smelling what you’re cooking this is so cool

tough cradle
dull narwhal
vagrant yoke
wintry moss
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Different time lines sounds on point. I went back to the paladin straight video to see when Clancy's hands become black again and they are immediately black when he seperates from the TB to climb the tower... unless I've missed some other significant reasonings otherwise.

dull narwhal
tough cradle
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@dull narwhal I know this is only a part of your theory, but I'm really interested in the continuity quirks in the music videos. Do you know of any documentation that's been done on this already, so that I'm not just repeating other's work? I had previously found the jumpsuit armband and that sent me down a little rewatch, spotting things such as the antlers The Outside. Just now I rewatched HDS mv and noticed a whole bunch of stuff (going from nighttime at 0:07 to daytime at 0:12, the marks on the car window, all four doors falling off and then the doors miraculously being back on for example). It's so weird all these little things which are quite blatant once you spot them.

tough cradle
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Looking at those shirts with the three versions of Clancy on them... I hope we aren't gonna get three different versions of the ending or something... just trying to figure out what splitting into 3 could signify...

dull narwhal
dull narwhal