Digital Remains Puzzle

[exotic quiver]

24, 112, 96

not a whole lot here

have an idea, probably nothing though

[real plaza]

also, did you try the line from the seizing thing with the vertical line on 67?

[real plaza]

darn i was hoping for some crossed out letters or something

[exotic quiver]

I think someone had mentioned that these two should line up on Josh's arm.
The arm is faintly seen in is face... I'll see if I can get this

it's not lining up, but I'm trying to figure out if anything can be sitting right in this spot once it is lined up:

[real plaza]

i still want to know whats going on in the grass here

[lucid valley]

There are deef rabbit holes in the grass, beware!

[exotic quiver]

Can someone find this arm for me? (or tree or something)

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 7!

[real plaza]

does anyone know where this was taken? bowery ballroom maybe?

[lucid valley]

Like Emer said: 110

[exotic quiver]

yeah still don't see it

[lucid valley]

The two lines are the same: left contour of his arm

[exotic quiver]

I might be trying the wrong spot

it just seems like josh has too much definition in that picture (dudes jacked man! lol)

[lucid valley]

I’m not sure if it’s not only a stain/grunge overlay

You can see it at the top with more contrast

[real plaza]

i thought i had it with the guitar case

but i don't think it lines up... i tried it flipped horizontal and its so close

[exotic quiver]

it's been puzzling me for a while. I see a long skinny arm all the way through the image. What looks like a 'bracelet' / tyler's tatto at the top along the wrist.

they did a good job messing with this one

[real plaza]

i don't think it's an arm

the proportions are off...

this looks like josh's collar

[exotic quiver]

I think that goes to his face right above it

[real plaza]

i have an obsession with tylers shoulder tape... it's perfectly symmetrical everywhere except here, and the logo lines up

[leaden temple]

Y'all are cooking!

I'm at work so can't help more but I wish I could!

[neon pebble]

Seeing this converted… I kind of see the outline of a bishop looking up to the light 🫥

[sacred sigil]

Me! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19FsGNffOoPS8oXDvY6C5wa0QhSaoiRzKJbGuk47xqrQ/edit

[leaden temple]

OMG I LOVE YOU 🫶

[sacred sigil]

Yes

[leaden temple]

Hey all looking at Scaled and Icy and I'm 99% sure there is a secret message hidden in the scales on the inside cover... did anyone ever figure this out

Flipped it upside down.... definitely seeing a Y and 5

Right side up I'm also finding letters.... does anyone see anything I'm missing

Totally meant to post this in theories not DR oops

[leaden temple]

Good morning friends! Has anyone found anything new?

[leaden temple]

GUYS

[real plaza]

I was looking at the scales… I don’t really see anything, except some of them look like paths? Idk

[lucid valley]

Guys, I was busy elsewhere in 2020 and unfortunately not involved in the LOC ARG. But all the files are archived online and I looked at everything very carefully afterwards. Some of the puzzles were really tricky and there were ciphers like Railfence and Solfa.

With that in mind, I think it's possible that it's harder than we initially thought (my level of concerns 😉
I really can't let go of DR and still suspect they left us something. And I keep coming up with new approaches. But at the moment I'm so busy at work that I can't fully pursue these approaches.
I therefore hope that one of you can take on this task.

We know that there are 2 doubles and a lot more pretty similar pages.
What if the doubles were the hint to identify all pages which could be twins? Like in the game MEMORY (Digital Remains!). Ty also mentioned the “FLASHBACK” before the final fight.
If you then take all these page numbers next to each other and convert them to letters, maybe there will form a sentence vertically…
Example:
the two tower pages, the two circled Clancy pages etc. pp.
14-92 A D I B
59-90 E I I O
From here there are oc many other ideas possible.
What do you think?

[lucid valley]

Maybe someone could create a collaborative google sheet.
Additional thoughts:

• if we decode the digits one by one there are only the letters A to I possible. That could mean we sometimes have to see which combination makes more sense (eg 19 = AI or S)
• in purely mathematical terms, 60 pairs are possible (disregarding the title) and maybe we don’t need all
• the occurrence of the zero could mean we must consider hex codes (if we don’t translate it to the letter O)
• we of course don’t know yet if we must arrange the pairs with ascending numbers
• maybe we also need anagrams later in the hunt
• It will certainly often be difficult to agree on what can really be categorised as a couple. That's why I find it the easiest way to use a spreadsheet with many columns (I hate spreadsheets lol), if there isn’t a better solution.

[real plaza]

I looked through the LOC levels too, although I only read the wiki summary. I’m super intrigued by the Solfa cipher. And I would love to see the archived files.

I was thinking about how you tried different grids, and I was wondering if you tried different number orders for the layout? For example, naturally we would probably start left to right (1-11 in the first row). I’m curious if you tried different ways

[lucid valley]

LOC Archive: https://github.com/lvlcnrn/lvlcnrnusb/tree/master

[lucid valley]

But what do you think of the MEMORY PUZZLE?

[real plaza]

Oh yes I am into that

But I have to read it slower to fully understand what you are thinking lol

[lucid valley]

It’s the first time for me that there is a clear connection to DR content

[lucid valley]

Oh sorry, I thought it was understandable

[real plaza]

no it is

i have to read things twice to get it, that's all lol

i wonder if we could consider the lyric pages obvious pairs?

[lucid valley]

Dunno, and then which ones? We should start with the most obvious ones. As I said, maybe we don’t need all of them (only 11, 14 or 25 😉

If only I had the time!! I would reverse engineer the process like expecting an URL translate .com to numbers etc.

[lucid valley]

Doesn't it look like a memory game spread out on the table?

[real plaza]

Yeah totally

I’ll take some time tonight if the kids aren’t up late haha

[exotic quiver]

Here’s a silly idea, take all photos of Josh (or Tyler) and order them based on the direction he is facing.

[leaden temple]

You might be onto something

[real plaza]

A clue that we are looking for pairs is from the PS teaser - we needed 2 pairs for the url and password, so will more pairs get us somewhere??

Or another thought… maybe it’s not just pairs but “groups” like how more than 2 images fit together… idk I’m thinking out loud

[lucid valley]

Which was most likely not intentional, but was used by them AFTER the puzzlers got to that point.
Also: To stay with the MEMORY game, it probably makes the most sense to find pairs first. Otherwise it is too overloaded right from the start. We can always expand if necessary.

I will start a new thread so we can concentrate there. I also invited the guys from the Code Cracking server and they wanna start a VC Thursday or Friday to dive in.

[exotic quiver]

@lucid valley Not seeing your forum, so I'll post some stuff here for your memory theory.

When it comes to pairs, the lyrics have pairs. Some songs have more than just 2 pages, but sticking with the pattern of 1 page in between, you have these:

30-32: Next Semester
44-46: Backslide
52-54: Midwest Indigo
68-70: Vignette
98-100: Oldies Station

numbers in between would be:
31, 45, 53, 69, 99
4,9,8,15,18
4,9,8,6,9

One thing to note
19-21: These aren't the same song, but are in a similar pattern (Overcompensate and Backslide)

31 - Next Semester
45 - Overcompensate/Backslide
53 - Midwest Indigo
66 - Vignette
99 - Oldies Station

and each one, aside from 45 overcompensate/backslide, is an image from the MV

I'm now curious about this combo of songs: overcompensate/backslide

[lucid valley]

Thnx dude, didn’t have the time yet.
It will get tough to decide what common category the pairs should follow besides obvious visual ones. So „same song“ is a potential category but I don’t know

[exotic quiver]

20 - Overcompensate/Backslide - has to be related

[lucid valley]

Do you have the time/skills to set up a collaborative tool like google sheets for us to work in?

[exotic quiver]

not sure what you're looking for but here is a public google sheet doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-dQizIbPdJZ9QwFMqJknYttSgUNjBS3m3AA7pDjquU/edit?usp=sharing

[real plaza]

I think that’s a good idea, to start with obvious ones that overlap, like the lyrics pages

If we see other patterns emerging we can always go back

[leaden temple]

All 5 of these are from the mvs.

[leaden temple]

It could have just been production crew but if you darken the image it's obvious there are people in the seats on the side where the light is coming in

[real plaza]

It seems to me he wrote lyrically as one song, but turned it into two later... but it is interesting how the lyrics to overcompensate changed so much

[exotic quiver]

yeah I remember someone finding that when we were going nuts with the puzzle.

[real plaza]

RITN and Drag Path are also from the same page

63-65

[real plaza]

found something

i can try to share with a screenshot...

these are the lyrics pages. the only pair that doesnt follow the pattern is 19-21 (overcomp/BS)

please feel free to check my math

also, worth noting ATROFD is not 2 pages apart, but 3

[lucid valley]

made a forum for the MEMORY puzzle: https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1268250505872805958

[exotic quiver]

Awesome. Yeah it seems like they add the lyric pages with First Lyric Page, Music Video from Video, Second Lyric Page.

[real plaza]

its not legit, i'm so sorry 😫

and i had a typo

come join us in https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1268250505872805958

[rare cairn]

@real plaza overcomp/BS does follow the pattern - 19+21 = 40, not 30

Btw this is not a special pattern, the numbers will always be reduced down to the same single number, no matter how you add them together (19 + 21 or 1 + 9 + 2 + 1), and this will happen for any sequence of numbers, not just these ones

Ahhhh sorry I see the thread in the memory puzzle now, my bad!

[real plaza]

Yeah I realized that, I was so bummed I thought I had found something cool

[rare cairn]

I get it! I've been really deep into the weird image filenames on the TOP homepage and I keep thinking I found something just to learn that it's nothing :/

[tacit topaz]

I completely agree! Knowing what they decoded in LOC days, there's a huge possibility we just haven't found the answer yet. And it also gives validity to a LOT of theories, knowing it's not out of the realm of possibility!

[tacit topaz]

Wait YES! and with the duplicates ‼️

[hollow plover]

It lets me highlight a bit on these pages, this is what it is for the first page lol

‹OZDTO
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not of may cal -and
eChte efnd yad tin dnoet, a
sked
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The quate 3.
Clancy
" r pr e
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Pauprt
EVIDENCE O
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Kinda interesting

[lucid valley]

OCR is still bad on images like this

[hollow plover]

What’s ocr

[lucid valley]

Optical Character Recognition

[hollow plover]

Ahh ok

Ok…..uh this is what it gave me 💀 e
最吉 一合最 老一的一F

[gilded hemlock]

In spanish: "The most fortunate" "The oldest"

[hollow plover]

Oh wait it actually translates to something

That’s cool

[hollow plover]

Neddddd

[gilded hemlock]

That was cool indeed, i just got here so idk how you got that haha

It's crazy how many little secrets and easter eggs were in DR

[hollow plover]

I was just highlighting random DR pages and seeing what the thing gave me lol

That came from the death eaters text 💀 idk how but yeah lol

[gilded hemlock]

Super coincidence haha

[hollow plover]

This is the cover page

[gilded hemlock]

Ohh?

[steel berry]

if we're talking doubles, maybe there's something in those pictures that were the same filesize after all?

[leaden temple]

That's a good idea... I didn't think about that

[leaden temple]

HOW ARE YOU DOING THAT? I ALSO TRIED OPENING DR ON MY LAPTOP AND THE FILE IS ZIPPED AND I CANT EXTRACT IT FOR SOME REASON 😭

[hollow plover]

Idk 💀 I just held down on the page and it started highilting things lol

I’m on mobile

[earnest grove]

It's just finding random shapes that look like certain letters/words/characters

[hollow plover]

Yeah

[final kernel]

do we know what the thing on the side is yety

[neon pebble]

I’m on my mobile on DR, and when I zoom into page 11 it pixelates… and it makes an interesting pattern. When I zoom into the page above as you see, it doesn’t do that. 🤔

[real plaza]

Doesn’t it look like Josh’s Van Gogh arm?

[final kernel]

no

its too specifically striped

i think?

it looked too straight at first hang on

yeah theres like

[real plaza]

When I look at the close up I think you’re right

[final kernel]

idk its not a perfect match

[real plaza]

Bummer, no wonder I could never find a matching arm

[real plaza]

Yeah not even close 😅

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 9!

[real plaza]

This one bothers me for so many reasons, I think it’s the weirdest photo

And it’s number 11^2

[timber marten]

i really can't make much of the blur on the edge of the image but i did find another angle on his tattoo

[real plaza]

The blue stripes are like definitely stripes when you look closely at the photo… maybe it’s a shirt? It does still look like someone’s shoulder/arm to me

[sacred sigil]

I agree it definitely looks like stripes and not Josh’s tattoos. But now that I’m really looking, I’m not sure it’s an arm. Look at the bottom. I originally thought that was a hand but now I’m not so sure. The shape isn’t right.

The stuff Tyler is coming up out looks like either like wood shavings or maybe some kind of hay or straw to me. It makes me think of a hayloft in a barn. It might have a hole in the floor that climb up through using a ladder.

Anyway maybe that shape is some kind of animal or piece of furniture? If it’s wood shavings maybe there’s a clue in the craving single ver mv?

Hm just rewatched and I don’t see anything.

[real plaza]

The stuff does look like woods shavings, and also reminds me of that crinkly paper packing material

The more I zoom in the less it even looks like a thing… like, it looks like it’s actually behind whatever the black is, if that makes sense?

[real plaza]

I swear I see a dog’s face

[graceful solar]

Nope i see a dog 2

[wintry sedge]

It kinda looks like jim

[leaden temple]

It appears to be Jishua's arm

[leaden temple]

Josh has a tattoo of Jim on his left arm

[timber marten]

lol why did i think "schrodinger's arm"
since there's indecision about this 💀

[leaden temple]

Lmaoooo accurate

[final kernel]

how

its just the way it pixelated

it doesn't quite match with his arm

[real plaza]

Idk sometimes I see it sometimes not, it’s definitely not his arm

[real plaza]

I think it’s the PS video, someone pointed out once that it looks like Clancy coming out of the manhole in Dema and I just watched it and there is some of that wood shred stuff on the ground at that moment. I had to watch at .25 speed to be sure lol

[leaden temple]

To me it looks like something we haven't seen yet...

[real plaza]

I think you’re right, but also in the mv when he’s coming out the manhole the shot is from the side. We don’t see it face on like the photo

[final kernel]

it reminds me of dr seuss lol

it looks like a weird thing he'd draw

[real plaza]

Yeah the cat in the hat. Mystery solved

[lucid valley]

Yeah that was me. The grass/dirt looks exactly like the one in the video.
And they can just make a photo while shooting the video. It has not to be a still frame.

[real plaza]

The black background looks like a curtain

[leaden temple]

It looks like hay to me... like he's climbing out of it?

[hearty imp]

To me it kinda looked like the packaging with boxes. Like those crates they use in movies like Indiana Jones.

[neon pebble]

I’m thinking there’s a full image that will come out when we get the ending to Paladin strait

[neon pebble]

I think so too, it makes me think he jumped down into the hay… from the tower. Teaser image imo

[leaden temple]

YESSSS I THINK THIS MIGHT END WITH CLANCY FALLING THROUGH A TRAP DOOR

[sacred sigil]

That makes so much sense actually

[rotund folio]

im not quite up to date but is there any put-together (at least as much as we know) puzzle? if there isn't then i don't really know if this is accomplishing much...

the original board got flooded with trollers so it's probably not the answer but lmk if otherwise

[real plaza]

can we make tyler's next semester shirt match the cat in the hat?

also are there any theories about what 73 is?

[lucid valley]

Do we already know what these graphics mean in the bottom right corner of page 26?

It’s the red collage. I enhanced the contrast

[lucid valley]

First I saw a car left and a person on the right, but considering the distortion pattern it now seems to me the left side is doubled and the right is just a flame

[candid night]

I've been playing with 73 and 75, I thought it looked like tyler's face from 75 in 73
I tried overlaying them - they kinda fit - or just looks cool....

[lucid valley]

Cool observation!

Still new discoveries:

#1251469273495502959 message

[candid night]

Thank you - You've made loadsa cool observations

Gotta go eat

[lucid valley]

Also: did someone compare the journal and DR and which images are in both?

[real plaza]

I thought I posted this here but guess not... I was looking for pairs, and I was messing with number 120 (the all red image) and it reminded me of those kids decoder puzzles, where you put the red plastic over a picture and you see secret messages.

This also reminds me of that ☝️

[real plaza]

I think I saw someone in reddit did that maybe?

[real plaza]

found something guys. hopefully i can show it with screenshots

120 and 109 have some dots that line up

so here we have 120 in "difference" mode (idk, in figma it's one of the image options) and 109 in "hard light" mode. i found these easiest to spot the dots

zoomed in, there are the dots, if i move 120 to cover 109 they line up perfect

[lucid valley]

Haha, that’s what I did in DR Memory. These two go together (for me)

Cool that you found it also!!

[neon pebble]

The images in the cd booklet are slightly different and you can see more of the image for Paladin strait. I think it’s interesting these songs are used for these pictures as well.

[hollow plover]

I’m so sad my cd didn’t have this 😭😭

[jaunty thorn]

Okay. I wanna pitch in with the digital remains more right now

[magic osprey]

your cd had no booklet?

it's on the right most flap

[hollow plover]

Nope 😭

[magic osprey]

how

[hollow plover]

Idk ))):

[magic osprey]

did you check in the right flap

[hollow plover]

Yeah

[magic osprey]

weird

[jaunty thorn]

Firstly, I have a few questions- i’ve never attended a show before, but i’m willing to bet that they will play clips of the digital remains

[hollow plover]

That’s a good thought I bet that could happen

[jaunty thorn]

like that honestly might be what ends up cracking this

or like- what if the placement of the |-/ in the DR is relevant to the screens in the show

Do they play clips like that at shows?

I’ve seen clips like that

[hollow plover]

I have a question if you wouldn’t mind, do you think you could send me a picture of the front and back of the case I just want to see something

[jaunty thorn]

like hypothetically with this one - if a screen shows the logo on that side looking like that - we use this to reference

or possibly seeing an extended vision of this shot

[magic osprey]

can't do that rn, it's 1 am, sorry

[hollow plover]

That’s alright dw

[magic osprey]

it's the standard cover with the blurryface and stuff

they should've called this album inferno

or maybe the next album

dema burns down

[hollow plover]

My cd came in the red box set.. that might be why it doesn’t have a booklet but that’s kinda lame.. ):

I didn’t know it actually had a booklet at all

Until now

[viscid lance]

Y’all I just got back on DC and reading this thread took 6 hours 😂 you’re amazing for figuring out even the smallest details in this DR. s/o to everyone for the immense work ❤️

[neon pebble]

I can try and get pictures later, I’m at work

[lucid valley]

I have maybe found the right approach to decode it but need more eyes n brainz! Inverted the negative space looks like letters/digits. (and it’s NOT the death eaterz text)

[leaden temple]

OMG

[lucid valley]

DAMN! It is the death eaterz text, wait a second…

It‘s blurred and rotated 180

[hollow plover]

Ohhhhh

[lucid valley]

I was so exited to find something, aaaah

[hollow plover]

I should have known that I literally have it in my bio 😭

[lucid valley]

At least now we know it’s nothing lmao

[hollow plover]

Yeah lol

[leaden temple]

But why include it in DR if it's nothing...

[lucid valley]

Just a snippet from journal page 7

or dmaorg

[leaden temple]

I guess

[stuck osprey]

goddamn it

my man really blurred the lines

[magic osprey]

@hollow plover

[hollow plover]

Oh thank you, yeah mine is different.. ): sorry I’m not at my house rn so I can’t take a better picture but this is what mine looks like

No album cover on the front

No booklet

[lucid valley]

btw: there ARE Morse codes in some image names! I was always thinking this is old news, but then I couldn’t find any solution, e. g.

d_e_ath__eat_e_rz

.-.-...--...-.-..

decodes to “endemial”

[magic osprey]

rip jewel case

probably europe

[stuck osprey]

mmmmm interesting

have we got anymore that we can work with?

im down to keep digging

[stuck osprey]

endemial (ɛnˈdɛmɪəl ), endemical. 1. present within a localized area or peculiar to persons in such an area

seems legit my man let goooo

[timber marten]

kind of makes me think of this quote from the zane lowe trench interview

"Then I realized that it's all about jurisdiction. There's certain places that I'll be -- whether it's mentally or physically -- where he has jurisdiction. If I can try to leave those places -- if I can try to stay away from those places -- then he starts to lose a little more of a grip and control of me. That's what Trench was, and what it is."

like blurryface is endemial to certain places maybe? or could be referring to the banditos or the neds even

could fit with the part of RitN that talks about the the doors

like behind those doors is where blurryface, insecurity, depression, etc. are lurking i assume

[lucid valley]

v-o-lds-o-y decodes to “arear” which makes also sense

[lucid valley]

Idk if we should connect the hidden word to the image name or not. In relation to the death eaters, vultures, that could mean, that their radius is confined or the power of the bishops has its boundaries.
Maybe they all together form a sort of story if you line them up chronologically?

But no one did that before? I’m flabbergasted lol

[stuck osprey]

im not too sure you kno w

the deatheaters one has been around for so long someone mightve come across it once

but i think it could be another clue

[lucid valley]

I searched on reddit and here, nope nothing

[stuck osprey]

i looked for the current published pages on the dema org site, theres no more 'password' pages uploaded other than the ones we know

[real plaza]

Line what up chronologically?

[lucid valley]

The Morse-decoded names of the images

[stuck osprey]

if someone can give me a list of all the names ill do the morse code rn hehehe

[real plaza]

I’m confused. The digital remains images have names?

[stuck osprey]

yup yup!

[chrome topaz]

I thought this was the text from "d_e_a_th__eat _ E _ rz" did anyone ever find a connection for this one?

[stuck osprey]

see because even then theres data in the name of the digital remains album itself

1717005586293

which converts to May 29, 2024, 17:59:46.293

[chrome topaz]

Is that in the original pdf file metadata?

[stuck osprey]

just the title of the foldr

*folder

[real plaza]

Oh does each image have its own file name? I wasn’t fortunate enough to buy the actual download

[stuck osprey]

yee 🙂

well it comes as a pdf but you can split it

[lucid valley]

Nope

[stuck osprey]

oh? did it not?

[lucid valley]

These image names are the ones from dmaorg used in DR

[real plaza]

Ah got it

[stuck osprey]

AGAGEEHFBIC

[lucid valley]

This one especially makes me mad

[real plaza]

It’s the Clancy stole

[lucid valley]

Right. But what is the horizontal structure under their faces? Could be an arm rotated 90

[real plaza]

How does it convert? I have very very basic decoding skills 😆

[stuck osprey]

ah! it's numerical 🙂 hehehe

[lucid valley]

The file name of the downloadable zip was different for many

[stuck osprey]

ahhh pooooo

nevermind 🥲

oooooor

people got different words

[real plaza]

Oh yeah I don’t know about that part, it looks like a wad of aluminum foil to me lol

[lucid valley]

Regarding the morse codes… can someone else do the work? Where are all the diligent theorists?

[leaden temple]

Reminds me of fairly local

[stuck osprey]

shift 4 - EKELIILJFM

lifelike

sorry literally killed my computer running caesar ciphers one sec hahaha

i’ve shifted it 26 times so there may be ONE 10 character word lurking somewhere amongst them

[leaden temple]

HAVE WE TRIED RUNNING THESE THROUGH GOOGLE TRANSLATE?

[stuck osprey]

ooo could be worth a shot

i’m going more down the scrabble route

[leaden temple]

I think that's the Clancy shirt Tyler is wearing in Routines

[stuck osprey]

shift 6 - GMGMKNLHOI

glomming

[lucid valley]

Why make it more complicated? Let’s first gather all image names and let’s see if they make sense.

Occam’s razor

[stuck osprey]

shift 22 - WCWCABDBXE

Cabbed

shift 23 - XDXDBBECYF

Debby

[lucid valley]

I always have to restrain myself from thinking too complicatedly

[stuck osprey]

thats all i got

its worth a try

i think its nice that i found debby in the cipher rotation though

[lucid valley]

Anagrams which are not complete are bad /s

[stuck osprey]

alright bro im just trying stuff

[lucid valley]

And I am joking

[stuck osprey]

ahhh sorry i usually use /jk

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 12!

[stuck osprey]

what does /s mean?

[lucid valley]

Satire

[stuck osprey]

ohhhhhh

hehehehe

sorry man im autistic as hell i really struggle with emotion in text

[lucid valley]

Yesterday I had the flash of an imagination seeing us all in a room decoding. It was funny and scary at the same time lmao

[stuck osprey]

do you think the EXIF data could have some inofrmation in

*information

also i really should finish my work hahaha

[lucid valley]

That has been examined long ago

[stuck osprey]

i mean as in the context of things like the deatheaters morse code

if nobodies been looking for morse it may have been looked over?

[lucid valley]

For the morse decoding and all other shit I recommend dcode.fr

[stuck osprey]

oh damn

i do morse code manually

my great great grandfather taught me morse when i was little

[lucid valley]

Muhaha

[stuck osprey]

he'd tap me messages on the table at family dinners

brilliant man

[lucid valley]

That’s great!

[leaden temple]

Amazing

[stuck osprey]

this may be quite a small thing

but this logo? can anyone find what its from, its on tylers pages with lyrics

ive reverse image searched it to no avail

[lucid valley]

It’s an Italian notebook brand. U can buy it. Forgot the name

[stuck osprey]

ah!

if you can find the name can you let me know 🙂

[lucid valley]

Search the channel. It has been posted several times

[stuck osprey]

bieffe! found it online just

[lucid valley]

bieffe is deef

but not brat

[timber marten]

i still wonder if there's any significance to this bird being in DR eight times? i know it's just the logo in the journal but is there a reason it's in there 8x specifically

[stuck osprey]

hmmmm

i wonder how many bird are in DR in total

[chrome topaz]

Castelli

[stuck osprey]

i've really go to dash though hahah ive been delaying my report all day and its due in like 2 hours hahaha

[chrome topaz]

The website is a dot com castelliitaly

[stuck osprey]

eheheheh thankyou thankyou

[chrome topaz]

no problem

[real plaza]

for _ev-i-D__ence I got "IN NEED"

[lucid valley]

That’s not possible: i is ..

The first letter must be:
T -
N -.
D -..
or
X -..-

Or the other way:
E, A, W, P (if letter is dash)

[stuck osprey]

i neeeeeed someoooooone

[real plaza]

my bad

it was is-ø-lat-ed

[viscid lance]

Could the 8 birds represent the 8 bishops still existing?

Which is why they spaced it out thru DR, maybe relating a deeper meaning to the pic it’s in

[timber marten]

this is probably a dumb question but how do yall decide where to put the spaces when you do morse code? Just try the spaces in different places til you find something that makes sense? i see what you're doing as far as converting letters to dots and underscores to dashes

[leaden temple]

I also have no idea how the spaces for morse code work and would like to know what they're doing too

[timber marten]

i tried ba-dge bc it's a shorter file name and idk what I'm doing

if you assume the letter are dots then it becomes
..-... which was not recognized when i put it in a morse code translator but if you put a space after the dash it becomes ..- ... which translates to "us" but idk if I'm doing it right

[real plaza]

Literally trial and error… first I put it in the translator as one long string and then start playing with putting spaces in different places… it’s kind of tedious sometimes 😅

[real plaza]

That’s what I do. And then I try putting spaces all over the place until something makes sense… I actually think “us” is useful if the converted names make a sentence?

[timber marten]

would be super cool if it spells something out

idk if i have the time/attention span to sit and randomly insert spaces for long but I'm gonna look at some others

[real plaza]

Same… and some idk what to do, the ones that have dashes as well as underscores?

[timber marten]

maybe an indicator of where the spaces actually go? idk

[real plaza]

Oh maybe, that’s a good idea

[timber marten]

i guess you'd have to play with it and test using different characters as the space to figure out if that's right

[lucid valley]

That‘s why I recommended the website dcode.fr
Makes all the work for you. It can try out all places of dashes and also has an option to only spit out words from a dictionary

[real plaza]

Ah good to know. I looked at that one but it was… in French.

[lucid valley]

Dude, you can switch language

[real plaza]

Dude I know

But I just went back to the other site I was using

Because I didn’t know the French one was much more amazing. Because it was in French.

[stuck osprey]

oh dude

space between each new letter

long pause between words

... --- ... (SOS)

three short taps

three long taps

three short taps

pauses are determined by how quickly you're going really

[timber marten]

yes i know spaces go between letters in morse code 😅 was trying to figure out how to place the spaces when trying to decode the file names from dmaorg
i found that french site that zero mentioned and tried a few things on there. not sure they're relevant

i got
ba_dge = us
se__elf = eats
o__ut = tweet or tax
_note = tie
w-eap-ø-n = rear
_maniac_Clay = thins

the others i tried either had too many possible matches or no words i was able to recognize

[leaden temple]

Hmmmmm that's very interesting. I wonder if we find all of these words if they spell out a hidden message

[lucid valley]

I got
__n_ot_myo_nly_fri_en d = retilled

e_sr__eve_r = creek or cask

[leaden temple]

These are very interesting finds

So I had a thought. This letter asks us how we found Dema org.... it was through a gif. I don't remember what the cheetah gif on the Dema sight says, it's been too long but did anybody try working with the letters in that gif again?

[lucid valley]

3lurr = he, is or see

this is the name of the cheetah gif

Ah you mean the animated letters?

[timber marten]

the letters spelled out UNSTILLIDONTCKNOWOHISNREALINAMECDOOU?

[leaden temple]

Yeah

[timber marten]

NICO NICO in the spaces between U STILL DONT KNOW HIS TRAL NAME DO U?

[lucid valley]

but that wasn’t the image through which the website was found

[leaden temple]

Right but it is a gif

So I was just wondering

[timber marten]

wasn't the gif that lead to dmaorg on the vessel store page?

[lucid valley]

Exactly

[timber marten]

pretty sure that's what i found when going back through the previous lore/puzzle stuff

[leaden temple]

Yes but I know other people were looking into other gifs for a while

[timber marten]

gotcha gotcha that makes sense. i just looked at the store pages but didn't see anything that looked unusual that we haven't already talked about before

[lucid valley]

@real plaza the angle was somehow familiar to me… now, with which other dots do they line up to exactly??? You know it! That’s unbelievable

[real plaza]

Wait what do you mean?? Something on the BF cover??

[lucid valley]

Yessss

The bottom right corner

Where we supposed the Goner mv antenna lights

[real plaza]

what no way

[lucid valley]

And also now that the mysterious page 120 is connected to DEEF or rather FEED (which sounds similar to FEET) I have to contribute to the Vignette madness of letters in Josh‘s hair (made by feet)

Although I found it always too much of a stretch lol

[real plaza]

can you post a screenshot, i don't see it

[lucid valley]

Maybe Brandon Rike just used some old Grunge overlays

[real plaza]

dude thats crazy

Rike. That came up in one of the morse translations i was trying last night...

[timber marten]

has anyone tried cutting out the film perforations on page 121 and overlaying the holes with other images to see if there's anything there? just a thought

[candid night]

Thanks for this - also been decoding everything manually.....

[real plaza]

I like this idea

[real plaza]

@lucid valley i know you got "arear" for v-o-lds-ø-y but... check it out... i also got "etruen" - "E true N" - EAST TRUE NORTH.
I have chills.

[lucid valley]

Cool! Sometimes more than one word makes sense

Would also be the shortest trip from the island to Trench over the sea

[real plaza]

i've done a bunch of morse coding. my eyes hurt.
not very well organized but if anyone cares.......

[real plaza]

as i think about it, i hope this is the case. there are many things i just want to ignore right now.
i'm going to let the dots be one of them.
and of course i might be wrong.

[real plaza]

_note could also be “TIE” how did I leave that one off

[timber marten]

another thought i just considered
on the drag path lyric page could the letters the scribbled lines go through be important?

[lucid valley]

Guys, I have the impression we are the last crusaders for decoding. Everyone else is quiet or talking about openers lol

But if it wasn’t fun we wouldn’t do it

I‘m into bed now

[hollow plover]

I would be helping if I knew what you were doing but I feel like I would have to read through days of messages lol

[timber marten]

we were trying to decode dmaorg file names using morse code if you wanna try that?

[timber marten]

you can look at my two recent ideas too if you want? either using the "film perforation" on page 121 and laying it over other images to see if there's something there?
or investigating the scribbles on the drag path lyrics to see if the letters with lines through them mean something? lol idk if either of those will lead anywhere they were just suggestions/ideas

[real plaza]

I did that ☝🏼☺️ but I definitely don’t know what to do with it!

[timber marten]

okay, trying to catch @hollow plover up but tbh idk what we're really doing either 😅

[real plaza]

There’s also this that zero has going on https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1268250505872805958

[timber marten]

oh yeah i haven't really attempted that yet

my last pre-tour theory is that maybe they'll release drag path as a surprise but if we have to find it first idk if it's gonna happen

[timber marten]

cross posting this here
i cut out the film perforations and laid page 121 over 65 (drag path lyrics)
still not sure what the "no ai" thing means if anything but interestingly you can see an A and I through all three perforations

[hollow plover]

i could help with drag path! (: i have a lot of experience with the lyric pages in the DR because of the unreleased ones ive been decoding lol (sorry for the late reply btw)

[hollow plover]

wait actualy i dont remember do you know about graffiti and the others?

[timber marten]

ah sorry i went to bed early. i have seen where yall were trying to trace the graffiti lyrics if that's what you mean? i was thinking of trying to see if the letters with scribbles through them in drag path might spell something but it's kind of hard to distinguish exactly which letters in some places

[hollow plover]

know what you meant (: i was just saying that might help alittle

[timber marten]

oh okay, if you wanna give it a try feel free 😊
i looked at it briefly yesterday but didn't really start yet

[hollow plover]

alright ((:

[timber marten]

i have work soon but I'll try to look at it again after

[hollow plover]

also, do you have a DR link that isnt just all of them in one picture 😭 cause i just got a new laptop and i opened the one i had on my phone and it lokked something like this 😭

[timber marten]

i have dr but the fine size is too large to send, lemme see if i can find a link lol

[timber marten]

there's this one with the page numbers #1252689799597392014 message

[hollow plover]

Thank you!!! (:

[leaden temple]

That definitely sounds like something! What if East isn't up? What if that's what the bishops have been lying with and when Tyler sings those lyrics in NATN he's mocking the bishops?

[leaden temple]

I think it's either dropping August 15th, because date tour starts and also Tyler posted the band symbol 5 times and it's made up of 3 characters 5x3 is 15, OR we have to find it. OR we might be getting something during the three show run in Colombus in October which just happens to take place over Trench's birthday

[timber marten]

wasn't east is up one of the hidden messages in a clancy letter though?

[leaden temple]

Yes, but it could have just been teasing the release of Nico And The Niners... I could totally be wrong about that it was just a thought

[timber marten]

it could be any day pre-tour imo
i thought 8/11 at one point bc of all the 11s
but then the bts tiktoks were lavish and atrofd (probably a reach but track 8 and track 12 could mean 8/12)
8/14 bc of all the 14s?
or maybe I'm clowning lol

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 7!

[leaden temple]

That's totally possible

[timber marten]

trying very hard to not get my hopes up
i don't want to assume it's coming and then be disappointed

i am still convinced something else is gonna happen but trying to not get my hopes up for any more pre-tour

[leaden temple]

Same we're definitely missing a piece of the puzzle

[timber marten]

I'm convinced we've overcomplicated it since they've been using the "right in front of your eyes" thing but idk

[lucid valley]

If we REALLY try to answer their question from the letter (if it was a major hint): „How did you find h t t p : / /….“
there were 2 steps in 2018:

1. someone discovered a changed gif and by adding the changed frames they got the URL. But it had that cryptic part
2. we decoded that part in connecting the 9 dots to the BF album song order (which was already published in the Violation code, when opening dmaorg).
   So, what if we combine the Clancy album songs „in an order that is new“ (pun indented). And that’s the new code? Maybe all these number hints were a help for this new code?

Maybe it’s a little bit more difficult and they also want us to find another page name (instead of clancy.html)

Like dragpath.html

Yesterday I tried all songs from their YouTube Clancy playlist with their appropriate album‘s song number e.g. Jumpsuit as 1.
But were too tired to follow this approach

[timber marten]

lol torchbearer.html? idk

[uneven dune]

I'm impressed that you're still working on it, I haven't been following this chat in a while. Have you discovered anything significant after finding the trailer of PS?

Or just guesses?

[lucid valley]

Just guesses, pieces of guesses, smithereens of guesses

[lucid valley]

There are 11 songs on „The Story“ playlist

though idk know how to handle the IAC song

So it‘s:
IAC - Nr. ?
HDS - 1 (on BF)
JS - 1 (on Trench)
NATN - 9 (on Trench)
LVT - 2 (on Trench)
SA- 3 (on SAI)
STD - 5 (on SAI)
TO - 4 (on SAI)
OC - 1 (on Clancy)
NVG - 9 (on Clancy)
PS - 13 (on Clancy)

[real plaza]

This is kind of what I have been thinking, but I wasn’t around in those days so I’m still pretty confused about how it was found in the gif

[lucid valley]

11923541913 and 1192354191_13 didn’t work (both only tried with /clancy.html

[real plaza]

Also how about all the Goner clues

[lucid valley]

Doesn’t really matter. The single frames showed only parts of the URL which could be „collaged“ to a whole one

The main part was the Violation code

———-
maybe it’s something like:
iac11923541913

what other song order could make sense? I‘m on the road and can barely type

[real plaza]

Yeah I’m still confused. I’ll look it up

[timber marten]

maybe iac is 0?

[timber marten]

just tried 0119235419_13 it wasn't that either

[real plaza]

What if The song numbers are from the digital remains

I’m at work I don’t have my laptop to try it

Or the song order is from the alternate tracklist in the digital remains

[timber marten]

ohhh i tried to play around with that alt track list at one point but never new what to do with it...

maybe I can look into that later

i am also at work right now and limited on what i can do but have we tried rotating the blurryface cover like the compass? that would be 3, 6, 14, 5, 8, 2, 1, 9, 4

[real plaza]

That’s an idea… but I think people already consider “east is up” with the bf cover because of the order of the bishops in Dema or something, I haven’t looked at it

BUT I am thinking of the animated bf cover. I have the directions of the rotations of each circle drawn out at home

[lucid valley]

The rotation CCW was already in the BF cover

https://www.tumblr.com/thecompasslies/173324502265/meaning-of-1539864214

[timber marten]

ah nevermind i think i probably knew that and forgot

[lucid valley]

Are there other lists of songs that come in mind? Idk if the yt playlist is the only legit take, just my first thought (also bc of the 11!)
And which order could make sense?

I‘d love to make a grid with all possible combinations of numbers and page names and then try out all of them

[timber marten]

lol the joke setlist from twitter? but then idk what you'd do with intermission, ukulele how to, or encore

[real plaza]

i just tried the alternate set list from DR, didn't work

[lucid valley]

Can you pls post it here? Thnx. Is it the order the songs appear in the DR pages?

[lucid valley]

Nah

which words can we gather as a substitution for clancy.html?
I would start with:
dragpath
drag-path
drag_path
drag%20path
———
torchbearer

[real plaza]

yes i'll type it up in a minute, it's a mess on paper lol

[lucid valley]

You‘re so nice

[real plaza]

aw shucks

anyone know offhand if there is a DR image from the RITN music video?

[timber marten]

yeah i didn't really think so but I'm trying to think of other times we've seen song lists

[real plaza]

OH what about the setlists from evening with TOP?

that would include song s from other albums but maybe?

the set lists are posted in the top wiki

specifically the show at newport music hall (columbus) would be much of interest

[timber marten]

maybe fly by? or some variation of that. i also thought it my be interesting to substitute the "found" part of the url with missing or lost but idk

[real plaza]

okay here is what i did with the alternate tracklist from image 48 in DR

[lucid valley]

Ah ok THAT alternate list. I had in mind the order the songs are in portrayed by the pages

[real plaza]

oh im doing that too

actually, it looks like they are portrayed in order, but i want to try using the image numbers

[timber marten]

there's been a lot of hidden messages in the letters that haven't been used or figured out yet right? fly by is a lyric in overcompensate but is it something other than that? follow the torches hasn't been used for anything to my knowledge. MERUOIENPEPA. probably more? idk if any of those are helpful here

[hollow plover]

I’ve started working on drag path (: it’s so slow but I’m making progress lol

idk if this will spell anything though..

[timber marten]

it might not, i could tell it was going to take some time to figure out which is why i didn't really get around to it myself yesterday 🥲

[hollow plover]

i can share what i have so far lol

this is the first verse XD doesnt really spell anything that i see lol

[lucid valley]

I have written a html script which you can simply open in your browser. It provides an input field for a list of URLs (line by line), checks the website under each URL and then spits out a screenshot of each visited page.

Edit: Javascript must be allowed in your browser’s preferences or add-on/plug-in/safety-script

If you find something new, be fair and post it here before you let the whole world know

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T4GhRXVpwGS_azBJTlTvf28GiieabMZM/view?usp=share_link

The following addresses give nothing new:

http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/clancy.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/clancy.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/dragpath.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/dragpath.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/drag-path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/drag-path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/drag_path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/drag_path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/drag path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/drag path.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/torchbearer.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/torchbearer.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/silverweightedsun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/silverweightedsun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/silver-weighted-sun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/silver-weighted-sun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/silver_weighted_sun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/silver_weighted_sun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/11923541913/silver weighted sun.html
http://dmaorg.info/found/119235419_13/silver weighted sun.html

[timber marten]

idk if i can help with this now that you started but your effort is appreciated
they definitely don't look like words the only way i could see it meaning something is if there's some type of cipher on top of that but idk where to even start on that

[timber marten]

i'll try to think of some other ideas for this!

[hollow plover]

thats what i was thinking, if there is one it would be extremely hard to find it i think

and i dont think tyler would do that for the code

and aslo

there are a couple letter that are a little iffy if they count or not

like some are just barely touching the line

like this E

[timber marten]

yes this was the issue i saw when i first looked at it

some letters i couldn't quite tell if they were touching

unless someone has another idea related to this i'd probably drop it 🫠

[hollow plover]

yeah )):

probably

im going to finish the rest of the song though ill see it through a little more

this is what i have so far if you see anything i should correct and you want to you can let me know (:

[timber marten]

maybe @lucid valley's French decoding website can crack it if there is a cipher

[hollow plover]

what do you think of this t

[timber marten]

what word is that lemme look at the main picture and see

[hollow plover]

its the last line

"etched"

i swear tyler is trying to be difficult

[timber marten]

i don't think it's touching

[timber marten]

i think you just summarized how i feel about all the current theories "tyler is trying to be difficult"

[hollow plover]

exactly 💀 i think our torture is his entertainment lol

[timber marten]

i think he probably sees at least some of the stuff on this server and i hope he's gotten a good laugh out of all our insanity

[hollow plover]

i hope so too lol

that would be hilarious

[timber marten]

p sure he said he "watches" certain fans online at one point sooooo I'd imagine he at least knows the forum is here
and we know they at least saw the figma stuff when this puzzle idea first got started

[hollow plover]

this is what i have

[timber marten]

i might try the dcode site to see if anything pops up

[hollow plover]

ok (:

[leaden temple]

I'm half working on it.... mostly keeping up with the chat to see what they're onto but I plan on jumping back into it soon

[leaden temple]

So I might have missed something but how did you get these specific numbers?

[leaden temple]

YES I POINTED THIS OUT TO A COUPLE OF MY FRIENDS A FEW WEEKS AGO!

[timber marten]

from the story playlist on youtube
just trying the corresponding track numbers to see if we found a new code if that makes sense?
so far nothing

[timber marten]

nothing so far 😦

[hollow plover]

Ah ): makes sense

[timber marten]

talking about the track numbers/violation code do you guys think we might be able to use the blurryface track numbers that aren't part of the code for something (7, 10, 11, 12, 13)?

[leaden temple]

I tried this like a month ago but got nowhere with it

[leaden temple]

I put the missing song numbers in the same pattern as the rest of the numbers (odd first, then even) and typed the whole thing into the dma org link but all I got was the error message. I worked it around several different ways but nothing worked. I also tried just 11 in the place where the underscore is to see if all the 11s Tyler has been hinting at were for that but that also didn't get anywhere. I also tried all of this backwards and nothing

[timber marten]

welp there goes that idea i guess 🥲

[lucid valley]

A question regarding the drag path lyrics to you native English speakers:
afaik one wouldn't use the verb "to etch" in the context of marks left by dragging feet, would you? I only know the word in connection with acid etching or in the context of art as etching.
And the word "surface" doesn't really seem appropriate here either, as it tends to be associated with a much smoother surface . In contrast to the rather coarse traces that heels would leave in snow or mud, the word "etched surface" seemed to me from the outset to indicate a much finer trace. Which reminds me more of carving into a wall, for example.

Now thinking about that finer path, „that leads to my prison“ I want to suggest two ideas:

1. the term „path“ is used in the URL context:
   „The pathname property of the URL interface represents a location in a hierarchical structure. It is a string constructed from a list of path segments, each of which is prefixed by a / character. If the URL has no path segments, the value of its pathname property will be the empty string.“
   (interesting that it mentions the slash /, which was missing in Tyler‘s post in the livestream chat and was the whole time my main indicator, that we should search something online)

2. are there graphical structures in the DR images that reminds of traces, etchings, that we have overlooked? The second title he gave these lyrics was „Devil‘s eyes“ and we‘ve got a lot images with a focus on eyes.

[timber marten]

you're right that "etched" wouldn't normally refer to dragging feet
i would usually think of it as referring to an engraving or maybe a carving of some sort

[lucid valley]

Exactly

[timber marten]

as far as this part goes I'm not sure how to go about finding any new links honestly
but there's been a lot of songs over the years referencing eyes, being watched, etc.

i have a theory that nico has somehow been watching clancy this whole time but that doesn't really help uncover new info

[lucid valley]

I mean we have only tried a couple of URLs

And like you I‘m thinking the solution (if any exists at all) won’t be as complicated as we thought of sometimes. It deserves „only“ the right mindset to puzzle the given hints together lol.

[timber marten]

yeah i was trying to think of some other possibilities to try out
not sure what other numbers we might try but i was thinking of trying other names in place of clancy? torchbearer, bishop names (i doubt if it'd be clifford or ned or trash but maybe?)

[lucid valley]

Just use my script to automate variations 😉

He etched traces into the ice in the MI mv…

[timber marten]

also carving the box in the craving single version mv 👀

though that was josh doing the carving there

[real plaza]

Last night I was trying “Nills” in place of Clancy bc of the goner hints but I don’t know how to use the script and it’s too tedious by hand

[real plaza]

I noticed this yesterday, and also I think there are some snowballs off to the right? You can’t see them in this frame and I didn’t pause to look for a pattern

But

I think the answer has got to be in the digital remains

[timber marten]

not relevant to the current discussion but i find this part where he's just laying on the ice so funny for some reason lol

[real plaza]

same, when he falls it's my favorite

okay i thought of something else

what if 11 is the number of characters in the url.... what would we call it, the path name? where the violation code is?

[timber marten]

the violation code is 11 characters isn't it?

[real plaza]

Yeah i guess it is, without the underscore

I was thinking of trying every song with a music video image in the DR, and that’s 12346891112 (correct me if I’m wrong), which is 11 digits… it doesn’t work in that order, but maybe it’s something to play with…

Oh wait duh with the underscore the violation code is 11 characters

[timber marten]

tyler has also been wearing the violation code lately but idk if that's noteworthy as a far as decoding/the puzzle goes since we already have the violation code

[lucid valley]

Just open it in your browser. It’s a working html page.

Could you find any „carving/etching“ in the DR images?

[real plaza]

I just get a google doc with code text

[lucid valley]

I saved it as .html . Can’t you open it in browser?
It has to have the dothtml as file type

I dm‘ed you the file

[real plaza]

Cool thank you! I think I need to try it on desktop

[lucid valley]

Just saying: idk the max. limit but I‘d recommend trying 10 URLs then reload the page and paste the next 10

[real plaza]

this is the only image that reminds me of "etching" and it also looks like a "drag path" - as in, the trails left behind of dragging/dropping something on a screen

[lucid valley]

I won‘t have time the next hours. I‘m invited. But if you need help with the html file just post it here.

[leaden temple]

IVE TRIED A LOT OF DIFFERENT URLS BUT NONE OF IT HAS WORKED SO FAR

[timber marten]

not really an etching thing but what do we think about the rope or string or whatever from page 119 (clancy ultimus capitulus 25 page)

[real plaza]

I’ve been thinking of digital remains + music videos because 1) they made a mv for every song and 2) during the livestream Tyler repeats the track numbers of each song about a million times.

[real plaza]

That image is too overwhelming for me. TBH I’ve barely even looked at it

[timber marten]

the coloration makes it hard to look at for sure
but you can make out several of the DR and Clancy's journal pages within that image and I wonder if the order there is somehowsignificant

[real plaza]

I think some genius on Reddit did a thing where they replaced all of the cutouts with the actual images… it may have been the other one with all the ripped up pages. Maybe I’ll look for it later, or at least I’ll try messing with the colors of this one so I can handle it better lol

[timber marten]

oh yeah they repeat the numbers a bunch but i think it's mostly in order due to the nature of the stream right?

[real plaza]

I mean yeah, it’s definitely not out of place. But something that did stand out to me while watching the second time

[timber marten]

wouldn't hurt to look at 🤷‍♀️

ohhh what about this i know they said snap back was the first mv they did

i wonder if we can put together more of the filming order?

[lucid valley]

Back 😃 I made a new version of it with all the appropriate pages from the journal. But I‘m not at home. I will post the collage tomorrow evening

[real plaza]

Yes. This is definitely possible. The Midwest lake melted the next day. Lavish was not filmed in winter. Vignette was filmed in fresh snow. Maybe we can figure it out!

ATROFD was also not filmed in winter…

And didn’t he tweet about the backslide video? I may be misremembering…

[timber marten]

without watching the stream i don't remember any more off the top of my head just that snap back was first bc of the haircut lol

[real plaza]

These are the tweets I was thinking of, about the music videos

[leaden temple]

I think Backslide might have been one of the last videos they did because a lot of the vids - Vignette, Midwest Indigo are clearly in winter but there are literally cherry blossoms blooming in Backslide

[real plaza]

Totally, and it makes sense if he isn’t joking around in his tweets, they filmed it after march 15th……

[leaden temple]

I think Backslide and Lavish were two of the last they filmed...

With Paladin Strait there's no way to tell because most of it is CGI

Navigating also would have had to be shot in Winter

[magic osprey]

wait so they didn't fight with lightsabers and use the force irl?

tyler didn't climb a tower???

[real plaza]

Overcompensate was first! He says so in an IG reel

Something makes me think next semester was second but I can’t quite remember why I assumed it was shot a long time ago….

[orchid tree]

BTS posts from the crew said that it was shot in April

[stuck osprey]

it may sound simple but if we rearrange the songs into the order of the seasons, and take the first letters or even the numbers of the track in their new order, could that lead to something?

[leaden temple]

Sadly no. Finding Kyber Crystals is very costly

[leaden temple]

I was thinking about this! It might be something!

[real plaza]

Wait overcompensate being first doesn’t make sense because he shaved his head in snap back like @timber marten pointed out…

[real plaza]

I’ve been thinking about something… if the ps teaser was put together last minute, and we were directed to it pretty clearly via BF twitter, and then the ps mv was officially released a few days later, what was their original plan? Like, how were we supposed to find the video?

[slender dragon]

hai any

lore

[slender dragon]

probably not find - they would just realase the video normally

[timber marten]

@real plaza is this what you were talking about? https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/s/sWLAioUYaH

i have wondered if there's some significance behind the placement of the antlers or which pages are connected by the rope but idk how that would be determined

[real plaza]

Yeah that’s the one

[lucid valley]

As I said I made my own version (didn’t know about the reddit one, aaah)

[timber marten]

that's easier to read than the reddit one even so thanks for that

[stuck osprey]

thank god

is it morse code

--.

or ..-

mmmmm dont think so

..- ...- ..- .... .....- ...- ...- . ....- ...- .- .- .- ....- .- ..... .- .- .- .- ..- .- . ..- ..- .- ..- .- .

UVUH#VVE4VAAA4A5AAAAUAEUUAUAE

i'll try the alternative

EYO

MMMM IDK

--. ---. --. ---- ----. ---. ---. - ----. ---. -. -. -. ----. -. ----- -. -. -. -.--. -. - --. --. -. --. -. -

GØGŠ9ØØT9ØNNN9N0NNN(NTGGNGNT

i dont think it means anything hahahah

worth a shot

[lucid valley]

There are SO MANY WORDS in it

[timber marten]

yeah i feel like there's a lot of information that could potentially be hidden there but it's a little overwhelming to try to dissect the possibilities

[lucid valley]

… it starts with EAST, just saying

[exotic quiver]

14 columns across

[lucid valley]

Quick idea: the pages which are also in DR could be start/end letters of words (in Morse)

[exotic quiver]

Position in each row

3, 7, 10
5, 9, 13
6, 10, 12, 14
2, 7, 9
2, 4, 6, 8, 11, 13
3, 6, 8, 11, 13

so the first 2 means a 2 letter word?

playing hangman/wheel of fortune?

[lucid valley]

also a good idea

We don’t give up lol

[exotic quiver]

3, 7, 10 = 20 or (11)
5, 9, 13 = 27 or (18)
6, 10, 12, 14 = 42 or (15)
2, 7, 9 = 18
2, 4, 6, 8, 11, 13 = 44 or (26)
3, 6, 8, 11, 13 = 41 or (23)

[exotic quiver]

never! I enjoy puzzles like this too much

[lucid valley]

Haha, me2

Third row spells „haven‘t“

or „select“

[exotic quiver]

weird idea. The 25 refers to rows 2 and 5.

Add those letters together you get
ncy capitu

Unscrambled -> paucity

smallness of number
or
smallness of quantity

nothing but interesting

[real plaza]

I can’t look closely right now but maybe track numbers? Other than 14

[real plaza]

Utica NY pc lol ugh 🤪

Are they doing a show in Utica (joking but also not)

[lucid valley]

Btw: binary decoding didn’t get to any result

[real plaza]

Don’t numbers have more dots and dashes then letters? Maybe a more manageable thread of numbers?

[exotic quiver]

Vessel
3 - Migraine
7 - Screen
10 - Guns for Hands
5 - Car Radio
9 - Fake You Out

Blurryface
13 - Not Today
6 - Lane Boy
10 - We Don't Believe What's On TV
12 - Hometown
14 - Goner

Trench
2- Levitate
7 - Neon Gravestones
9 - Nico and the Niners
2 - Levitate ??
4 - My Blood

Scaled and Icy
6 - Never Take It
8 - Formidable
11 - Redecorate
13 - ??
3 - Shy Away

Clancy
6 - Vignette
8 - Lavish
11 - Oldies Station
13 - Paladin Strait

or since there are 6 rows, would we attempt a 6th album? Self Titled or RAB?

Self Titled
3 - The Pantaloon
7 - Johnny boy
10 - Trapdoor
5 - Friend, Please

Vessel
9 - Fake You Out
13 - Guns for Hands (Live)
6 - Semi Automatic
10 - Guns for Hands

Blurryface
12 - Hometown
14 - Goner
2 - Stressed Out
7 - The Judge

Trench
9 - Nico and the Niners
2 - Levitate
4 - My Blood
6 - Smithereens

Scaled and Icy
8 - Formidable
11 - Redecorate
13 - ??
3 - Shy Away

Clancy
6 - Vignette
8 - Lavish
11 - Oldies Station
13 - Paladin Strait

🤷‍♂️

[lucid valley]

You decoded their secret setlist

Overcompensate is overrated anyway 😉

[exotic quiver]

For each column, what row the red boxes are in

4, 5 = 9
1, 6 = 7
5
2
3, 5, 6 = 14
1, 4 = 5
5, 6 = 11
2, 4 = 6
1, 3 = 4
5, 6 = 11
3
2, 5, 6 = 13
3

[lucid valley]

What I already tried before: to overlay the alphabet

[stuck osprey]

eyo wait have y'all found something after i was like hell nah this aint shit

[lucid valley]

What intrigued me from the start were the two wrong S. Again a double like in DR. Along with all those double exposures in photos and graphics

The only explanation I found was MM25 (the right letters) mean 2025

[exotic quiver]

Another shot in the dark. splitting the letters up into 2 words. The left 7 columns and the right 7 columns

mcclanupulu iscsalttuyi

pullman -> A type of limo or dinning car on a train
stylistic -> Stylistic lol

a Stylistic Pullman -> A limo -> Lavish

Okay I should stop using discord as my scratch paper lol

[exotic quiver]

What did you mean by 'wrong s'?

[stuck osprey]

but its so tempting to use it as a paper pad hehehe

[lucid valley]

In Latin it is „Capitulum Ultimum“

[stuck osprey]

where does it start with east(?)

[stuck osprey]

latin can also be translated to

ULTIMUS CAPITULUS

[lucid valley]

Nope, that’s definitely wrong

[lucid valley]

First row

[stuck osprey]

capitulus ultimus means the last chapter

its the same as capitulum ultimum

[real plaza]

I was thinking Clancy track list and then connecting it to the digital remains but I do love that Goner is on here … 😏

[stuck osprey]

i believe it's just whatever they got from google in all honesty hahaha

[stuck osprey]

sorry i feel super stupid, can you further explain

[exotic quiver]

For the morse code idea ... what if you use dots for 1 type of image and dashes as another type?

lyric/text and then the non lyrics/text (portraits and such) ?

[stuck osprey]

for my morse i used both renditions 😦

OOOOOO

i like your thinking

[lucid valley]

Tyler is so detailed in his lyrics. I can’t believe he uses wrong Latin

[stuck osprey]

though it adds further complexity

[stuck osprey]

ikr hehehe, blame the american education system

[real plaza]

No I love it, makes me feel so much less cray cause I do these things too

[stuck osprey]

maybe, the C L A N C Y letters and whatnot are already letters they gave us?

and we need to figure out the inbetween?

[leaden temple]

I'm not sure

[stuck osprey]

idk what do we think

oh! zero i think i know why he used capitulus

[real plaza]

This makes sense to me

[stuck osprey]

capitulum is the lateral part of the humeral condyle that articulates with the radial head

also known as the capitellum

[real plaza]

So like… the elbow? Or shoulder? My anatomy is not so fresh lol

[lucid valley]

What should I explain?
Start of first row
. .- ... - is EAST

[timber marten]

i don't know if this helps or would even make sense but i wonder if the backing tracks where they say left right left right are potentially instructions? maybe some lines should be read left to right and others right to left?

[stuck osprey]

dude you're gonna have to bare with me and literally explain it out

like which ones are you using as the '.' and '-'

[lucid valley]

Letters are long

[leaden temple]

Y'all are cooking

[stuck osprey]

ahhhhhhh i see i see!

thankyou thankyou

right lets get cracking homies

[real plaza]

I think red squares are dash

Oh yeah you got it lol

[stuck osprey]

ehehehhe thankyou ❤️

[exotic quiver]

cool idea!

[real plaza]

Left right then sideswipe

Like, tinder? Stupid I know but is there something else we swipe on?

[leaden temple]

Maybe the story about them meeting on Tinder is the real story 😂 (joking)

[real plaza]

The unused sideswipe lyric has always gotten me - first, it’s such a cool word, I wish it made it into the song. Second, what does it mean of course

[timber marten]

sideswipe makes me think of car accident but i don't see how that helps or relates at all

[leaden temple]

Ooooohhhh

[real plaza]

Ohhhh yeah a car!!

[exotic quiver]

wait ....

[real plaza]

I didn’t think of that! I was picturing swords or knives

[exotic quiver]

is it someone crossing a road?

you look left, then you look right, then you enter and a car hits you and you get sideswipped?

and as kids I was always told to look twice when crossing the road .... left, right, left, right

[timber marten]

or driving left turn, right turn, sideswiped?

[exotic quiver]

exactly I wasj ust going to say that

it'd be at a stop or yield sign

[timber marten]

either way i usually associate that word with a car accident but idk how that would play into decoding

[stuck osprey]

right i’m gonna sound annoying as fuck can someone explain where the east morse code is

[leaden temple]

WAIT THE GRAFFITI LYRICS DO TALK ABOUT SOMEONE IN THE ICU

[stuck osprey]

like with pictures because i just can’t get it

are we looking from top to bottom or

because if it does say east then it’ll be so much easier to crack all this

[exotic quiver]

I have theories that the meta behind a lot of this has to do with a car accident, but no distinct evidence

[stuck osprey]

i’ve been working 12 hours n just wanna code crack but the brain no work

[leaden temple]

I've been thinking that for a while too

[real plaza]

Yessss OR the dangerous bend? It goes left right left….. right??

[stuck osprey]

burning car, cars swerving in roads

[leaden temple]

Me after every work shift 😭

[stuck osprey]

dangerous bend symbol

do we need to be looking for bends?

[leaden temple]

Like he went too fast, crashed, and maybe is in a coma?

[stuck osprey]

like the map? are those the letters we need?

where neds horns are?

where the string leads?

[stuck osprey]

routines in the night

[real plaza]

Yeah I want to know what’s up with those strings

[stuck osprey]

i think the strings are important

[leaden temple]

FR FR

[leaden temple]

Same

[stuck osprey]

anyways i’m so so so tired

i’ll go for a nap n be back ehhehehe

have fun homies

i’ll be back tonight to code crack

[leaden temple]

Also question does anyone have a list of all the songs they played for Ned's Cozy Fireplace in order because I feel like maybe that could also be something because that's the version of Bandito they put behind the video for the FPE announcement video

[timber marten]

all the car stuff kinda makes me think of this

Google translated french wikipedia article

the French term is l'appel du vide

[real plaza]

Yeah or like standing in The middle of the road??

[timber marten]

yes exactly

[leaden temple]

Hmmmm there is French at the beginning of Overcompensate

I know we know what it says but could tie into that

[real plaza]

the car stuff makes me think of maps of course

[timber marten]

aside from next semester we have a lot of other car and headlights and road related lyrics with the only semi-positive one i can think of being in tear in my heart

this isn't related directly to DR but when considering all the driving/road/crashing stuff together i have kind of assumed that TiMH means that he's actually "driving carefully" for once not necessarily for his own sake but bc jenna is in the "car" with him with the car/driving being his mind/mental health struggles

[real plaza]

aww this is cute and sad...

[timber marten]

twenty one pilots: a summary

[real plaza]

SO TRUE!!

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 10!

[real plaza]

okay wait i was thinking of this because of how many spaces are btw m and u in the 4th row

as for morse - first row spells "maggot" 🤮

second row - "slave"

[stuck osprey]

i cant sleep

LESSSGOOO

maggot slave

[real plaza]

third row - "slart" lol looking for more combos for this one

[stuck osprey]

00100010010000
00001000100010
00000100010101
01000010100000
01010101001010
00100101001010

[real plaza]

oh dang, wait third row i had wrong

"havent" or "select"

[stuck osprey]

oopsie

[timber marten]

i tried binary but didn't get anything that made sense

[real plaza]

row 4 - "lures" or "leech"

[stuck osprey]

2587896177278311719930186

[stuck osprey]

ahhh poooo i didnt see that, sorry dude 😦

[timber marten]

it's all good
i didn't post it but i think someone else did

[stuck osprey]

ahhhhh poooooo

of course binary is too simple for them 🥲

[timber marten]

we all think alike though lol at least 3 of us had the thought of trying binary

[stuck osprey]

just for reference though:

Octal: 1044004210042520500524504512

ASCII: '\x19WY=M\x1bS\x0bGc\x1e\x12\x06'

Hexidecimal: 22 40 22 20 45 50 A0 55 28 95 5

no clue lmaoooo

ooooooo

"@ "EP U(_

again

nothing lmaoooo

[timber marten]

I'm gonna look at the morse code idea later i think
and potentially test the left right sideswiped thing to see if anything comes from that

[stuck osprey]

22 40 22 20 45 50 A0 55 28 95 5

could this be pages we need?

ah buggar, it has an AO

i can dream

[timber marten]

lemme hear you say ayyyy oh

lol

[stuck osprey]

ohhh shit do we need to use like a reversed caesar cipher

like reverse rotation and not forwards like usual

or maybe put it in backwards idk

[lucid valley]

#1252689799597392014 message

Guys, don’t you read what happened bf? We shouldn’t do things twice 😉

Decoding things row by row COULD be an approach but keep in mind to divide a row morse string in multiple strings to get different solutions.

[real plaza]

yeah i'm trying that, it's not panning out

[lucid valley]

Last row backwards „ENTICED“

[lucid valley]

Sorry, what does „panning out“ mean?

[real plaza]

Basically nothing is coming of it

[leaden temple]

Yeah, It's a mostly American slang term that refers to gold panning

[real plaza]

It comes from “panning for gold” if you know what that means?

Sifting out all the dirt so you are left with gold

[timber marten]

basically if something doesn't pan out it just means it's not working or you're not finding anything

[leaden temple]

I love that we all answered him 🤣

[timber marten]

lol i replied before realizing there were already multiple explanations

[lucid valley]

Thanks a lot guys ❤️

I can‘t remember in which row but I had TRIAL also

Or better (bc u all identify with she/her): thnx a lot gals!

Saw 2 shooting stars this evening. Should give us plenty of luck haha

Dunno if you can see these meteors in the US.

[real plaza]

It’s 2 pm where I am so no 😆

But maybe later? I haven’t heard of a meteor shower lately….

[real plaza]

Hmm I don’t think I ever saw “trial”… maybe I’ll check again. I got nothing for rows 4-6

[lucid valley]

https://www.space.com/32868-perseid-meteor-shower-guide.html#:~:text=The next Perseid meteor shower,mid-July to late August.

[timber marten]

i made these for myself using @lucid valley 's ultimus capitulus thing if anyone else needs a visual on the morse code i'll share

[lucid valley]

11 pm here

[lucid valley]

Cool!
here are the 6 rows in one version:

..-...-..-....
.....-...-...-
.....-...-.-.-
.-....-.-.....
.-.-.-.-..-.-.
..-..-.-..-.-.

[stuck osprey]

22:25 for me

how’s it going bromigos

[lucid valley]

England?

[stuck osprey]

eyooo yup yup

if you’re an hour ahead then you’re somewhere in europe my friend!

[real plaza]

me? no i'm im california

[timber marten]

17:25 (5:25pm) for meeee (US eastern time zone)

[real plaza]

oh wait duh

[leaden temple]

It's 2:27 pm for me

[lucid valley]

I commute constantly between France and the Rhine area, Germany

[stuck osprey]

oh dude!

[real plaza]

pacific time zone buds!

[leaden temple]

Heck yeah!

[stuck osprey]

jersey?

[lucid valley]

This time zone thing always confuses me somehow although I think I was good in math lol

[stuck osprey]

oh wait no wrong time zone hahaha

no i get that completely

one of my old school friends was kinda dull in the head, she thought that when it was night time in the UK, it was nighttime everywhere

[timber marten]

i got kinda good at time zone math bc i lived in Spain for about a year and had to deal with a 7 hour time difference between myself and most of my friends and family lol

[stuck osprey]

explained time zones to her one time and i swear she looked like i’d just told her santa wasn’t real

[lucid valley]

I visited NYC last autumn and to communicate with friends was hell of a mess

[timber marten]

also my best friend has lived in South Korea for the past 3 years and it's a whole 14 hour difference between us currently so i just have a dual clock on my phone so I can check what time it is for her lol

[lucid valley]

Now something completely different (Monty Pythons):
there is an obvious parallel between the journal and DR with motifs they share. Have we looked into that enough?

[stuck osprey]

mmmmmmmmmm

i don’t think we have

[lucid valley]

It could be a normal design thing (like all of it aaaargh)

[stuck osprey]

in the words of tyler joseph, where do i go from here

should we make a spreadsheet of things that have been tried or something

[lucid valley]

I mean the motifs they used in both should be more important.

[stuck osprey]

i’m guessing for a lot of ideas, they’re being skipped over or repeated, which means we aren’t quite getting to the ending that we need

i think there’s definitely patterns that we may have brushed over

also tyler used latin for the final post on the digital remains, could that infer that we need to be seeking out latin words and not english in what we decode?

makes it 10000 times more difficult if so

also, why does tyler reference voldemort in his thanks in the album?

could a puzzle part be within the album itself(?)

are there differences within the albums(?) considering there are so many pressings and variants(??

[lucid valley]

When I was still doing research, at least I always had clear results. The interpretation is something else. But here we are poking about in the fog.

[lucid valley]

Death eaterz

[stuck osprey]

mmmm that’s very very true

with the strong inference to death eaters again, do you think that could be a hint as to what we should be looking for?

[lucid valley]

I was so crazy that I thought the special coloured vinyls had an audio message. Y‘know you can morph a circle image to a rectangle one. Then I put it in a spectogram conversion tool… muhaha

[stuck osprey]

that man had us literally running around in circles

[lucid valley]

I think it’s a nice easter egg

[stuck osprey]

i’ve never been so hung up on a puzzle before

the LOC stuff was easy in comparison

but then again i was like a child so had infinite time to fuck around

now i’m a big girl with a job that drains me

[lucid valley]

Btw last night I was thinking again about „drag path“ and compared it to the ridges in a vinyl where you have two (stereo) tracks in one and the needle is dragging…

[stuck osprey]

that’s very true

drag path would be a good analogy for that

eyo hang on a minute

overcompensate, it’s what some people do when they’ve lost control of a car and they try to overcompensate on the steering to make the car go the way they want

more often than not it causes you to crash harder because you’ve tried to hard to rectify the steering

of course on a dangerous bend aswell, it’s not looking good

i still think there’s a larger motif with the cars

especially with tyler being in the garage having his hair shaved again

[lucid valley]

And you’re driving as if you follow that dangerous bend zigzag, right

[stuck osprey]

yes yes!

is tyler the car?

brum brum beep beep

i knew he wanted to be lighting mcqueen

buuuuut

tyler isn’t the one driving the car, he’s always the passenger

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 13!

[lucid valley]

A couple of months ago I suggested here that he is in a coma after an accident and „dreaming“ the whole story but noone wanted that outcome

[stuck osprey]

“and then he woke up”

[lucid valley]

The start of jumpsuit…

[stuck osprey]

oooooooooo

i loved that music video

honestly trench got me GOIN

jumpsuit was so so so good

but anyways, we digress

[lucid valley]

There’s a cut scene, where embers are flying around… then they morph to petals

[stuck osprey]

do we need to follow the antlers in the post like we followed the petals?

i feel like we’re just missing something fundamental for the end of the puzzle

[lucid valley]

FOLLOW THE TORCHES!

Tbh I only count 3 antlers in the collage

[stuck osprey]

i thought there were 6(?)

but i’m as blind as a bat

[lucid valley]

Dunno where the 6 is coming from. Apparently people who were there have count 6

[stuck osprey]

of course we can follow the torches, but is it too easy?

what about the birds

[lucid valley]

Not the best foundation for decoding visual clues 😂

[stuck osprey]

not the best at all

i’m like mmmm pretty colours

i haven’t been able to find anything on the web in terms of dema

is there another site do you maybe think?

like a new one, surely there must be something lurking somewhere

i highly doubt the dema org site shall continue to be used after clancy(?) especially if the story is ending or developing

[lucid valley]

Dude, that’s what we are looking for since weeks!

[stuck osprey]

it’s a new chapter

hehehehhe

okay so i’ve finally caught up

the downside is, websites aren’t easy to pluck apart and have lots of trial and errors with trying to find the right one

don’t really want anyone to stumble onto anything sinister

i used an XML site map on the dema site to see what published pages there were; there’s nothing new on there since paladin strait

at least not published pages anyway

i doubt anything will possibly be posted for a while

also, are we sure there’s definitely something we’re missing or are we truly poking around in the fog?

there’s always that doubt in the back of my head hahaha

[lucid valley]

You won’t find hidden pages with a simple xml sitemap

[stuck osprey]

i ain’t saying it was a simple one

eheheheh

[lucid valley]

That’s the point: maybe there is nothing to find. But I love these kind of riddles and I‘m learning so many new things on that trip

[stuck osprey]

that is very true

it’s also nice to see how people’s brains approach things!

of course i’m stupid as fuck now

my head is filled with microsoft excel sheets

freak in the sheets

i wonder if we’re looking for code

like actual code, html, python, etc etc

what’s your verdict on tyler’s & his PR crews knowledge on such?

[lucid valley]

If you are interested in the connection of DEMA city and vinyl/music industry you may find it interesting to look at my theory here:

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1234571868393050164

[stuck osprey]

OH DUDE

lavish is 10000% about the music industry

[timber marten]

you guys i got so excited bc i thought it might be braille 😭

i think i was wrong 💀

[stuck osprey]

penny loafer squeak , some new shoed twerp that’s coming to tel you wether or not you can have a record deal despite knowing nothing about music

[stuck osprey]

i mean it’s a different approach!

i hadn’t thought of braille i won’t lie

[lucid valley]

At least it has a 3 rows structure but I abandoned it very quickly

[stuck osprey]

maybe braille is worth a deep dive into(?)

i doubt many of us have explored it like we have with morse(?)

could put the death eaters into braille and see what it throws(?)