Answer here - #133: Something You Would Change About A TØP Song

[atomic vigil]

THE FUCKING

[wintry jacinth]

yo

[atomic vigil]

SILENCE

IN PALADIN

[chilly tusk]

AHHAAH YES

[hard mauve]

lmaooooo

[atomic vigil]

SHORTEN IT

[frigid shard]

silence in the judge

[chilly tusk]

I ALWAYS THINK MY AIRPOD BREAK

[opal swallow]

YESSS

[hard mauve]

take the eagle screech out of Vignette

goofy as hell

[sharp mortar]

the long ahh silence in palidin straight

[opal swallow]

WHAATT

[atomic vigil]

THERE SHOULDVE BEEN A PALADIN EDIT NOT AN OVERCOMPENSATE EDIT

[opal swallow]

NOOOO

[frigid shard]

AMERICA 🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🔥

[abstract wren]

nah i think the eagles sick

[chilly tusk]

nah

[warped cradle]

no autotune in Air Catcher

[turbid hemlock]

Get rid of the “tribute to zombies” line in Vignette. In every other aspect I love the song, the line is just a bit too weird

[mystic sequoia]

No >:(( the vultures are great

[meager quail]

the silence in paladin strait is AWFUL

[hard mauve]

eagle/vulture/bird whatever. goofy screech ruins Vignette intro for me

[trail void]

the whooshing at the beginning of the judge

[topaz jasper]

that weird cut kinda thing in Saturday i always think my audio is broken

[chilly tusk]

oh definitely, or at least less

[past smelt]

bounce man

[atomic vigil]

you will never take her from me

[zenith marsh]

The paladin silence, make the vultures be in every song of Clancy

[drowsy sable]

the order of the musics in vessel

[hard mauve]

"what the fuck is a kilometer" ahh production

[past smelt]

please remove bounce man 😭

[peak stump]

How long the intro is in Implicit demand for proof 😭

[loud geode]

I would change “blatant trapdoor” to “bleeding trapdoor” bc it annoys me so bad now that Tyler said the real lyric was blatant trapdoor

[jagged pond]

Slowtown not being released officially<3

[atomic vigil]

thats that kobota usa type beat

[hard mauve]

LOL

[drowsy sable]

but it's so good!!!

[spring ermine]

The paladin strait silence makes me sleep and forgot Iam listening to a song

[trail void]

either this or change the vocals a little tiny bit in fall away

[spring ermine]

And forest

[turbid hemlock]

have you heard the alt version? it’s missing the intro, but for the most part it’s almost better in every way

[peak stump]

It is but could it be like. 20 seconds shorter

[misty tinsel]

make the peak of anthema quieter

my ears ring

[trail void]

AND THIS

[waxen zinc]

Any regional at best song gets released in an album

[red sundial]

delete the current pet cheetah and make it into the fake leak 🙏

[warped cradle]

no i havent... imma go do that rn

[silver nimbus]

WHY DOES PALADIN STRAIT HAVE A MINUTE OF SILENCE

[sturdy merlin]

lol my dad hates it as well

[sharp mortar]

make the instrumental in car radio shorter

[still edge]

i dont remember which but a song has the same noise as my headphones dying which always really confuses me

[narrow jewel]

More rap on No Chances or Pet Cheetah

[stone dust]

i think everyone agrees with the long silence in paladin strait

[sour pilot]

I actually love it

[dusty obsidian]

Change the constant “slits” in before you start your day so i can listen to all albums without skipping

[west urchin]

I would extend that little solo at the end of Backslide

[dry fox]

Remove the weird voice paet in air catcher

[loud quiver]

the silence in paladin i HATE IT

[copper rain]

get rid of the bird song and the outro for paladin and extend the last chorus maybe add some cool instrumental maybe a guitar solo or smth of sorts

[sour pilot]

Yup

[low wing]

Pacing of the lyrics in snap back. Would be better as a hip-hop like song

[robust lily]

Idk
I'd want more screams in general

[zenith elm]

I’d remaster and officially release Regional At Best.

[burnt sequoia]

all of them. longer.

[teal flume]

My mom: get rid of single version of TC
Me: get rid of the silence in Paladin

[sturdy merlin]

It’s quirky 🤪

[misty oak]

take out the autotune part of lovely 🙏🏻

[dreamy monolith]

The silence in palden strait

[sour pilot]

This

[snow mist]

TACO BELL SAGA PUT INTO THE CLANCY SETLIST

[sour pilot]

Frfr

[mellow mortar]

I would put the shy away scream into the original studio song.

[copper rain]

oh yeah that too

[slow latch]

I second that

[cedar falcon]

Remove the last minute of cut my lip

[rustic cairn]

hds should have the scream as well :/

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[oblique drum]

what

[deep jewel]

Have Josh dun mentioned every song

[bronze steeple]

Change that line in Lavish

[uncut leaf]

End of vignette not being no it’s not me it’s for a friend, but being a big built up end with other lyrics

[dusty obsidian]

noooo

[copper rain]

the silence in paladin strait

[sharp mortar]

extend the outro for choker

[burnt sequoia]

but fr I’d like the songs less than 4 min to be at least 4 min idk I love the longer songsss

[sour pilot]

One of my fav liness

[sleek tangle]

SO TRUE

[visual cargo]

both hands on your shoulder while you're bottomless

[dreamy monolith]

Yesss

[sturdy merlin]

NAVIGATING HAVE SCREAM

[teal flume]

Hell no

[sturdy merlin]

OR

SNAPBACK

[fickle maple]

Adding the trumpet part to fall away

[dusty obsidian]

Fr tyler didnt have to go so hard but he did and i love it

[warped cradle]

im disappointed in myself, how have i never heard this

[sour pilot]

Exactlyy

[bronze steeple]

Lol yeah, it's an unpopular opinion

[broken lynx]

I woould change the second to last choruses end in navigating to have a longer breakdown before it jumps back

[snow mist]

SCREAMS FOR MORE SONGS

[uncut leaf]

more trumpet in all of it

[still edge]

replace good day with bounce man 2

[sour pilot]

Seriously

[ebon wolf]

"so now you pick who you serve, you bow to the masses get kicked to the curb for passing the classes"
Is kinda goofy line 🥶🥶

[teal flume]

GOT BOTH HANDS ON YOUR SHOULDER WHILE YOURE BOTTOMLESS

[sour pilot]

YUHHH

[uncut leaf]

bandito less reptitive

[slow badger]

I wish Midwest indigos ending wasn’t so sudden

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[uncut leaf]

formidable longer

[foggy cairn]

Put the craving single version on the album instead of Jenna's version

[robust cloak]

CUT MY LIP THE BRIDGE IS SO SHARP IT MAKES ME DIE

[sharp mortar]

get rid of the ending of the outside

[uncut leaf]

Real

[humble notch]

Make the whole “overcompensate” sound like it’s intro

[sour pilot]

ALMOST SANG THIS AT MY CHURCH CAMP BUT ENDED UP WITH VIGNETTE INSTEAD

[narrow jewel]

Screaming on Overcompensate?

[tardy arrow]

Take out the beginning of The Craving (Jenna's version) it kinda takes me out 😭

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[covert cloak]

which one? 😮

[sour pilot]

Yk… the one…

[bright oar]

lowkey the last chorus for Navigating could go way harder after that bridge

[copper rain]

Midwest kinda sounds AI somehow, it just sounds artificial and idk why

[mellow mortar]

btw I always had this idea that at the end of good day, the last verse could be "I'm alright. I'm alright... it's a lie". Instead of that "it's a good day".

[uncut leaf]

have more of the bridge in semi automatic

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[tardy arrow]

Nah we keeping that one

[fluid oak]

Add all the rab songs into spotify cuz some r missing

[sour pilot]

Yeeyee

[teal flume]

My mom said that that adds to the story, saying Clancy is fighting and finding Nico but worries about Jenna…

IS JENNA CANON???

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[narrow jewel]

I was defenietly expecting at least one or two with screaming and I think it’s the only song that screams would fit on

[robust lily]

I'd also want regional at best to be available on Spotify
I'd change that

[covert cloak]

I.. pls.. i need to hear it

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[robust lily]

I just noticed that someone else said that
Gn

[ionic wolf]

that one lavish lyric... 😭

[sleek tangle]

I think i would've changed the fact that formidable could've been better musically, like the song was building really good it would've progressively turn really good but it ended up kind of disappointing

[mint heron]

Backslide’s intro vocals, it’s just that little off time pisses me off and sounds voice memo quality, however it gets better in Pre chorus and chorus and also the 2nd verse

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[sharp mortar]

the one part of overcompensate that goes like "way too short for my soul cordosont"

[teal flume]

It’s ok I can’t listen to it either

[copper rain]

Next semester should have been longer

[covert cloak]

which one i wanna knowww

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[dark grove]

Not necessarily a song thing but I think The Craving SV would work a lot better in Clancy compared to the Craving JV

[prime cosmos]

Real

[teal flume]

Nuh uh

[sour pilot]

I SEE YOUR PROBLEM IS
YOUR PROCOTLOGIST
GOT BOTH HANDS ON UR SJOULDER WJILE UR BOTTOMLESS

[uncut leaf]

nah real

backslide to have more melodic singing

[covert cloak]

haaa. gay.

[teal flume]

Backslide is perfect all of you stfu

[sour pilot]

brutha

[dreamy sail]

what does this mean

[iron kraken]

Add the lone-one-one in every chorus in Migraine

[unkempt bough]

I would cut the silence in paladin strait to like 10 secs max

[sour pilot]

Frfr

[uncut leaf]

nothing is perfect

it’s a damn fine song

[teal flume]

Except Backslide

[valid nymph]

definitely cut out the silence in paladin

[copper rain]

Bro imagine the ending part was longer, the acoustic part is amazing

[sour pilot]

Its cut in the MV like-

[uncut leaf]

but improvements are everwhere

[copper rain]

Better singing on anathema

[dusty obsidian]

Cries

[dark grove]

Cut the silence in Paladin ❤️

[uncut leaf]

It made no sense when it wasn’t in the mv

[unkempt bough]

Yeah it just messes with listening a little to much

[narrow jewel]

Music vid for Taco Bell Saga

[sleek tangle]

What do you guys think about the doubt's chorus? the abo-bo-bo-bo-bout me? is it annoying or is it fine?

[sour pilot]

Fair

[iron kraken]

Shadows will scream that I’m alone-one-one but I knoowww we’ve made it this faaaarrrr. kid.

[teal flume]

That’s true

Also I own Next Semester in Fortnite

[jaunty marsh]

Add a scream to a lot of them, or shorten Lane Boy

[copper rain]

It’s a well written song but i just cant stand the way he does the verses 😭

[mellow mortar]

I like it

[acoustic thunder]

it's a lil annoying

[mint heron]

I really like it

[obtuse crane]

change the weird medieval sounding chorus in no chances because it would have been so good but that just makes it unlistenable for me

[dusty obsidian]

Doubt slays i remember thinking this like 8 years ago but im cool with it now

[teal flume]

HELL no Lane Boy is amazing

[stark tinsel]

I’ve always thought the Lovely intro should be longer. I know it’s so random but Its always bothered me 😭😭

[sleek tangle]

nice

[uncut leaf]

more chorus in holding onto you

[dreamy sail]

OHHH

[unkempt bough]

Actually I know something better

[dreamy sail]

yeah i want that too

[copper rain]

I bought it first day cause I'm not good with money

[iron kraken]

YEESSSS

[wary grail]

You get it ☝🏻

[jaunty marsh]

I’m not a Lane Boy hater, but it seems long at times

[sleek tangle]

i think most people would prefer if it wasn't like that but i don't complain

[severe obsidian]

Birds in paladin

[narrow jewel]

The Vessel version of Lovely 100% belongs on Vessel

[uncut leaf]

we need more ‘you are surrounding’

[sleek tangle]

it has its charm

[still edge]

not a song but making sai livestream actually officially available

[valid nymph]

right like what is the purpose

[iron kraken]

I swear

[turbid hemlock]

that version of the song is too good that i’ve had to hold myself back from over listening to it. same thing with the vessel version of lovely

[teal flume]

Blurryface is perfect, no skips man, especially Lane Boy and Ride

[unkempt bough]

Change all of regional at best so that they are actually available on TØP’s Spotify

[uncut leaf]

ngl all the vessel bonus tracks I just treat as vessel rather then rab

[tender chasm]

THE AUTOTUNE IN LOVELY.

[obtuse crane]

this with no phun intended too

[dusty obsidian]

Theres two versions

[narrow jewel]

Yeah but most people including me don’t have the bonus tracks on streaming

[unkempt bough]

Yes

[sleek tangle]

i don't skip any tøp song lol, just for example really sad and heavy songs that i won't listen when i'm not in the mood for

[tender chasm]

i know but id love it if the og version didnt have autotune 💔

[uncut leaf]

thought they spotify😔

[teal flume]

Make the single version for the craving on the album and then put JV as a single

[tardy gorge]

The original demo from ode to sleep where he robotically repeats "up" in the beginning, I liked that more

[uncut leaf]

YES

IVE BENE SAHING THIS

YES

[narrow jewel]

The only difference is no autotune and better quality

[uncut leaf]

they should of released Jenna’s first

and then single on the album

[wary grail]

I would delete the scream at the end of The Run and Go and just have him sing it normally. I just feel like it doesn't fit well in that song, and I like that song a lot but that scream is the singular part I don't like

[dry elk]

Add more Tyler screams

[uncut leaf]

shush

no

[stoic rose]

put the alt version of air catcher on spotify, its so much better without the autotune 😭

[uncut leaf]

the run and go end is impeccable

[sleek tangle]

OH YES THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I WOULD CHANGE

THE "I'LL TELL EEEEEMMMM" FROM RAB'S VERSION AT THE END

[wary grail]

Just in that one song

[sleek tangle]

I MISS THAT

[teal flume]

Like the album is so upbeat for the most part (until Navigating) but then JV cuts it off and then goes into WELCOME TO THE NEW WAY OF LIVING ITS JUST THE BEGINNING OF LAVISH

[compact merlin]

air catcher needs screaming tbh

[uncut leaf]

I looove the run and go

[wary grail]

Me too but

[hard mauve]

OH add the screams to shy away and hds studio versions. he always does them live, should've been in the officials too 🗣️

[wary grail]

Just not a fan of the scream

[fickle maple]

add guitar to jumpsuit for the intro

[neat sentinel]

Get rid of the "Death inspires me like a dog" line in HDS

[uncut leaf]

also I felt JV was underwhelming after hearing singles

[teal flume]

Do you understand how lore needed it is

It’s part of the lore dude

[tender chasm]

maybe the part at the end of slowtown after the bridge where you can make him out screaming “WE’RE GOING TOO FAST FAST SAVE US”

[wary grail]

Oh yeah and swap the single version for Jenna's version on Clancy

[tender chasm]

please someone know what im talking about

[dry elk]

Jv fits the album but sv is more upbeat which fits singles

[sleek tangle]

it's like tyler was producing the song and thought "dude, this is like, vessel it needs a scream" and proceeded to scream that last line xjskdknd

[neat sentinel]

It still feels awkward to me

[teal flume]

Fr

[wary grail]

Yes this is how I feel

[proud shoal]

i would change the fact that Tyler and Josh aren't here playing me music at all times of the day

[obtuse crane]

YES

[uncut leaf]

nah single version fits better

[stiff ermine]

SNAP BACK

AND IT'S MELODY

[tender chasm]

this

[scenic tangle]

People saying the silence in Paladin…. Y’all don’t understand nothing will ever match the first listen of that song where we had no idea what was happening and THE FEELING WHEN THE UKE COMES BACK IN?? UNMATCHED! The ending is a PERFECT hidden track moment and I wouldn’t change it for the world!

[teal flume]

He’s saying everyone else wants to die but him

[runic inlet]

WHAT? I HEAR BLEEDING 😭

[patent rock]

Forest

[uncut leaf]

nah tbf, it just didn’t make sense it not being in the mv

[teal flume]

Hell no

[true raft]

Shorten the beginning of fake you out

[wary grail]

Yes but
It needs an edit on spotify

[sleek tangle]

it would've been interesting if jenna's version was a little less a part of the album and instead the single one would've been part of the album because that one is more the vibe of the album while the other would've stayed as the alternative and more personal to tyler version

[teal flume]

Like if the silence was for the lore then it’d be in the mv

[copper rain]

I wish Lavish or maybe Vignette was like 10 hours long lol

[tender chasm]

same w “im a kitchen sink” and “at my kitchen sink”

[wary grail]

Yes

[teal flume]

Or… single version is extended with Jenna’s version

[scenic tangle]

They said they made the song with the audio in mind. It not being in the video doesn’t bother me. The video cuts off half the uke too which is great in the actual audio

[sleek tangle]

but i think i prefer jenna's version being like the "official"

[slate wind]

Saturday... I'll make it more pop so we would appreciate for what it is now

[neon wing]

i think the album version shouldn't have had the end at all, then the one with the final verse should've been released separately

[teal flume]

Kinda wishin that I never did Saturday….

[sleek tangle]

isn't it pop enough already

[uncut leaf]

just cannot find a reason for the silence other then the mv, so it made like no sense to have it

[wary grail]

Livestream secret ending

[teal flume]

AAAAAAAA
-Tyler

[slate wind]

That is the point. It would make us appreciate it more

[tender chasm]

i dont want this changed but does anyone know about the part at like 2:26 in guns for hands where tyler screams “suicidal” in the background?? i feel like im the only person who knows about it

[neat sentinel]

I read it more as Death inspires him with the fear that he will die. I know the lore implications but honestly, nothing changes if you take it out and I think there are probably better ways to say what he's going for than that line

[uncut leaf]

would add another tonight I’ll need you to stay

[stray dove]

all of their choices of singles

[sleek tangle]

that's true but here's the problem

what's the reason of existence of that silence if in the mv was removed? yes maybe they didn't know what to do in a whole minute of silence but idk i just feel that as a "oh yes we did a minute of silence.. well now it's not part of the lore anymore" or maybe it's just me

[bleak stag]

The dos in The run and Go

[uncut leaf]

nah

they are great

[proud shoal]

i would also change the fact that I can't talk to them and tell them that their music means a lot to me both lyrically and melodically

[neon wing]

its because the final verse, while connected to the song, is meant to function as a hidden track.

[bleak stag]

i still love that song but they do get annoying

[neon wing]

like it makes sense to me that they kept it but they should've made the album version not have it

[uncut leaf]

they are such a vibe

[modern hollow]

Auto tune in air catcher and lovely RAB

[bleak stag]

i would delete Formidable, no changing it it'll just be gone

[uncut leaf]

you have the worst takes

[sleek tangle]

oh that's makes a whole lot of sense

[neon wing]

boooooooo

[uncut leaf]

formidable is such a good song

[neon wing]

oh speaking of air catcher

[coral ermine]

more drums at the end of morph

[sleek tangle]

it might be one of the weakest of scaled and icy but it's really good

[uncut leaf]

the autotune in aircatcher is no big deal

[neon wing]

id make the alternative version the one they put on the album

[bleak stag]

there's already versions without the autotune for both

[uncut leaf]

don’t get the hate

[coral ermine]

omg formidable is one of my favorite songs on sai😭

[hasty hedge]

MAKE THE ENDING OF BACKSLIDE LONGER IT WAS A BANGER

[neon wing]

alt air catcher is superior

[uncut leaf]

LITERALLY

[sleek tangle]

that would be a better solution

[bleak stag]

yeah

[obtuse crane]

change the “in 7th grade i learned to firebreath” line in levitate because it makes me recoil whenever i hear it 😞

[neon wing]

formidable is my favourite on sai

[coral ermine]

im just worried my loyalty will bore u🥲 its so good

[neat sentinel]

I love that it has the silence and it leads to what essentially is a modern day hidden track when we're surrounded by leaks. And If I had to choose keeping it on streaming or on the CD I would pick the CD

[sudden finch]

make every song off of clancy a single 💯💯

[bleak stag]

i think i pissed a lot of people off

[sleek tangle]

well at least you don't hate not today

[scenic tangle]

If we were introduced to the song as it is in the video it would not have hit as hard. Getting the video afterward and skipping the silence makes sense because if we’re watching the video we already know how it ends

[uncut leaf]

not today is 🥺

the silence only works for the first listne

it’s annoying from then

[neon wing]

yeah i agree, id have the final verse hidden on the CD instead of having it on the same track because its amazing but even when they release new music for this era, the album itself will not have the complete story

[remote oasis]

Nothing

[sleek tangle]

that would imply on live they will keep the silence?

[neon wing]

not today is so overhated

[hasty hedge]

Honestly I’m good with how everything is from them. Backslide ending AND releasing RAB are my only two complaints

[bleak stag]

idk why people hate not today, i understand it's weird and doesn't make to much sense but it's good

[sleek tangle]

meaning it's just a MV thing

[ember mortar]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 3!

[sleek tangle]

backslide ending? that's interesting can i know why?

[scenic tangle]

That would be incredible actually. Especially if they did it as an encore moment

[tardy oasis]

Make truces less ringie idk it hurts my ears sometimes

[sleek tangle]

i think people forgot the reason why not today exists but yeah, it's a good song don't get the hate

[sterile folio]

the "might get ... loud" part towards the end of Saturday, it just sounds weird to me

[hasty hedge]

I need the backslide ending to be longer, it’s so good I was sad when I listened to it for the first time and it just stopped

[fiery marsh]

Extend the redecorate speech in the studio version to match the Livestream

[bleak stag]

oh, make levitate longer add more lore to it

[sleek tangle]

yeah it ends really suddenly but i think it's part of the idea of a loopy thing

[hasty hedge]

Ahhh

Yeah

[woven acorn]

Give Fall Away more streams

[hasty hedge]

If we got it in single format though

[neat sentinel]

That's a really good idea, and in a roundabout it gives us 14 tracks on the album

[bleak stag]

LMAO

[neon wing]

officially release time to say goodbye

[lucid arrow]

Instead of saying “you should let go its over my head” twice add summin else there in backslide idk

[spare fox]

rab on streaminv

[sterile folio]

yesss

and no phun intended

[spare fox]

i need to listen to anathema every single second of every day and have it count on fm bot

[bleak stag]

studio version of coconut sharks in the water, that's what we all need in life

[neon wing]

LIKE I KNOW TTSG'S SAMPLE IS PROBABLY NOT CLEARED BUT CMON ITS TOO GOOD NOT TO BE ON STREAMING

[neat sentinel]

And yeah, The only way I see the album not feeling incomplete with new stuff is if it's a Clancy Deluxe Edition

[loud geode]

Me too but he said it’s blatant

[sleek tangle]

it would be insane that's such a great song but i think the copyright makes it impossible for it to be released officially i'm afraid

I would love to see it officially

[sick shoal]

more vulture motifs in trench

would be sick

[neon wing]

yeah sadly. it sucks so bad that ttsg is only known because of an UBER rare cd that they made pre-ST

[sleek tangle]

noooo he confirmed it? i like to think it says blatant through the song but right at the last chorus it would then change to "bleeding" meaning the character ended up falling through the trapdoor

[bleak stag]

WE need a clear and be concerned live version

[sleek tangle]

it's just a personal thing but i think it's an interesting conclusion

[neon wing]

wasn't ttsg also joshs first introduction to the band 😭

[neat sentinel]

Glowing Eyes Live 🗣️

[neon wing]

SO REAL

[sleek tangle]

1st one he heard yes

or at least i think it was

[slow kayak]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Z0RUInbKW_2LkgLEj33A6hBbTgsLIOvu?usp=sharing

[bleak stag]

agreed

[slow kayak]

u reminded me i made an edit

[neat sentinel]

That's so funny!!!

[tardy gorge]

Phone lights come on when he says "to all the glowing eyes"

[lapis drum]

Unpopular opinion here but I would change "I don't wanna be here, what's about to happen" part in Next Semester. The way it's sang annoys me every time I listen to the song

[tribal karma]

Proctologist line

Nothing more for me to say

[neon wing]

the proctologist line makes the song so much better

[chilly tusk]

it's so fun tho

[bleak stag]

how Tyler says "Capri-son" in Lavish

[slow kayak]

it’s the streaming version of paladin in HQ but i removed the silence and replaced it with the bit in the mv

[tardy gorge]

Accoustic album

[heavy mortar]

If Trees’ second verse was slightly different to the first verse lyrically, it would be a straight up 10/10. as it stands it’s like a 9.5

[neon wing]

like its so good as is but that one line... chefs kiss

[neat sentinel]

It would be so perfect, and the song has vague lore connections so I could see it fitting in extremely well for this era

[wide otter]

Make JLAndersonMusic's cover for routines in the night the actual song

[slow kayak]

you can add it to spotify or whatever so you can listen to paladin without the silence

[neon wing]

it wouldn't have worked if he said it normally

[tardy gorge]

The background tvs have slow waiving torches too

[shell girder]

Have the craving single version to cease to exist

[pallid pewter]

minute of birds of paladin strait

[heavy mortar]

that’s why you gotta write your rhymes more cohesively

[heavy mortar]

this

[pallid pewter]

and the terrible mic efect on the craving SINGLE version

[tight cedar]

id change the way that the words “lane boy” are sung in in the TØP x MM thing, it’s so different from the original and I don’t like it :’))

[bleak stag]

vessel 10th anniversary stream is a thing

[neat sentinel]

I really love how vulnerable it sounds

[tight cedar]

still a good song tho

[slow kayak]

lol lucky for u i just posted my edit of it

[neon wing]

yeah, though i would make it even more emotional tbh

[tardy gorge]

Yeah but downloading mp3 files takes effort 😤

[woven acorn]

I scrolled up and saw someone put more screams in general, YES PLEASEEEE

[heavy mortar]

this is my literal only gripe with the song everything else is perfect

[bleak stag]

that's how i listen to all of my songs

[vale glacier]

wish there was an edit of ode to sleep that maintained the same beat from the intro because it goes so hard

[left matrix]

Just more screaming in the whole “Clancy” album

[neon wing]

yknow what. id rerelease self titled but not as upscaled mp3s

[lapis drum]

Well to me it doesn't seem vulnerable, more as if he didn't care. But I understand people who enjoy NS and feel connected to the song and its message

[tardy gorge]

.wav is more clear but hell yeah

[left matrix]

I miss some badass emotional screaming 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻

[neon wing]

for context: the highest quality self titled currently exists in is 320kbps because they just released upscaled mp3s

[bleak stag]

i think the screams only work when he needs to show a lot of emotion, so idk, if he screamed in like Lavish or oldie station it would feel out of place, you know?

[ember mortar]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 6!

[neon wing]

so like even if you had a legitimate self titled cd you wouldn't have like "cd quality" songs

[heavy mortar]

in Lavish it wouldn’t work cause it’s supposed to be a fun song, but I think he could pull it off in Oldies

even if it was just a backing vocal

[urban valve]

But that's the good version of Lane Boy.

[bleak stag]

LESS HATE ON STRESSED OUT

[heavy mortar]

but even as a front vocal it could work, like in House of Gold

Oldies is a really emotional song

[tight cedar]

In my opinion the original is better, and that’s fine that you like the other one better, we’re allowed to have different opinions

[bleak stag]

idk, maybe if i heard it then it might work

[left matrix]

More emotional screaming for the people!!!!

[urban valve]

MUTEMATH on the whole are all amazing geniuses. Roy can play Drums as well as Guitar and his main instrument Bass Guitar

[tight cedar]

yes!

[heavy mortar]

OH I JUST REALISED, aside from my Trees change

another change I’d make

is take out the raised in the hood line from Lane Boy

[bleak stag]

YES

[heavy mortar]

good grief it’s such a bad line

[upbeat river]

Better sound quality on self titled

[urban valve]

Paul's Vignette synth solo needs to be longer. Like its just too short!

[granite coral]

I want more screaming in the music. More screaming

[bleak stag]

he could of said something like idk "don't go against me, because i know a thing or 2 about pain and darkness" yk?

[heavy mortar]

he could have said literally anything else

[bleak stag]

yeah

[heavy mortar]

heck he could replace ‘hood’ with ‘asylum’ and it’d work

[woven acorn]

Ofc ofc, that makes sense, I just think that Tyler's ability to pull off the screams (i.e. Goner and Jumpsuit) is incredible and needs to be utilised more 🙏

[heavy mortar]

Agree

[dense garnet]

Take bird sounds out of paladin

[bleak stag]

change the synths in heathens

[abstract narwhal]

Change how Tyler sings in be concerned and remove the feature so the song is not ass anymore :3

[heavy mortar]

remove Heathens altogether

[bleak stag]

i think changing the synths would be enough to make it not mid anymore

[heavy mortar]

I hate to say this but ‘you don’t know the half of the abuse’ gives the same energy as ‘you wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me’

[limpid current]

HDS AMD MESSAGE MAN but more guitar like in Jumpsuit/HDS livestream ver

[dense garnet]

Real 😂

[icy yarrow]

1. Official RaB and NPI release
2. Get rid of the frickin paladin silence

[heavy mortar]

fair

[twin oasis]

in fairly local, the one time before the chorus that doesn’t have the weird choking sound, add the weird choking sound. it sounds incomplete without it

[icy yarrow]

I think you would like the TopxMm version of it

[dense garnet]

There’s literally no reason for the paladin silence fr

[bleak stag]

hmm, makes sense but it was made for a movie tho

[urban valve]

Have you heard the TOPxMM Version? It's way better

[solid escarp]

this is so real actually i cannot take that song seriously

[icy yarrow]

fr

[bleak stag]

yeah, but i don't remember it all that well

[heavy mortar]

yeah, but it feels like they wrote it from an emotional place regardless which just makes those extreme lyrics sound like they’re trying to be edgy

[urban valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNk-xjCISYQ&pp=ygUadHdlbnR5IG9uZSBwaWxvdHMgaGVhdGhlbnM%3D

[solid escarp]

also change message man to that cool ass piano thing from the ritual that went crazy hard

[twin oasis]

“eeuGHAAH IM FAIRLY LOCAL”

my favorite part

[heavy mortar]

Message Man is probably one of the worst cases in Blurryface of the tone not matching the topic at all

[spiral tartan]

For josh to sing in more songs 🙏

[icy yarrow]

3. Release live editions

[bleak stag]

the Heathens/tress version is beautiful that one should be the only version imo

[heavy mortar]

only version of Heathens, agreed. only version of Trees, strongly disagree

Trees as it is is perfect in almost every way

[bleak stag]

not trees only heathens

[heavy mortar]

good good

I agree then

[bleak stag]

put some Screen type piano in there

[ember mortar]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 1!

[heavy mortar]

how many times are you gonna delete and repost this

[bleak stag]

idk the piano in Message man kinda pisses me off

and that like rubbery synth in the back round

it sounds way to weird

[brazen wyvern]

electro guitar for hds and screaming😭😭😭😭😭😭like in the livestream edition but it wouldve been so much better if the original had that

god the versions where people add the nasty electro guitar to hds makes me ascend to heaven

[bleak stag]

longer bass solo in Vingette would be godly

[tired bear]

paladin strait x fairly local went CRAZY so i would make paladin strait w fairly local beat lowkey.

[vivid mantle]

The piano at the end of backslide is amazing! That part should be longer.

[robust forge]

Finally someone said what needed to be said

[worldly quartz]

REAL

[grave forge]

never cook again

[weary gale]

YES

[grave forge]

but yes. silence in paladin

[solid escarp]

nah google the message man ritual it goes crazy

[weary gale]

more tyler screams in clancy

I used to say i hated screaming in music but ive grown to love the occasional jumpscare

Also dont take out the silence in paladin, but put in some cool soft instrumentals with the birds chirping instead

[bleak nova]

officialy release lovely and all rab songs that arent on vessel

[rustic mason]

i would make goner more like truce, i like tylers (exclusively) piano songs

[brazen musk]

i’d change it all to nightcore

[hot leaf]

Lets just get rid of the nonot me its for friend in the end of vignette and add double chorus instead or some new outro, the line is fine as the bridge but as outro it leaves man with bittersweet feeling of corniness in mind

[bleak stag]

ok i will

[dapper cypress]

This

[bleak stag]

the craweds heys are so good

[neon wing]

nick sources are wrong once again they really need some W's soon

[wide dawn]

make oldies station longer

[coral ermine]

this. i need to cry more

[wary grail]

I would've never known that if you hadn't said something. I just went and listened to it and I can hear it very faintly

[wary grail]

You don't like that part?

[marsh aurora]

Addicted to the pen

Don't like that song

Doesn't hit but again its a their older songs so they don't really have it ya know

[pliant breach]

THE AUTOTUNE IN AIR CATCHER ❗❗❗❗

[copper rain]

Publish Regional at Best 💀

[sleek tangle]

so you don't like top pretty much

[copper rain]

Make Snap Back more chaotic, like if everything hit or snapped just a bit more at the end it would be perfect

[long ice]

be concerned would be all tyler

[sleek tangle]

it would be cool if the instrumental were really chaotic but when he says "then i gotta snap back" then everything like chills

like he snapped back

and the ending a complete madness because he couldn't snap back and he's losing his mind

sounds interesting

[hard mauve]

Nick sources are on semi permanent vacation

[stiff spade]

I wish normal hds sounded like live hds.. the guitar is awesome

can't listen to normal hds because the live is so much better

[carmine dragon]

i dont know if its just me, but the highest vocals in backslide chorus are so high it literally squeeks in my head, i'd remove those

[lavish fiber]

Name of semi-automatic to twisted up

[hexed basalt]

Take out auto tune in air catcher. The other version is so much better. Regional at best and No Phun Intended being on Spotify would be awesome too

[brittle radish]

THE FUCKASS BIRDS IN PALADIN STRAIT

and the weird opening sound to routines in the night irks me, so that too.

also prolly the overall sound and structure to never take it. it sounds like a muted version of a song

[still shadow]

lmao someone said the silence in paladin straight … im gonna have to agree

it’s just so quiet for so long !!

i hate to admit it but i skip it at that point ):

[strong ice]

delete rab versions of trees and lovely

[still shadow]

oh noooo why @strong ice

[strong ice]

the autotune is fucking awful in that versions, im sorry

[still shadow]

i’ll have to give them another listen to understand what you’re talking about ! i don’t remember them being like that but maybe i wasn’t listening for it. lovely holds a special place to me so maybe im blind when it comes to criticism for lovely 🥲

[strong ice]

lovely and trees are incredible songs, i'm referring to the regional at best versions

in vessel trees and lovely are peak

[dark flame]

Make a full release of Anathema on Vessel

[still shadow]

im listening right now on spotify. are u talking about the “i will make u believe you are lovely” part where it’s a little… funky sounding ?

[dark flame]

There's a vessel version of Lovely?

[strong ice]

search them on youtube, lovely and trees rab versions are not available on spotify

[strong ice]

yep, in the deluxe edition

[still shadow]

i found them as podcasts, so it’s not officially released under pilots. if u look up rab on spotify you’ll find like fan versions of the album

[dark flame]

Anathema is my favorite RAB only song (not counting Vessel Deluxe)

[still shadow]

such a great song !! i undermined it for too long and now i love it sm !!

[strong ice]

the version that i'm talking about is the one where tyler's voice sounds like a robot, i don't know if the song that you are listening is that one

[still shadow]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2DpMaG6i520WwQ2J2OrbWy?si=7JDgJy4RSuyP_UdURannsg&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A56TOa7cx0sJrGO2hyFa1Pg
does this link work ? it’s the version i was listening to on spotify (:

i hear the robotic voice you’re talking about. i can see how it doesn’t fit with the rest of the song.

[dark flame]

I have a favorite 1-2 songs from each album

[strong ice]

yep, that is the version that i'm talking about, i find it so strange compared to the other one

[fast quartz]

Would make all songs twice as long, so I have more to listen to

[muted canopy]

NO THATS THE BEST PART

[spice mirage]

This might be controversial but the "lean with it rock with it" portion of holding on to you. It just feels so wedged in there and the topic of mainstream songs being heartless was done a lot better in lane boy

Also the build up from entertain my faith is so good it should've led to somthing a bit more interesting 😭

[whole ice]

ever hear the alternate version

the alternate version of air catcher has no autotune

also more instruments

[wary gull]

yeah it kinda kills the momentum
also why'd we have to go from one buildup of something being sung gradually louder a bunch of times to another buildup of something being sung gradually louder a bunch of times

[spice mirage]

That's so true it's like he was stuck with which one to pick and then put both in the song

[wary gull]

the vignette vulture slander in this thread is making me sad

[spice mirage]

I love the vignette vulture too lol

[whole ice]

i understand what you mean but at this point it's too iconic

https://youtu.be/8Y1wHnpPwxM?si=V9pVYUVmAgo3YPZK

also

for those who ever wished air catcher didnt have the robotic filter

enjoy the alternate version

[spice mirage]

Don't get me wrong holding onto you is my favorite song on vessel and was my fave top song for the longest time, very iconic. But not the best way to go with the song lol

Alternate version of air catcher slaps so hard

[marsh aurora]

I didn't say that at all, I just said that song i don't like

[spring elk]

a car, a torch, a death’s little like car beeps throughout the song ruins it for me. turns a perfectly fine song to a song I do not want to listen to because of the car beeps

[spice mirage]

I understand but strongly disagree it makes the song for me but i understand it getting annoying

[dapper quarry]

Okay so, ik this isn’t technically about the song but PUT RAB ON SPOTIFY I NEED TO BE ABLE TO CRY WITHOUT YOUTUBE ADS EVERY TWELVE SECONDS

[weary pine]

Make paladin like. Less on the nose abt the lore?? I really don’t like the “on the ground are banditos fighting as I find Nico” line… idkkkk might be a little controversial

[green saddle]

Add a rap verse to ruby

[snow wasp]

change the outro of morph into an actual drum solo. i understand that josh wouldn’t want to do the same exact drum solo every time he plays it live, but it would’ve made for a better listening experience on the track imo

[gritty violet]

The silence in Paladin and more drum solos everywhere

[snow wasp]

i feel like lavish is one party trick too short. a silly little synth or guitar solo similar to the one at the end of The Oustide would’ve killed somewhere in Lavish

i would also change the end of stressed out to be like the version they did for the bandito tour and icy tour. that was epic

[neon wing]

should have been the album version!!!!

[vapid cedar]

Gods, this should've been the official version IT'S SO FUCKING GOOD GRAAAAAAAAA

[sleek tangle]

you can go to archive org web search regional at best then download it and listen to it with the local file options of spotify :)

[steel patio]

The original version of Doubt that Tyler showed in the Vessel anniversary stream should have been the version that made it on the album. The beat drop in the last chorus was AMAZING

[sleek tangle]

specifically that web not youtube so you can have it in better quality, but if you don't mind only 320kbps then you can download it with those websites like yt to mp3 converter

[fleet wasp]

search up air catcher alternate version, that one has no autotune and has some extra instruments that sound cool!

[copper rain]

No bounce man slander

[atomic willow]

i wish snapback was different/ came out different as a song.. i feel like backslide and snapback are sisters and we could have gotten a different song other than two very similar songs for clancy ...

[copper rain]

to replace verse 1 in vessel's ode to sleep with the one from rab. I am obsessed with the way tyler said "up", "feel my soul start leaving- leaving", and "like an old man's hair receeding- ceeding"

[magic cape]

I would fucking TRANSFORM snap back

[quartz basalt]

honestly dont know if i would care enough about the song to fix it, but at least the very end of doubt. dont like it

[quartz basalt]

agree so much omg

actually i'd just wish tyler could rerecord the ode to sleep on rab because i like it so much better

but like keep the styling the same

just with a more modern tyler voice

[mint condor]

that's the good part

why do you think we like jumpsuit?

[wheat jewel]

air catcher autotune on bridge

remove it

[fleet wasp]

listen to the alternate version

it has no autotune

[sick yacht]

that one jar of hearts cover w o autotune...like tyler pls

[solemn bramble]

nooo that’s so nostalgic tho :(( always makes me happy when i hear that lmao

[solemn bramble]

real oops

[echo swallow]

oldies station pre chorus and verses are just not it. it’s my fav on the album but it seems so basic considered that the bridge is so mind boggling

[devout steppe]

this might be a very basic answer, but i genuinely wouldn't change a thing. i think that tyler and josh know exactly what they're doing and they made each song perfect exactly the way it is!

[astral zealot]

for some reason the way tyler says the lines “two fighter jets… ejection seats” in at the risk kinda bothers me, and also the feng shui line in no chances. i don’t know why, but it just does
also wish lane boy sounded more ska now. i like the live version instrumental better than the actual version

[copper rain]

Honestly, I agree. They don’t have very many songs where I’m mad they aren’t longer or something lol. They’re always perfect

[sleek tangle]

yeah i feel the same

the only thing i would change literally doesn't bother me whatsoever

that being how some stuff rab's version of ode to sleep got removed by the rerecord on vessel, i wish i would've seen some minimal stuff they decided to remove, but again i literally don't complain it's a perfect song

[hot crag]

this message alone convinced me to listen to ode to sleep rab and now i hate the vessel version

(not really hate but like yeah i listened back to the vessel version again and stopped listening halfway through which i've never done for ode to sleep)

so i agree

[sweet panther]

Genuinely thought this message was the complete answer and was very confused

“What would you change in a tøp song?”

“THE FUCKING”

[atomic vigil]

LMAOOOO

the craving (𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 version)

[sweet panther]

I hope that I can satiate the FUCKING

I’m on the FUCKING in the summer heat

Just don’t believe the FUCKING

you’re the FUCKING
oh no

I am on the FUCKING and Go

[atomic vigil]

i dont believe the FUCKING

[atomic vigil]

53 upvotes bruh this did numbers

[atomic vigil]

BRAH

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT

[noble quarry]

I'd add a bridge and third chorus to ATROFD

[viscid crest]

Saturday, I can't stand the random audio cut out towards the end of it tbh

[uncut leaf]

It needs bridge

[plucky pagoda]

I would add more screams generally || or I would redo/delete the hype ||

[karmic willow]

as a relient k fan, all you paladin silence haters are weak

we have SEVERAL minutes of silence🤓

[sweet panther]

Probably would happen live, but a scream in Navigating would fit really well

[young zealot]

The birds in Paladin Strait. The mv version of the song is better. Or at the very least offer up both versions on streaming services.

[young zealot]

Reliant K ftw! Such an underrated Ohio band.

[royal stratus]

I think I would change the fucking weird as sound in Fairly Local, it irritates me so much

[orchid gate]

The silence in paladin strait hands down

[hallow pine]

i want him to say navigating not in the way that he does

IT ANNOYS ME A LITTLE

[viscid arrow]

yeah me too!

[worthy perch]

it's weird how most are taking about Clancy songs but are forgetting the album people criticized the most.

A. k. a: their second most underrated album
A. k. a: Scaled and icy
A. k. a: Scaled back and isolated
A. k. a: Clancy is dead (Or not?)

I would love never take it to have a style more similar to Next Semester and Navigating

An outright punk song speaking about how the system is selling you lies by twenty one pilots

[sleek tangle]

i still prefer the vessel version because it's overall better produced, but those small details like the "but I'll tell eeeeeeeeeMMMMMMM..." of the rab's version i love it! and don't know why they decided to remove it

that's the only thing i would change from a top song

[wheat jewel]

ik the alternate version but i dont like how its recorded and its not the actual version

[sudden nest]

I think snapback is a little too mellow. Love the lyrics but production is kinda lacking imo

[fiery marsh]

Bro didnt believe the hype

[sacred jewel]

Rab ode to sleep>>>>> vessel ode to sleep

[sleek tangle]

it's not best due to the quality but it does have some stuff that are really cool but they decided to remove it for some reason

[plain mason]

this would be a hot take prob but auto-tune to Semi-Automatic would go hard

[pseudo juniper]

Remove ode to sleep on vessel and make it the rab version

[karmic willow]

which sound?

[crystal saffron]

The "silence" in The Judge in the beginning sounds like an airplane engine.... All My Sons reference? 🤷

I'd love to hear a re-record of Isle Of Flightless Birds. I love that song (if you can't tell) the vocals are fine but the music sounds so digital and video gamey. I kind of thought if it went with a concept video where we humans were all like little Sims the gods can play with it kind of makes sense but I think it just needs re-produced. The piano in it is great though.

[light wing]

I would have every song have an into beat and outro beat just to piss the people who complain about them off /s
But being fr I would make the "faith" ib entertain my faith more understandable so that people under stand it's faith and not fae

[sleek tangle]

you're saying iofb is great but it was released in a bad period because of the lack of a music video to complement the music of the song and the vibe that it portrays?

[alpine rock]

I would change Kitchen sink and the fact that I can't listen to it on iTunes

[karmic willow]

the fae is so real😂 id do the same with trapdoor so it’s very clear he’s saying blatant and not bleeding

[hot crag]

"lalalalalallalalalalalala"

[bronze escarp]

nope everything is perfect

[devout steppe]

that's what i said too!!!

also i just noticed your display name omg

[hushed swift]

I'm very sorry but I'd remove Jocef's verse and chorus in be concerned, Tyler's parts are so poetic and I just. I want to skip it when I hear the 'no music.' :((
And they're about such different things too?? it feels so out of place-

[karmic willow]

aw dam
i love the lyrics of that verse, even tho it is indeed vastly different to tyler’s parts

[hushed swift]

I do think it's a good verse, but, it feels like it should be somewhere else? Idk, it feels odd to have such a existential, self-loathing song suddenly talk about the concept of making and relating to songs? It's an interesting topic that I think should be talked about, but, when put in contrast with "You are the pearl, I am the swine" it feels silly, and it deserves something other than that I feel

but I guess it's good to have it there so that Be Concerned doesn't go too far off the rails into self-loathing, haha

anyways, lots of yapping I like be concerned

[sleek tangle]

Tyler's way of making lyrics are way different than jocef, it's more metaphorical, more poetic, migraine is the best example, so yeah the jocef's verse has a bunch of problems, the rhymes are like "why?" like: "anything / listening" (? meanwhile Tyler's are creative for example "time / fine / swine" it's really good though

also i don't think i want when people put names of other persons in a song it's not something that i like to see in a music because one won't understand that verse because it's about someone they don't know about and idk it's overall weird, tyler the only names he say are zack and josh (and blurryface/nico but that's part of his own story and not like something external)

...anyways too much yapping

overall it's a really mid song i'm sorry if people like it but it's like, yeah the message is whatever though very deep, jocef's verse ruins the song and tyler's verses are good but compared to others on the same record it's not his best song i'm afraid nxksndn

[hushed swift]

yeah, I get that! And you're right about the different styles of lyrics and rhyming, that's the main thing I caught on to as well

[rare meteor]

that annoying break in saturday

[cerulean meadow]

the heavy breathing during guns for hands' rap verse

[astral zealot]

i like the hype alt mix better than the original one
a lotta people like the berlin version too- i haven’t listened to it personally but you could give those a listen if you still like the song

[whole lake]

“ITS NOT ME ITS FOR A FRIEND NO ITS NOT ME ITS FOR A FRIEND D E N I AL🤮🤮🤮🤮”

Also the whole sleeping next to a concealed weapons and the night terrors are not something to take lightly fight me thing

Like what a weird forward way to bring that up and then have it switch back like that?? Idk I’m just used to the more subtle blows

[trim halo]

Shorten the silence in Paladin or redo SnapBack

[trim halo]

I prefer the live version with Dr. Blumhouse honestly.

[proven wolf]

EXTENDED VERSION OF IOFB

[astral zealot]

i already gave my answer but i wish tyler screamed midwest indigo at the end of midwest indigo

[north shale]

WAIT HUH

Ngl i always skip the last 30 something seconds of message man. Its a great song, probably my favorite on the Blurryface album, but the ending just drags on imo

[sleek tangle]

if it has something you don't like then i doubt it's your favourite off of blurryface

tbh i love message man i consider it the most underrated on the album

[north shale]

Other than the extra music at the end of Message Man its a perfect song. All you have to do is skip right at the little pause before the last bit and its like that part doesnt even exist. I agree it is an extremely underrated song

[sleek tangle]

nice in that case i take back what I said, i'm glad people out there give it the spotlight it desserves! but also goner, lane boy and fairly local are also of my favourites c:

[pulsar imp]

Honestly there isn’t much I’d change on most of their discography its all pretty well done to be fair :3

The only one I can think of is having Tyler scream at the end of the studio version of HDS

Also not part of my answer, just thought’d I point out the autotune on some of their earlier songs wasn’t the greatest (Air Catcher/ Trees / Lovely, all of which having alternate and studio versions solve that problem miraculously lol)

[sleek tangle]

frfr

[copper rain]

Kitchen sink just needs Clancy style production. Or it could just be on Spotify lmfao

[onyx gale]

I would keep the first bridge of the RAB version of ‘Ode to Sleep’ in the Vessel one

[fresh yoke]

i would change the bridge on air catcher to sound like the alt version

no vococoding/autotune/whatever just pure VOCALS

one of the best Tyler Joseph Vocal Moments and it's not even on the official recording 🙄

and if u don't know what i mean then skip to like 2:40 on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y1wHnpPwxM

[light wing]

They should release this as a separate single instead of replacing it

[modest lion]

ADD SWEAR WORDS

[light wing]

Bruh

[sleek tangle]

i agree

[sleek tangle]

they explained why they don't do that

besides it's not necessary why do people need to swear on their songs 😭

[modest lion]

not like us
kill shot
rap devil
like that
i can listen to so many more 💀

[light wing]

That doesn't make the song better

Besides

It's cringe to think that cursing makes your song better

Middle/high school logic

[sleek tangle]

do people think they're cool by cursing 💀

[light wing]

Usually it attracts teens to their songs and boosts their streams from what I know

Sadly

[copper rain]

And fucking overcompensate

[solemn gate]

make levitate longer

[sweet panther]

Somebody stole my car radio and now I just in silence (FUCK!)

[sleek tangle]

if they would've made it with swears it probably would've been something like "Now I just fucking sit in silence"

that sounds soooo bad cbkskdxk 😭

[candid prairie]

bro if the slight cuts could be taken out of saturday that would be great

[urban spire]

I would change nothing

[light wing]

I wouldn't change anything but

I would add the cut stuff and unmade/edits

Make then all avaliable on spotify

Every live they've done

Every unmade song

Every demo

Everything

[tardy idol]

redo the mix and master on anathema to be more cohesive with the rest of the album

[tender shell]

Fire🔥 🔥

First thing that comes to mind, is update the production to Clear cause it's a great song but kinda eh sonically

And Honestly I want to see a remastered self-titled album so bad with an updated sound
I love the album as is but I want to see the full potential

[copper rain]

I would only want and ask for a re-record on self-titled & RAB.

[sleek tangle]

who would need to have EVERYTHING on spotify...

people are insane these days...

[neon compass]

I'd give Goner more lyrics

it feels repetitive but it has such a unique cadence to it

I would work so well with more lyrics

[fresh yoke]

SO TRUE ON CLEAR
need to see that song get the same treatment as the vessel bonus tracks that were originally rab

[light wing]

I got 135 downloaded track files

[pastel obsidian]

Give Lavish more verses

[light wing]

Lavish (proctologists version)

[whole lake]

I skip it EVERYTIME

[fresh yoke]

nah

i adore snap back

[sleek tangle]

yo all the potential that songs like iofb, taxi cab or air catcher have if they were remade now with more experience! it's kind of exciting

imagine air catcher made nowadays, an even better version of air catcher alt mix :)

[dull heath]

PALADIN STRAIT

[charred fable]

Take the creepy whispering out of the craving (Jenna’s) so my ears aren’t ringing every time that song starts

[sleek tangle]

it's barely audible lol

[charred fable]

Lmfao when I have vignette blaring at the top of its volume and then I hear jenna raping my ears i immediately skip

[sleek tangle]

you have a valid reason to have the craving jenna's version the lowest in your ranking in case it is the weakest in your opinion xkkdnd

for me it's the weakest yeah

[torn oar]

Ngl I skip the craving a lot when I’m listening to Clancy 😓

It’s a great song tho

[sleek tangle]

it's the weakest definitely, it's not a bad song by any means, it's just that the rest are great, and this one is a really personal song for tyler, not everyone relates that much (me for example) and yeah, there's also the single version which is more catchy, it's the version for us basically

[torn oar]

Fr

[charred fable]

Yeah it just doesn’t really flow with the rest of the album. The hype from overcompensate to vignette is insane, all of the songs are placed perfectly. But then you get to the craving and i get it’s supposed to be like a breather but it just ruins the momentum. Lavish coming after vignette maybe would ruin the momentum too but I don’t think it would as much if navigating comes next. IMO the album order SHOULDVE been

Overcompensate
Next semester
Backslide
Midwest indigo
Routines in the night
Vignette
Lavish
Navigating
The craving
Snap back
Oldies station
At the risk
Paladin

I feel like the craving should be placed with oldies and snap back

[torn oar]

Bro that is a good idea

[charred fable]

Imagine the craving then snap back then oldies station dude the feels would be high

Plus you get to keep most of the songs in their placements. Like snap back NEEDS to be at 10, at the risk NEEDS to be right before Paladin like it’s almost so perfect

Imagine no breather besides lavish from overcompensate to navigating

[torn oar]

Bro ngl paladin sounds
So much better after hearing it a lot in my opinion and after the music video

[charred fable]

100% agree I think Paladin is the best closer they’ve ever done

[torn oar]

Like it should be In a moive

[charred fable]

It’s got everything. It reminds me of redecorate in that way where it’s the sad melancholy final track but it’s got the up tempo vibe to it too unlike something like leave the city or truce where it just makes you cry

[charred fable]

DUUUUDE imagine an entire dema centered movie where the score is just instrumentals of tøp songs. The final scene is the Paladin instrumental

[sleek tangle]

it works yeah, though usually the love song is around the middle of the albums, except from tear in my heart

[sleek tangle]

forgot to reply

[copper rain]

I’d take the autotune out of Doubt I hate that song because of that

[torn oar]

Frrr or the song plays in the credits

[sleek tangle]

MAN THAT'S A SICK IDEA WTF I'M SOLD

[devout steppe]

tøp instrumentals just hit different

[solar copper]

I’d probably get Mutemath in on more Blurryface songs the EP goes hard

[north oyster]

I’d make it say “Can you save my heavy dirty soul from me,” which is what I originally thought the lyric was and I think hits harder.

I had another one but I don’t remember atm.

[sleek tangle]

yeahhhh it sounds as if his soul were really heavy because of mental struggles and really dirty because he's y'know emotional imperfect, sinner...

so it's like he's saying to god or a friend or whoever "can you save MY own soul from me, from myself" like "i'm the problem, the reason my soul is heavy and dirty", i don't know i'm terrible at explaining shit xjskfnkd

[north oyster]

Yeah exactly. I thought “for me” was a missed opportunity.

[merry dawn]

i dont like the end of neon gravestones it sounds slam poetry

[earnest thorn]

Incorrect

[earnest thorn]

I’ve anyways thought it should’ve been Oldies straight to Paladin

[charred fable]

Nahhh I think at the risk is great before paladin, one of the best choices

[placid bluff]

Take away the line "your grandpa died when you when nine" in th3 Pantaloon

[earnest thorn]

...or rewrite a lot of the lyrics in pantaloon 🫠

I LOVE st so so much but i cant keep defending it

[unborn urchin]

Delete Paladin Silence and Extend The Final Of Paladin

[runic inlet]

Noooo that hits home 😔

[placid bluff]

Exactly the point..

[runic inlet]

Oh 😭 nvm lmao..I thought you meant it in saying it was bad

Mb

[uncut moss]

The ones where he screms. Sometimes it's fine but others it kinda kills the vibe

[dreamy sail]

what’s wrong with the hood line

oh nvm i just realized that was so long ago 😭😭

[earnest thorn]

No don’t you DARE

[uncut moss]

I'm just being honest

[earnest thorn]

Which ones don’t you like?

[cinder tendon]

Oldies station, my mom keeps singing this one but instead of you’ve got nothin’ in the tank, she’s singing you’ve got nothin’ in your brain 🤣 and now i catch myself saying brain instead of tank. It doesn’t really make sense but 🫣😂

[mighty granite]

Any word other than slits in before you start your day. Absolutely off putting and makes me cringe when I hear the phrase open your slits 😨

[tender shell]

For me it makes the song a bit more raw lyrically
But im still not the biggest fan of the usage

[uncut moss]

like the "i just might become someone" in house of gold or the "Now i just sit in silence" in Car Radio is good because it emphasizes the point but in ones like Holding on to you, idk if it just the live versions, as well as in migrane but im not the biggest fan

[upper ermine]

None of them

[hard hinge]

Very very late but I think Lane Boy sort of "Radio edit" where the song cuts before the big music part could have been as successful as Stressed Out.

[light wing]

The big music part?

[hard hinge]

Sorry that was quite unclear. After 2:15 (though you'd say, that makes the song quite short)

[light wing]

Is that the instrumental bit?

[hard hinge]

Yes. I love that part and it makes a lot of sense in the clip, but I think more people would have liked it with an edit (kinda same battle with PS silence)

[light wing]

I mean there's already a radio edit but it cuts the rap part out and replaces it with instrumental

Well ig that the TV track nevermind

[forest thicket]

it's fine

[light wing]

That was stuck in my head while I was showering yesterday. Great song

[sleek tangle]

oh yess, it's also really underrated, maybe it's not their best but it is a song i relate to a lot

[light wing]

I agree 100%

[vocal kayak]

Remove zach joseph’s part from Kitchen sink..

The words are good but the rapping bothers me

[light wing]

You monster

[forest thicket]

remove the feature period

[forest thicket]

Look at the lyrics to memorise it

[copper rain]

I know this question is long dead, but add 5 more minutes to pet cheetah

[cinder tendon]

!