Digital Remains Puzzle

[quasi vale]

This video of them backflipping into the pool has them too hahaha idk the origins of it but I know I'd be very annoyed if it turns out to mean anything and I didn't post it https://x.com/pilotsforhands/status/1809259926025592937?t=WRdFwO8RFXs3alR4AgYITQ&s=19

lily |-/ 138 DAYS UNTIL TØP (@pilotsforhands) on X

josh 😭😭😭😭😭 holding him 😭😭😭😭😭😭 and guiding 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭and teaching him 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 how to do a backflip 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Twitter · Jul 5, 2024, 4:15 PM

[vestal ruin]

Twas near the hype mv release as far as I recall

[leaden temple]

Chat what did I miss?

[real plaza]

I saw that too, but I think those marks are the tops of neon gravestones… they line up with neon lights in a few different images

[sacred sigil]

Here’s a thought. I was looking at this image (23).

You know how Tyler has the tattoo that says carpe noctem in the white space between the shapes? This font (twenty one pilots) is super weird and creates some weird spaces. I was wondering if we can make anything else out in it. I’ve included some inverse and rotated images of it to maybe help us see the spaces.

[real plaza]

yes i am here for this

[sacred sigil]

Woooot!

[real plaza]

btw do you know if there are any goner references in the DR?

[sacred sigil]

I don’t think so but I’ll look again. Unless you just count birds as a goner reference. There are birds.

[real plaza]

ive always thought that image 23 was weird but assumed it referred to something before my time

[sacred sigil]

I think it’s just an overcompensate reference but it seems important. And they really want us to see it.

Here’s the spreadsheet where I tracked repeating themes in DR. There are 4 pages with birds. 9, 14, 89, and 92

[real plaza]

dude the three eyeballs on the left, if you rotate the image the glare in the eyeballs lines up with the 3 dots on the BF standard black vinyl

can i be making that up? if there are three dots, if i resize them but keep them to scale, can i line them up with anything i want to? I am not good with visuals and graphics

i might be seeing what i want to see

[sacred sigil]

I have no idea 🤷🏻‍♀️ The whole thing with lining stuff up on the BF cover seems interesting to me but I don’t know what to do with it.

[real plaza]

I am never coming down from my map overlay soapbox lol

[sacred sigil]

I think the map overlay thing is cool. I just don’t know what to do next there.

I’m trying to play with this page 23 thing but I’m having trouble with my computer. 😕

[tacit topaz]

Wondering if the Clancy letter/stay low Lane Boy intro is actually Clancy talking or who? Because it's a quote from a Clancy letter.... But sacarver and lisden (the hosts of the sai Livestream) seem to be the ones saying this?? Am I making sense?

[real plaza]

I know I don’t either… I’ve just been randomly making connections and it’s taken me there so I’m hoping to keep doing that and find something 😝

[sacred sigil]

Are you talking about the subtitles in the mv for lane boy? I don’t think any of that text is in a Clancy letter.

[lucid valley]

motherofpearl I know your map lining up is important for you, so don’t feel contradicted when I try to point at another direction:
when I lined up Trash I found that the top line that goes through the circles is pointing EXACTLY to the Clancy Way in Trash‘s scales. If we now line up the map to the other lines… what places could they touch which might be a hint (name, location etc.)

I‘m on a short trip in France and I‘ve got only my phone

[real plaza]

@sacred sigil Tyler grew up on Gainer street… Gainer —> Goner?? 😵‍💫 me rn

[real plaza]

Yes yes that’s what I’m trying to do! I think the line pointing to Clancy way on trash is telling us to use the map. But I need a better map image maybe…

[sacred sigil]

Can one of you post the pic of just the BF cover with the red lines?

[lucid valley]

If you look at the map take in consideration the right vertical line which goes through the goner circle

[sacred sigil]

Well friends I’ve been cooking for hours but I don’t think we’ve gotten anywhere. Maybe the trash eyes lining up with the water droplets and the line pointing to Clancy way was just an Easter egg from back in the day??

[stable chasm]

Guys what are we cooking with this one

[leaden temple]

ALSO THERE ARE LINES ON HERE THAT KINDA LOOK LIKE THE LINES ON THE BACK OF BLURRYFACE!

[sacred sigil]

I also worked on this project for a long time. #1252689799597392014 message I made a Google slides. You can make your own copy so you can move the letters around. It seems like it could be something.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HOT1EoCC-Zd8oe7X-_Sq7YRwYdZ45ndoJFFIucCUnZo/edit

[hexed patrol]

Omg I noticed that too

[sacred sigil]

Some of the letters look like other letters if rotated.

[real plaza]

oh no that's not how I had the map lined up...

the two angled lines, one from the logo and one from trash's eyes, line up with two roads near clancy way, that was what i noticed

[sacred sigil]

I lined it up like @lucid valley suggested with Trash’s scales. Did you find anything when you lined it up by the streets?

It looks like that puts Clancy Way in the goner circle

[real plaza]

yup

the red dot is the goner circle

clancy way is in there, and the red line going through the circle intersects clancy way at basically the exact spot where the music video was filmed

also this neighborhood to the right of the goner circle has a bunch of streets with bird names (can't see them in this screenshot unfortunately)

[cinder steppe]

Left side brain 👀

[leaden temple]

How many bird names???? Didn't someone say there were 48 bird calls in Paladin?

[real plaza]

Wait is that a lyric?

[cinder steppe]

Left-side brain
Holding on to you

[real plaza]

I see Talon, Eagle Trace, and Falcon Chase

[cinder steppe]

What are the coordinates

[cinder steppe]

I like what you be cooking that lettering always seemed so odd to me

[real plaza]

40.15789° N, 82.90232° W -ish

[tacit topaz]

No before Lane Boy in Sia Livestream and on the tour, they played a video of the hosts from the live show with creepy deep voices talking about "controlled by temptation tempted by control stay low"

[cinder steppe]

Nothing hits harder than stay low and lane boy making me so keen to see it live again

[real plaza]

The I is super weird, and both N’s are backwards…

Rotated, the T’s almost look like eagle heads maybe??

[leaden temple]

Wait.... Voldsoy is North West thing??

[sacred sigil]

I think that would be coordinates for the mv for goner with the accordion. That’s the spot on the map that crossed the goner circle when we did our crazy conspiracy thing with the map.

[cinder steppe]

Need to whip out my compass and find the coordinates of voldsoy in relation to the city

[real plaza]

Does anyone know where the houses at the end of the Level of Concern mv are located?

[real plaza]

Every path I’ve followed with my map theory leads me to Eagle Trace Drive in Westerville, OH. In particular, a house which has been blurred, and a business called Left Brain Professionals (which is next door to the blurred house). I don’t know what it means but I’m putting it out there in case anyone wants to dig.

[tacit topaz]

"you are surrounding all my surroundings sounding down the mountain range of my left side brain " -holding onto you

[real plaza]

Yeah @cinder steppe pointed that out… and one of the following lines is something about a kaleidoscope which fits in with how I got to where I did, although I can’t really explain how rn I’m so tired haha

[tacit topaz]

"you are surrounding all my surroundings twisting the kaleidoscope behind both of my eyes" 👀

[tacit topaz]

I might be misremembering, but was it "holding onto you" he was singing in SAI Livestream when he started screaming and they cut away?

[real plaza]

Idk I haven’t seen it ☹️

I wonder if there are similarities btw that song and goner? I can’t cross reference right now but it would be interesting to find out…

[tacit topaz]

Huh good question... let me think 🤔

So far I have the fact that he's referring to "you" in both songs. He also says "surrounding all my surroundings" -holding onto you "I'm inside-out you're underneath". And in general "I'll be holding onto you" and "I wanna be known by you" are somewhat similar in that the singer (Tyler/Clancy? Nico/Blurry/Dema?) cares about the listener (audience? Loved one? Tyler/Clancy? Nico/Blurry/Dema?)

[tacit topaz]

Oh and btw it is! So during sai Livestream Tyler sings holding onto you, and he starts screaming "ENTERTAIN MY FAITH" over and over and the "hosts" cut away from him and advertise the box set again. It's super freaky, it's like he's screaming for help and then they censor it 😭

[coral nebula]

I wonder if Nico was the one that took Goner off because it was the only song that directly asks for help to take him out?

"I've got two faces Blurry's the one I'm not
I need your help to take him out"

[cedar jay]

I used to have a link for just the stream but here’s a drive put together by @/tjbutlag that has all the music videos+the stream in it, the stream starts at 16:06 if you’d wanna watch it

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16eHNGIxshD7Tk5q_gIVQXpZ4snPYbb3J/view

[cedar jay]

The weird almost fight for control type thing that seems to be happening during the stream has always seemed so interesting to me, and feels familiar to the clashing bishop/bandito imagery used in the loc arg, I wish we knew more about what exactly the stream was supposed to represent we’ve never heard that much from Tyler

I’ve never really been able to put together a solid narrative/explanation for all the details in the stream put together to say exactly what the purpose of the stream was or how much control the bishops had or what the siren at the end is and stuff like that

There’s also some stuff that feels lightly foreshadowey like being on the boat for heathens/trees being similar to the events at the end of the era after the outside but that could also just be representing an entirely separate thing at the same time

[tacit topaz]

Josh is dressed as torchbearer at some point too! What could that MEAN?

[sacred sigil]

Maybe that he’s a projection that only Clancy/Tyler can see. The hosts make fun of him like maybe Josh isn’t real. They’re like, “Where’s Josh? He’s not here?” And then they call for him and laugh.

[tacit topaz]

I just thought of another glaring similarity that just passed me by... In holding onto you and goner he screams! And we can talk about what screaming means to Tyler/Clancy/Nico but personally that brings back the whole SAI Livestream and how he screams for help 🤔

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqTM84ae5H6SqC1i3IPdK2nMfXhcz8ecY&si=Z6kCtTZErbj0dp2Y found this convenient af playlist on the discussion of Tyler screaming

[azure grove]

ngl im not good with directions (lol) or maps however i wanted to comb through the streets and neighborhoods near Clancy Way for clues and i noticed the following that may be relevant:

1. There is a Mulberry Way south of Clancy Way

2. As for birds and bird related things in proximity to Clancy Way:
   2a. Hawksbeard Drive and Wingstem St to the North
   2b. Eagle Trace, Falcon Trace, Talon Circle, Rookery Way are all east
   2c. Egret Ct, Blue Heron Dr, both south east,
   2d. Waxwing Ct, Mallard Dr and Kingfisher Dr, Kingfisher Ct, and Bald Eagle Ct are all south
   2e. Quail Hollow Way to the west
   2f. I count fourteen bird related streets (thirteen if you don’t count both kingfisher streets) but could have overlooked some.

Things I noticed that may mean nothing but I found interesting:

1. There is a baseball diamond next to Clancy Way, I imagine because of the school located directly south, but it made me think of regional at best.

2. To the east of Clancy Way is Adcock Rd. I googled adcock because I wasn’t sure if it was a bird or not and found from Wikipedia “…is an antenna array consisting of four equidistant vertical elements which can be used to transmit or receive directional radio waves”. I included a screenshot for yall. Anyway, first it made me think of the “three lights are lit but the forth ones out” lyric from The Judge which is arguably a stretch. But then duh it clicked, it sends directional radio waves… something about it sits weird with me and

3. South of Clancy Way is a street called Albion Place, not far from Mallard Drive. Again, googled Albion because I was uncertain if it was a bird and found that it’s an alternative old nickname for Great Britain and derives from a word meaning “white”. Kinda made me think of the concept of Dema but again, a stretch I fear.

4. Above Mulberry Way are two tree streets: Elm Ct and Birch St. Trees?? idek anymore.

Final thought: what if the lore is built off/inspired by this area of ohio 😭😭

(also my apologies if someone compiled these already)

[alpine galleon]

damn, that makes too much sense to be a coincidence

[real plaza]

OMG OMG YES THIS IS AMAZING I found a ton of this stuff too, and the lines on the BF cover actually point to some of it! BUT ALSO HOLY MOLY ADCOCK ROAD!!! The antenna tower you can see in the goner video (flashing lights) is for WOSU-TV channel 34, Ohio State’s public tv channel…. And the antenna also hosts a RADIO station called “THE EAGLE” I’ll have to look up the call numbers

[azure grove]

hell yeah glad I could cook something up friends

[real plaza]

AND this tv station on the map is directly between the two top horizontal lines, I’m on my phone I can’t show an image

THIS IS TOO MUCH IT CANT BE A COINCIDENCE

[real plaza]

You have no idea, I’ve been obsessing way too much about this, I have been begging for this kind of help 😭 and also @sacred sigil and Zero found some really good stuff too 🙏🏼

Okay there are a lot of numbers in all this stuff, maybe that can take us somewhere, I’ll try to start a list later

[azure grove]

I forgot this screenshot of adcock rd my bad.

[real plaza]

Oh and I read that Tyler used to perform at OSU and his mom would stand out front enticing people to go watch him… I wonder if that has anything to do with the TV antenna

[magic osprey]

why would she have to tell them, st/rab was insane

absolutely the best eras

pre-fbr goes so hard

[real plaza]

Haha right… I think this was way early, like maybe before top

[magic osprey]

damn

no phun intended?

[lucid valley]

Maybe the URL ( I constructed out of the 4 pngs) wasn’t wrong too, bc it has led us to the military golf club called „Eagle‘s Eye“… a bird again and now we have also the Eagle Trace…

[real plaza]

Sidebar, from my research into this neighborhood, it sounds like his parents were the best

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 4!

[real plaza]

Eagle trace is also a golf club in Florida I think

[real plaza]

I completely forgot you did this

[lucid valley]

GUYS the street next to Clancy Way is called „Andrews Drive“, it’s a circle and not that far away from the name Andre

[real plaza]

Which images were these? You told me before but I don’t remember

[lucid valley]

19 27 48 88

[real plaza]

Cool thank you

[azure grove]

I was wondering if maybe the bishops names could be tied to the streets also! But I started with sacarver and gave up quickly. Probably a bad one to start with.

[real plaza]

Another sidebar, it’s kind of funny to me that Clancy Way is named after the author Tom Clancy (the streets in that neighborhood are all authors)

[lucid valley]

The bird metaphor (beneath the obvious one: bird in a cage etc.) wasn’t decoded yet. So, the new appearance of all these bird sounds AND the street names doesn’t seem random

[real plaza]

And the radio station “the Eagle”

And the old Tyler tweet “my mom almost named me Talon…” I think it was @sacred sigil who found it

[lucid valley]

Yes

[real plaza]

88 is my favorite from the DR 🙂

[real plaza]

I keep coming back to "i was born right here just now - originated right in front of your eyes" especially if we are looking at tyler's childhood stomping grounds

[leaden temple]

GUYS

Has anyone else noticed this?!

The lines on the Bishop's towers look like parts of SONGS!

[tacit topaz]

They're cooking some good stuff over here, have you read back yet? I feel you could really help with this 🙏🏽😊

[leaden temple]

I am a little busy today but I will read back shortly! And see how I can help!!

[real plaza]

Ok I have yet to watch the holding onto you video, but it looks like those girls are wearing skeleton masks???

Another thing… (there’s so much to investigate)… this line goes right through a huge house/business called Pettit Properties, a real estate company specializing in finding housing for OSU students (another OSU connection)

[tacit topaz]

Ya the holding onto you vid is hard to explain. Skeletons dancing with Tyler, seemingly having a good time at the beginning but there's a part where it's like tug of war - all the skeletons against Tyler (who has his rope around his neck). Then Tyler starts turning into a skeleton and even Josh looks like a skeleton face? Idk 😶

[sacred sigil]

Was there a question about the HOTY video?

[sacred sigil]

How did you get that url? I know you used DR images and I think I remember you put them together into an IP address, but what was the connection that meant those images should go together?

[lucid valley]

Ah ok, the 4 images were the only pngs among jpgs

I am just coming back home from my France trip and wanted to play a little with the unsual brutalism font. I don’t think they are more than just a fancy design choice, but I love visual riddles… so maybe the white space they are building when combined to a picture could show a form

[lucid valley]

What was your idea to examine the font from pic 22?

[sacred sigil]

It was 23. The letters are super weird so I had several ideas.
1- Tyler has the carpe noctem tattoo that uses negative space to form letters, so maybe these weirdo letters reveal something in the negative space.

2-(which I didn’t mention) maybe they fit together in some way like a puzzle.

3-some of the letters look like other letters when rotated so I tried that.

All in all I got nothing after playing with them for a long time, so maybe that’s just a weird font and not anything further. If anyone else wants play with them I made a Google slides you can make a copy of. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1HOT1EoCC-Zd8oe7X-_Sq7YRwYdZ45ndoJFFIucCUnZo/edit

Also I think I accidentally moved the discussion about the blurryface cover and the map over here. It started in a different thread and I didn’t remember where till after I posted in here about it. #1258930993126182942 message

[real plaza]

Yeah I was wondering about similarities btw goner and holding on to you, because now we are finding references to both songs

[real plaza]

I did see the T’s look like eagles heads and it actually plays into something I haven’t posted about yet because I’m on my phone… I’m curious about how all of the lines in the font line up

[sacred sigil]

What were the references to HOTY

[real plaza]

The original members (Tyler, Chris, nick) lived in a house together and recorded in a basement studio. Does anyone know where that house is?

[real plaza]

“Left Brained Professionals” is a business on Eagle Trace

I forget the others… I’ll have to look later

[sacred sigil]

Ah. In my mind the map stuff feels like cool Easter eggs, Tyler referencing stuff from home, but I don’t feel like it’s getting us anywhere as far as being clues. And some of it could be coincidence. 🤔 I’m going to sit back and watch yall cook on that for awhile and see where it goes.

[real plaza]

Okay great now “basement studio” has me on Pet Cheetah 😭😭😭 I need a break.

[tacit topaz]

Ya, you can see I'm replying to a message when I describe hoty vid

[lucid valley]

7369

I tried also to play with the font but without any luck. Btw we should be cautious with numbering bc if you export the pics they have other numbers than the pages they‘re on

[real plaza]

Clancy Way??

[lucid valley]

Yes, it’s in the lower right corner

[real plaza]

Yeah I see

[real plaza]

How did you find that address originally?

[lucid valley]

It is known since a long time

Idk when exactly it was found atm but if you wanna learn about stuff I recommend doing a search on reddit and oc here

[real plaza]

I tried searching Reddit… but I will try putting in the address

[lucid valley]

https://www.reddit.com/r/twentyonepilots/comments/mlelk8/discoveries_from_clancy_way/

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/2073597

Mark‘s agency was also located here

[real plaza]

Yeah I just found that same post! Does Mark live there??

[lucid valley]

Idk

[lucid valley]

I‘ve got the original 3D files (out of reasons I couldn’t talk about) and I can assure you, that the lines are a texture without connection to anything

[magic osprey]

proof

[sacred sigil]

The wiki also has a treasure trove of info https://twentyonepilots.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

[sacred sigil]

I know! I didn’t know what that was in reference to.

[sacred sigil]

Cool and also mysterious.

Wait why are there 3D files? @lucid valley

[lucid valley]

Bc the city‘s not real? 😂

[sacred sigil]

Wait what 3D files are we talking about? Dema? I thought you were talking about the lines on the bf cover.

[lucid valley]

I was answering to Emer concerning the lines on the towers

[sacred sigil]

Oh shoot my B

Hard to keep up

[tacit topaz]

Ohh my bad let me look for it, must've been another thread? We were talking about similarities bt HOTY and Goner

[tacit topaz]

It was right here sorry #1252689799597392014 message

[real plaza]

@lucid valley do these numbers look like anything that could be internet or website related?
317-314-06-034-000

[tacit topaz]

That makes me think of a LOT of things "gnawing on the bishops claw our way up their system" doubt (the word gnawing invokes a baby with no teeth to me). And this connection I made earlier today/yesterday "I hope they choke cause I'm smoking them out the basement" -HDS "I was born a choker nobody's coming for me" choker

[real plaza]

“Smoking them out of the basement” of 7369 Clancy way maybe

[lucid valley]

IPs cannot contain numbers greater than 255 (that’s bc there are based on binaries) and are always made of 4 parts: (theoretically) 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255

[cinder steppe]

Have we tried lining this up east is up style?

Also absolutely LOVE what you’ve been cooking up damnnnnn feels like we’re getting close to something

[real plaza]

I kind of turned my laptop upside down at one point lol but I didn’t notice anything… I will try it when I get back to it!

[real plaza]

Swear to god if we don’t find something after all of these “coincidences” I will cry for five days straight, following this path has hijacked my brain for too long!!

[lucid valley]

Where do these numbers come from?

[lucid valley]

Muhaha, that’s the price of rabbit holes

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 6!

[real plaza]

It’s the parcel number for 7369 (idk if you have that in Europe… basically it’s the number for the plot of land where the house is)

[lucid valley]

Ah ok

I have also been insane on numbers a while ago:

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1234571868393050164

[real plaza]

I just saw it and thought it was interesting, maybe could create something from it but maybe a stretch

[lucid valley]

That’s the typical insanity you met when trying to solve ARGs, the devil lives in the details. OR NOT.

[real plaza]

That is SO amazing!!

I don’t have that kind of brain, that’s so awesome

[cinder steppe]

Oh boy I feel that

[real plaza]

Do they ever give hints to say hey, you’re onto something, or even hey, this is a dead end? Or is Tyler just sitting back like, let’s see how far they actually go with this…………… I am new to the whole game, I don’t really know how it works

[cinder steppe]

I’m reasonably new to the deep theory side of the clique too but I know with the first DR puzzle we got the bf header as a nod that we were on the right path and to help solve it

But other than that I don’t think there is much in terms of help solving theories (turning them to cannon)

Kinda chose a really bad time to start getting into deep dive theory hunting I’ve got so so much stuff I’m putting off in favour of chasing rabbit holes oopsie

I am gonna sit down today and have a hunt through what you guys been cooking to see if I can help out though

[lucid valley]

The LOC ARG was way harder to solve. The thing is: there are SO MANY DETAILS that could be a starting point. And we don’t know what is hint, what’s a coincidence or just a design choice

But I adore your passion!

[real plaza]

My hyper fixated ADHD brain does not agree with this way of running things TYLER

[real plaza]

Hahaha passion or mental illness???? We may never know.

[cinder steppe]

Duuuuuuude me too
(It’s worse when I take my meds and start diving then all of a sudden it’s 3am and I’ve created multiple different rabbit holes)

[cedar jay]

theyve pretty consistently nudged us in the right direction when we completely miss something or cleared up ideas when the fanbase is really unclear on them

[real plaza]

SAME!

[lucid valley]

If you neglect important parts of your daily life I would be alarmed…

[cedar jay]

they used to do less hints right when the dema stuff started and have talked about releasing trench anyway if we didnt find dmaorg and they probably wouldve ended up moving onto another idea but as it became more widely known and a main part of the bands marketing they started making sure we didnt miss things

[lucid valley]

But how do we decide whether his tweets are a „nudge“ or nothing

[real plaza]

No, ADHD makes me do that already. This is just the current obsession, it might be something else next week (but probably not haha)

[real plaza]

Yeah exactly.

[lucid valley]

I mean u wouldn’t neglect your pearl, wouldn’t you

[cinder steppe]

Well this whole goner thing best get some nudging

[real plaza]

Nooooooo

[cedar jay]

i think the other nudges this era have included blatant codes to solve with BOOKS and PAGES in morse + the blurry activity, or have been direct statements from mark/tyler about where they intend to take the story or era. Tyler might be hinting at future stuff but it doesnt seem like the normal kind of "go back this idea is important" hint, its just additional crypticness for stuff that could happen in the future (in my opinion)

[cinder steppe]

The letter mash and Tyler saying it’s literally nothing like the liar he is

[real plaza]

Like, I know today he is talking about ai art. But also…. Is he talking to us? Like, recording the process and proof of work?

[lucid valley]

Haha, good question

As I mentioned in theories: he‘s a liar, he used AI obviously in Paladin str-AI-t

[real plaza]

Dude I saw a Reddit which showed that tweet translated to “where is my breath” (or something) in Ukrainian, like….. goner. Or was that person crazy? I don’t knooooooowww

[cinder steppe]

Agreed
Although with SnapBack and backslide (which I know have different meanings) it feels right to look back at what we missed
Also the “ending of the story” theme around Clancy also nods towards reminiscing on what has happened in the past (lore related)
(Imo)

[lucid valley]

I always see it as a great way to learn about things I never would have touched. Along all these years as a fan, and by trying to solve these silly riddles I deepdived into so many different topics.

[cinder steppe]

God we need help ☠️

[real plaza]

Yes that’s true, like now I know A LOT about addresses in Westerville, OH.

[real plaza]

But seriously, you’re right. And it’s fun when it’s not making me insane.

[lucid valley]

In the moment I am kneedeep in THREE ARGs:

• consulting a startup setting one up
• the one we‘re in here
  and the one I‘m creating for my own music

And you can imagine how my dreams evolve, lol

[real plaza]

Also I’ve learned how awesome Tyler’s parents were (are) for supporting what might have seemed like a crazy decision to pursue music, and that is inspiring to me as a mom ☺️

[real plaza]

Creating one? Wow that is very cool

[lucid valley]

My daughter is starting to make progress in publishing her songs and I love it

https://youtu.be/__dNKhiW1-Y?si=OTWwq0QAstd8b67H

Sorry for that shameless promotion of my daughter. But she’s such a sunshine in my life

[real plaza]

SHE IS SO BEAUTIFUL!! I love her alto voice ❤️

[lucid valley]

But we are also mothers, fathers, daughters, sons and not only theorists 😉

[lucid valley]

Tysm

[real plaza]

My five year old daughter has become obsessed with “Trees” and she puts in on in the car and cries out the lyrics in her sweet little voice and dances and it’s really the best thing ever

Okay guys, so what is the importance of the number 25? Because 7+3+6+9 = 25

[lucid valley]

Again… aaaaaaaah

There‘s 3 times (2+5) in 21

[real plaza]

But what does it MEAN 😭

[lucid valley]

next year

or 11+14
or 5*5
or 21+4
or Y
Why????

[real plaza]

So we think it’s important because it keeps showing up? It’s not tied to anything specific yet?

[lucid valley]

or BE
or 02/05
or something was happening when Ty was 25 or something happening to him 25 years ago

We just don’t know, YET

May I give you a good advice? Close discord for 2 days, do something completely different and trust your subconscious.
Then come back with fresh ideas.

I have to sleep now. Wish y‘all a good night!

It’s so great to share this experience with all of you

[real plaza]

Added a little addition to my work over here #1258930993126182942 message is this how I share a channel?

[tacit topaz]

#1256724195375845488 message Tyler commenting 14 characters on the drew gooden rt

[hexed patrol]

Omg they do

[leaden temple]

I think that represents (in a very abstract way) the vialists/zombies trying to get tyler to give in to vialism

[tacit topaz]

Thinking of goner (lyrically): what if blurryface is saying "I'm a goner somebody catch my breath" (choke on smoke) and "don't let me be gone" is more of blurry pleading with Tyler/Clancy not to completely destroy this part of his mind

[tacit topaz]

This also reminds me, I find it interesting that blurryface "cares what you think" in stressed out and in his line in stressed out, he sings "what I wanna save I'll kill" implying that he wants to save something/someone. And (kind of related) if we can assume that low voice Tyler=blurryface than he also says "used to play pretend give each other different names we would build a rocket ship and than we'd fly it far away, used to dream of outer space but now theyre laughing at the face saying 'wake to you need to make money'".

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 6!

[leaden temple]

It's ironic that this comment got you a level up from Nico 😂

[steel nova]

Has anyone tried polarizing the shot of the towers with thr lyrics, so we could have a clearer view?

[leaden temple]

Does inverting it help?

[cinder steppe]

Oh god I can see the 3d designs

In too deep

[timber marten]

anything new happening here? I've been away for about a day and a half

[cinder steppe]

#1252689799597392014 message
Zero said they had a look and it didn’t lead anywhere
But they were put on the tower designs on purpose so who knows?

[steel nova]

In the DR photos it didnt have anything like that, the design may have just changed. If it was purposeful it would be consistent, which i only realized after sending it lol

[steel nova]

^^^

[cinder steppe]

Still a lot of speculation but there is some interesting stuff here

#1252689799597392014 message

And here

#1252689799597392014 message

[cinder steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

The dots (probably just part of the design formatting but I know nothing about animation or graphic design)

[steel nova]

If you connect the Os and then draw guides across the lines on I and Es, it hits a center🤔

[real plaza]

Holy moly… okay wait I’m not sure I know what you mean by connect the Os can you show a screenshot?

[real plaza]

What if “no ai” refers to SAI… without ai it would just be “scaled”, what if we need to keep looking at trash for clues…

[lucid valley]

I tried to, but didn’t find anything

Btw, another funny coincidence:

[cinder steppe]

The number 25 is completely ruined for me thanks to one man

[lucid valley]

And the bird is on line 25

[lucid valley]

Another association with 25 I just had:
Clancy Ultimus Capitulus 25
The Romans only used capitals and used the V for V AND for U, so the abbreviation would be
CVC XXV
there are a couple of companies, institutions etc located in Columbus with this abbreviation…

CVC also stands for the 3 digit “Card Validation Code”

but CUC is 🥒 lol

THE CUCUMBER CONSPIRACY

kiddin‘ to not get mad

[lucid valley]

I suppose they didn’t know. They even wrote capitulum ultimum wrong

[cinder steppe]

Hhahahaha this made me cackle

[real plaza]

I kind of did #1258930993126182942 message

[lucid valley]

If you partout want to decode the tower lines: here they are

And a wireframe inside, hehe

sorry, partout means absolutely 😃

@leaden temple You’re welcome

[leaden temple]

Thanks!

[steel nova]

That looks like the B stage decor for the bandito tour!!!

[leaden temple]

IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THE LINES ON THE BACK OF BLURRYFACE

[leaden temple]

Okay so Tyler said we missed something from Blurryface era right? Well there's been lots of talk about the lines on the back of Blurryface.... these lines (especially in red) look like they could match up with those lines. If we figure out what line lengths match with the lines here and what letters they touch, maybe there's a secret message hidden?

[real plaza]

Yeah maybe it probably could have something the do with the map of Westfield OH.

[coral nebula]

Didn't he also say that we overlooked something from Trench?

[leaden temple]

I believe so yes

[lucid valley]

Just saying if you can’t see it: there are only 4 different line lenghts

[alpine galleon]

they want our money

[lucid valley]

Haha, yes it seems so

[lucid valley]

DR: Why are there 3 very similar photos of Ty&Josh standing in a grass field: 3, 41, 97?

[lucid valley]

What I noticed when going again through all DR photos: there are soo many photos of the both in nature. And we only saw them walking through nature in Navigating. And in his old letters he often was referring to Trench and how different it is from the city. Did we miss something - what was happening before PS - what might be important? Also the bird sounds are implying the importance of nature.

[steel berry]

TO ANNOY US.

[lucid valley]

It supports the feeling I had that everyone is so focused on the last seconds of PS and what might come after that we could miss essential hints

[lucid valley]

Nasty graphic artist apprentice is misusing his job

[lucid valley]

I‘m obviously reaching for every grass halm

Another observation:
almost all photos in nature are static, no movement. Wasn’t Trench motivating him after years in the concrete coffin of Dema? Or is the style just a „cool“ posing?

It almost looks like these oldfashioned photo albums we know from our former generations in black and white, In frozen poses, as if petrified, almost detached from real life, powerless, sad, playing a role without actually believing in it

[steel berry]

it's like screenshots from The Others

oh . damn . i just remembered the twist in that. clancy's so dead.

[silk badger]

yall, imagine at the next FPE’s, the little 25 easter egg at the end is something different

[fickle basalt]

Gonna keep my eyes peeled when I go 😭

[azure grove]

wait when did he say we were missing stuff from blurryface 😭

[cinder steppe]

When asked he said we missed something but didn’t specify what or when

There is debate over whether what we missed is still to be found or if it has been incorporated into something else

Personally I feel it is the trial theory (I’m gonna post my thread on that at some point today it’s killin me) but who knows our boy was super vague

[cinder steppe]

Make sure to share with the class in so excited for everyone who gets to experience it 🥲

[azure grove]

also going back to the maps and album art I was looking around the internet and found this album art style I’ve never seen before? According to the description it’s a repress release for fueled by ramen’s 25th anniversary. That vinyl does exist and was released in 2021 in silver vinyl, but the album art on discogs looks normal and not like this one. This website has legit reviews online so im just wondering where the hell this album art came from?

[crystal wolf]

I’ve never seen that art either but it’s pretty

https://store.twentyonepilots.com/products/blurryface-silver-vinyl

Yeah the link in the store has the regular album art

I was also able to find the listing you found- that’s the only website that seems to have this different cover advertised- it says it is out of stock but has no reviews of that individual product so it’s unclear if they’ve ever actually sold it

Goner is not missing from their description

[crystal wolf]

I would love to know 😂

[clear forge]

Ong

[crystal wolf]

I went down a little rabbit hole though and ended up reading an article written by the guy who designed the blurryface era branding
https://medium.com/@brandonrike/behind-blurryface-f561771315a

It’s really interesting, but there’s no mention or photos of that alternate cover anywhere

[steel nova]

The album cover is particularly something to me. Arent images like that some sort of coding? Devices like oscilloscopes can read shapes like that into code. Isnt there something like that?

Im v sure that oscilliscopes dont read images into code. But you put some sort of “code” into things like an oscilloscope and images like that appear. Isnt there a way to reverse engineer this to get code from an image like that?

[leaden temple]

What if each one is gonna be different and Tyler is gonna make us all come together to solve a bigger puzzle

[lucid valley]

Had another idea to fiddle around with the number 25, but can’t access my files atm to try:
the 9 towers are arranged in a 3x3 grid.
As I mentioned when DR was published all 121 pages can be arranged in a 11x11 grid.
Now: 25 can be a 5x5 grid and that would make it possible to use a Polybius code. There are 25 pages beetween the twins 35 and 59 (including them).
The Polybius code encodes letters to 2 numbers. Maybe someone has the time to look into that?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

[steel berry]

i am not solving a puzzle behind a $150 paywall, tyler. some of us are minimum wage bartenders.

[leaden temple]

Yeah I'm not saying I can afford FPE tickets either. I want to but it's a lot of money

[winged veldt]

i’m mad he’s not bringing it to the uk

he also hasn’t released any signings for london either 🥲

[steel berry]

i'm not so much, it means i'm much less likely to make stupid financial mistakes i'll instantly regret 😭

[winged veldt]

very true

i have made the financial mistake of getting 3/6 uk shows

[steel berry]

oof. i'm just doing the one, and that was painful enough.

[winged veldt]

my bank account is now crying

[steel berry]

saaame. i dare not even think about how much extra i'll wind up spending on merch. and petrol. and parking.

[cinder steppe]

Ngl they might depending how it goes in the US and Canada
I’m wondering if they’ll bring it to Aus (probably not seeing as we are so far away)

Also I compiled as much trial evidence as I can into a thread

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1260255376834691143

This was lowkey painful but at least it’s done 🥵

[mossy fable]

Hey guys, you know it's possible to hide a message inside an image

like a pixle is made of bits ('1 @ 0, count to infinity')

but that only takes 6 / 8 bits in a pixle if you just use RGB, so the other 2, you can store a letter in

and if you look at enough pixles, mebbe a message comes?

[steel berry]

I know it's possible, I watched a decoding the LOC video where they did stuff like open images with Notepad and found coordinates, but I couldn't find anything that way, or by splitting the channels, and honestly I don't really know what I'm doing there anyway.

I also like, ran image comparisons on the duplicate images to see if any had something hidden in them, but apparently they were 100% identical to the last bit and again, I don't really have the technical knowledge to do more than that.

[lucid valley]

If you mean steganography: I examined all 126 pics, sadly without success

[mossy fable]

yah that

[azure grove]

zero are you a genius

[mossy fable]

aw man, oh welp

[azure grove]

because you are the MVP of these puzzles I s2g

[lucid valley]

Nah, just knowing a bit on many different things

And I‘m stuck like everyone

[sacred sigil]

The interviewer asked something like “are there things the fans have missed?”
Tyler: yes
Interviewer: what?
Tyler: (smiles, shrugs) well, they missed it…

[sacred sigil]

Okay but the twin images aren’t just 36/60 (were you maybe not counting the cover page as page 1?) but there are also twins at 64/102 and 38/49. So my question is, if the twins lead to a puzzle how would we know to pick one set and ignore (?) the other two?

[sacred sigil]

Me too—I didn’t look at all the pics but all the ones that seemed important. Nothing. I used several different tools.

[sacred sigil]

Except for 64/102. It’s the same image but one is shifted down slightly and they have different sort of dust specks on them.
Edited because I mentioned the wrong pair and not the one I meant.

[lucid valley]

I choose this twin set bc of the 25

[sacred sigil]

It seems like if they wanted us to use the twins to figure a puzzle they’d either use all of them or they’d only include one set. So your theory may be right but then we have a couple of other things to solve if that’s the case.

[lucid valley]

I‘m leaving out the pair 64/102 (counting the title as 1). They are not identical.

I tried soooooo many things. The fact that there is a „loop“ inside a loop intrigued me

[steel berry]

Oh yeah, I didn't even bother with that one, it was so obviously different. But still nothing hidden when I split the channels.
Ugh the duplicates bug me. They have to be intentional, but why?

[sacred sigil]

I also think they’re very intentional. But as for 64/102 not counting because they’re different…to me that made me pay more attention to it. Like why take that same image and tweak it just slightly?

[sacred sigil]

I get leaving out the cover. I thought for clarity it helps people who have the pdf be able to turn to that page of the pdf. Did blurryface’s clue image use your numbering? I don’t remember. Because that might matter.

[lucid valley]

Wdym with BFs clue image?

[lucid valley]

Yes, you’re right. The slight difference could be intentional

I suppose you are using Photoshop and you know what you’re doing, right?

I only took a short look into these two (used „Difference“)

[sacred sigil]

The one from Twitter that had the DR images and gave the pwd for the ps teaser. Sorry I should’ve been more specific.

[sacred sigil]

I have photoshop and I’m okay with it (not a pro by any means), but I didn’t use it for this. I actually used a site that compares pixels to look at those.

[real plaza]

just curious if anyone ever lined these two up. i think its so cute

[steel berry]

OK, so this is probably nothing, but I thought it was interesting... I was fixating on the duplicate images again because I don't know when to quit, and I saw that while the true duplicates were the same file size, 64 and 102 are not, which makes sense because they're not truly identical. But then I thought, what if I sort all the files by size and see if there's any other matches? And yes, there are a bunch more that are different images with the same file size.

First up is the hidden forest image on page 48 (image 51), which is the same size as page 36 (image 37) at 2339kb. Next, page 113 and page 114 (images 118 and 119), both at 1528kb. Page 35 (image 36) and 109 (image 113, the infamous DEEF picture) both have a file size of 1399kb, pages 104 (image 108) and 52 (image 55) are both 1051kb, and pages 6 (image 5) and 105 (image 109) are both 466kb. Now admittedly, when I right click and look at properties, the more detailed file sizes are slightly different, BUT the size on disk is always identical.

Of course, this is almost certainly a coincidence. After all, there's nothing particularly strange about different files being the same size, my Paintshop Pro browser cache file is the exact same size as the first page (image 0). But the fact that I can't be 100% sure it's nothing is why I'm throwing it at you lot.

[steel berry]

And I've just realised that image 37 aka page 36 is one of the true duplicate images!

[sacred sigil]

Yeah the dupes are
36/60
38/49

64/102 are the same base image but have been edited to be different

[lucid valley]

Guys, I think I found something regarding the dupes… gimme a second to make a scribble in Procreate

[gilded hemlock]

There are no more duplicates than those?

[gilded hemlock]

Or maybe a cyan vignette could lead us to something?

[lucid valley]

Idk know what to do with it 😵‍💫

[gilded hemlock]

Good find nonetheless

[steel berry]

remove all the cyan from the images?

[steel berry]

It's less mad than removing all the Josh's, I guess.

[lucid valley]

and less work also

[real plaza]

That's cool! Now what.

Trash is kinda cyan, yeah?

[lucid valley]

I made the first step, now you do the next lol

[real plaza]

C l AN c Y

where is the L and the other C

[lucid valley]

If we just take these 25 images with the 4 doubles it’s just CYAN. I see no reason to make it more complicated in this moment. We have „Claim cyan“ as an anagram hint.

[gilded hemlock]

Anagram for i am clancy

[real plaza]

Wasn't there some thing about an image with DEEF and DEEF being color code for cyan

[real plaza]

wait i'm lost.. what is "claim" from and why 25 images?

[lucid valley]

I am Clancy -> anagram: Claim cyan

Why 25????

RU serious?

There are exactly 25 images between one of the double pairs. That was my starting point

[lucid valley]

Hm… the pics are all RGB and not CMYK. Maybe converting them to cmyk and look around the cyan amount for the doubles could lead to 4 numbers. An IP has 4 number parts (0-255)

The cmyk colors are also based on one byte (0-255)

[gilded hemlock]

How could i do that?

[lucid valley]

Aaaah, it would be so easy for me, but I‘m not at my laptop

Someone with photoshop around?

[gilded hemlock]

I was trying to download it hehe

[lucid valley]

But then again: which part of each photo should be color picked… idk

[gilded hemlock]

I think red

[lucid valley]

I believe that makes no sense: there are many color profiles and each gives different cyan values.
It must be something different

[gilded hemlock]

maybe taking out cyan values?

claiming them?

[rustic summit]

OK I have photoshop - tell me what to do

[real plaza]

I have Figma if I can help? I don’t know how to do much other than rotating and resizing images lol

[gilded hemlock]

i tried a website that turns rgb to cmyk

here's a difference for DR 1

first one rgb second one cmyk

[lucid valley]

I told u something wrong: cmyk is not byte based but RGB

There is a RGB version of cmyk cyan with these values 0-255-255

I‘m in a meeting 😥
Pls try thinking of other connections with cyan first. When I‘m back home I have access to the files

[lucid valley]

I think it makes more sense to first concentrate on the doubles or the pics between them, the 25

[real plaza]

So we are looking at images 36-60?

Or rather, everyone else is, I am watching Dark right now… maybe later lol

[quasi vale]

I will open the doubled pages and mess around with cyanish shades

[sacred sigil]

This seems big because there is 14 and 25, two numbers we’ve been given several times.

Cyan is the inverse of red, so any image with red will invert to cyan.

[gilded hemlock]

Good point

So

Just invert them?

I'll do it after some food

[quasi vale]

idk what im doing but maybe theres something in the yellow? lol

I feel like changing around the colors won't do anything, though. We have deep fried every image in all possible ways. If any color or pixel combination was off, we would have noticed regardless of what specific color it is

[rustic summit]

Potentially if you pull the cyan out in just the duplicate images it might make something in the DR puzzle pop more though?

[quasi vale]

There is no inch of blue in the image I sent now though

[rustic summit]

Lol this is true

[tacit topaz]

I might be crazy but it looks a little like an "ST" right here, maybe we could do this and look for hidden letters in the background?

[quasi vale]

That's a great idea but I have to go to bed so I don't mess up my 9 to 5 job

Tyler really needs to realize we're adults

xD

We can't do this fulltime anymore

[real plaza]

AND IN DIFFERENT TIME ZONES 😭😭 it’s only 1:30 pm for me but no one is online when I’m able to work on it at midnight

[lucid valley]

Helpless idea: there was an old photography technique called cyanotype (blueprint) that reduces a picture to only blue and whites. I know you guys tried all different combinations in figma, but when all pics are reduced to blue and white there could appear new ways to combine them…

[real plaza]

Just had an idea - what if it’s not “claim cyan” but “cyan claim” like an X marks the spot situation…. A mining claim allows someone to dig for treasure when they suspect precious minerals are located in the ground

[lucid valley]

Ik but that way we all can work around the clock. It’s nearly 11pm here…😥

[quasi vale]

do you have a photoshop tutorial?

[lucid valley]

What would that mean?
The anagram is supporting the idea that „blu is a sign of defeat“ and Clancy reclaiming it is similar to reclaiming BF‘s red

[quasi vale]

at this point i want to tattoo my face full cyan and just walk up to tyler like IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED? TELL ME. IS THIS IT?

[lucid valley]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YeHdrJ5rA7w

2 sec. google dude

[quasi vale]

I'm thankful you still linked it ❤️

I'll try the doubled pages

[real plaza]

I guess so, but it’s nice to work together in real time

[lucid valley]

Sure

[real plaza]

Where my California peeps at lol

[quasi vale]

im seeing a cat in the leg now lol

[lucid valley]

With an automation (action) one could convert all pics with one click. But I‘ve got no time atm

[real plaza]

I mean, what if we mess with the images with the cyan thing in mind, and then they overlay and point to something… like, showing us this is where to dig

[lucid valley]

Ah got it

And don’t diss me guys afterwards when you have spent hours crawling into that rabbit hole

[quasi vale]

Maybe we only need to do it with images that DO contain any blue shades at all?

[lucid valley]

There‘s this image which is completely different than all these styled images in that 36-60 range. Maybe there’s something in the window we can only see with cyan?

[quasi vale]

oh I thought you meant this one

which is now ...crisper

[lucid valley]

The mix of interior and reflexions make it easy to hide things

[real plaza]

I don’t know if it’s in the range, but the Lavish photo has always stood out to me as being more in focus and brighter and just different from all the others

But this one too

Also once I took this photo and tried lining up Jim with Josh’s tattoo in another image 😆 it showed me nothing.

[quasi vale]

These are parts with some #00DEEF in them

actual cyan color code, same story

[lucid valley]

Try overlaying the layer on a copy to strengthen the contrast with a pure white layer underneath

[real plaza]

Holy shit. Unrelated but @zero you found that one ip address that led to the eagle eye golf course….

In another server we are talking about Donnie darko which reminded me of this post https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1253770768983134239

And I put those numbers in to an ip finder 28.6.42.12 and it’s in Columbus Ohio

So how do we figure out where exactly, sorry I don’t mean to change the subject

Also is it even possible to choose your ip? This is weird and beyond coincidence to me

[quasi vale]

You should maybe add this bit to the the world is ending post

[real plaza]

Oh yeah duh, good idea

[exotic quiver]

Great idea but really hard to make out anything

[tacit topaz]

Hard to do on mobile w/o Photoshop, tried a few different work-arounds. Ended up trying to make the exact same size and line them up perfectly 💀

[lucid valley]

Can you post a png with transparency here pls?

[lucid valley]

3990 E Broad St, Columbus, OH 43213, Vereinigte Staaten

And no, it’s not possible to choose your IP

Strange that is again the DoD… maybe this ARG is a honeypot and TOP are working as Special Agents for the gov /j

[tacit topaz]

Transparency as in what? Sorry a lil confused

[lucid valley]

I can see that there is already transparency showing (grey checkerboard bg looking through)

[exotic quiver]

Lotter+vapes = 11
Keno+jim+ bubb+gum=14
Bishops+brand+available+here=25

[tacit topaz]

11/14/25 would END me 🫠

[lucid valley]

That’s exactly how conspiracy theories start. Oh my DoD…er.. god. I hope we don’t attract any psycho flatearthers, chemtrail idiots and other tin hats lulz

[rustic summit]

while playing around in photoshop with curves on some of the images that just looked weird and super oversaturated I came across what could possibly be letters or numbers here? not sure thought I would share with the class anyways lol.

[azure grove]

11/14/25 is on a Friday which seems to be a good day/weekend for a release 🤔

[real plaza]

What do you mean “again”?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5EmsRAtFo84f6RcH6?g_st=ic BTW this is the actual market they filmed at… the reviews are pretty cute ☺️

[steel nova]

Have we tried making things from the non-cannon videos like that board and making it saturated like that?

[rustic summit]

did you guys see that it says criss cross right under the lottery sign? I'm just playing with it in cyanotype in PS but I noticed that - not sure if it was anything or not

[real plaza]

I don’t see it! That could mean something to me…

[rustic summit]

k please hold I'll send it!

I cropped in here but I'll send the full photo

directly under the light under the lottery sign

here it is in reg colour too

[real plaza]

Good find! I wonder if that means we can find something by crossing lines, maybe the telephone wires

[rustic summit]

Oh yay! Lol I'm glad I found something that might be useful lol!

also this.. but don't know if it means anything either lol

[real plaza]

Does it say something? I can’t tell

[rustic summit]

I see like a letter and then EGA and then maybe N D N O R on the bottom line? at first I thought Mega winner but it doesn't completely look like that to me

[cinder steppe]

Yall been cooking with this I like it

[cinder steppe]

THIS is super interesting ngl got me all excited need to go do some digging now

[cinder steppe]

And claim cyan coming up AGAIN
Ain’t no coincidence 👀

The problem I’m sure we are all finding is we have WAY too much information that we don’t know what to do with

[rustic summit]

I'm a photographer and very well versed in photoshop so if you guys have anything that could use tweaking let me know! I am happy to help 🙂

[rustic summit]

another probably nothing.. but I feel like the top circled words don't say the lyrics but maybe 04M 0A- and at the bottom of the page is that the top of some numbered code? I see what could be the top of 1589891-1 ?

[crystal wolf]

Definitely agree with you on the numbers at the bottom- the top I can pretty clearly see “born” though

[real plaza]

DUDE THIS IS LITERALLY THE SAME ADDRESS AS THE IP YOU FOUND USING THE PNGS. 😭🤯😫 why

[crystal wolf]

Is that third number an 8 or a 3?

[real plaza]

Isn’t that number the original violation code?

[crystal wolf]

15398642_14

Which I could see being what that string of numbers is down there

[rustic summit]

Oh yep lol that's what it is for sure 😅

Actually I don't think I see a 6 there though - I think it looks like 1539894 something 1

Maybe a slightly different code? crosses fingers

[exotic quiver]

I thought we found it is the code and matches with another image

[rustic summit]

I'm new here lol 😆 so if it was already found out then I apologize 😅

[steel nova]

Hi everyone, just been reading all of your guys’ convos about cyan. Check this out. It’s a street in Jamaica surrounded by streets with color names. Thought that was kinda spooky

[steel nova]

…and after scouting the area around the road Cyan Cl, I found those surrounding streets and highways are named after places i.e. Milan and Bologna..stops on tour ! So weird..still checking out more and looking up venue names and listening party locations

Anyone else see that as a clue? Or maybe I’m just studying geography over here..

[leaden temple]

That's so cool!

I've been gone from DR for a bit what have I missed?

[cinder steppe]

So was watching a doco today and noticed the same black spot on a roll of video film
I’ve seen the debate over this DR image being film or not and it is 100% from a film roll
The spot is called a perforation

This has probably been discussed to death but felt I needed to chime in and say this is strange seeing as it’s the only image with that perforation. There are other DR images with static and lighting that look like they are from film too (which we have discussed anyway)

But my point: this has to be significant to some degree seeing as it is the last photo in the DR (121) and there is so many unknowns about where this was taken / context

[gilded hemlock]

[smoky imp]

this is a brand of tobacco idk if we’re supposed to look that far into this

[cinder steppe]

As an Aussie seeing any kind of tobacco product that doesn’t have old mate Bryan or one of these on the front is terrifying

(Spoiler cover as this might be trying for some people)

[lucid valley]

It‘s a frame from a 35 mm analog film roll.
And I‘m PRETTY SURE that it’s a scene when Clancy climbed out of the tunnel. I mentioned this earlier somewhere else. The gras/straw in the front can also be seen in the PS mv.
The pic 126 is just a cutout (blue frame). The red frame shows the full format.

But like anybody else Idk what it should hint at. The „cinematic“ experience of the PS mv? A movie coming?
Btw the standard frame rate for movies is 24 but for TV it’s 25.
Could the terms „still“ or „frame“ lead to an explanation?

[gilded hemlock]

"I know you see me standin' still"

[cinder steppe]

Yes I remember this

[rustic summit]

Oh! I didn't even know that lol I'm in Canada and have never seen that brand before!

[smoky imp]

i had to google it to be sure lol. all good, but just a reminder that sometimes things are there for no lore/puzzle reason lol

[real plaza]

or maybe a hint to look in the music videos?

[lucid valley]

We‘re talking about music, don’t we? I throw more numbers on the table to make y‘all even more insane:

[tacit topaz]

I know I saw someone mention it a while back (probably was you) and some people were skeptical that's what it really was. This is spot on though!

[lucid valley]

CYAN is the key

Key to what door? The blue door.

[real plaza]

This is beautiful. 7639 Clancy way has a blue door. Hm.

[lucid valley]

AstralAlly in theories posted this quote

„Your mind is a map“ and I answered with:

And he is still navigating with that map, in that map, that’s Clancy‘s way -> „Clancy Way“, where it all starts

It looks to me as if we could move pics around to see a bigger picture in the end…

[real plaza]

What is the quote from? I mean what album is he talking about?

Hence 121 images. 11x11

[lucid valley]

Maybe we were to focused on the content, the details. When we take a step back, a bird’s eye view, we could see the „door“

[real plaza]

7+3+6+9=25. The origin of 25

[lucid valley]

Haha, they first wanted to take over house 7365 (21), but they were too shy

[real plaza]

I like the puzzle. How do I do the puzzle? Do I have to put all the photos in figma and make them cyan or whatever? That’s going to take forever lol

[exotic quiver]

That or do it in any program with the files

[lucid valley]

They don’t have to be cyan. But monochrome and with high contrast to loose the details. I inverted it before, now the lyric pages are black holes (just my humour)

[spark lagoon]

the blue door that was all over the SAI tour… what songs was that part squished between on the set?

[lucid valley]

I don’t remember

[real plaza]

Also I don’t have the actual digital remains I’m getting them from someone who posted them somewhere. Does that matter?

[spark lagoon]

oh, the blue door was the intro to the whole set

did clancy need a key? to get onto stage and perform?

[lucid valley]

The 11x11 grid floating around was my pic and I made all pics the same height like in the pdf (the original images have different dimensions)

Easier to take the pdf and export all pages (several free online sites doing that)

the transformation into squares in the blue image was an idea towards a QRcode

[spark lagoon]

qr codes are so specific it would have to be perfect to get it to link anywhere

[lucid valley]

Ik, just playing with all sorts of ideas

I‘m seeing patterns everywhere lol

[spark lagoon]

i know 😭😭 im seeing the story of trench in media that has nothing to even do with twenty one pilots lmao

[lucid valley]

That‘s bc it’s a traditional hero narrative and it’s filled with dichotomies. Though you‘ll find correlations everywhere

[spark lagoon]

yeah absolutely. I bet that now after this past month of nothing but Twenty One Pilots lore deep diving— I’ll never see another similar story line without just seeing trench and clancy and the torchbearer all over it lol

[lucid valley]

Same with the numbers 0 to 9. History, arts and science is full of it and it makes us see connections all the time

LOTR, HarryP, DDarko to name a few. Tyler didn’t grew up isolated

[spark lagoon]

i know of the LOTR/Donnie Darko but ive never heard of and HP comparison? nor do i really see any unless im missing something

[lucid valley]

Voldemort = Nico
there’s way more oc

There‘s also a striking parallel to a 70s SF (I made a post on reddit about that)

[spark lagoon]

a 70s SF?

[lucid valley]

„Logan‘s Run“

[spark lagoon]

oh just the summary of that is interesting

[lucid valley]

I just have no access to my computer atm to puzzle. The blue pic I made on my iPad.

[lucid valley]

I can dm you the reddit link iyw

[spark lagoon]

yeah!

[lucid valley]

I DMed you a link 😉

[real plaza]

This would be very fun to puzzle on an iPad

[exotic quiver]

@lucid valley could the lines from https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1258930993126182942 line up with the 11x11 DR images?? @real plaza

[lucid valley]

Idk

Try it bro

[real plaza]

Yeah try it!

Maybe that’s the key!

[exotic quiver]

Haha off my pc today. Maybe tomorrow

[lucid valley]

Here’s the original grid (without transformation to squares)

[spark lagoon]

i think when i get home i want to mess with the BF lines and this stuff. i saw the link to a bigger map floating around earlier, are you guys working together on a shared doc or is everyone checking it out on their own?

[lucid valley]

I made a bigger one for motherofpearl

Screenshots from google maps stitched together

[exotic quiver]

Hmm how would you line that up…

[real plaza]

@exotic quiver has a whole google maps thing going on

It’s pretty bad ass

[spark lagoon]

i was wondering moreso if we have the layers we’re making. like a layer of the lines that you guys drew using the BF album, and the album covers as they overlapped

[spark lagoon]

oh awesome! is there a link?

[real plaza]

Yeah in the thread…..

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Rk-lwcIpwr10dpT1Y2txM5P43IN_TYU&usp=sharing

[lucid valley]

All my initial pics should be there

[spark lagoon]

i was searching in the IP thread 😭😭 lol whoops

[exotic quiver]

Beat me to it

[spark lagoon]

thank you!!! ill see if i can make out anything new when i get home

[exotic quiver]

I spent too much time today on google maps 🤦‍♂️

[real plaza]

Yeah I made everything kind of a mess in that thread I started, but at least I can kind of follow it lol

[spark lagoon]

i bet the map of Columbus is burnt into your brain now lol

[lucid valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1252689799597392014/1259255883951509574/bf_cover_sw_lines.jpg?ex=6692edee&is=66919c6e&hm=d6662575ff21961925b2ed6ff5a8ec62cbfb5e224de6de10efe27db23f58f1a8&

[real plaza]

I know the neighborhood of Westerville Ohio way better than I ever should have lol

[exotic quiver]

With a better straight line do these line up?

[lucid valley]

If you connect all logos?

There are so many ways to draw lines… like I said bf, we haven’t yet a clear concept of what is important and what not. That’s the reason I tried this new approach by stepping back to see the bigger pic.

[exotic quiver]

Just the two I tried with the blue line

The idea was taking the lines we found on Bf cover and using over that image to see if anything is found

[lucid valley]

Connect all eyes, all lyrics etc. where to start?

[exotic quiver]

Two vertical lines and four horizontal lines, in this pattern. That’s all I was looking for

[gilded hemlock]

guys careful with this page https://www.fitnihil.be/twenty-one-pilots/clancy/digital-remains/ seems like it got hacked, i keep getting warnings from opera about it

[gilded hemlock]

Does someone have this image? I wanted to try something with it but the page got hacked/downed and I can't download it

[lucid valley]

Guys I’m out for today/tonight. Good look! Have fun, don’t take it all too serious

[gilded hemlock]

Take care Zero, rest well. Thank you for the ideas and passion

[lucid valley]

Last idea for tonight:

#1256724195375845488 message

C ya tomorrow

[real plaza]

Thank you for the heads up!

[real plaza]

zero just posted it up there 👆

[gilded hemlock]

I got it from cydaustralia

[neon pebble]

Or flip DEEF and it’s FEED… maybe we need to flip/ mirror images… just random thoughts coming up along this line of thought

[azure grove]

speaking of the deef page in digital remains I noticed a while ago this little spec on the page and it looks like an eye to me for sure. i tried to pair it up with the drawn eyes page 12 to no avail. but what i do think is interesting is when i looked up the DEEF hex codes again (00DEEF and DEEF00) i saw that the inverse colors both have the numbers 2110, which made me think even more that page 12 has a clue of some sort? idk pretty sure im cooking nothing but what do yall think.

HOLD THE FUCKIN PHONE GUYS I THINK I FOUND ANOTHER LETTER ON THE DEEF PAGE IS THIS AN L TO YALL??

[cinder steppe]

This always looks like a T to me

[azure grove]

this also looks like a J??

[azure grove]

i can kinda see what you’re saying and this just further enforces to me that there is more hidden in this photo

[cinder steppe]

Goddamn

[azure grove]

I mean I know with the pixelation your mind can make up images but the L for sure looks legit to me

[worldly swallow]

I'm not dissing but I feel like looking for letters in a red staticy thing is a but much 😭

[azure grove]

for sure i mean it’s insane but the little eye in the image makes me think it’s a clue to look for more

[real plaza]

this looks like a little staircase to me

can yall explain the deef thing to me? i haven't seen the manipulated image so i have no idea, i just see an E

[azure grove]

I got you one second

[real plaza]

Ahh. That's so weird

Okay so there are three “blue” clues - deef, “claim cyan” (still don’t know where that came from), and the blue door on the Clancy Way house. I’m ready to say it means something…

[gilded hemlock]

There is a page that inverts the colors of the image, since cyan is the exact opposite of red, inverting the colors could help in terms of making more obvious the hidden letters

[fickle basalt]

Claim cyan comes from the name of the file for one of the photos on dmaorg

It said claim 00FFFF I believe

[lucid valley]

Guys, someone researched all possible sources for the collage pics used in pic 118 (the one with CUC25 on it). Can you provide a link?

Can‘t find it and I don’t remember whether it was here, on reddit or somewhere else

[sacred sigil]

#1251469273495502959 message

[lucid valley]

Tysm 😃

I‘ve bought the DR but not the journal, any chance of a link?

[sacred sigil]

I don’t know of one. Sorry.

[timber marten]

@pseudo grove scanned it https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uWEF-lJQ60HST3N3m-nKJ1kY3KjfKv8x

[lucid valley]

Yeah! Thanks 🙏

[neon pebble]

I’m going to play with this image when I get home… it’s just too… you know?? lol

[azure grove]

Right?? Thank you for validating me 😭

Also i inverted the photo to cyan and i have something to share but im not home so to be continued

[earnest grove]

Gonna post this again for visibility

[real plaza]

figma doesn't support pdf 😭 when i convert it to png or jpg i cant get all of the images imported... its so weird.

[neon pebble]

Anytime! 🫶 I was just looking at the booklet for the Clancy album, and the DEEF image is in there, along with the weird image at the end of DR, but I feel it has more detail…

[neon pebble]

The DR image is definitely cut down compared to the image in the CD booklet

[leaden temple]

Can somebody give me like a 5 minute low down of what's happened since the last time I was on?

[neon pebble]

I think this image looks similar to this from the Clancy journal

[leaden temple]

It does....

Like the close up of it

[fickle basalt]

I have always thought it looked like two people 😭

[real plaza]

Same! But every josh/tyler photo I tried to overlay didn’t work

[fickle basalt]

I've been taking a deep dive break just because this humidity is giving me nonstop migraines but I'm living for the updates people keep giving

[real plaza]

No not migraines 😭 I’m so sorry. Mine are the opposite, worse when it’s cold… hope you feel better ❤️

[tacit topaz]

COULD THESE BE THE PAINT CANS IN ROUTINES IN THE NIGHT?

[real plaza]

Don't know if we know this yet but...
The birds in the journal on the lyrics pages are magpies...
There are seven magpies in the DR (please correct me if i'm wrong)...
And there's the classic nursery rhyme...

"One for sorrow,
Two for joy,
Three for a girl,
Four for a boy,
Five for silver,
Six for gold,
Seven for a secret never to be told"

Hmm.

[edgy canopy]

Hold on you might be cooking smth here

[paper brook]

Any updates

Delulu status?

[gilded hemlock]

What is the order of appereance of the magpies in the DR? Maybe could lead us to secrets of the songs

[cinder steppe]

This is super interesting ngl

I don’t have the cd so haven’t seen this before

[cinder steppe]

But these are the same photos with the addition of at the top

[cinder steppe]

This is also super interesting especially since it’s the photo for paladin
Pretty sure it was in this chat but someone thought that image was the end of Tyler’s journal (scanned photo) as it has the 2 lines which line up with where the stitches in the page are

#1255478010342150286 message

[real plaza]

I wonder what the binding of the physical journal looks like

[neon pebble]

Were you able to manipulate the DEEF… that’s what I’m calling it lol

[real plaza]

Actually there is 8 magpies, I missed the one on drag path… 🙄

However sources say there are many versions of that nursery rhyme, some going up to like 13 or something

[timber marten]

8 magpies and 8 remaining bishops rip keons maybe that's something

[neon pebble]

I’m curious as to what Josh’s X banner image is. I think it is interesting that Tyler’s banner image is one of the duplicate images in DR

[spark lagoon]

im pretty sure his header is a zoom in pic of his profile picture. its the bottom part, his shirt.

he hasn’t updated his profile in a while

[neon pebble]

I love his intro on X

[spark lagoon]

someone wondered if he was waiting for another large announcement, like a double album or EP or take you pick on which theory lol

[neon pebble]

I’m holding on tight to the theory the double album will be about Torchbearer lol

[real plaza]

do we know where josh's shoulder came from?

[lucid valley]

Yes it’s a cutout from his profile pic, which looks like a polaroid BUT
Why choose this part? Also the solution is way bigger…
There are letters in it or am I already pattern-mad?

AND I myself used W3 a lot as abbreviation for www. Could you spot more???

I‘m not sure with the IE, could be a jpg artifact through compression (one can see the original was heavily compressed)

[neon pebble]

I thought the same thing initially as well, and some of the shapes in the background resemble birds. It’s a very interesting crop to me

I’m seeing the letters as well, especially IE

[lucid valley]

I know how quickly we are tempted to find forms in noisy images but for me the W and the 3 stand out

The first thought when I saw the picture was: the dark form on the right (pyramid/mountain) looks similar to the clouds on the Trench map (just vertically)

Oh guys, may pattern recognition center in my front lobe gets a huge boost. Or is corrupted lol

[neon pebble]

That’s what I thought as well (that it looked like a mountain) It looks like a warped Polaroid picture

[lucid valley]

Yes to Polaroid. The mention of mountain was just to describe it for you

Tbh it all could be a result of jpg compression. The forms are typical. Especially the geometrical ones, which could quickly be confused with numbers and letters

More in this corner?

[neon pebble]

Totally agree, and sorry I think my last response looked weird, I didn’t sleep last night 😵 I was just in agreement that it looked like a mountain at first 😅

[lucid valley]

All good buddy

Sometimes sleep deprivation could lead to more creativity

Or you go gaga

[neon pebble]

It’s a fine line between both right now lol

[lucid valley]

Is there a W 3 St or W 2 St in Columbus?

[neon pebble]

Yes to both

[lucid valley]

I keep asking myself how much we can "think outside the box"

• mus backwards is sum
• he shows 4 fingers in his pfp

[lucid valley]

Connecting to any of our lines?

[lucid valley]

Or rather how much are THEY make it harder to solve

In the end to lead to any hidden web content they had to give us an URL
That’s why I thought their „|-„ post in the life stream could mean they hint to the missing / in the sense of „find an URL“. Like dmaorg…../hiddencontent.html or hiddencontent.jpg etc.

[real plaza]

This has bothered me since I jumped in to this madness… they literally tweeted the url to find the ps teaser, right? I mean, that’s not just a huge hint… that was pretty much the answer. But now? Nothing. Except “no ai. anywhere.” Which is probably unrelated. 😫

[real plaza]

This is a very good point, about the /

[real plaza]

"Eight for a wish,
Nine for a kiss,
Ten a surprise you should be careful not to miss,
Eleven for health,
Twelve for wealth,
Thirteen beware it's the devil himself"

[jaunty thorn]

About this, is there any chance that some of the digital remains line up with Clancy’s stole kinda like how they used to the band logo to connect images

[azure grove]

whoops pardon my delay (lol) I’ve been doing life. so I inverted it and fucked around with some settings and didn’t see much for letters. but I do think the thing I thought was an eye is actually a face because this was easier to see after editing

[azure grove]

whoops meant to tag you in the message above

[spark lagoon]

if you mean the stole in tylers current twitter banner, i tried a lot of different combinations to get that one to line up with the digital remains. No success. Not to say its not possible, but i wasn’t able to find a connection.

[leaden temple]

Hello! I've been rather busy lately and unable to do much about DR lately. Anything really exciting get uncovered?

[verbal crag]

Does anyone know if it's actually Morse code on page 13? If so has it been solved? Ive gotten a few dif things but "taken" made the mise sense

[exotic quiver]

this what you mean by page 13?

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 5!

[gilded hemlock]

This you mean?

[verbal crag]

Yes that bc I though it might of had something to do with Tyler's tweet about lines and dashes buuuut it might of been a reach

[exotic quiver]

looks hard to comprehend as morse code, but I would not be surprised if it is! lol

[gilded hemlock]

There are a few lines and dots but idk if can be consistent

[verbal crag]

I also had another thing that lead me to most of the pages of DR from oldies station back from when he tweeted those random letters I was trying to see if it was anything bc he said he made it "for us" so I thought it may of been something in it too. I'll post what I found

And this is what I was talking about with the page numbers

[gilded hemlock]

Maybe trying to move the letters a certain amount?

I'll see what I find

[neon pebble]

👀 I really like what you did here, I am going to look at some things

[verbal crag]

Ty lol I have been trying but with 3 kids running around I can hardly think sometimes 😅

[neon pebble]

I’m in the same boat 😅😮‍💨 summer break

[verbal crag]

Been running outta food and patience 🤣

[neon pebble]

I’m glad to know there’s another mom of 3 who feels my pain 😂

[real plaza]

Mom of two here, I get it!! Stupid summer 😆

[timber marten]

lol I'm on the opposite side of this childless grad student with a lot more free time than I'd have if during the school year 😅

[verbal crag]

More time for lore digging 😁 and if you get super bored my 3yo would love someone else to play with bc "mOmMY yOu DoNt PlAy RiGhT" 🥴

[timber marten]

still have a full time job but yes tøp is the hyperfixation of the summer

[neon pebble]

My 4yo got mad that I started playing tøp while folding clothes today lol

[neon pebble]

Def my summer hyperfixation as well

[timber marten]

you've heard of hot girl summer now get ready for tøp girl summer lol

[real plaza]

I am SO lucky, my kids love them! My 5yo daughter knows all the words, the singing and dancing is so cute 😆

[neon pebble]

My 12yo loves them, the other 2 not so much lol. I’m taking my oldest to the Indy concert in Oct for her birthday

[real plaza]

I'm taking my 12 yo too, it'll be his first concert 🙂

[mossy fable]

whatt when was this

[exotic quiver]

Yes, what interview is this?

[real plaza]

Ooh I found it before! Let me see if I can do it again….

https://youtu.be/JdBs1jk0JRA?si=hFb-4Nc61K-LBpTg

I don’t know the timestamp but it’s very brief

Posted 11/7/2018

[exotic quiver]

3:40 is the timestamp

Unfortunately I think a lot of things could be missed. The real question is if they decide to bring them back. So this was something between Blurryface era and Trench era.
Guess what I'm saying is that, especially with tweets being deleted all the time, these might be things that didn't stick, no one caught one, and he left it at that.

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 6!

[real plaza]

Maybe, but as you know I think it’s something to do with the BF standard black vinyl 😉

[crystal wolf]

I posted this somewhere, but I did get confirmation from the store that the band did not write the description of that vinyl, so aren’t responsible for the missing Goner

[real plaza]

But why is it still up? And the only way BF would fit on a single disc vinyl is if goner was removed. As far as I can tell, this has never been a real item, and no one has ever been able to order it.

But it’s really interesting that it mentions specifically that the descriptions are written by a third party… who is that third party…

[crystal wolf]

Yeah they had emailed me once before with the “no additional information” and a discount code like everyone else who asked, so I specifically asked if the band or someone else writes the descriptions

Not sure who the third party is but likely someone at the merch store

[real plaza]

A discount code? Do you remember what was the code and for how much off?

[crystal wolf]

They give the same one to pretty much anyone who asks any question

[real plaza]

Interesting

[fickle basalt]

Any new discoveries fellers

[quasi vale]

US having street names like this always catches me off guard

I wouldnt even consider thinking that a letter could literally be a street name

[sacred sigil]

It’s not really a letter. It is an abbreviation for West

[leaden temple]

Hey guys. So I am trying something with DR but do any of you if there is a better app to use for lining up pictures... what I have to use right now only allows up to 10 so I'm having to the images and keep working but if I make a mistake I have to START ALL OVER and it's FRUSTRATING... if anyone has a better alternative that will allow me to line up as many pictures as I want and still be able to reposition them please let me know. Your help would be greatly appreciated 🫶

[gilded hemlock]

I tried something on lucidspark but I haven't tried with that many images, worth giving a try

https://lucidspark.com/?anonId=0.cd7eb1a8190c72b8e46&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uK0BhC0ARIsANQtgGP9POIFxyMzWXVIRiuHyGznIbCiSuOExKDAwkf_7OsSNlJQyaEN9Z0aAraCEALw_wcB&km_CPC_AdGroupID=&km_CPC_AdPosition=&km_CPC_CampaignId=20355615746&km_CPC_Country=9198254&km_CPC_Creative=&km_CPC_Device=m&km_CPC_ExtensionID=&km_CPC_Keyword=&km_CPC_MatchType=&km_CPC_Network=x&km_CPC_TargetID=&km_CPC_placement=&km_CPC_target=&sessionDate=2024-07-18T18%3A47%3A27.375Z&sessionId=0.19c8697b190c72b8e48&utm_campaign=_chart_ol_allcountries_mixed_pmax_strategic_&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&_gl=1*upgg7w*_gcl_aw*R0NMLjE3MjEzMjg0NDMuQ2owS0NRanctdUswQmhDMEFSSXNBTlF0Z0dQOVBPSUZ4eU16V1hWSVJpdUh5R3puSWJDaVN1T0V4S0RBd2tmXzdPc1NObEpReWFFTjlaMGFBcmFDRUFMd193Y0I.*_gcl_au*MTUxODg3MjQxMS4xNzIxMzI4NDM5*_ga*MTA2ODQ4ODM1OS4xNzIxMzI4NDQx*_ga_MPV5H3XMB5*MTcyMTMyODQ0MC4xLjAuMTcyMTMyODQ0Ny41My4wLjA.

@leaden temple

[leaden temple]

Thank you!

[gilded hemlock]

Let me know if it works

[leaden temple]

The way Tyler just casually says that Blurryface existed before the Nicolas Bourbaki group 😂

[timber marten]

has anyone looked into the alternate tracklist at all? i was looking back through DR and wondering if there's a reason they chose to include it

[gilded hemlock]

Emer has a theory about an inverse tracklist and how the songs played last to first as presented in that image tell a different story, fun read

https://discord.com/channels/269657133673349120/1257204123128959009

[leaden temple]

YES IVE BEEN LOOKING INTO IT A LOT

[timber marten]

I'll give it a read when I get a chance

was sort of thinking along the lines of a code using alternate track numbers but I'm not a master code breaker like some people here 🤪

[leaden temple]

So I have another theory I'm working on as well but it's taking me a while to figure all of that out

[lucid valley]

Question to all puzzlers who have been heavily involved:
did you find further pages connecting to this part?

[leaden temple]

Isn't there another page with the word Overcompensate written on it? Would it possibly overlay with 74?

So I'm starting to wonder... what if there's a way to unlock FULL versions of these images... what if these are cropped and that's why we're having such a hard time

Okay so you know how this yellow image off the Dema sight overlays with that letter to spell we are banditos?

Like this

Has anyone looked into the letters those numbers are by and if they spell anything?

I still can't help but feel like this actually might be a qr code or something and it's just really difficult to solve

@lucid valley 93 is technically the same image as 3 and could potentially overlay with it like this maybe?

Holy shit maybe other people noticed this but I just noticed the FPE violation code number is cut off on here

Also the M on Overcompensate looks kinda like Clancy's mask

[frank phoenix]

This is what I've got on that section. I don't have the page numbers written on them yet, but I believe there are twelve pages in this picture (so far)

[leaden temple]

I'm working on something similar! That image of Tyler and Josh seems to be the jumping board to work from

Also something I've notice on 93 is that this black square looks like it could fit with the cut in on the Vessel album cover

Wait does somebody have the Blurryface header that lead us to the PS teaser?

I just noticed something

[sacred sigil]

Thank you for coming through! It was a busy few days for me and then I couldn’t find it. This is another version of it without the Spanish subs. https://youtu.be/8W8zy-LA8Fk?si=-IXyZWfMnvgQOJjn

He also talks about that a little bit in the discord clique interview.

[gilded hemlock]

I've never seen this before, it does strike a nerve when he says "They missed it!" Haha, but idk if I heard wrong but it kinda ties to sahlo folina, there is a word full of meaning in the album that doesn't quite have it

[sacred sigil]

It seemed to me like sahlo folina only came up because she quickly brought it up before Tyler could say more about “They missed it.” (Dang it!)

[gilded hemlock]

[leaden temple]

Not gonna lie I'm annoyed she did that

[sacred sigil]

SAME!

[neon pebble]

Let Tyler talk!! 👀😭

[real plaza]

She was not very good at interviewing. We need follow up questions!

Speaking of interviews, have they done any for Clancy? Other than the one I think for Sirius fm… I don’t think I’ve seen any

[sacred sigil]

From previous discussions I think they said Tyler and Josh did a couple before the album release but after the album release there were just a couple with Josh only.

[timber marten]

it's giving "tylers severing ties with dema" again lol

[real plaza]

has anyone found anything in the grass of this one (93)? the coloring looks weird....

[supple sigil]

I went on a whole meaningless deep dive unfortunately I don't know if im actually insane? or if at the time these photos lined up for me

[frank phoenix]

I wish the font thickness of the violation codes matched better 😦

I hadn't thought to line up the yellow tape with the light shining on the tower. Even the red and black match up!

[leaden temple]

Okay guys so the more we look the more we find that matches up right? What if there are multiple different puzzles here. Also I've been noticing how a lot of the images can be overlayed... I'm still not giving up on the idea that this actually could be a qr code. And also you know the FPE violation code and how it's in the new dema sight url? And Tyler's been wearing the shirt? Maybe we have to find the same number of pictures as there are numbers that match up, line them up in the same order as the FPE code and put that in the url instead of the FPE code?

[jaunty thorn]

You think it’s possible that there’s more to discover?

[leaden temple]

100 percent

[jaunty thorn]

How do we know if Tyler had put even more? do you think it might be intentional?

[leaden temple]

I don't think they gave us DR for nothing. And I think it's very odd that Clancy only has 13 songs... it feels like we're missing something still

[jaunty thorn]

I guess.. I wonder how often Tyler will refer back to that. Because we did find the code when blurryface tweeted

like we did find something in the DR, do you think he’ll use them again for something different?

[leaden temple]

I'm not sure to be honest. I guess we'll just have to see 🤷‍♀️

[tacit topaz]

I agree. I think there's a LOT going on in DR for it to only be that one clue for PS. gotta be more

[leaden temple]

Hey all! Has anyone else noticed that 'ø' symbol or the 'empty set' symbol in mathematics was introduced by the Bourbaki group?

Specifically Andre (the only bishop who's name actually comes from the Bourbaki group)

[lucid valley]

Are u serious?

😂😂

[regal oxide]

LEVEL UP: You are now level 8!

[leaden temple]

What do you mean?

[lucid valley]

That’s the basis of the lore since Vessel
Ø = empty set = vessel
„Just break the cycle in half“

Nietzsche:
„Stell ab das irdene Gefäß und eile frei zum Himmel“ (Set down the earthen vessel and hasten freely to heaven)
Vialism

[real plaza]

Heck yeah Nietzsche

[frank phoenix]

But \emptyset doesn't denote every set - just the sets containing no elements. So then, would \emptyset only denote available vessels?

[leaden temple]

That's a good point

[lucid valley]

I don’t get your thought here. A set of available vessels wouldn’t be empty. What is meant is that each available vessel is like an empty set. Is that clearer? Or see it like so:
1 available vessel = 1 empty set
The set which can be build by containing all empty sets is not an empty set bc it contains „something“. Set theory is different from normal math. „Empty“ doesn’t mean 0.

[frank phoenix]

True; that is what I was saying. The set containing the empty set is not itself empty. lol maybe I worded it badly. I didn't mean \emptyset denotes the set containing all sets containing no elements. I meant that each set that contains no elements is the empty set, but there exist sets that are nonempty. Hence, if our hypothesis is correct, \emptyset denotes a given vessel if and only if that vessel is available

[frank phoenix]

Thanks for clarifying my imprecise wording

[real plaza]

Does anyone know if the original Figma Jam still exists? I would really like to see all the different ways people were going at this puzzle from the beginning.

@sacred sigil I just found your google doc of the images, this is so cool thank you for compiling all of that!

The inverted SnapBack photo is beautiful I think I want a print of that version

[lucid valley]

Guys, I made an interesting find, which could hint to more… maybe the key to a full ARG we missed in the DR.
I need your opinion whether it is a stretch or the beginning of a new ARG

Page 29 always made me curious. These eyes, all these eyes also on other pages. Then the sentence „right in front of your eyes“

I think I decoded the eyes on page 29… it’s morse code

To explain my discovery:
there is tape connecting SINGLE photos (connecting to one letter) and there is also tape on top of some. I set a single photo as dot and a double photo as dash. The tape on top marks the beginning of a letter

Then there is page 23, where we see two times
2 eyes and 3 eyes,
which could translate to
IS or MO (../… or —/—-)

I then had the idea that MAYBE we should find A WHOLE SENTENCE.

First I wanted to try it myself but I believe it’s more fun to do it with you!

Then there is page 62 also with overlapping eyes:

What do you think?

Annotation: I‘m aware that in p29 I counted a photo as . or - and on p23 I counted the eyes

[lucid valley]

FCA (Failed Cooking Attempt)?
Maybe my pan was too hot?

[neon pebble]

I like what you’re cooking up 🔥 I’m going to attempt to help tonight once my wild 4yo runs out of energy 😮‍💨

I was lingering in DR yesterday, looking at those pictures, specifically the one with the tape. I was thinking as well the tape layout is interesting

[lucid valley]

Mine is 23yo and it seems that our relation is slowly relaxing, lol

[leaden temple]

I don't have kids and I don't know if I ever will. I like traveling and going to concerts all the time 😂

[leaden temple]

So I have to ask, I notice that you're not counting the cover even though it states in DR that it's the first page. Is there a reason why? Because this page 24 for me if you count the cover

[lucid valley]

I‘m counting the cover and that’s 23.

[real plaza]

Are you a genius

[exotic quiver]

Interesting find I had about a few pages and 11, 14, 25 #1256724195375845488 message

The original start of this find #1256724195375845488 message

[leaden temple]

You were right, I had it wrong my bad lol

[lucid valley]

I haven't given up yet.
But when the eyes are so important, the code becomes more difficult.

It is difficult to count the eyes in Tyler's photos. I have now decided to consider them for now if an iris is recognisable.
Any ideas? Or do you think it's a waste of effort?
I marked the rows and columns to make it easier to discuss it.

[gilded hemlock]

Could the pairs be related? Like the pair of eyes?

This is pretty interesting honestly

[timber marten]

idk morse code but i like the way you think

[sacred sigil]

The eyes are very difficult to count. I want to look more at the tape…like maybe the eyes are just drawing us to notice that page and not necessarily the eyes themselves.

I feel like it’s…”right in front of our eyes” sigh

[timber marten]

i keep thinking we're overcomplicating this bc of the "right in front of your eyes" thing but the more we dig the more potential connections keep turning up

[exotic quiver]

Anything with the single Josh ?

[coral nebula]

Maybe the direction of their gazes has something to do with it? It may also be worth noting that in 2, 3, and maybe 5 Tyler is pulling down his lower left eyelid

[magic osprey]

single and ready to mingle?

[exotic quiver]

Tinder profile pic confirmed!

[real plaza]

The tape would be covering single josh’s eyes if it weren’t clear

[leaden temple]

ME TOO

Okay so back to messing with the picture of the vultures in DR I flipped it. And not only am I still pretty sure there's something written there, but the more I play with it the more it looks like there is a person in this image

I know everyone said it's from Trench era but they wouldn't have included it in DR if it wasn't important. Almost everything else in DR is images and lyrics we've never seen before

[leaden temple]

This could have been one of the things we missed

[quasi vale]

mom im scared

but the small figure is definitely torchie

[gilded hemlock]

The trial maybe? Bishops watching through vultures. Josh being the judge, we know how many forms Josh has and one could be The Judge so he can finally set clancy free (only problem with this is that clancy is the only one able to see torchbearer guidance, interesting stretch nonetheless hehe)

[lucid valley]

It’s a haltone version of the original image and as far as I can see, there is no additional content.

[leaden temple]

They could have imposed another image over the original though

[lucid valley]

Try it and you’ll see

[leaden temple]

I'm just throwing out what I'm seeing in some of this stuff. And just because the original doesn't have anything doesn't mean Tyler and Josh have not added to the original image. Most of DR has been tampered with

[lucid valley]

I give up 😉

[real plaza]

I think it’s worth noting how much bird poo is in this photo.

[hot crypt]

there's nothing new, the shadows etc. can be seen in the original photo too

[lucid valley]

A hint, a hint!!
You just have to squint
on that vulture poo,
as if it is new!

[candid night]

So been squinting ......a lot....can't make anything out - but def looks like writing in all that pooooo

[leaden temple]

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees writing there

[neon pebble]

I’m seeing letters in the bricks… also the streak across his chest looks like antlers when zoomed in 🫠

[leaden temple]

Also the one across his eyes and the one across his chest look like the arrows from the Blurryface header that lead us to the Paladin Strait teaser

[exotic quiver]

I was actually looking at that image the other day. It almost looks like an arm here...

you have to mess with the colors for it to show up more

I just happen to have it right here!

there is definently an arm in the image on the right

I wasn't able to find what image that lines up with though

[real plaza]

there is an arm there too does it match

doesn't look like it

[leaden temple]

That's Jishua! Those are his tattoos

Wait yes I think both might be Josh

[leaden temple]

WAIT DOES 110 MATCH?

[real plaza]

Yeah! I’ve been looking everywhere for a match but haven’t found anything in DR 😫

[exotic quiver]

Yes it could be that one!

[real plaza]

The one on the left looks like a mid-drumming arm

[sacred sigil]

Pretty sure that’s his hand up around his face. It’s the other line that doesn’t seem to belong in my opinion.

[sacred sigil]

I think he’s just at the edge of the frame. I was thinking that’s his right arm.

[exotic quiver]

Your right!!! 🤣

[neon pebble]

I see NIC on top and AY

😵‍💫

[real plaza]

Yeah do you know if anyone has found its match? I don’t think it’s in the Dr but I guess it could be black and white, then I wouldn’t recognize it…

I see parentheses

[sacred sigil]

In my opinion I don’t think it has a match. I don’t think all the pages fit together even though some do.

[real plaza]

What if it’s match is somewhere outside the digital remains… doesn’t it seem weird to have a sliver of his arm showing, when they could have easily cropped it out?

[daring robin]

Thank you for the effort. As is saw that I had to think of braille which is kinda ironic that we are counting eyes. It would be g f f g f f
Blank g g c f g

So nothing I think.
Or is there a chord Progression in any of the Songs like that? 😅

[lucid valley]

Thank YOU for your effort! I had actually already given up on this branch, despite my initial enthusiasm. The depiction in my graphic looks like Braille but if you arrange the dots differently it immediately loses this connection.

Fun fact regarding the chord progression:
assuming the placement of the eye image in DR follows along the songs it is connected to Next Semester which could be played G F in the verse

[sacred sigil]

Yes it does seem weird. But maybe it’s just an Easter egg.

[leaden temple]

Well Tyler did go out of his way to talk about Next Sememster a lot in the livestream so maybe you're onto something?

Like he specifically mentioned that the Ukulele part in Next Semester basically loops back into itself

Has anyone else noticed that there are dots and dashes up here on page 13 of DR? At first I thought the dots were Bishop's eyes but then I noticed the lines... I would have no way of decoding if it is, but could it be possible this could be morse code?

@lucid valley @real plaza

Does this make any sense to you guys?

[lucid valley]

There was someone mentioning it (didn’t remember who) and I checked it but it’s not morse.

——
Has anybody already organized/sorted all DR images regarding their connections to songs?

Yesterday I had made other grids (12x10 and 15x8, leaving out the title) to see whether this way I could discover any patterns but I couldn’t find anything new

——
jm2c to page 116

The left light ray could be a headlight (with a distorted beam) and also looks a bit like an eye. But the right ray looks more like sparks (NS mv?)
Dunno what to do with it.

The VI at the top could be a part of lyrics because Ty uses it to say Verse 1

Apropos TY is 2025, 🤣

[exotic quiver]

I feel like i've seen that 'light' somewhere.. probably in DR

I don't like this verticle line on the bottom right. Another thing I haven't linked to anything yet.

[exotic quiver]

I need to stop looking at DR again. Another one that I can't find the matches.
Think we've got Clancy Text on the left.
Tape or some rectangle at the bottom.

[real plaza]

Yes that totally looks like Morse code to me, I thought it was eyes too…

Oh I guess not, bummer

[real plaza]

Put the SAI symbol on the page with the lyrics

[leaden temple]

Also might be really late to the party but I just realized the opening of Saturday and the opening of Heathens start the same and both tell you to slow down

[steel berry]

Wondering what would happen if you cut those bits of tape out of the image so there were transparent gaps, and placed the whole thing over some of the lyrics pages.

Probably nothing, but it's something to do.

[slender dragon]

deef

[real plaza]

This is a good idea

[lucid valley]

I am deefinetely stuck

[leaden temple]

WAIT! MAYBE NOT THE SAI SYMBOL BUT TRY THE FULL PAGE ON SEIZING FROM THE DEMA SIGHT... THERES AN OVAL ON THAT TOO

And they included a snippet of the seizing schematics in DR

[exotic quiver]

one way

the other way

is this a 4 in the middle of the head?

[candid night]

looks like a 4 to me - well spotted

[real plaza]

Ok NOW go to the other one with Clancy on the ground and line it up the same way!

I don’t know the number dang it

[exotic quiver]

there is another one? is he laying in the same position?

[real plaza]

Yes there is the same one but clearer

[exotic quiver]

okay so not this one

[real plaza]

I’ll find it

24

[exotic quiver]

oh this one?

[real plaza]

yeah

wasn't that one where you could separate the pictures?

[exotic quiver]

you know what Clancy, I can't see so stop mocking me!!

[real plaza]

try taking out the other one

omg i need the numbers lol

112 - try it taking out 112